New Vegas wasn't made by a Bethesda B-team, but rather Obsidian Entertainment: a game dev studio with experience in making CRPGs like Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny (after making New Vegas)
And also many devs in Obsidian were part of Black Isle, which was the original developer of Fallout. Notably Chris Avellone, main writer of Fallout 2, and the father of Fallout, Tim Cain, are or were at the time in Obsidian.
no that one didnt have any mold issues, youre thinking of the Nuka Cola T-51 power armor helmet that did have mold issues, unless apparently both had issues with mold
@@nildzrecastellanosIndeed, it was only the Gamestop Nuka Cola T-51 Helmets. They stored them in a warehouse that had ventilation issues and mold formed in the filter tubes on the helmet.
20:50 and you have to consider as time moves on newer games have an advantage because the games industry keepa growing and growing so it makes sense that 3 sold more than new vegas and that 4 sold more then 3, so for 76 to go that bad you know something's utterly wrong there As a side note i had a bunch of friends that we were all super in when all we knew was that there was a new game on the works, then E3 happened and they revealed it would be an always online, "the player base will make their own stories" (aka... we don't feel like writing anything, we gotta get this new game out stat) and all the hype was gone from all of us And we were left wondering "who is this game for, certainly not your player base of single player gamers" 24:05 and this is everyone because if you bought the cardboard disc you also just downloaded the game
Fallout New Vegas came out after Fallout 3. Fallout New Vegas: October 19, 2010 Fallout 3: October 28, 2008 No clue why it had less sales, though I suspect that Bethesda didn't do nearly as much advertising for it, so it was relatively unknown.
I think the wording is important: it cost us more to make the MOULD. The plastic is probably cheaper to mass produce due to material costs. So they're trying to convince us they paid for quality, when they cheaped out on materials.
Also he got it wrong when he said the made the bottle right when he showed the nuka cola quantum bottle. That bottle is a simple lamp ant too is made of plastic. It’s not even a good lamp because it primarily runs on batteries and as such it has an automatic 15min shut off that still triggers even when you are powering it through it’s built in USB port. Bethesda is such a dumpster fire.
If you're selling a deluxe edition, you have to remember, it doesn't cost the studio anything to sell the game. It doesn't cost Bethesda 60 dollars to put the game into the box, cause the game is already made.
The bag is so much worse than you guys are aware. It's a general fact that pre-order merch is all crap, most people know that. You were trying to figure out how much the bag was worth of the $200 price tag? In all honestly, probably about $5. The game was worth less than $20, same with the helmet, the toys and map could have been made for literal pennies, and the steel case was probably a few bucks. The rest of the price? Massive mark-up, all manufacturers do this. The fact that they thought the bag was only worth $5 shows how little they had to pay to make it. The reason the fanbase exploded about the bag was entirely due to the marketing. All of the marketing that mentioned the bag said CANVAS bag. If they just said bag, even if it looked canvas, no one would have cared. But when you go out of your way to specify, you have to be precise. Funnily enough, they never changed the advertising. Even today, the advertising still says canvas. Oh, and when fans finally got the new bags? For one, that 4-6 months thing was a total lie, it was actually more like a year. For another, IT WAS WORSE QUALITY THAN THE NYLON. The canvas had the consistency of wet paper. The level of corner-cutting for this is insane, and it's why almost everyone I know has zero interest in any other products Bethesda makes from here on out. Plus Starfield has all of these same issues and more, showing they're utterly incapable of learning. Also, he only lightly touches on it, but there's a pay-to-win mechanic, a camera that makes you teleport, a SUBSCRIPTION service (expensive as well) that locked basic game functions like private servers behind a paywall, an NPC update that destroyed the campaign for new players, and the few game modes that got praised were quickly removed and deleted because of course they would be.
Clarification on the physical copies: the disc were not cardboard everywhere. Here in the midwest (and I suspect the United States at large) were real CD copies. I haven’t done any real external research but I believe cardboard code discs were probably just used for foreign markets.
The canvas-bag debacle reminds me of the Nintendo 3DS Ambassador thing. The 3DS at launch was priced at $250. It wasn't really selling, so Nintendo lowered the price to $170. Everyone who bought the 3DS at launch was compensated with 20 free-games. 10 NES games and 10 GBA games that were never released on the eShop. Never pre-order anything, especially not special-edition bundles.
