Thanks for watching Super Nerds! This was by far the hardest I’ve ever had to think about a script, literally hours on the phone with a quantum physicist, but I’m happy with the result. I think we understand the timeline more than the writers or Russos do now! See you in Footnotes. - kH
@BradLad56 and yet when Tony Stark asks if this is the one where they win and Doctor Strange replies, "If I tell you what happens. It won't happen." which shows that Doctor Strange saw a version where he told him they won because of "Your Rat" and they then lost which nullifies your "Rat Joke". Also you could say that Captain Marvel saved the world because Thanos literally was going to snap his fingers but she stopped him right as his finger was going to snap thereby MISS MARVEL/Captain Marvel should be given the true credit for saving the universe from Thanos. I would personally give the credit to Doctor Strange for setting things in motion knowing full well one mis-step could have still caused everyone to lose.
@@runefaustblack When we get the mutants in the MCU, I want Deadpool to go back in time, hijack the Iron Man armor, take Tony's place, keep the visor down and say "And I am..." raise the visor, "DEADPOOL!" Then snap, drop, and a few moments later pop back up and ask if it worked. Thus saving Tony, while the death from using the Guantlet is preserved, it just doesn't... stick.
The real hero was the rat. I wonder how many of all those possibilities of failure was due to that rat not stumbling across ant man's van or not hitting the right combinations of buttons
So, theorically speaking: the time travelers party that stephen hawkings threw years ago may be filled with time travelers from this timeline but as you explained, time travel mess with alternatives realities, there may be other realities where we already know at this point that time travel is possible but as those travels don't affect our timeline, it just divides it, we may never know until it happens.
yes correct you are everywhere and at the same time nowhere like schrodingers cat theory but just like kyle said because of who you are you just experience 1 of the millions of possibilities
Maybe our Reality is the Alpha Earth/Elite Earth/ Earth Prime/OG Earth and "they" all came to an agreement that this Earth/Reality should NOT be tampered with... 🤷🏽♂️Maybe? But all of this still is in Theory. It's like the quote "Guilty till proven Innocent" except here it's... "Theory till proven Factual".
You don't know. Also this is kinda brain breaking but, I think the gist is if time travel is possible AND does occur within our knowledge, then we already exist within the timeline affected by it. By default. Edit: Not quite right. Missing factor. Edit: Definitely wrong. Completely forgot. Alteration of known events. Have you ever opened the can of worms that is Doctor Who?
Red skull would of all ready predicted caps arrival since he is the Guardian of the stone which I guess gives him clairvoyance just for that situation so the whole thing would be even weirder
It also says that Thor and Rocket returned from 2013, while Hawkeye returned from 2014. I think the "went to" part got mixed up, while the "return from" was correct.
@@marvelanddcgroundzero9413 dude it's just to avoid complication, if it was realistic then they wouldn't use 2014 anywhere but earth, since on other planets they wouldn't use the same methods for example B.C or A.D
When playing chess, the "endgame" (in my experience) is the part of the game in which you consider and try to predict possible endings, in order to guide the game toward the one that works the best. So "Endgame" is literally the best possible description of the plot of the movie.
I was thinking of Dota 2's endgame where the game ceases its random 'ganks' and everyone has to play the most strategically and tactically to best your opponent through best positioning/timing. So basically the Avenger cartoons.
@@electromoose1844 He said at the very beginning of the movie, he purposely disintegrated the stones, so his snap could be permanent and they couldn't undo it
@@BarelyFunctionalTK hahaha no it's fine. I've never had an emo phase so I can't talk about it personally but all it seems like is people who can't deal with their emotions in a healthy way creating a niche for themselves
Alternate timelines aren’t the same as parallel universes. Parallel universes are completely different universes but alternate timelines are different timelines within ONE universe.
@@12fuxu2 Why not both? As in why can't his last line of a series of what were both dramas and comedies be both dramatic and comedic? I definitely saw it as a "Fuck you", sure, but also one last little sly joke from a character who loved to mess around with people. It does a disservice to Tony Stark, the Iron Man movies and the MCU as a whole to deny the comedy inherent in such a great line!
Kyle made a good choice at stopping himself at 19:41 Imagine if he had talked about all the branching lines that would be created the moment you picked that one specific timeline you were looking for. 1/14,000,605 would suddenly be infinitely smaller compared to the ramifications of making such a choice. Loved the episode.
Gregg Swanson, that wasn’t actually time travel, it was that his passage of time went differently. Imagine Captain America being frozen, that’s basically what it is.
@@davidforcier4 i'm not pretty sure if the ant man test was timetravel. They actually just reversed or accelerated all motion of every molecule in his body by whic reversed or accelerated all biological process which aged or deaged him.. It's like editing a video to go reverse action or accelerated action, what ever you do the video just keeps on going.. Or i think that was like that..
What I really want to know is, how many people did Hulk inadvertently kill when he unsnapped everyone? If I remember correctly he was told to, "just return the people who disappeared to where they were." Or words to that effect. Most people would be fine, they were in a relatively safe place here reappear, but some people would have been in spaceships, airplanes, ships, or cars. So where do they appear? The spaceship people perhaps find themselves suddenly in deep space suffocating. The airplane people end up in the sky falling down. The ship people are in the middle of the ocean at risk of drowning. The car people seem like they'd be safe, I don't think they'll keep their momentum from when they vanished, but many of them are appearing in the middle of traffic. Luckily for Earth, there's a great many heroes around to rescue people. But this was a universe effecting event. If even one millionth of the people Hulk brings back end up somewhere they can't survive that still ends up being an inconceivably vast number of people dying. And I have to wonder if there's enough food to go around when the population suddenly doubles after 5 years of producing food for the smaller population.
I would imagine that the human race would suffer for a short time while they readjust their production pace but eventually after shaking off the cobwebs, the world would begin to go back to normal.
I think what would've been better was to just bring the heroes back. I know it sounds selfish but this way there will be no civilian casualties from reapearing from the snap. It'll just be the heroes that are brought back. It would also make the future of MCU a bit more dramatic too especially for spider-man now that not only tony will be gone but his friends too. Making room for newer friends such as Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborne's and the real mj later. I could go on but I hope people get what I'm saying
You know, most of my comments are generally intended for Footnotes because I wanna know what Kyle thinks of my ideas but that can wait. This time, well, 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 We love this show 3000 and more, thanks a lot for all the Scienceing you've given us so far and will surely keep giving for a long time to come. Because Science!!
Hey Kyle! Best breakdown of the Endgame timeline I’ve seen yet. But you forgot one thing. Tony Stark solved the quantum particle unlikely timelines by plotting the route on a möbius loop. To allow them to always return to the same point that they left.
@@becausescience There's also a small issue with Spider-Man Homecoming and the "8 years later" jump, which was later retconned by Marvel into 4 years, with the movie happening in 2016, the first Iron Man happening in 2010, IM2 in 2011, Hulk, Thor and Avengers in 2012, Dark World in 2013, Winter Soldier and BOTH Guardians of the Galaxy movies in 2014, Ant-Man and Age of Ultron 2015, Civil War and Homecoming 2016, Doctor Strange 2016-2017, with Black Panther, Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War in 2017 as well, with the the 5 years later then being in 2022... www.empireonline.com/movies/news/official-mcu-timeline-retcons-spider-man-homecoming-time-jump/
Love the video, affect you played at 20:02 was great. At 18:20 you mention that the events of Cap living out a life with Peggy "may or may not have happened in the MCU". I understand it can be a bit confusing as Cap did not return to the main timeline through the time/quantum realm machine, but on a motorbike in a different place in space. Most of the audience forgets is that the characters did not need a time portal/platform to time travel, as shown when Cap and Tony time travel from 2012 to 1970. All that is needed are their time travel devices and suits. So what actually happened was Cap lived out a life with Peggy in an alternate timeline, traveled back to some other place in space, then motorbiked back to Sam, Bucky, etc. Instead of choosing to have an aged Cap just reappear on the platform to avoid confusion, the studio executives must have decided that it would be more impactful for him to reappear on a bench.
