That makes good sense. In my opinion, you dont wait for the right oportunity. You try to create the oportunity. Or alternatively, deal as best you can with whatever stuation that is presented. If you want to land a wrist lock... then headbutting the target in the face, or kicking his leg out, or shoulder bumping him off balance... seem like much better ways to make him compliant. Rather than only going for the wrist, and hoping for the best. And that wont take several years to learn. I think a more common problem is that people get to caught up on the idea of a single technique, making or breaking everything. Rather than think of ways to put that particular technique into an effective context.
To perform a wristlock you have to quickly slap the palm in a sideways motion while simultaneously trapping the hand briefly while rotating it and step to the side, with your opponent being rotated in the direction where he's facing away from you before you perform the lock. Anybody whose experienced at working the doors or being a bouncer knows this.
What I really really really really like about this channel, at 52 years old is how he focuses on where are we going with this fight. Let's get the heck out of here. Is there anybody who has ever been caught up in a fight that they never initiated but they won the fight and then later got charged with assault? Maybe the 10 days in jail? Because they didn't understand the concept of Duty to retreat versus the castle doctrine or whatever? There are some really good martial arts channels on the TH-cam but this is the only guy who consistently says learn to get out do you strike and then run like hell and that's what I really like about this channel no power trip just get out of danger zone. Thanks uploader!
Wristlocks are mainly for retaining control of your weapon when you've got a baton or a knife and he grabs it (or your wrist) to stop your attacks. Also, you should drop your elbow to initiate the movement.
1. the technique is wrong. 2. The more rigid and strong the opponent grip is the easier it is to perform wrist lock. 3. you have to use your whole body, not just move your hands.
Also In most situations I'm not employing the lock to illicit a pain compliance but to destroy the wrist. However I've used them effectively for pain compliance
Your lovely teacher , smart ,very good energy always base , soft dance like wing chu, you lovely well spoke very technical, well done for your classes here .🙏
50* years training and fighting, I like 80 percent of your vids, but on this one when you have your locks 'right' they are one of your best assets AND YES THEY WORK but you have to know them at a muscle memory level
I really appreciate how this channel's self defense tips and techniques centers around the idea that the person who might be using them will be an average everyday guy instead of just assuming that we all are some kind of martial arts experts.
**You don't roll towards the fingers, ever (under, in this situation), you'd roll to the thumb. In that situation I would roll "over" the top of his arm towards his thumb, then capture his wrist. "Receive the gift."
I generally like your stuff. And you're somewhat right by saying it takes practice. But the reason the technique isn't working is because you're resisting his power. It's all about blending with the others energy to overcome it. I don't like putting more distance for him to hit you again.
@Selfdefensegoat I'm actually a life practitioner of Martial Arts as a whole. Although I have 35 years of Aikido / Aikijitsu/Jujitsu under my belt, I also practice Silat, Kali, and Kung Fu a plenty. The laws of controlling the situation don't change though. Proper distance for the right technique without allowing him to use his techniques is what I like.
It works in some cases. But you have to punch atracker to soften him and make lock worth doing it. That's why it's so hard for cops to arrest someone without peoer spray, taser, battons and putting knee on their head when they throw them down.
Average thug/ bad guy isnt trained. They will not know to squeeze hard or whatever easy but specific defense exist. They will move their hand back, to the side, try to wrangle it out instead. They might eventually resort to that squeeze, but your lock should take place in that time already. Also ideally wrist lock is set up, transitioned into or transitions to another technique...etc. if your enemy learns what you are doing.
Kotegaeshi is included in the standard police arrest technique in Japan, and I often see it being used in news videos, so I disagree with your opinion. On earth what is the difference between saying ``If you know the opponent will do a wrist lock, you can put strength in your arm'' and ``If you know that the punch is coming, you should guard it''? ? I think the fact that you've put more effort into your arms means that you're stuck on the spot, and in terms of Judo/Jujitsu it's easier to deal with. I know that among the simple self-defense techniques taught in the United States, kotegaeshi is not a technique that uses the whole body, but is taught as a convenient magic technique that can be performed by simply twisting the wrist.
