The NFL's BIGGEST FINANCIAL FAILURE EVER... (The Fall of NFL Europe)

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  • With Spring League football back and up and running relatively successfully with the UFL, I have had fun looking back at old spring leagues or start-up leagues that tried to compete with the NFL. NFL Europe was such an interesting experiment that I feel had it been done right or done today with streaming, it could have been way more successful than it really was back in the 90s and 2000s. A once-promising league in Europe that looked like it could turn into world domination by the NFL instead turned into a money pit. This is the story of NFL Europe. This is the Story of the NFL’s biggest financial misstep of all time.
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  • @EmbracetheGrind
    @EmbracetheGrind  หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Could NFL Europe surive today with streaming? Why or why not?

    • @DioChicken
      @DioChicken หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It probably could but with the ELF in place there’s absolutely no way it comes back. The hope is the ELF gets a strong partnership with the NFL to help with the growing pains

    • @XDrang93
      @XDrang93 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rhein is pronounced "Rhine", not "Rain".

    • @bugleboy624
      @bugleboy624 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@DioChicken I'm actually kinda hoping the ELF does well enough to be able to tell the NFL to fuck off. Tall order, I know. Still...

    • @gs4395
      @gs4395 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The old league would never survive. I mean, the realistic possibility of the ELF is to expand across Europe, into cities like Dublin, Stockholm, or cities in the SE of Europe itself.

    • @user-ef8ed8ez4o
      @user-ef8ed8ez4o หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think time constraints would be tough... Games wouldn't be at the times that are reasonable for us to watch...

  • @atw-me1xy
    @atw-me1xy หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I used to love watching NFLE when I was an insatiably football hungry middle schooler, especially the Galaxy. Was so sad when it shut down.

    • @Blackhawk5656
      @Blackhawk5656 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to pull for all the teams that had packers players, I remember there was a wide out who played for Amsterdam, Chad Lucas. That dude probably should've made a roster in the NFL. And also, Atari Bigby ended up becoming a starting safety for Green Bay

  • @XDrang93
    @XDrang93 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The closest we have to NFL Europe nowadays is the European League of Football. Some of the ELF teams use the same names and colors as their NFL Europe counterparts.

  • @nickmeara5323
    @nickmeara5323 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    1998 Kurt Warner played for the Amsterdam Admirals. The St. Louis Rams were big on sending QB to NFL-Europe. Jamie Martin also would play there. I remember watching the last regular season game, The Rhein Fire loose to Frankfurt in order for the three teams to end with a 7-3 tie. With that win Frankfurt had the tie breakers over Amsterdam and the Fire won the World Bowl '98 34-10. The 1998 NFL season Warner was behind Tony Banks & Steve Bono. Warner was an exposed Ram for the Browns expansion Draft in '99.

  • @DioChicken
    @DioChicken หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    NFL Europe helped plant the seeds for the ELF but the NFL will probably need to be active in Europe again to help grow the game even more

    • @jayssonjefferson4389
      @jayssonjefferson4389 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And was good for played development

    • @42calking53
      @42calking53 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I really wish we could get this to come back and be a part of NFL

  • @rngfootball759
    @rngfootball759 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The great Adam Vinatieri played in what was then the World League of American Football. Scottish Claymores, Amsterdam Admirals, London Monarchs for example. Eventually that became mostly German cities during the final days.

  • @RedneckOgre9000
    @RedneckOgre9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Here in Alabama I was a fan of the Birmingham Fire. Birmingham has been a part of so many of these secondary football leagues.

  • @benellison6232
    @benellison6232 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There is a European football league. Some of the teams fron NFL Europe are in it! They are the European League of Football (ELF)

  • @228allday
    @228allday หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember i meet an offensive lineman that played in Germay in the Europe league. This had to be 2006 or 2007 right whenever it was coming to an end he told me that he was working out and trying to make an NFL roster he got married to a captain in the Air Force while he was overseas That's how he was able to get on base and work out

  • @Blizzysnaps
    @Blizzysnaps หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    They should bring it back. Creates more opportunities, and make American football globally popular

    • @officialfumofeltingchannel1490
      @officialfumofeltingchannel1490 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ehhh idk I kind of like this being our own American thing, I don’t mind gatekeeping 😂

    • @ease-l5330
      @ease-l5330 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The ELF is active and has most teams from NFL Europe! And it’s hype!