No, he meant the other events of the MCU (Loki's invasion, everything with Shield, etc) might not have happened in that timeline. because of the butterfly effect and stuff.
@Adam J. Harper Also Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy restaurant relativity theory (where time seems to slow down if you are in a restaurant waiting for your order, or potentially speed up if you have interesting company during this period).
Hey Kyle, I love your videos and love the latest trend where you put pop culture phenomena to the test in very hands-on, experimental fashion. So I wounder: What amazing things could you do with two of Thor's hammers?
@@AoiKaze2000 Forget Hydrologic Press videos, imagine putting something between two neutron stars, which previously didn't work since there was no base that could stand the pressure, but now...
Wow. Even while watching the Masters piece that is the marvel universe you still first and foremost care about us. Such dedication is the stuff of legend
@@pablitofap The timeline where George actually finished that damn books and so gave them a proper story to follow you mean? Sigh, that's a good timeline...
Once you delve into multiverse theory it's not really time travel anymore. You're going into another universe that happens to match your own past, you're not actually traveling through time.
What makes Because Science so wonderful isn't just the pop culture relevance, or the subject matter, but Kyle's obvious excitement and passion for the science. It's infectious, and may be the cause for so many lives to be infused with the curiosity of science, as I know I have been. Thank you Kyle and Because Science team for all you do.
Ok this is seriously an amazing video. The work that was put into it, the production of it and just the amount of entertainment and fun I got from it... man this is really a 10/10 Seriously thank you for making this videos. You’ve made me become interested in science and physics in a way I never was before. This is amazing and I can’t wait to see what other amazing things you’ll make!
No thats the become your own grandfather paradox which is more about how corrupted your own dna becomes as you become more and more and more precentage of yourself. Think of it this way, if Fry is 25% his grandfather, then becomes his own grandfather, there is not a greater precentage of Fry that IS essentially his grandfather, or him. Repeat and it's like a closed time loop ifinite copy machine making copies of copies until there's nothing left.
So there is a timeline, where i am the owner of Facebook, chairman of Microsoft and CEO of Apple, it is just not the me i am here... Huh.. Sign me up for those Pym Particles
Infinite time lines does not mean infinite possibilities. If there is no alternate combination of events that would result into you being you where you would be able to create Facebook or etc. A more realistic scenario would be that there would be an alternate timeline in which bing became the nowadays known google. This alternate timeline (group) would not need a combination of impossible factors to combine (having someone that you would recognise as being you+you being in the sort of circumstances that you could found the companies (time+place+intelligence+luck, even though that last one will be met in at least 1 timeline) even if there exists a timeline where someone that closely resembles you owns 1 of these companies your timeline bouquet is already blessed, a combination of these would simply not be possible.
There's a thing I'd like someone to address: Doctor Strange saw over 14 million possible futures, and only one of those could lead to the Avengers winning. So, all he could do was to "facilitate" that one future (for example, stopping Star-Lord from screwing the plan of taking the gauntlet from Thanos could have caused that Thanos decided to kill them instead of simply knock them out). Apart from that, Strange can't control other people's actions. And there's my doubt: does that means that Doctor Strange had to hope for the best like a lottery? Or does it means that those 14 million possible futures depended on his actions?
CinemaSins said it themselves: they're not reviewers, they're assholes. They rarely give any substantial criticism other than pointing out plot holes and such because that's not the point: they just want to make jokes at a movie's expense. And they also said themselves that "we've already given our full allotment of f*cks about people who don't understand sarcasm".
Okay. Let me just throw in the fact that a Mobius strip rendering of the timeline (Like Tony asks Friday to run a simulation of) would be the best solution to any potential paradoxes, as two different timelines run alongside, and are as connected as distinct. I had a slightly different theory for the whole thing, but your's works much much better. I'll explain it anyway. We know Gravity bends time, and Ant-Man's mass is a weird thing, but more or less remains constant when the plot needs it to. I was thinking he came to the future, like you first suggested, by being the object with heavy mass. We know for a fact that Faster than light travel exists in the MCU (Jumpgates from GoTG2 basically do that), meaning FTLtravel doesn't cause black holes, and by extension, the relativistic effects of speed or gravity don't create black holes. We see in Ant Man that Scott goes even smaller than the elementary strings in the Universe, and at this point, we can consider his size is negative (and not an infinitesimally small decimal, because nothing is smaller than strings.) This negative size, could essentially mean that relativistically the time around them is reversing, and they're going back in time. They choose how long they need to go back, and then return back to normal size, in the past. But this method works really better than mine. Salute 3000 for your work.
I didn't quite understood one thing at the end. First, let's call the timeline they were all living the "main line". So, do you propose that Cap's alternate unlikely timeline meets the main line in the somewhere around the point where he returns? Or did he have to use Stark's tech to jump from his alternate line to the main line? So the more general question that comes from this is: can these more unlikely lines meet and intersect at certain points? Could a "quantum person" change lines at these meeting points?
Once Cap gets to the alternate timeline with Peggy, he's basically stuck there unless he jumps back. It's an alternate universe, not part of the one he left from. But he still has all the Stark travel tech with him, and over 70 years to set up his return home to the original timeline without using the exact space-time coordinates everyon expected him to use to return (since he isn't bound by the events of the main timeline he can meet up with every MCU superscientist and figure things out). The shield he has with him must be from that alternate timeline, since the original was destroyed by Thanos.
I also had this question. My theory is that he waited to put the final stone back in place, as once he did that, the alternate timeline would disappear. He probably would've waited until Peggy dies to get a full lifetime with her. This is why I think that the last to return would be the Time Stone. It's the easiest to return, and the Ancient One could then send him where he wants to go.
Great video. I have one small comment though on your full timeline. I think Cap joined Peggy sometime in the early 1970s. We know from Winter Soldier that Peggy married a soldier Steve saved, and I don't think he would have tried to make a move. But he dies sometime in the late 60s or early 70s (we know this from the documentary clip at the museum in Winter Soldier) and Cap met up with Peggy right after returning the space stone.
Steve IS the soldier she married. I think he uses his last jump to go to circa 1950 and knows the exact time to turn up at in 2023. You can put his graceful ageing down to the super serum
Well, that's an interesting question, with no easy answer. One of the big questions in physics is how does Quantum Mechanics (which applies to the very small) interact with gravity and General Relativity (which applies to everything else)? The two models work really well for explaining the universe, until you try to combine them, at which point they fall apart. Physicists have been trying to figure this out for quite some time now, but we still don't know. If you've ever heard of String Theory, this is an attempt to combine Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity. To get back to your question, if a quantum-sized Ant-Man interacted with a Black Hole, and he was somehow able to survive the experience, and also get some useful data back to Bruce Banner, they'd be able to finally combine Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity and become Science Superstars.
The problem is that Ant-Man is defying physics on all scales (pun intended). He should become a black hole when getting down to that size. Especially because the distance of atoms supposedly gets smaller than atoms...
Clint son of blah blah blah Natasha daughter of blah blah Steve SON OF A *#... Is, is that my shiny stone? Thank you! my preciousssss. Elrond. Elrond. Great show Kyle. Danker
Best explanation I've seen of the "many worlds theory of time travel" yet. It is also the one I subscribe to, because it's the one that makes the most sense.
The movie's explanation of timelines is similar to the many worlds theory, right? They apparently created multiple timelines each time they went into the past?
@@LadyTanyaNY yea or there are already you know.. A multiverse (which is sorta said in the Spidey new movie and was said by ancient one I guess) what I think they did is make a machine that can pick the right time and place
@@LadyTanyaNY buuut things that make me think that the many worlds theory is not what they use which is probably just nitpicking is while picking the right time n space they are also picking the right world or else the stones wouldn't be in the same place at all, so maybe they made the split each time they traveled
YES! I noticed this when they explained it in the movie! It's jsut like when DBS revealed that the TRunks from the everyone is dead universe is STILL around even though that event never happened in the main timeline. His timeline wasn't erased, and he was still able to connect with the timeline branch that he created. Similarly to how Cap would have to be able to go into the timeline branches created by removing each stone in order to return it.