You are doing it wrong when you said "all eric has to do." Don't move your hands to his side. Pull your hand towards you and pivot your rear leg. Doing that fast will throw him off balance
I love your stuff brother, but on this I must disagree. To say wrist locks don’t work in general I think is a misnomer. They’re fantastic for escapes it’s just a matter of applying them at the appropriate times. when somebody grabs your wrist for instance, you don’t wanna give them a chance to secure it. If to tight the loosening technique. The moment your grabbed, you immediately trap and circle around. Or just circle hand left or right with appropriate steps . I’d love to discuss this with you wanna DM because there’s much more to it than just it works or it doesn’t work. I wish we were closer. I’d like to discuss in person. Anyway. Your self defense is tight. Pragmatic
@@Selfdefensegoat ya did. Still a fan of the wrist releases. They are some so simple, if you use a knuckle or a (corner of phone) . Also it would be sweet to see cell phones defense. Always in your hand, hurts like a bitch anywhere you strike(pressure pts) and it’s always in your hand I’ve been teaching that as long as cell phones been around. Try it. I would be curious to hear your opinion after trying it. ✌️
@@primaco44094 cool idea but my goal is to not have a phone in your hand. Spreading situational awareness has always been my focus and if you get attacked with your phone in your hand, I believe you have already started behind in the situation. Thanks for watching.
@@Selfdefensegoat Your missing my point, that’s ok I believe your not picking up what I’m laying down. I’ve been instructing the phone defense for awhile and it’s solid better than keys or any other legal implements. The point is it’s usually always in someone’s hand and ready to go . Also as far as situational awareness, I tell my people that whe being out and about you can use the phone for checking your six. If you shwant you can set phone up to respond to”I’m being followed” and you can set it to automatically call whoever you designate (cop, parents) and it will start a video recording and take pics to send back to home base. Anyway I guess you didn’t bother to try, but I can understand you probably always get inundated with suggestions. So I’ll just keep it to myself and my students. Won’t bug you with this stuff any further. ✌️ps my instructions to anybody is to “run “ as fast as you can. Any technique is for when you can’t!
@@primaco44094 not bugging at all. It’s good to play with things. I wonder what size of cell phone your using because trying to punch someone with an iPhone pro would be hard to hold yet alone punch with for some body types.
Resistance is reactionary, which is why we often train to trick them by pull first so they pull back then you go with the momentum. But just like he says, they are extremely difficult to pull off in a fight.
I am an 8th Dan in a Modern Samurai Jujutsu. I strictly educate self defense not only ground work. I have an integrated martial art system including Wing Chun. Silat and Modern Arnis .30 years of hard training .
Thank you for telling the intermet you are a little twig who got mad his pseudo martial arts does not work in real life, you know... The irl whcih you so severely try to seclude yourself from
This video is informative, but it’s saying nothing. I don’t think videos like this should be put out, but this is exactly what I need to see. I can’t learn from this. Thanks for teaching me a valuable lesson with this video. 😂😂😂 How you felt reading this is how I felt watching the vid. So contradictory. 😂😂
Like any technique if well practiced and proper execution wrist locks are very effective. Also good luck hitting or grabbing me with your wrist fubared
Martial arts is great to look at in movies however the real test is will it work ? I worked with some of the most hardened criminals in the penal systems. Believe me when I tell you, all that whirling and twirling don't mean a thing.
in real self defense wrist locks are Too precise , why , because in a real situation you will only have basic motor skills . no time for fancy blocks etc. self defense means disable opponent momentarily to be able to get away fast.
The reason wrist techniques seem appealing is because, on paper, the wrist is an easily accessible target and its also a relatively weak point on the human body. This weakness is the very reason that most people are really good at protecting their wrists the same way most people are instinctively good at protecting their eyes. Aside from that there isn’t much correct in this video. Some techniques take longer to achieve “mean time to sufficiency”. Throws take longer to master and have a smaller window of opportunity than most ground techniques. Likewise wrist techniques, have a small window of opportunity but the payoff makes developing this skill worth the investment with the caveat that a) your self-defense needs can wait 2-4 years and b) you participate in a sport where wrist licks are allowed which leaves Tomiki Aikido (the competitive branch) and a growing number of BJJ gyms. Source: 25 years Judo+Tomiki (Sport) Aikido; 15 years many others; many successful uses of tekubi waza in BJJ.