Tardy to Retardy might be the funniest fucking thing in any of his videos. I know he had to clean up his jokes as he got bigger but part of me misses his slight edgyness
I am truly disgusted at how all of this failure, greed, and incompetence has effectively been swept under the rug since the show released. People like myself who just want a good fallout game that at the very least is on par with New Vegas are widely looked upon as pointless haters who can’t be satisfied despite the glaring short sided mediocrity of Fallout 4, the un-ignorable train wreck of fallout 76, and the absolute character assassination of the franchise that is the TV show. Every time I remember what is going on with fallout (my absolute favorite franchise) I get depressed and am genuinely gobsmacked by how so many people can be so blind…or maybe just satisfied with the absolute bottom of the barrel cesspool slime. I witnessed the death of my favorite franchise with fallout 76, and then further witnessed the desecration of its corpse with that Amazon show. I mourn for fallout. Bethesda has scooped out its guts and filled its husk with cheap animatronics and now uses it to crudely entertain simple children.
They've been using the same game engine since the 90's and they have also driven out almost everyone who knew the engine's code during the last 5 to 10 years, they can't create a decent game with their current abilities using their own creation engine anymore because they can't understand it, also the engine was originally built for an mmo style game like runescape before being bought by bethesda who jury-rigged it into a single player game
Hmm I actually got myself a hard copy after being a beta tester it runs just a little bit smoother with the hard copy but I got the game system not a computer
I played 76 at release and it was a broken mess, went back after the wastelander update and it was still broken but playable, I retried it two months ago with a fresh character and the game froze every time I ever so much as tapped the VATS button... its been uninstalled ever since 😂all this is made worse by the fact there is a optional monthly subscription system that you need to use if you want to host private servers - main reason for doing so is that fact you can use mods on them to help fix some of the issues but your paying them to NOT play their version of the game!
I'd forgive this if it wasn't a game company as big as Bethesda, or if the problems only ended at the game. But that's not the case. I don't care if the game is good now.
It's not good now. It's about on-par with the other Bethesda games. But Bethesda games are all really bad. What made up for the poor quality in the past was the writing, but 76 was literally billed as not having writing. It's like going from a friend who kicks you in the nuts to a friend who slaps you in the face. It's an improvement, but they're still shitty friends. 76 cannot be saved because they'd have to finally get off their lazy butts and do what every other gaming company does every few years: clean up the code. Wanna know why 76 had bugs imported from Fallout 4? Because they use the same code, and the Creation Engine is built for having tons of physics objects in a small area. It's not meant for multiplayer, it's not meant for open-world, it's not meant for large areas. In order to make it fit those, they patched it with duct tape and prayers. Other companies, after a few years, go through and clean up the code to prevent it from becoming unstable. Bethesda refuses to do this, so you're looking at a line of code that was first written for Morrowind, and then patched into Oblivion, into Fallout 3, into Fallout 4, and now into Fallout 76 (and then into Starfield later). It's ALL duct tape and prayers at this point, which is why it doesn't work at all. That, and the writing is abysmal, so there's really no reason to buy or play these games outside of the modding aspect, and those modders keep getting attacked by Creation Club and Fallout 1st paid modding subscriptions. Edited for spelling.
New Vegas wasn't made by a Bethesda B-team, but rather Obsidian Entertainment: a game dev studio with experience in making CRPGs like Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny (after making New Vegas)
And also many devs in Obsidian were part of Black Isle, which was the original developer of Fallout. Notably Chris Avellone, main writer of Fallout 2, and the father of Fallout, Tim Cain, are or were at the time in Obsidian.
And bethesda has never forgiven them for making a better game... shame what's happening with obsidian tho
IH didn't mention it, but the power armor helmet that also came with the power armor edition had a molding issue
Thats really the only major issue that did not come up absolutely.
no that one didnt have any mold issues, youre thinking of the Nuka Cola T-51 power armor helmet that did have mold issues, unless apparently both had issues with mold
Not all of them, only the unique ones from gamestop, bethesda has nothing to do with those. It was not the power armor edition helmet.