Mind...completely...blown. So I guess that means in Tony's snap scene when Thanos's army is dusted that event has no "ripple/butterfly" effect on the time line because once the Avengers had the stones and had removed the quantum players most likely to be able to retake control of the time line they were just artifacts of an alternate timeline that no longer existed anyway. So, in essence Tony snapping them out of existence was resecuring the Avengers' preferred two points in time together. So that /should/ also tale care of the paradox of Nebula shooting herself. The two "Nebulae" are independent from one another once the time lines are split. Each with her own future yet to be written. One thing I don't get is that apparently past Gamorra lives through the snap and doesn't return to her timeline, staying in 2023 instead. I suppose that's also possible because her fate was no longer the same as the "original" Gamorra's. It kinda makes my brain hurt... Anyway, love the show and I honestly kinda want that tangly quantum timeline on a t-shirt because reasons.
The way I understood it was that the universes split when Nebula's apparently cloud based memory was seen by the "younger" Nebula. So the Thanos, Nebula and Gamora from that universe traveled into the universe of our Avengers, and as a result of 2/3 dying, and Gamora not returning to her own timeline, there is now a timeline created where those three are gone. So, theoretically, they may have incidentally saved 2 timelines from the snap, one we observed where they used the infinity stones to bring the snapped people back to their "present", and a completely different one where Thanos was removed from the timeline altogether and never used the infinity stones in the first place.
@@skepticalbadger I mean the other possibility would I guess be that when Cap returned the infinity stone to that timeline, he could have maybe stopped that series of events for that thread? That would mean that the timeline that Thanos, Gamora, and Nebula came from collapsed after he went back... but I think my first guess is more likely.
One of the problems with going back in time in the "many worlds" quantum system is that we have observed the timeline already. Observing a particle locks their position in space and time, but before that they are linked by Heisenbergs uncertainty principle. Surely, then, going back and "reliving" this time COULDN'T change anything or wouldn't allow you to live in an alternate time, or take an alternate path outside of the quantum realm? Inside the quatum realm you could almost allow the selection of alternate paths to time travel, since at this level everything is waves and not observed on the macro level.
Could you re-observe the same particle in spacetime and get a different outcome? You might be going back, but the place you're going back to is now happening for the first time, so any possible thing could happen. What you are observing now, after time traveling, won't have a cause-and-effect correlation with your timeline, but it will still affect the future of this new deviant timeline. Am I just missing, or misunderstanding, something?
@@user-wt2dz5bx5m I honestly have no idea. I know that observing a particle in, say, a double slit experiment essentially changes a wave into a particle, but then if you were to go back and observe the *exact same* particle is that locked to the one position it was in previously because it's now locked in? Or is it essentially been undone and can be redone in any way? Really hard to tell. And now my brain hurts
@@SciencewithSteph simple! You are not changing anything because all events happen. If you was to travel backwards in time to observe an event you had already observed you would actually be traveling to an alternate route in which you had observed twice. The choice is to stay on this route or return to your original route in which your past would still be intact exactly as you remember it, the other route you could then live out a new memory. But you can not change how your original route plays out.
You mentioned a pretty beautiful idea I think: That all possible timelines are playing out next to us but we only experience the most likely one. Another way of putting that would be saying that we are living out the world which 'won' the constant lottery of quantum mechanics.
sounds cool for sure it is the year 2394: scientist one: "I have a meeting 4 years ago, want to go to the Infinity Tube™ with me?" scientist two: "Yeah sure, I forgot to turn my gas out 4 years ago and it burned down my house.. might as well fix that haha" passing by grad student: "umm"
Possible time-travel plothole: I get how they could travel to the past, based on this, but wouldn’t then travelling back to the future just take you to the future of the new timeline you created? If not and the future time travel allows you to pick the timeline you go to, is the implication that Old cap didn’t just grow old but grew old and then shifted timelines back to the main line? How?!
As explained in the video, think of the quantum realm as the many worlds interpretation, every possibility exists, so theyre able to just take the same "tunnel" they took to get in each of the time stops backwards. The old cap is a problem however, because it does seem captain america lived through the 'time heist' timeline as opposed to the main timeline. The time heist timeline also has Loki alive, and Thanos and his minions vanished after 2014.
Robert Lunarr Lowest performing Marvel movie, which is why I pushed it out when I said “some are the most successful of all time.” No disrespect to Norton obv - kH
Ikr I wish they would have continued with Norton and his Hulk. That hulk could do all the moves. Gamma stomping and clapping on future enemies is what I wanted to see. Not no professor hulk bs, everyone wanted the rematch not a celebrity taking selfies.
Hey, Kyle, great (and ambitious) video!! This may be a nitpicky correction, but I think you may have missed the Avengers' plan, which may change your explanation of the closed timeline curve. If you remember, in the movie, they weren't planning on stopping the snap from happening (for reasons that you pretty much exactly outlined). They would most certainly create a paradox if they tried this, but what they instead tried to do was to gather the stones, reverse the effects of the snap, and put the stones back so Thanos' original snap still happens. In doing this, they would avoid the inevitability of the snappening and keep all of the original events of the franchise on its worldline. ...given, it didn't exactly work out that way in the movie, but had it gone perfectly, their original plan would have been consistent with the closed timeline curve model. Love the show!!!
I was under the impression they didn't undo it because stark wanted to keep his daughter. If they went back and prevented it, they'd be in an alternate reality. No paradox. (Also stark doing that to keep his daughter makes him the biggest asshole in the universe. Think of all the people that died in planes and cars during the snap, families torn apart, loved ones moving on only to have their dead spouses returned... None of that was undone)
@@ewan121 not just his daughter though but the millions other sons and daughters that were born sense. While some of the snapped ppl died upon being brought back (imagine reappearing inbetween two newly constructed building floors or inside of a bystander) they atleast got to exist. Reversing the snap would be removing millions from ever existing period.
Was THIS timeline an alternative timeline? Didn't Thanos go back in time by using the time stone because Scarlet Witch destroyed the mind stone on vision's head??
Hey Kyle, love the show- So basically from what you say between 14:12-15-32 could be translated to- "People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually - from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff." - The Tenth Doctor(Doctor Who, "Blink") Also, given all the possible timelines, there MUST be one where Ant-man tries to be an Ass-assin, but it doesn't work, so that's not the movie we got to see.
I just wanna know something. This has been keeping me up at night since I’ve seen it. So...I saw the Sonic trailer and one of the parts that stuck out to me-other than how Sonic actually looked- was when James Marsden’s character was falling for the top of a building and Sonic through a ring and “teleported” him to what seems like a barn. The part that is “keeping me up” isn’t the science of the ring to be able to transport someone instantly through space, but if that would work to save him from the actually fall. When James’ character is falling gravity is working with him to accelerate to the ground, up until he reaches terminal velocity. That is if the building is tall enough to be able to allow him to reach terminal velocity. For the sake of this let’s say he does reach terminal velocity. I also assume the rings works like a portal gun as well. That being said, to go from falling with gravity working with you to moving horizontally with gravity working against you, would the impact of hitting the barn kill him or would he even reach the barn door before gravity came into play and would that impact of falling on the ground kill him as well. I’m assuming that going from falling to “moving” he would keep the same acceleration up on till gravity becomes a factor in the horizontal direction. I’m curios, anyone know? I’m sorry if there are any type-os present 😅
Hello Kyle! I really loved the episode and I appreciate the tremendous amount of work and research you do in every single video! You are the best connection there is between science and pop culture! That being said, I do have a small amount of nitpicking I want to do and it is addressed to the image of the black whole. The Event horizon which bends your personal Light cone, and from which light cannot escape should be focused on the center of the image of the black whole and should not extend all the way to the boundaries where hot matter is visible. I feel like this is more of a nitpicking than a correction, but once a beautiful TH-camr said "technically correct is the best kind of correct!". Never stop making Because Science and I am very excited about Because Space.