This is a not a direct reply to ^edge-lord; merely a clarification for anyone else who may stumble on this tread. Tomiki competition consists of both tanto randri AND hand to hand. But of all the horrible, terrible, no good ways to learn knife defense, sport application (as with all Martial Arts practice) produces the best i.e. least-worst results. … also it’s really fun.
U forgot to distract him first u can’t use chin na or any kind locking technique if it’s telegraphable maybe Leopard fist the ribs or poke the guys eyes, kick the nuts something to get his eyes off of what coming
Uh huh… Well, chokes and arm bars don’t work that great without the proper setup either, and how about hip throws? You ever try tossing someone with even a little bit of wrestling or judo training or that’s just a lot bigger and stronger than you are that doesn’t want to be thrown? Not so easy. So, I guess hip throws are kinda bullshit too. Come to think of it, it’s actually pretty hard to land a good punch on someone with even a modicum of decent fight training. Apparently, punches don’t work either.
You are lying. I myself did the test and squeezed the instructor's wrist very hard and with a lot of resistance and he was still able to do the technique.
Wow, just squeeze hard huh. That is the bullshit here if anything. Any wrestler will know it's hard to keep a wrist grip. It's far easier to break it than it is to hold it.
I like this guy but he's giving mixed messages... First they are b.s. then he loves what they did for him, then they work against full resistance in bjj but when his opponent squeezes down he can't move????
The reason you can't make them work is because your not trained properly. To make locks work you need to learn flows. If you don't believe wrsit locks work go punch Tuhon Ray Dionaldo
No they don't. U did not take out. d attacker. U took him down but not OUT. He will continue to resist & once u r done together will continue to attack.
The way I was taught is to knock (punch) before you lock
I’m guessing most people don’t know this. He said it works after years of training, which the average person doesn’t have for self defense.
That makes good sense.
In my opinion, you dont wait for the right oportunity. You try to create the oportunity. Or alternatively, deal as best you can with whatever stuation that is presented.
If you want to land a wrist lock... then headbutting the target in the face, or kicking his leg out, or shoulder bumping him off balance... seem like much better ways to make him compliant.
Rather than only going for the wrist, and hoping for the best.
And that wont take several years to learn.
I think a more common problem is that people get to caught up on the idea of a single technique, making or breaking everything.
Rather than think of ways to put that particular technique into an effective context.
To perform a wristlock you have to quickly slap the palm in a sideways motion while simultaneously trapping the hand briefly while rotating it and step to the side, with your opponent being rotated in the direction where he's facing away from you before you perform the lock. Anybody whose experienced at working the doors or being a bouncer knows this.
Good priority
Before the wrist lock you have to punch the oponent as a distraction
What I really really really really like about this channel, at 52 years old is how he focuses on where are we going with this fight. Let's get the heck out of here. Is there anybody who has ever been caught up in a fight that they never initiated but they won the fight and then later got charged with assault? Maybe the 10 days in jail? Because they didn't understand the concept of Duty to retreat versus the castle doctrine or whatever? There are some really good martial arts channels on the TH-cam but this is the only guy who consistently says learn to get out do you strike and then run like hell and that's what I really like about this channel no power trip just get out of danger zone. Thanks uploader!
Thanks so much for watching. Make sure to check out both channels for more content.
Wristlocks are mainly for retaining control of your weapon when you've got a baton or a knife and he grabs it (or your wrist) to stop your attacks. Also, you should drop your elbow to initiate the movement.
Wristlocks are powerful when done in proper way.
i will not agree, there are ways to execute wrist lock effectively even the attacker resist
They ones the police put on me worked. I can still feel them to this day.
Usually I agree with him, but not with this wrist locks definitely work . But you have to do them with real pressure and force
Right there got to be a technique and a strategic point when to do it, maybe when the opponent is more staggered then anything else
It’s good to disagree. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I’m so used to seeing the classic Billy Robinson style Double Wrist-lock
its a great tool for bouncers, and anybody dealing with drunks
As a former bouncer, agreed
1. the technique is wrong.
2. The more rigid and strong the opponent grip is the easier it is to perform wrist lock.
3. you have to use your whole body, not just move your hands.