@@nildzrecastellanosIndeed, it was only the Gamestop Nuka Cola T-51 Helmets. They stored them in a warehouse that had ventilation issues and mold formed in the filter tubes on the helmet.
Bethesda: Stupidity, incompetence and greed in one package. What a deal!
20:50 and you have to consider as time moves on newer games have an advantage because the games industry keepa growing and growing so it makes sense that 3 sold more than new vegas and that 4 sold more then 3, so for 76 to go that bad you know something's utterly wrong there
As a side note i had a bunch of friends that we were all super in when all we knew was that there was a new game on the works, then E3 happened and they revealed it would be an always online, "the player base will make their own stories" (aka... we don't feel like writing anything, we gotta get this new game out stat) and all the hype was gone from all of us And we were left wondering "who is this game for, certainly not your player base of single player gamers"
24:05 and this is everyone because if you bought the cardboard disc you also just downloaded the game
Fallout New Vegas came out after Fallout 3.
Fallout New Vegas: October 19, 2010
Fallout 3: October 28, 2008
No clue why it had less sales, though I suspect that Bethesda didn't do nearly as much advertising for it, so it was relatively unknown.
From what I could gather(surface level), Canvas is the easiest and cheapest fabric to make.
48:23 Then just make the fuckin' glass bottle!
I think the wording is important: it cost us more to make the MOULD. The plastic is probably cheaper to mass produce due to material costs. So they're trying to convince us they paid for quality, when they cheaped out on materials.
Also he got it wrong when he said the made the bottle right when he showed the nuka cola quantum bottle. That bottle is a simple lamp ant too is made of plastic. It’s not even a good lamp because it primarily runs on batteries and as such it has an automatic 15min shut off that still triggers even when you are powering it through it’s built in USB port. Bethesda is such a dumpster fire.
This is one reaction I have very much been looking forward to :-D
If you're selling a deluxe edition, you have to remember, it doesn't cost the studio anything to sell the game. It doesn't cost Bethesda 60 dollars to put the game into the box, cause the game is already made.
The bag is so much worse than you guys are aware. It's a general fact that pre-order merch is all crap, most people know that. You were trying to figure out how much the bag was worth of the $200 price tag? In all honestly, probably about $5. The game was worth less than $20, same with the helmet, the toys and map could have been made for literal pennies, and the steel case was probably a few bucks. The rest of the price? Massive mark-up, all manufacturers do this. The fact that they thought the bag was only worth $5 shows how little they had to pay to make it.
The reason the fanbase exploded about the bag was entirely due to the marketing. All of the marketing that mentioned the bag said CANVAS bag. If they just said bag, even if it looked canvas, no one would have cared. But when you go out of your way to specify, you have to be precise. Funnily enough, they never changed the advertising. Even today, the advertising still says canvas.
Oh, and when fans finally got the new bags? For one, that 4-6 months thing was a total lie, it was actually more like a year. For another, IT WAS WORSE QUALITY THAN THE NYLON. The canvas had the consistency of wet paper. The level of corner-cutting for this is insane, and it's why almost everyone I know has zero interest in any other products Bethesda makes from here on out. Plus Starfield has all of these same issues and more, showing they're utterly incapable of learning.
Also, he only lightly touches on it, but there's a pay-to-win mechanic, a camera that makes you teleport, a SUBSCRIPTION service (expensive as well) that locked basic game functions like private servers behind a paywall, an NPC update that destroyed the campaign for new players, and the few game modes that got praised were quickly removed and deleted because of course they would be.
"It's time to make history~"
Yes! Love this video and reaction!
Clarification on the physical copies: the disc were not cardboard everywhere. Here in the midwest (and I suspect the United States at large) were real CD copies. I haven’t done any real external research but I believe cardboard code discs were probably just used for foreign markets.
Fun fact: Several characters from the ad are from the From Dusk Till Dawn video game
Fun fact: There was a From Dusk Till Dawn video game
Seeing my birthtown in a video game was neat. That was one of the few good things about Fallout 76 for me lol
The canvas-bag debacle reminds me of the Nintendo 3DS Ambassador thing.