The Russo Brothers: “We spoke with real physicists.” Kyle: “Hold my time paradox.” I feel smarter and stupider at the same time. Good stuff Kyle. The movie is still a terrific bookend to the MCU’s first 11 years. I enjoyed it very much. By the way, do you just keep putting “quantum” in front of everything Kyle?
Thanks for watching Super Nerds! This was by far the hardest I’ve ever had to think about a script, literally hours on the phone with a quantum physicist, but I’m happy with the result. I think we understand the timeline more than the writers or Russos do now! See you in Footnotes. - kH
Thanks Kile.
Ok
maybe tony just invented a Flux Capacitor
Kyle, what do you plan on making for the 1 million subs special?
dontchu dare diss the incredible hulk
We all thought that Antman would go for Thanos's ass, who knew that he'd be more interested in Cap's?
@I Love To Suck a Pee Pee Who cares?
hahahaha
@I Love To Suck a Pee Pee you name says it all. tho no homo i guess XD
Not all of us are obsessed with Cap's ass
lol
Avengers Endgame: uses Quantum Physics
Kyle: On your left!
sssshhhhhhssss you cannot say that
But his past self appeared on his right. It was only on the left from your perspective.
@@Darkstar..... just let him have this meme, it's all he has
Doctor Strange: Looks into the timeline where they win.
Rat: Waves at him.
@BradLad56 and yet when Tony Stark asks if this is the one where they win and Doctor Strange replies, "If I tell you what happens. It won't happen." which shows that Doctor Strange saw a version where he told him they won because of "Your Rat" and they then lost which nullifies your "Rat Joke". Also you could say that Captain Marvel saved the world because Thanos literally was going to snap his fingers but she stopped him right as his finger was going to snap thereby MISS MARVEL/Captain Marvel should be given the true credit for saving the universe from Thanos. I would personally give the credit to Doctor Strange for setting things in motion knowing full well one mis-step could have still caused everyone to lose.
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@@noonespecial6076 _Everyone_ saved the universe. Tony was just the one who put a stop to the battle and gave his life in the process.
@@runefaustblack When we get the mutants in the MCU, I want Deadpool to go back in time, hijack the Iron Man armor, take Tony's place, keep the visor down and say "And I am..." raise the visor, "DEADPOOL!" Then snap, drop, and a few moments later pop back up and ask if it worked. Thus saving Tony, while the death from using the Guantlet is preserved, it just doesn't... stick.
I wish there had been an end credits scene showing Captain America breaking into the storage yard with a cage to put the rat into the van.
''The professor hulk thing, he is much much better''
-Professor Thor
Ragnarok
(Fox') X-Men: We have the most complicated timeline!
Avengers: Hold our beers. Except for Thor's
Avengers: hold our beers
Thor: *drinks it*
actually, get Thor another beer
Before I liked this comment, there was 69. Noobmaster69 is villain for ASGuardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 confirmed!
Actually hold his first, he doesn't need it
Thor’s probably gonna continue to hold his own beer
I watched three or four other attempts by people trying to explain Endgame time travel. Yours is the best.
The real hero was the rat. I wonder how many of all those possibilities of failure was due to that rat not stumbling across ant man's van or not hitting the right combinations of buttons
there were 1:14,000,605 approximately
@@numa_kai yep, in total. But not all rat related.
This was the only point in any Marvel movie that felt like lazy writing to me!!
I'd be willing to bet that at least a million of those possibilities were thrown out due to the rat messing up. At least.
@@Thesaurus_Rex I can imagine Doctor Strange cursing everytime the rat messes up.
Normal Thor
Avengers Thor
OP Thor
Fat Thor
*Professor Thor*
Thor is not OP
If anything he is UP.
@@ted544 think he means the full-on thunder god Thor at the end of Ragnorok.
what is "OP" Thor ?
En théo Ragnarok and Infinity war Thor
@@vinylbringer
but why "OP" ?
So, theorically speaking: the time travelers party that stephen hawkings threw years ago may be filled with time travelers from this timeline but as you explained, time travel mess with alternatives realities, there may be other realities where we already know at this point that time travel is possible but as those travels don't affect our timeline, it just divides it, we may never know until it happens.
yes correct you are everywhere and at the same time nowhere like schrodingers cat theory but just like kyle said because of who you are you just experience 1 of the millions of possibilities
Maybe our Reality is the Alpha Earth/Elite Earth/ Earth Prime/OG Earth and "they" all came to an agreement that this Earth/Reality should NOT be tampered with... 🤷🏽♂️Maybe? But all of this still is in Theory. It's like the quote "Guilty till proven Innocent" except here it's... "Theory till proven Factual".
You don't know. Also this is kinda brain breaking but, I think the gist is if time travel is possible AND does occur within our knowledge, then we already exist within the timeline affected by it. By default.
Edit: Not quite right. Missing factor.
Edit: Definitely wrong. Completely forgot. Alteration of known events.
Have you ever opened the can of worms that is Doctor Who?
@@pwrperalta12 in the Marvel/DC universe maybe yeah
@@jon7941 yes exactly I think
I would pay money to see Red Skull's face when Cap cones back in time and hands him the soul stone
I would pay money to see Cap's face when that happens
He does not have free will or conscious(ness) now.
Right?! I bet he's turn so red...oh...wait...nevermind.
Red skull would of all ready predicted caps arrival since he is the Guardian of the stone which I guess gives him clairvoyance just for that situation so the whole thing would be even weirder
I would pay £100 to see that.
The chart says Thor and Rocket went to 2014, while Widow, Hawkeye, War Machine and Nebula went to 2013...wasn't it the other way around?
I believe so
Yes, you're right.
dupersuper1938 Technically you are right but time works differently even in MCU. Asgard is not a planet so time does not pass as the same on Earth.
It also says that Thor and Rocket returned from 2013, while Hawkeye returned from 2014. I think the "went to" part got mixed up, while the "return from" was correct.
@@marvelanddcgroundzero9413 dude it's just to avoid complication, if it was realistic then they wouldn't use 2014 anywhere but earth, since on other planets they wouldn't use the same methods for example B.C or A.D
When playing chess, the "endgame" (in my experience) is the part of the game in which you consider and try to predict possible endings, in order to guide the game toward the one that works the best. So "Endgame" is literally the best possible description of the plot of the movie.
Even the title's a spoiler!
@@Saifthebest01 true
I was thinking of Dota 2's endgame where the game ceases its random 'ganks' and everyone has to play the most strategically and tactically to best your opponent through best positioning/timing. So basically the Avenger cartoons.
You're reading into it too much m8
Instructions gone very wrong. Couldn't send the infinity stones back to its' places and accidentally summoned Dormammu and Hela
Dormammu's not dead
@@Yellowdigigod no shit
You idiot. Didn't you read the warnings? They're after the instructions.
I thought dormamu is cosmic being ...he will always exist in the past present future..
@@kirua_h yes he is
Physics: revealing that the seemingly mundane is extraordinarily complex.
My brain was mush at 9 minutes 😵😂
I didn't even make it that fair before I stArted drooling on myself
@Razh 80 r/iamverysmart
Am I the only one sad we didn't get to see Cap give the Soul Stone back to Red Skull?
What I don't understand is why the stones disintegrated when Thanos used them but not when iron man used them
I had hoped he'd go with Natasha and sacrifice Red Skull, given the important the guy plays in his own past.
Thanos was trying to disintegrate the stones with his second snap, which is how they found him to behead him
@@electromoose1844 He said at the very beginning of the movie, he purposely disintegrated the stones, so his snap could be permanent and they couldn't undo it
And see if BW got refunded.
after watching End Game, THIS is the only thing i really wanted to watch. Thank you 3000!
Shim "I love Stark 3000" copyrighted-endgame
Gosh dang it. Ya had to do that reference.
@Scott Summers irony....
Thanks for calling me out Kyle 21:32!
He did?? Awesome!!!
Kyle: I spent 10 hours on call with a quantum physicist for this video.
Whatever it takes!
@Kermit of Rivia yes but actually no. Emo haircut, not in the emo phase lol
@@BarelyFunctionalTK Happy for you. Emo phases are really weird
@@eagle3676 weird thing is, I've always had this emo haircut but never went through the emo phase... Is it too late to try it?