If Eric was able to stop him from that angle, homie just doesn't understand the what-for.
Exactly
Also In most situations I'm not employing the lock to illicit a pain compliance but to destroy the wrist. However I've used them effectively for pain compliance
You say wrist locks are bullshit then you say they can work with years of training.
You give the most unbiased and comprehensive lessons out there, can't find any better. Keep it up brother!
wrist locks work but you MUST soften your attacker first with a kick or punch
You shouldn’t do them like john wick or hollywood ninja style, but when on the ground it definitely disables the opp
Absolutely, WHEN used with proper technique at the right times
Right time right place
I love this guy man. Thanks for your videos!
You must have massive hand strength for them to work
Looks like they work pretty well to me.
My daughter is the queen of escaping locks. She taught me alot when we spar.
To free yourself is to free your enemy.
Dude - your honesty is a breath of fresh air.
You have earned a new subscriber.
Go Go BUDO brothers, love your channel ❤🎉
Every Akito guy is crying
Your lovely teacher , smart ,very good energy always base , soft dance like wing chu, you lovely well spoke very technical, well done for your classes here .🙏
Tell Pete the Greek that wrist locks don't work 😁
They work for certain situations. You can easily break fingers or take advantage of human anatomy.
@@Fernando-jy6gq A finger lock isn’t a wrist lock
@@FreshUF obviously not
Lol😂
It is always the tallest who is smacking the other... will we ever see it the other way round?
50* years training and fighting, I like 80 percent of your vids, but on this one when you have your locks 'right' they are one of your best assets AND YES THEY WORK but you have to know them at a muscle memory level
They work period..spontaneous movement.thumb angles bend elbow move..they work.they grab you go for the soft areas eyes nose throat r
I really appreciate how this channel's self defense tips and techniques centers around the idea that the person who might be using them will be an average everyday guy instead of just assuming that we all are some kind of martial arts experts.
**You don't roll towards the fingers, ever (under, in this situation), you'd roll to the thumb. In that situation I would roll "over" the top of his arm towards his thumb, then capture his wrist. "Receive the gift."
I generally like your stuff. And you're somewhat right by saying it takes practice. But the reason the technique isn't working is because you're resisting his power. It's all about blending with the others energy to overcome it. I don't like putting more distance for him to hit you again.
The idea is to move away from the initial strike. You must be an Aikido or Hapkido guy.
@Selfdefensegoat I'm actually a life practitioner of Martial Arts as a whole. Although I have 35 years of Aikido / Aikijitsu/Jujitsu under my belt, I also practice Silat, Kali, and Kung Fu a plenty. The laws of controlling the situation don't change though. Proper distance for the right technique without allowing him to use his techniques is what I like.
@@jamescarter4005 awesome thanks for keeping the art alive. Respect and thanks
I enjoy your work..
It works in some cases. But you have to punch atracker to soften him and make lock worth doing it. That's why it's so hard for cops to arrest someone without peoer spray, taser, battons and putting knee on their head when they throw them down.
Average thug/ bad guy isnt trained. They will not know to squeeze hard or whatever easy but specific defense exist. They will move their hand back, to the side, try to wrangle it out instead. They might eventually resort to that squeeze, but your lock should take place in that time already.
Also ideally wrist lock is set up, transitioned into or transitions to another technique...etc. if your enemy learns what you are doing.
Bro hit the snap crackle and pop
If you can't apply a wrist lock in a fight then you're not a good fighter
Not a good wristlocker I agree. Fighting is so much more than just wrist locks.
Once i was able to pull wrist lock during sparing from clinch and surprise was on mine side, but I was bigger guy.
Its good if the attacker dosent know
Kotegaeshi is included in the standard police arrest technique in Japan, and I often see it being used in news videos, so I disagree with your opinion. On earth what is the difference between saying ``If you know the opponent will do a wrist lock, you can put strength in your arm'' and ``If you know that the punch is coming, you should guard it''? ? I think the fact that you've put more effort into your arms means that you're stuck on the spot, and in terms of Judo/Jujitsu it's easier to deal with. I know that among the simple self-defense techniques taught in the United States, kotegaeshi is not a technique that uses the whole body, but is taught as a convenient magic technique that can be performed by simply twisting the wrist.