The 3DS at launch was priced at $250. It wasn't really selling, so Nintendo lowered the price to $170. Everyone who bought the 3DS at launch was compensated with 20 free-games. 10 NES games and 10 GBA games that were never released on the eShop.
Never pre-order anything, especially not special-edition bundles.
Recently bought 76 on a sale, it's up to the "usual Fallout standard" but surprisingly fun. I'd recommend it IF you get it on sale
3:52 to skip the yap and get straight into the reaction
Have you seen the My Inmortal IH video I really like that one ❤
New Vegas wasnt made bt Bethesda. It was made by Obsidian Entertainment.
Tardy to Retardy might be the funniest fucking thing in any of his videos. I know he had to clean up his jokes as he got bigger but part of me misses his slight edgyness
Chef's Kiss on this reaction video Othaia and Oona.
I am truly disgusted at how all of this failure, greed, and incompetence has effectively been swept under the rug since the show released. People like myself who just want a good fallout game that at the very least is on par with New Vegas are widely looked upon as pointless haters who can’t be satisfied despite the glaring short sided mediocrity of Fallout 4, the un-ignorable train wreck of fallout 76, and the absolute character assassination of the franchise that is the TV show. Every time I remember what is going on with fallout (my absolute favorite franchise) I get depressed and am genuinely gobsmacked by how so many people can be so blind…or maybe just satisfied with the absolute bottom of the barrel cesspool slime. I witnessed the death of my favorite franchise with fallout 76, and then further witnessed the desecration of its corpse with that Amazon show.
I mourn for fallout. Bethesda has scooped out its guts and filled its husk with cheap animatronics and now uses it to crudely entertain simple children.
Yo bones react to Russianbadgers video about fallout new Vegas and you'll see your not miss remembering you good time with the game
They've been using the same game engine since the 90's and they have also driven out almost everyone who knew the engine's code during the last 5 to 10 years, they can't create a decent game with their current abilities using their own creation engine anymore because they can't understand it, also the engine was originally built for an mmo style game like runescape before being bought by bethesda who jury-rigged it into a single player game
Hmm I actually got myself a hard copy after being a beta tester it runs just a little bit smoother with the hard copy but I got the game system not a computer
game is on steam and its not free its like 30 dollers us.
Can you guys please watch internet historian My Immortal please and thank you
I played 76 at release and it was a broken mess, went back after the wastelander update and it was still broken but playable, I retried it two months ago with a fresh character and the game froze every time I ever so much as tapped the VATS button... its been uninstalled ever since 😂all this is made worse by the fact there is a optional monthly subscription system that you need to use if you want to host private servers - main reason for doing so is that fact you can use mods on them to help fix some of the issues but your paying them to NOT play their version of the game!
Those 500 atoms were supposed to be some foot in the door discount meant to get you to make up the difference on something else
I'd forgive this if it wasn't a game company as big as Bethesda, or if the problems only ended at the game. But that's not the case. I don't care if the game is good now.
It's not good now. It's about on-par with the other Bethesda games. But Bethesda games are all really bad. What made up for the poor quality in the past was the writing, but 76 was literally billed as not having writing. It's like going from a friend who kicks you in the nuts to a friend who slaps you in the face. It's an improvement, but they're still shitty friends. 76 cannot be saved because they'd have to finally get off their lazy butts and do what every other gaming company does every few years: clean up the code. Wanna know why 76 had bugs imported from Fallout 4? Because they use the same code, and the Creation Engine is built for having tons of physics objects in a small area. It's not meant for multiplayer, it's not meant for open-world, it's not meant for large areas. In order to make it fit those, they patched it with duct tape and prayers.
Other companies, after a few years, go through and clean up the code to prevent it from becoming unstable. Bethesda refuses to do this, so you're looking at a line of code that was first written for Morrowind, and then patched into Oblivion, into Fallout 3, into Fallout 4, and now into Fallout 76 (and then into Starfield later). It's ALL duct tape and prayers at this point, which is why it doesn't work at all. That, and the writing is abysmal, so there's really no reason to buy or play these games outside of the modding aspect, and those modders keep getting attacked by Creation Club and Fallout 1st paid modding subscriptions.
Edited for spelling.