@@BarelyFunctionalTK hahaha no it's fine. I've never had an emo phase so I can't talk about it personally but all it seems like is people who can't deal with their emotions in a healthy way creating a niche for themselves
I guess going forward it will now be the: Marvel Cinematic Multiverse
The MCU is connected to the Marvel Comics, so it's already since the beginning
Glalactus laugh about it
Alternate timelines aren’t the same as parallel universes. Parallel universes are completely different universes but alternate timelines are different timelines within ONE universe.
I was basing my comment on the Far From Home trailer
@@markdrakan Could just be a mental trap from Mysterio for spider-man to make him think he can see Tony again, since he is kinda a bad guy
If they entered the wormhole in the year 2012 they would come out of the wormhole in the year 2012, but it would be labeled 2019 8:10
"I am inevitable."
"Hi, Inevitable, I am Iron Man."
Seriously, Tony Stark went out with a dad joke.
No. YOU made a dad joke. Stark made a statement of fact and went out like a boss.
It's also a great call back to the beginning of it all with Iron Man I and Tony's first official statement to the press... "I am Iron Man."
@@dagazrune6453 Exactly what I thought when I rewatched Iron Man.
Well, he IS a dad now.
@@12fuxu2 Why not both? As in why can't his last line of a series of what were both dramas and comedies be both dramatic and comedic? I definitely saw it as a "Fuck you", sure, but also one last little sly joke from a character who loved to mess around with people. It does a disservice to Tony Stark, the Iron Man movies and the MCU as a whole to deny the comedy inherent in such a great line!
You don’t mess with time travel, time travel messes with you.
That is the choice of Steins;gate. El Psy Kongroo.
Not when you have za warudo you can control time itself
Omega I was really expecting them to pull off some S;G0 stuff 😂
@@ralseiwithagun9859 I believe we might need bites za dusto for this one
Kyle made a good choice at stopping himself at 19:41
Imagine if he had talked about all the branching lines that would be created the moment you picked that one specific timeline you were looking for.
1/14,000,605 would suddenly be infinitely smaller compared to the ramifications of making such a choice.
Loved the episode.
You forgot a time travel. Ant-Man jumped from 2018 to 2023. It only took him 5 hours.
Gregg Swanson, that wasn’t actually time travel, it was that his passage of time went differently. Imagine Captain America being frozen, that’s basically what it is.
@@mr.scarlo2234 well yes but it is also still practicaly time travel.
We could also count the two tests : the ones with AntMan messing with his age, and the one Clint did.
@@davidforcier4 i'm not pretty sure if the ant man test was timetravel. They actually just reversed or accelerated all motion of every molecule in his body by whic reversed or accelerated all biological process which aged or deaged him.. It's like editing a video to go reverse action or accelerated action, what ever you do the video just keeps on going.. Or i think that was like that..
Kyle, thank for not having a thumbnail that spoils Endgame like ScreenRant has been doing since it came out.
Yes! Fuckers.
Hey, they got to get them views no matter what dignity it costs. -- kH
@@becausescience Whatever it takes.
What I really want to know is, how many people did Hulk inadvertently kill when he unsnapped everyone? If I remember correctly he was told to, "just return the people who disappeared to where they were." Or words to that effect. Most people would be fine, they were in a relatively safe place here reappear, but some people would have been in spaceships, airplanes, ships, or cars. So where do they appear? The spaceship people perhaps find themselves suddenly in deep space suffocating. The airplane people end up in the sky falling down. The ship people are in the middle of the ocean at risk of drowning. The car people seem like they'd be safe, I don't think they'll keep their momentum from when they vanished, but many of them are appearing in the middle of traffic.
Luckily for Earth, there's a great many heroes around to rescue people. But this was a universe effecting event. If even one millionth of the people Hulk brings back end up somewhere they can't survive that still ends up being an inconceivably vast number of people dying.
And I have to wonder if there's enough food to go around when the population suddenly doubles after 5 years of producing food for the smaller population.
According to Kevin Feige and the Russo brothers, Hulk made sure everyone was snapped back in a safe place. The food point is interesting, though
I would imagine that the human race would suffer for a short time while they readjust their production pace but eventually after shaking off the cobwebs, the world would begin to go back to normal.
I think what would've been better was to just bring the heroes back. I know it sounds selfish but this way there will be no civilian casualties from reapearing from the snap. It'll just be the heroes that are brought back. It would also make the future of MCU a bit more dramatic too especially for spider-man now that not only tony will be gone but his friends too. Making room for newer friends such as Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborne's and the real mj later. I could go on but I hope people get what I'm saying
But in Far from home we saw people reappearing where they were last seen
@@chanbricks4461 I think that apply for people in a dangerous situation. Like a gym is more safe.
You know, most of my comments are generally intended for Footnotes because I wanna know what Kyle thinks of my ideas but that can wait. This time, well,
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
We love this show 3000 and more, thanks a lot for all the Scienceing you've given us so far and will surely keep giving for a long time to come. Because Science!!
Hey Kyle! Best breakdown of the Endgame timeline I’ve seen yet.
But you forgot one thing. Tony Stark solved the quantum particle unlikely timelines by plotting the route on a möbius loop.
To allow them to always return to the same point that they left.
Gooooood catch
I thought it was a clever element that they included into the movie.
Don’t be so hard. We’re all here for a good time.
Inverted mobius loop even :)
Good point… but what is an inverted möbius loop?
0:27 ... Heeeeeey, _The Incredible Hulk_ wasn't so bad!
Now the _Hulk_ movie that preceded it, starring Eric Bana, on the other hand...
I liked the Edward hulk. Not sure why it gets hate
Your time line diagram is wrong. Thor and Rocket go to 2013, Nat, Clint, Nebula, and Rhody go to 2014
You should get more upvotes, you're right.
I was wondering if someone was gonna mention this lol 2013 contained Thor and rocket and 2014 contained nebula,rodey , Clint and nat
^this, bumping for visibility
All that work and I still messed up something. Perfect. -- kH
@@becausescience There's also a small issue with Spider-Man Homecoming and the "8 years later" jump, which was later retconned by Marvel into 4 years, with the movie happening in 2016, the first Iron Man happening in 2010, IM2 in 2011, Hulk, Thor and Avengers in 2012, Dark World in 2013, Winter Soldier and BOTH Guardians of the Galaxy movies in 2014, Ant-Man and Age of Ultron 2015, Civil War and Homecoming 2016, Doctor Strange 2016-2017, with Black Panther, Thor Ragnarok and Infinity War in 2017 as well, with the the 5 years later then being in 2022...
www.empireonline.com/movies/news/official-mcu-timeline-retcons-spider-man-homecoming-time-jump/
"...at the blistering pace of one second, every second." xD
That dramatic pause...
It is blistering - just for those of us who experience events we don't want to XD
@@TopHatProductions115 xD
Love the video, affect you played at 20:02 was great. At 18:20 you mention that the events of Cap living out a life with Peggy "may or may not have happened in the MCU". I understand it can be a bit confusing as Cap did not return to the main timeline through the time/quantum realm machine, but on a motorbike in a different place in space. Most of the audience forgets is that the characters did not need a time portal/platform to time travel, as shown when Cap and Tony time travel from 2012 to 1970. All that is needed are their time travel devices and suits. So what actually happened was Cap lived out a life with Peggy in an alternate timeline, traveled back to some other place in space, then motorbiked back to Sam, Bucky, etc. Instead of choosing to have an aged Cap just reappear on the platform to avoid confusion, the studio executives must have decided that it would be more impactful for him to reappear on a bench.
No, he meant the other events of the MCU (Loki's invasion, everything with Shield, etc) might not have happened in that timeline. because of the butterfly effect and stuff.
I played back 20:02 at .25 speed and I still can’t tell
"At a blistering pace of 1s per second"
Shoeb Shaikh i think it’s too fast sometimes
Strangely, sometimes it feels too slow and other times it feels too fast
@Adam J. Harper Also Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy restaurant relativity theory (where time seems to slow down if you are in a restaurant waiting for your order, or potentially speed up if you have interesting company during this period).