Get offline and strike and distract and get close with clinch them apply with a throw. Not easy to do all at once but possible
I thought him tapping was his wrist braking 😭😭
His wrist is quite sore
Why you gotta slap him and throw him on the ground like that 😂
So he gets him off balance and he spins.
Haha Erik sacrifices so much for you guys
You can squeeze hard as you wish in your Class, but someone is going to Escape. Just Fundamental Theorem of MA Philosophy. -Kant
Love this
Nice master
You are doing it wrong when you said "all eric has to do." Don't move your hands to his side. Pull your hand towards you and pivot your rear leg. Doing that fast will throw him off balance
I have a question,
Would you kill If needed. And what should you do if that Happens?
I love your stuff brother, but on this I must disagree. To say wrist locks don’t work in general I think is a misnomer. They’re fantastic for escapes it’s just a matter of applying them at the appropriate times. when somebody grabs your wrist for instance, you don’t wanna give them a chance to secure it. If to tight the loosening technique. The moment your grabbed, you immediately trap and circle around. Or just circle hand left or right with appropriate steps . I’d love to discuss this with you wanna DM because there’s much more to it than just it works or it doesn’t work. I wish we were closer. I’d like to discuss in person. Anyway. Your self defense is tight. Pragmatic
I actually used those words. Right time and place.
@@Selfdefensegoat ya did. Still a fan of the wrist releases. They are some so simple, if you use a knuckle or a (corner of phone) .
Also it would be sweet to see cell phones defense. Always in your hand, hurts like a bitch anywhere you strike(pressure pts) and it’s always in your hand I’ve been teaching that as long as cell phones been around. Try it. I would be curious to hear your opinion after trying it. ✌️
@@primaco44094 cool idea but my goal is to not have a phone in your hand. Spreading situational awareness has always been my focus and if you get attacked with your phone in your hand, I believe you have already started behind in the situation. Thanks for watching.
@@Selfdefensegoat Your missing my point, that’s ok I believe your not picking up what I’m laying down. I’ve been instructing the phone defense for awhile and it’s solid better than keys or any other legal implements. The point is it’s usually always in someone’s hand and ready to go . Also as far as situational awareness, I tell my people that whe being out and about you can use the phone for checking your six. If you shwant you can set phone up to respond to”I’m being followed” and you can set it to automatically call whoever you designate (cop, parents) and it will start a video recording and take pics to send back to home base. Anyway I guess you didn’t bother to try, but I can understand you probably always get inundated with suggestions. So I’ll just keep it to myself and my students. Won’t bug you with this stuff any further. ✌️ps my instructions to anybody is to “run “ as fast as you can. Any technique is for when you can’t!
@@primaco44094 not bugging at all. It’s good to play with things. I wonder what size of cell phone your using because trying to punch someone with an iPhone pro would be hard to hold yet alone punch with for some body types.
i was gonna say, this is all i do at my bjj gym 😂
Haha wrist lock for life
If you let him know what you're going to do, then yea, he'll resist. 🙄
So speed of application is most important to you. Would you say you need a lot of
Training to make that happen?
Resistance is reactionary, which is why we often train to trick them by pull first so they pull back then you go with the momentum.
But just like he says, they are extremely difficult to pull off in a fight.
@@mato2677 agreed for sure.
I am an 8th Dan in a Modern Samurai Jujutsu. I strictly educate self defense not only ground work. I have an integrated martial art system including Wing Chun. Silat and Modern Arnis .30 years of hard training .
Thank you for telling the intermet you are a little twig who got mad his pseudo martial arts does not work in real life, you know... The irl whcih you so severely try to seclude yourself from
Steven Segal will disagree 🤣🤣🤣
For sure he will
This video is informative, but it’s saying nothing. I don’t think videos like this should be put out, but this is exactly what I need to see. I can’t learn from this. Thanks for teaching me a valuable lesson with this video. 😂😂😂 How you felt reading this is how I felt watching the vid. So contradictory. 😂😂
Haha too funny. Check out the long form video for more detailed explanation.