    • @LarsLoveToMosh
      @LarsLoveToMosh หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have the EFL since 3 Years that try to fill this Gap

    • @duewhit310
      @duewhit310 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People come from all over the world to play USA sports for USA MONEY........... But they dont come here to play football. Let that sink in..........
      No 6'5 300+ guys coming here to be linemen
      No rugby players coming over to be RB, FB, LB, WR, SS, ST.
      No track stars coming here to return kickoffs or catch passes or be a DB.
      No world class throwing arms coming here to be QBs.
      The whole rest of the world cringes at our american football. They knew at some point some damning medical research would state the obvious......... that the human brain cannot withstand these repeated violent collisions. Its too much.
      Theyre comin here to play baseball, basketball, hockey, YOU NAME IT, but nobody wants the American football LIFE.
      PERIODPOINTBLANK

    • @ease-l5330
      @ease-l5330 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@duewhit310 One, that’s blatantly not true, and two, what’s your beef 🤣

  • @grahamgunn1309
    @grahamgunn1309 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My uncle played for the Barcelona Dragons just before he signed with the patriots in 2000. He said he loved playing in Europe but he also said the league collapsing wasn’t much of a surprise.

    • @cherrycolareal
      @cherrycolareal 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who was he?

    • @grahamgunn1309
      @grahamgunn1309 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cherrycolareal his name is Garrett Johnson, he played a decent amount in 2000/2001 but was mainly a practice squad guy after about week 8 in 2001

  • @lxfenix
    @lxfenix หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The mid-2000's era Arena Football League was awesome. They had a good tv deal, lots of teams and tons of talent. It's a shame how quickly it fell apart.

  • @nickmeara5323
    @nickmeara5323 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stan Gelbaugh (Maryland) was the MVP of the first Season. A 6th round draft pick in 1986 that was on the Buffalo Bills taxi squad for years. Was selling copiers by 1990, and after the WLAF season was able to make some starts for the Phoenix Cardinals due to injuries.

  • @justinress2782
    @justinress2782 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think it’s time for the NFL to invest in the ELF.
    The league has shown that it has potential, but without massive external funding it will go the same way as the NFL Europe.
    This would be a win win situation.

  • @Taj-ex2oo
    @Taj-ex2oo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I only remember these teams from “madden 2003” 😂😂😂

  • @MikeJr9284
    @MikeJr9284 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Growing up, I used to play as the NFL Europe teams in Madden.

  • @StevenWatters
    @StevenWatters หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NFL Europe (IFL) kinda all of a sudden reminds me of EuroNASCAR except EuroNASCAR didn't go out of business cause, of how big NASCAR is getting each day.

  • @OhJustImmo
    @OhJustImmo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    take a look at the ELF (European League of Football)

  • @hutchphilpot6870
    @hutchphilpot6870 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “HE HATE ME” IYKYK

    • @chasekozak7206
      @chasekozak7206 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s the original XFL, nothing to do with Europe

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris6655 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First you had the Sacramento Surge, winner of the 2nd and last World Bowl, that included David Archer as it's quarterback. Then that folded so Owner Fred Anderson move the franchise into the CFL when it expanded into the US briefly to become the Sacramento Gold Miners. Then they moved to San Antonio as the Riders but had to change their name to the Texans because the CFL had 2 teams named the Rough Riders. And it all fell apart after 3 years.

    • @michaeljohnson7493
      @michaeljohnson7493 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We definitely need a video about the CFL’s American expansion. Knowing the good quality videos ETG puts out, I’m sure we’ll be seeing it soon.

  • @Donathon-qx8kq
    @Donathon-qx8kq หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember a WR who played for the Claymores named Cooper....guy could play....if I'm not wrong he was also a professor.... pretty cool

  • @doccholo905
    @doccholo905 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoyed watching NFL Europe as a kid. I liked the Berlin Thunder

    • @XDrang93
      @XDrang93 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least the ELF has their own Berlin Thunder.

  • @tanhelmet
    @tanhelmet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was a solid league. Great players and performance. I enjoyed it when it was on TV.

  • @MrBlondespikes
    @MrBlondespikes 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This endedup becoming the ELF in a round about way . There are 17 teams now there expanding to 24 eventually

  • @Mars-hv3tz
    @Mars-hv3tz หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d love a video on the PSFL

  • @doingnthn
    @doingnthn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The NFL should embrace the ELF

  • @edwardkelly3280
    @edwardkelly3280 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I missed NFL Europe

  • @SonCarlosH
    @SonCarlosH หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a Berlin Thunder fan, those uni's went hard!