It's absolutely blistering compared to watching Dragon Ball Z, which goes at a pace of .05s per second (3s per minute).
Adam J. Harper: "woman-chocking tag porn"? Does that have anything to do with this? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_chock
Hey Kyle, I love your videos and love the latest trend where you put pop culture phenomena to the test in very hands-on, experimental fashion. So I wounder: What amazing things could you do with two of Thor's hammers?
He'd be... thunderstruck.
@@AoiKaze2000 Forget Hydrologic Press videos, imagine putting something between two neutron stars, which previously didn't work since there was no base that could stand the pressure, but now...
@@wellreadbull3740 So you're saying he's got the biggest balls of them all?
I would use them as the worlds loudest thunder sticks! (those inflatable tube noise makers you get at football and soccer games.)
Give Stormbreaker to Beta Ray Bill in Asguardians of the Galaxy...
"Wait, so you're saying Back to the Future is bullshit?" - Sam
One of my favorite lines in the movie.
wrong black guy :p
That was Iron Nigga bro
Sam was dead, dude.
Pretty sure that was Scott/Ant-Man that said that...
TigerWolf
No it was Rhodes.
Because science: solves time travel
Also because science: uploads it to TH-cam
Totally I don’t get it
He didn’t solve it, he’s restating research that was done and figured out a while ago
Lydendor1 I think he was joking idk
you nailed it, nothing here was explain with science
0:25 "Some which are the most successful... of all time..."
(Pushes "The Incredible Hulk" out of way)
"Howard the Duck" of 1986 welcomes you!
Wow. Even while watching the Masters piece that is the marvel universe you still first and foremost care about us. Such dedication is the stuff of legend
The avengers universe is political dribble.
@@Darkstar..... how? Other than captain marvel I can't think of anything political from the MCU
this means we can go back in time and fix the game of thrones plot
also: this is gonna be a great footnotes episode hahah
Sadly there is no fixing GOT.
Somethings are inevitable. Somethings must and will happen.
@@pablitofap The timeline where George actually finished that damn books and so gave them a proper story to follow you mean? Sigh, that's a good timeline...
Sorry it's error 503
Thor : * *Cuts Thanos's hand* *
Thanos : You should've gone for the hea...
Thor :* *Cuts Thanos's head* *
Also Thor : Say no more...
he took note, head is good
Once you delve into multiverse theory it's not really time travel anymore. You're going into another universe that happens to match your own past, you're not actually traveling through time.
it still is time-travelling though, but no longer timeline-changing. Yeah, i know i know... i replied a year too late 😂
@@johnelmartagbago3764 u also replied a year early
22 films
22 minutes
Balanced as all things should be.
Um actually is 22minutes and 21 seconds
The should have added another Second, dammit
and you currently have 22 likes, I would have liked too, but I didn't want to ruin it
r/ -un- ExpectedThanos
santiago ardila we round here.
What makes Because Science so wonderful isn't just the pop culture relevance, or the subject matter, but Kyle's obvious excitement and passion for the science. It's infectious, and may be the cause for so many lives to be infused with the curiosity of science, as I know I have been.
Thank you Kyle and Because Science team for all you do.
Ok this is seriously an amazing video. The work that was put into it, the production of it and just the amount of entertainment and fun I got from it... man this is really a 10/10
Seriously thank you for making this videos. You’ve made me become interested in science and physics in a way I never was before. This is amazing and I can’t wait to see what other amazing things you’ll make!
10:42 - The Grandfather Paradox might as well be named "The Phillip J. Fry Paradox"
No thats the become your own grandfather paradox which is more about how corrupted your own dna becomes as you become more and more and more precentage of yourself. Think of it this way, if Fry is 25% his grandfather, then becomes his own grandfather, there is not a greater precentage of Fry that IS essentially his grandfather, or him. Repeat and it's like a closed time loop ifinite copy machine making copies of copies until there's nothing left.
@@Luinta unless he has always been his own grandfather, which means he was always more then 25%
He did do the nasty in the past-y.
@@deathsyth8888 I can't stop laughing! Thank you for that! hahaha
So there is a timeline, where i am the owner of Facebook, chairman of Microsoft and CEO of Apple, it is just not the me i am here...
Huh..
Sign me up for those Pym Particles
Infinite time lines does not mean infinite possibilities. If there is no alternate combination of events that would result into you being you where you would be able to create Facebook or etc. A more realistic scenario would be that there would be an alternate timeline in which bing became the nowadays known google. This alternate timeline (group) would not need a combination of impossible factors to combine (having someone that you would recognise as being you+you being in the sort of circumstances that you could found the companies (time+place+intelligence+luck, even though that last one will be met in at least 1 timeline) even if there exists a timeline where someone that closely resembles you owns 1 of these companies your timeline bouquet is already blessed, a combination of these would simply not be possible.
There's a thing I'd like someone to address: Doctor Strange saw over 14 million possible futures, and only one of those could lead to the Avengers winning. So, all he could do was to "facilitate" that one future (for example, stopping Star-Lord from screwing the plan of taking the gauntlet from Thanos could have caused that Thanos decided to kill them instead of simply knock them out). Apart from that, Strange can't control other people's actions. And there's my doubt: does that means that Doctor Strange had to hope for the best like a lottery? Or does it means that those 14 million possible futures depended on his actions?
Cinemasins have already sinned you for " Six seconds of goddamn logos"
Станіслав Костюк cinema sins is retarded way too nitpicking it ruins the movies
Cinemasins is only good to watch when you actually don't like a movie, validation from the internet and all that
Cinema sins is arbitrary at best and poor film criticism all the time -- kH
@@Nemesis2508. that's the point tho
CinemaSins said it themselves: they're not reviewers, they're assholes. They rarely give any substantial criticism other than pointing out plot holes and such because that's not the point: they just want to make jokes at a movie's expense. And they also said themselves that "we've already given our full allotment of f*cks about people who don't understand sarcasm".
So I guess, you now have a decent enough excuse to go excessively drink beer, get outta shape and yell at kids playing fortnight... :P
so you just explained what Dr. Strange did (and what went on in his head) in the course of .....2 mins?
So what you’re saying is there IS a timeline where Ant-Man flew up Thanos’ butt.
It is inevitable
But they didn't defeat him that way.
Sean Wadey yeah but at least he went up his butt.
Dread it. Run from it. Because Science arrives all the same.
If you travel to the past, that past becomes your future, and your former present becomes the past which can't now be changed by your new future.
Okay.
Let me just throw in the fact that a Mobius strip rendering of the timeline (Like Tony asks Friday to run a simulation of) would be the best solution to any potential paradoxes, as two different timelines run alongside, and are as connected as distinct.
I had a slightly different theory for the whole thing, but your's works much much better. I'll explain it anyway.
We know Gravity bends time, and Ant-Man's mass is a weird thing, but more or less remains constant when the plot needs it to. I was thinking he came to the future, like you first suggested, by being the object with heavy mass.
We know for a fact that Faster than light travel exists in the MCU (Jumpgates from GoTG2 basically do that), meaning FTLtravel doesn't cause black holes, and by extension, the relativistic effects of speed or gravity don't create black holes.
We see in Ant Man that Scott goes even smaller than the elementary strings in the Universe, and at this point, we can consider his size is negative (and not an infinitesimally small decimal, because nothing is smaller than strings.) This negative size, could essentially mean that relativistically the time around them is reversing, and they're going back in time. They choose how long they need to go back, and then return back to normal size, in the past.
But this method works really better than mine. Salute 3000 for your work.
Sasi Mitra damn
I didn't quite understood one thing at the end. First, let's call the timeline they were all living the "main line". So, do you propose that Cap's alternate unlikely timeline meets the main line in the somewhere around the point where he returns? Or did he have to use Stark's tech to jump from his alternate line to the main line?
So the more general question that comes from this is: can these more unlikely lines meet and intersect at certain points? Could a "quantum person" change lines at these meeting points?