They work if you hit the person first then apply they wrist lock or control... Sensei chess
Another simple technique you can do, clench your fist because it is much harder to bend the wrist when it's closed
Hit hit hit then lock
The Good Thing Is Just To Get away as fast as I Can, Worst Scenario Is If you Get Cornered.
Just Dont Try It.
Smart advice
Can you tell us how they do work and what to do if it doesn’t?
Wrist locks are not an opening technique!!!!! They are either a finishing/controlling stage of a confrontation but never an opening attack
Like any technique if well practiced and proper execution wrist locks are very effective. Also good luck hitting or grabbing me with your wrist fubared
Aaaahhh
You need more training. Wrist locks are mainly to break.
Don't get the difference between working and not-working wrist locks. Demonstrations in the beginning are all working and then...?
There great when used right. But most people aren't trained so it's a bit easier. I still love to throw a punch instead.
Martial arts is great to look at in movies however the real test is will it work ?
I worked with some of the most hardened criminals in the penal systems. Believe me when I tell you, all that whirling and twirling don't mean a thing.
in real self defense wrist locks are Too precise , why , because in a real situation you will only have basic motor skills . no time for fancy blocks etc. self defense means disable opponent momentarily to be able to get away fast.
The reason wrist techniques seem appealing is because, on paper, the wrist is an easily accessible target and its also a relatively weak point on the human body. This weakness is the very reason that most people are really good at protecting their wrists the same way most people are instinctively good at protecting their eyes. Aside from that there isn’t much correct in this video. Some techniques take longer to achieve “mean time to sufficiency”. Throws take longer to master and have a smaller window of opportunity than most ground techniques. Likewise wrist techniques, have a small window of opportunity but the payoff makes developing this skill worth the investment with the caveat that a) your self-defense needs can wait 2-4 years and b) you participate in a sport where wrist licks are allowed which leaves Tomiki Aikido (the competitive branch) and a growing number of BJJ gyms. Source: 25 years Judo+Tomiki (Sport) Aikido; 15 years many others; many successful uses of tekubi waza in BJJ.
tanto competition is stupid though
This is a not a direct reply to ^edge-lord; merely a clarification for anyone else who may stumble on this tread. Tomiki competition consists of both tanto randri AND hand to hand. But of all the horrible, terrible, no good ways to learn knife defense, sport application (as with all Martial Arts practice) produces the best i.e. least-worst results. … also it’s really fun.
aikido, każdy rzut kończy się dzwignią, każda dzwignia konczy sie rzutem
U forgot to distract him first u can’t use chin na or any kind locking technique if it’s telegraphable maybe Leopard fist the ribs or poke the guys eyes, kick the nuts something to get his eyes off of what coming
So glad u mentioned this.
Man, better say your wristlocks are bullshit.
Uh huh… Well, chokes and arm bars don’t work that great without the proper setup either, and how about hip throws? You ever try tossing someone with even a little bit of wrestling or judo training or that’s just a lot bigger and stronger than you are that doesn’t want to be thrown? Not so easy. So, I guess hip throws are kinda bullshit too. Come to think of it, it’s actually pretty hard to land a good punch on someone with even a modicum of decent fight training. Apparently, punches don’t work either.
In una situazione reale questo non capita mai…
🧢
You are lying. I myself did the test and squeezed the instructor's wrist very hard and with a lot of resistance and he was still able to do the technique.
Wow, just squeeze hard huh. That is the bullshit here if anything. Any wrestler will know it's hard to keep a wrist grip. It's far easier to break it than it is to hold it.
I like this guy but he's giving mixed messages... First they are b.s. then he loves what they did for him, then they work against full resistance in bjj but when his opponent squeezes down he can't move????
No...they're not. "there is validity". Contradict yourself much?
The reason you can't make them work is because your not trained properly. To make locks work you need to learn flows.
If you don't believe wrsit locks work go punch Tuhon Ray Dionaldo
Wrist locks work perfectly against old men that are trying to calm you down at a bar. Send them flying through a window! /sarcasm
What is wiht your hands? Are you painting those? God don't like that... To paint your body... Really
I don't like that...
There are no wrist locks in old style karate, only wrist breaks.
100%
No they don't. U did not take out. d attacker. U took him down but not OUT. He will continue to resist & once u r done together will continue to attack.