  • @Loyard777
    @Loyard777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember nfl Europe being in one of the old maddens it was cool

  • @PTrep2727
    @PTrep2727 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to the first game in Montréal in front of 55 000, we were clobbered and never got close to that. I also went to the final in Montréal again. I got free tickets, thats how bad it got. Sad because i loved it. 🤷🏈🏈🤷

  • @Bsnsobscuregames
    @Bsnsobscuregames หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    NFL Europe’s biggest problem was that it was obviously a “developmental” league. The games didn’t often feel competitive or close.

  • @ZVWrestling445
    @ZVWrestling445 หลายเดือนก่อน

    European League of Football is around and has taken the spot for the top league of American football in Europe. Some NFLE teams are in the ELF

  • @LaikynS-qo9im
    @LaikynS-qo9im หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favorite team is the San Antionio Brahmas

  • @MasterOfViewership
    @MasterOfViewership 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The NFL is doing games in London and rumors are they've been trying to set up a franchise from London. Hmm . . .🤔

  • @pattonmaynard7214
    @pattonmaynard7214 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Babe wake up, new embrace the grind video dropped

  • @Jasontyo
    @Jasontyo หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Battlehawks to the NFL. Relegate the bears.

  • @gs4395
    @gs4395 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Time to expand to Europe, NFL. Add those London teams.

  • @jamesbashaw5831
    @jamesbashaw5831 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I miss NFL Europe. Go Hamburg Sea Devils!

  • @jeffpearljam1976
    @jeffpearljam1976 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barth-a-lona?

  • @javi__...
    @javi__... หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read that the nfl still loses money playing in europe but im guessing its nowhere near as much as nfl europe

  • @darknite9374
    @darknite9374 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I only remember these teams cause I used to beat up on them in the golden days of Madden 😂

  • @chez0788
    @chez0788 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Barthelona

  • @josmith213
    @josmith213 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They folded cause Kurt Warner left

  • @simsj2763
    @simsj2763 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that league had the best uniforms ever.

  • @kwamz28
    @kwamz28 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To anyone saying "please bring this back" or anything along those lines...
    Please see European League of Football.

  • @Kingsized_Kevin
    @Kingsized_Kevin หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sacramento Surge!! Chapms

  • @GeorgHaeder
    @GeorgHaeder 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    American Football? Nah! Baseball on the other hand...

  • @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
    @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was truly a great video. Great narration.

  • @jackson711247
    @jackson711247 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use to like the galaxy because of they colors and helmet 😂

  • @andrewmcclellan8808
    @andrewmcclellan8808 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Birmingham stallions back to back champs of the usfl working on being first ufl champs and go back to back to back bringing it home to bama

  • @travmakesbeats3372
    @travmakesbeats3372 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If they really eant some foreigners to play football, id start by getting some sumos to try offensive line. They are made for blocking

  • @timwalkerfukyt
    @timwalkerfukyt 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Galaxy!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jeffpearljam1976
    @jeffpearljam1976 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WFLA?

  • @christopherrobinmarriott7218
    @christopherrobinmarriott7218 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t understand how people watch a football game and then go back And watch a soccer game, the MOST BORING Sport I’ve ever Seen. When a 90 minute 0-0 or 1-0 game is “thrilling“ it means ur sport is boring.
    When the best part of your game is guys flopping around, faking injuries to their shins your sport is boring.

    • @michaelk9284
      @michaelk9284 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unlike american throw ball which five minutes of play time takes thirty five minutes because there's a penalty every other fucking play and guys also roll around on the ground

    • @Kayden123-ci4tr
      @Kayden123-ci4tr หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 hours of adverts😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @barackobama9343
    @barackobama9343 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I REALLY thought the "BIGGEST FINANCIAL FAILURE" of the NFL was PAYING Lamar Jackson +50 MILLION PER YEAR on the back end of his career to NEVER win a meaningful playoff game...

  • @jasonfire3434
    @jasonfire3434 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I miss the original XFL (the one that lasted only one season, go LA Xtreme) and the AAF (Arizona Hotshots), sadly both leagues were horribly managed

  • @nathanembry9245
    @nathanembry9245 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love seeing the nfl fail!

  • @ogarchielee9880
    @ogarchielee9880 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SOUNDS LIKE THE WNBA 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @FrakintheboX
    @FrakintheboX หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good content, but your vocal cadence is so freaking annoying.

  • @chatdaddychasechatdaddycha2271
    @chatdaddychasechatdaddycha2271 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went to a Frankfurt galaxy game in the early 2000s and it’s still one of my fondest memories

  • @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
    @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It really wasn't a bust league. They did produce great players who flew under the radar. Kurt Warner and Jake Delhomme

  • @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
    @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was a great league for player growth.

  • @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752
    @itsmellslikeshitdontit3752 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Football around the world is called the NFL not soccer haha