Only explanation I can think of is it's a different Cap from another alternate time line.
Once Cap gets to the alternate timeline with Peggy, he's basically stuck there unless he jumps back. It's an alternate universe, not part of the one he left from. But he still has all the Stark travel tech with him, and over 70 years to set up his return home to the original timeline without using the exact space-time coordinates everyon expected him to use to return (since he isn't bound by the events of the main timeline he can meet up with every MCU superscientist and figure things out). The shield he has with him must be from that alternate timeline, since the original was destroyed by Thanos.
I also had this question. My theory is that he waited to put the final stone back in place, as once he did that, the alternate timeline would disappear. He probably would've waited until Peggy dies to get a full lifetime with her. This is why I think that the last to return would be the Time Stone. It's the easiest to return, and the Ancient One could then send him where he wants to go.
@@ObakeOnna If that's an actual Captain America shield, it means he stole it from alternate Cap.
Great video. I have one small comment though on your full timeline. I think Cap joined Peggy sometime in the early 1970s. We know from Winter Soldier that Peggy married a soldier Steve saved, and I don't think he would have tried to make a move. But he dies sometime in the late 60s or early 70s (we know this from the documentary clip at the museum in Winter Soldier) and Cap met up with Peggy right after returning the space stone.
Steve IS the soldier she married. I think he uses his last jump to go to circa 1950 and knows the exact time to turn up at in 2023. You can put his graceful ageing down to the super serum
What would happen if Ant-man interacted with a Black Hole while Quantum-sized?
Well, that's an interesting question, with no easy answer. One of the big questions in physics is how does Quantum Mechanics (which applies to the very small) interact with gravity and General Relativity (which applies to everything else)? The two models work really well for explaining the universe, until you try to combine them, at which point they fall apart. Physicists have been trying to figure this out for quite some time now, but we still don't know.
If you've ever heard of String Theory, this is an attempt to combine Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity.
To get back to your question, if a quantum-sized Ant-Man interacted with a Black Hole, and he was somehow able to survive the experience, and also get some useful data back to Bruce Banner, they'd be able to finally combine Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity and become Science Superstars.
The problem is that Ant-Man is defying physics on all scales (pun intended). He should become a black hole when getting down to that size. Especially because the distance of atoms supposedly gets smaller than atoms...
@@zamundaaa776 well you just have to slap a few Pym particles and plot convenience in there to fill that gaping logical hole, and you're all good!
Clint son of blah blah blah
Natasha daughter of blah blah
Steve SON OF A *#... Is, is that my shiny stone? Thank you! my preciousssss. Elrond. Elrond.
Great show Kyle. Danker
Thor already made that joke in Ragnarok.
That's it, technically Cap brought all Red Skull's target to him.
"Light-Speed Boundary" sounds like a great techno album name.
In Endgame Antman shattered a building by expanding so he must have more expansion force than you calculated.
Or, the building was structurally unsound.
Best explanation I've seen of the "many worlds theory of time travel" yet. It is also the one I subscribe to, because it's the one that makes the most sense.
*meanwhile I'm so confused and feel like I should never ever try anything about time travel ever again* o.o hi um mind lending me some IQ?
The movie's explanation of timelines is similar to the many worlds theory, right? They apparently created multiple timelines each time they went into the past?
@@LadyTanyaNY yea or there are already you know.. A multiverse (which is sorta said in the Spidey new movie and was said by ancient one I guess) what I think they did is make a machine that can pick the right time and place
@@LadyTanyaNY buuut things that make me think that the many worlds theory is not what they use which is probably just nitpicking is while picking the right time n space they are also picking the right world or else the stones wouldn't be in the same place at all, so maybe they made the split each time they traveled
Bro I am not a scientist but I always enjoy ur videos.
This is how Dragon Ball handles Time Travel too, basically :D
YES! I noticed this when they explained it in the movie!
It's jsut like when DBS revealed that the TRunks from the everyone is dead universe is STILL around even though that event never happened in the main timeline. His timeline wasn't erased, and he was still able to connect with the timeline branch that he created. Similarly to how Cap would have to be able to go into the timeline branches created by removing each stone in order to return it.
This video is 22:22 minutes long
Me: *Suspiciously Suspicious*
I gave up at like 2:22
whenever i look at the clock late evening its so often 22:22 ...suspicious?
@@zZz-ye4fq Cetrion detected
For me it say 22:21
and now for me is 00:22
**Pushes Incredible Hulk out the way**
Thor the dark world "Am I a joke to you"
_Iron Man 2_ and _3_ want a piece too.
the hulk movie was better then captin marvel XD
Mind...completely...blown.
So I guess that means in Tony's snap scene when Thanos's army is dusted that event has no "ripple/butterfly" effect on the time line because once the Avengers had the stones and had removed the quantum players most likely to be able to retake control of the time line they were just artifacts of an alternate timeline that no longer existed anyway. So, in essence Tony snapping them out of existence was resecuring the Avengers' preferred two points in time together.
So that /should/ also tale care of the paradox of Nebula shooting herself. The two "Nebulae" are independent from one another once the time lines are split. Each with her own future yet to be written.
One thing I don't get is that apparently past Gamorra lives through the snap and doesn't return to her timeline, staying in 2023 instead. I suppose that's also possible because her fate was no longer the same as the "original" Gamorra's. It kinda makes my brain hurt...
Anyway, love the show and I honestly kinda want that tangly quantum timeline on a t-shirt because reasons.
The way I understood it was that the universes split when Nebula's apparently cloud based memory was seen by the "younger" Nebula. So the Thanos, Nebula and Gamora from that universe traveled into the universe of our Avengers, and as a result of 2/3 dying, and Gamora not returning to her own timeline, there is now a timeline created where those three are gone.
So, theoretically, they may have incidentally saved 2 timelines from the snap, one we observed where they used the infinity stones to bring the snapped people back to their "present", and a completely different one where Thanos was removed from the timeline altogether and never used the infinity stones in the first place.
@@EdslilNeko They definitely did, unless it's all recursive and another Thanos crew appear in that timeline/reality from another one ..
@@skepticalbadger I mean the other possibility would I guess be that when Cap returned the infinity stone to that timeline, he could have maybe stopped that series of events for that thread? That would mean that the timeline that Thanos, Gamora, and Nebula came from collapsed after he went back... but I think my first guess is more likely.
One of the problems with going back in time in the "many worlds" quantum system is that we have observed the timeline already. Observing a particle locks their position in space and time, but before that they are linked by Heisenbergs uncertainty principle. Surely, then, going back and "reliving" this time COULDN'T change anything or wouldn't allow you to live in an alternate time, or take an alternate path outside of the quantum realm? Inside the quatum realm you could almost allow the selection of alternate paths to time travel, since at this level everything is waves and not observed on the macro level.
Could you re-observe the same particle in spacetime and get a different outcome? You might be going back, but the place you're going back to is now happening for the first time, so any possible thing could happen. What you are observing now, after time traveling, won't have a cause-and-effect correlation with your timeline, but it will still affect the future of this new deviant timeline.
Am I just missing, or misunderstanding, something?
@@user-wt2dz5bx5m I honestly have no idea. I know that observing a particle in, say, a double slit experiment essentially changes a wave into a particle, but then if you were to go back and observe the *exact same* particle is that locked to the one position it was in previously because it's now locked in? Or is it essentially been undone and can be redone in any way? Really hard to tell. And now my brain hurts
@@SciencewithSteph simple! You are not changing anything because all events happen. If you was to travel backwards in time to observe an event you had already observed you would actually be traveling to an alternate route in which you had observed twice. The choice is to stay on this route or return to your original route in which your past would still be intact exactly as you remember it, the other route you could then live out a new memory. But you can not change how your original route plays out.
This video is lovely and you clearly worked so hard to get this out. I hope they're paying you a lot for all this
This has already been said, but yeah you misspoke and said 2012-2012 instead of 2019-2012 or something similar.
No I spoke correctly. Wormholes are weird like that -- kH
I paused the video looking for some explanation to this here.
Do you think you can go a little more in depth on footnotes please?
You mentioned a pretty beautiful idea I think: That all possible timelines are playing out next to us but we only experience the most likely one. Another way of putting that would be saying that we are living out the world which 'won' the constant lottery of quantum mechanics.
But there's also an infinite number of you's who 'won' way better realities than you (person reading this right now) did.
Anyone notice that when he said most of the movie has been impressive he moves Incredible Hulk out the way
He means Box Office wise. Incredible Hulk is better than a good chunk of the MCU movies.
Now all I have to do is put this technology in a hot tub.
*have to turn back RIGHT NOW*
Me: presses fast forwards
0:28 why no love for The Incredible Hulk? 😭
batboy209 cuz it was a shit movie
@@mrstation6905 better than Dark World
Wasn't all that bad. It was better than dark world and the Eric bana hulk film.
knightghost 17 fair point
@@mrstation6905 better than Captain Marvel
Infinity Tube? Well who said that scientists doesn't know how to name things?
sounds cool for sure
it is the year 2394:
scientist one: "I have a meeting 4 years ago, want to go to the Infinity Tube™ with me?"
scientist two: "Yeah sure, I forgot to turn my gas out 4 years ago and it burned down my house.. might as well fix that haha"
passing by grad student: "umm"
When he said “Stark bucks”, I almost spit out my coffee 😂
Possible time-travel plothole:
I get how they could travel to the past, based on this, but wouldn’t then travelling back to the future just take you to the future of the new timeline you created?
If not and the future time travel allows you to pick the timeline you go to, is the implication that Old cap didn’t just grow old but grew old and then shifted timelines back to the main line? How?!
As explained in the video, think of the quantum realm as the many worlds interpretation, every possibility exists, so theyre able to just take the same "tunnel" they took to get in each of the time stops backwards.
The old cap is a problem however, because it does seem captain america lived through the 'time heist' timeline as opposed to the main timeline. The time heist timeline also has Loki alive, and Thanos and his minions vanished after 2014.
I will not stand for the open disrespect of the Norton Hulk film. It was the Hulk's best on screen interpretation.
Robert Lunarr Lowest performing Marvel movie, which is why I pushed it out when I said “some are the most successful of all time.” No disrespect to Norton obv - kH
Reason Hulk movies were always low performing was because the movies spend 90% of the time trying to avoid showing the Hulk.
Ikr I wish they would have continued with Norton and his Hulk. That hulk could do all the moves. Gamma stomping and clapping on future enemies is what I wanted to see. Not no professor hulk bs, everyone wanted the rematch not a celebrity taking selfies.
@@becausescience I blame Norton for the fall of the franchise. I got what you were doing,no worries.
All I'm going to say is "Sea Cucumbers..."
NICE! THAT EXPLAINING COVERS ABOUT THE TIME CONES & STUFF CONCEPT CLEARLY AWESOME.
Kyle: time travel explained!
*Endgame Rat* :am I a joke to you?
Wait, wasn't that a rabbit? I'm confused...
@@mariozenarju6461 why being meta is tight. Super easy barely an inconvenience.
Hey Kyle love the show. why didn't iron man use the jump gate from guardians of the Galaxy to create a wormhole too time travel theoretically?
Hey, Kyle, great (and ambitious) video!! This may be a nitpicky correction, but I think you may have missed the Avengers' plan, which may change your explanation of the closed timeline curve.
If you remember, in the movie, they weren't planning on stopping the snap from happening (for reasons that you pretty much exactly outlined). They would most certainly create a paradox if they tried this, but what they instead tried to do was to gather the stones, reverse the effects of the snap, and put the stones back so Thanos' original snap still happens. In doing this, they would avoid the inevitability of the snappening and keep all of the original events of the franchise on its worldline.
...given, it didn't exactly work out that way in the movie, but had it gone perfectly, their original plan would have been consistent with the closed timeline curve model.
Love the show!!!
I was under the impression they didn't undo it because stark wanted to keep his daughter. If they went back and prevented it, they'd be in an alternate reality. No paradox. (Also stark doing that to keep his daughter makes him the biggest asshole in the universe. Think of all the people that died in planes and cars during the snap, families torn apart, loved ones moving on only to have their dead spouses returned... None of that was undone)
@@ewan121 not just his daughter though but the millions other sons and daughters that were born sense. While some of the snapped ppl died upon being brought back (imagine reappearing inbetween two newly constructed building floors or inside of a bystander) they atleast got to exist. Reversing the snap would be removing millions from ever existing period.
Was THIS timeline an alternative timeline?
Didn't Thanos go back in time by using the time stone because Scarlet Witch destroyed the mind stone on vision's head??
He reversed time on just the mind stone not everything
Hey Kyle, love the show- So basically from what you say between 14:12-15-32 could be translated to-
"People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually - from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff."
- The Tenth Doctor(Doctor Who, "Blink")
Also, given all the possible timelines, there MUST be one where Ant-man tries to be an Ass-assin, but it doesn't work, so that's not the movie we got to see.
I only know one thing
In any point of space-time, of ant give reality, this is the best show to have ever existed
I just wanna know something. This has been keeping me up at night since I’ve seen it.
So...I saw the Sonic trailer and one of the parts that stuck out to me-other than how Sonic actually looked- was when James Marsden’s character was falling for the top of a building and Sonic through a ring and “teleported” him to what seems like a barn. The part that is “keeping me up” isn’t the science of the ring to be able to transport someone instantly through space, but if that would work to save him from the actually fall. When James’ character is falling gravity is working with him to accelerate to the ground, up until he reaches terminal velocity. That is if the building is tall enough to be able to allow him to reach terminal velocity. For the sake of this let’s say he does reach terminal velocity. I also assume the rings works like a portal gun as well. That being said, to go from falling with gravity working with you to moving horizontally with gravity working against you, would the impact of hitting the barn kill him or would he even reach the barn door before gravity came into play and would that impact of falling on the ground kill him as well. I’m assuming that going from falling to “moving” he would keep the same acceleration up on till gravity becomes a factor in the horizontal direction.
I’m curios, anyone know?
I’m sorry if there are any type-os present 😅
This was pretty cool! I love time travel stuff! Im curious to see if you think the new travel of steins;gate is accurate or even possible,
Easier explanation “It’s Jeremy Beremy”.
This just sounds like a bunch of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey...
stuff
So in general *Nerdy Thin guy Thor reviews Endgame* should have been the title
Hello Kyle! I really loved the episode and I appreciate the tremendous amount of work and research you do in every single video! You are the best connection there is between science and pop culture!
That being said, I do have a small amount of nitpicking I want to do and it is addressed to the image of the black whole. The Event horizon which bends your personal Light cone, and from which light cannot escape should be focused on the center of the image of the black whole and should not extend all the way to the boundaries where hot matter is visible.
I feel like this is more of a nitpicking than a correction, but once a beautiful TH-camr said "technically correct is the best kind of correct!".
Never stop making Because Science and I am very excited about Because Space.
Actually from a non linear, non subjective point of view, it’s more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly… stuff
Exactly! Doooooweeeeeooooo
13:54 ...including quite a few through the offices of PBS SpaceTime.
Tony Man VS Iron Stark
Who shall win?
@F
*Howard Potts
The Russo Brothers: “We spoke with real physicists.”
Kyle: “Hold my time paradox.”
I feel smarter and stupider at the same time. Good stuff Kyle. The movie is still a terrific bookend to the MCU’s first 11 years. I enjoyed it very much.
By the way, do you just keep putting “quantum” in front of everything Kyle?
ha, I understood that reference. ^_^
Well done! Thanks for the entertaining education in quantum theory!
I had problems wrapping my head around physics in university, how on God's green earth do I wrap my head around this????
By spending 10 hours talking to a quantum physicist
@@Razor-gx2dq HAHHAHAHAHA
You wrap it around so much that you end up going backwards through time and space.
I can't tell you how many times my mind broke during this video.
Wats a mind
Same
*Welcome to Lovecraft and the Outer Gods?*
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