Iain McGilchrist on Civilization and the Divided Mind

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  • Author, scholar, and psychiatrist Iain McGilchrist speaks with John Bell of The Conciliators Guild about human societies, past and present. They discuss how the quality of a civilization’s culture and ideas - its tendency to flourish or self-destruct - reflects its deeply-ingrained habits of thinking.
    Iain McGilchrist, a medical doctor and former Oxford literary scholar, is the author of several landmark works about the impact of the brain hemispheres on human life and culture.
    His best known are 'The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World', published in 2012, and his two-volume magnum opus 'The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World,' released in 2021.
    To listen William 'Patrick' Ophuls' Q&A on 'Why Civilizations Fail':
    • Patrick (William) Ophu...
    To watch 'The Rise and Fall of Civilizations' by Ivan Tyrrell:
    • The Rise and Fall of C...
    0:00:00 - Hubris
    0:01:36 - Introduction
    0:04:35 - Brain hemisphere differences
    0:12:16 - The world of the left hemisphere
    0:23:28 - The left hemisphere's war on life
    0:30:02 - Bureaucratic totalitarianism
    0:38:49 - Civilizations in balance
    0:49:28 - Circularity and the coincidence of opposites
    0:56:39 - The Enlightenment and the Romantics
    1:05:20 - A return to the sacred
    1:11:41 - Civilizational suicide
    1:17:56 - Outro

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  • @mmnuances
    @mmnuances หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    This is the first I have heard of Patrick (William) Ophuls, "Immoderate Greatness: Why Civilizations Fail". Thank you for mentioning it. I have it ordered. I am a long time student of Dr. McGilchrist and am at peace now with the clear, lucid insight that global civilization is collapsing at an ever increasing rate. Hard to see the timing but the magnitude of damage to the web of life on planet Earth and the subsequent human suffering is impossible to comprehend. The best we can do is lay the groundwork for a new world to come which has at its foundation, the most lucid, potent, wisdom of humankind, derived from eons of repeated rise and decline, and exemplified by teachers like Ian McGilchrist. For all those who have "awakened", try to connect with the "others" and feed the countercurrent of love, relationship, wisdom and amplification of that which is alive and connected with all life in the Universe; within us and between us. Good luck in these trying times....

    • @drawingmomentum
      @drawingmomentum หลายเดือนก่อน

      We will be the "Neanderthals".

    • @theconciliatorsguild
      @theconciliatorsguild  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Thanks Joseph. You might have seen it already, but we have an interview wth Ophuls on this channel if that interests.

    • @mandyshanks2327
      @mandyshanks2327 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Please interview Rupert Sheldrake. He is brilliant.

    • @mmnuances
      @mmnuances หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theconciliatorsguild I have subscribed to your You Tube channel and noticed that interview which I found to be one of the most lucid, potent and enlightening interviews pertaining to the fate of mankind. What is really interesting is the examination of the conditioned structures in one's psyche that arose from being brought up in a collapsing, global civilization and to then modulate and balance awareness and attention to discover the natural endowment of an awakened state. In other words, utilizing the psychological determinants of the metacrisis to be the ultimate teacher of wisdom... I hope to stay in touch and contribute to your "Work". Thank you and all the best!

    • @jennysteves
      @jennysteves หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I love your reply. ♥️
      ‘Immoderate Greatness’ is a brief book with an unforgettable message. He’s also fascinating to listen to. Several of his interviews are on TH-cam. An especially good one can be found on Nate Hagens’ ‘Great Simplification’ podcast.

  • @SueFerreira75
    @SueFerreira75 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Let's admit it - in reality as a species, we fall far short of the intelligent species we like to think we are.

    • @xsarchitect
      @xsarchitect 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Understatement

    • @OnyxStudios720p
      @OnyxStudios720p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      To whose or what standard is that statement really justified? I’d say we possess and are capable of a far more intricate level of useful intelligence than any other living species on earth. To say we fall short of anything approximating a god-like intelligence of all things is quite absurd and an unreasonable standard to hold human beings. After all we are still animals…

  • @Boulos-cb2un
    @Boulos-cb2un หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    If the world has more people like Ian…the world would be a better place

    • @tingtingshiney1477
      @tingtingshiney1477 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🏵

    • @Boulos-cb2un
      @Boulos-cb2un หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tingtingshiney1477 what does that symbol mean?

    • @tingtingshiney1477
      @tingtingshiney1477 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Boulos-cb2un a gift of a flower , for your thought of the world being a better place if we had more Ian's.

    • @Boulos-cb2un
      @Boulos-cb2un 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tingtingshiney1477 Thank you…

    • @user-ze8zo5uv2s
      @user-ze8zo5uv2s 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think what you meant to say is; "If the world has more people like Ian…the world would be a boring place" All he says is that human is a self distracting animal. No sh*t Sherlock!

  • @bunjidogg
    @bunjidogg 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I wish one of these philosophers would come up with a theory on how to get humans to stop slaughtering each other. It would be most helpful.

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you not human?

    • @TheGringoSalado
      @TheGringoSalado 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Love God
      Love Neighbor
      (Seems right brained)
      We should not throw the ideal out because people fall short of the ideal.
      We can all do better. Bottom up starts not with us forcing others to adopt the ideal, but rather adopting the ideal ourselves.

    • @shughy1
      @shughy1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Any good religion practiced correctly respects human life, the problem is humans are not that disciplined

    • @tmga4922
      @tmga4922 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, that’s easy to be said. I spent my life and my story (big trauma) wondering about how I could make a difference and attribute in and to the arts. Studying all fields to be up to date. I never became successful. Too much doubt, too much obsessed with society and the observation of it. I come from a tv background (family). Diving from 12 years of age teached me about nature and its dangers also quite good.
      To make a very long story short; I’ve researched visual history and technology so thoroughly post 9/11 that I found a series of axioms which when placed in a specific order it unearths the invention of fellow Dutchie Jan Sloot and his controversial invention Sloot Digital Coding System. It’s basically a copy machine for your screen based on a screen (an eye). Now the thing is since it’s made of light (color) and is practically virtual, it redesigns our understanding of compression and the physical understanding of sharing. It violates Shannon as we count in copying in stead of duplicating. Where his invention was about the display (eye) and not the computer itself. In stead of on or off and binary thinking it forces us to , like base 60/64, think in on and more on. Like the sun. This way of sharing/streaming will eventually lead to a greater acceptation of our possibilities resulting in a more comprehensive execution of responsibility towards our planet and each other. I can’t do the math exactly but got the riddle of what JS did quite precisely, I can’t math well enough or do algebraic coding good enough to what he did with his circuits. Hence I believe not one man can make a difference on its own unless he or she is helped by others. And that’s the hardest part, find people who don’t judge and are willing to think in failures.... Sincerely from 1985

    • @museumofwoman6633
      @museumofwoman6633 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Ancient matriarchies, egalitarian societies of women and men leading together, were, as scholar Heide Goettner-Abendroth explains in her well-documented book Societies of Peace, has many answers. But even the brilliant men never seem to think to ask the wisewomen.

  • @kieran-obrien
    @kieran-obrien หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    A brilliant and insightful talk from Iain - as always. I've been following McGilchrist for a while now and have read all his books, and for the first time, I found myself disagreeing with him on a fundamental (and very important) point. @37:17 he suggests our desire towards bureaucracy is driven by hubris, a desire to be like the Gods. From my experience, I see that's not the case at all. It seems to me that our drive towards bureaucracy, our drive towards control, power - and to prioritise our lower values, are not out of a desire for power, but rather to avoid suffering/anxiety. We create complex systems to avoid accountability and responsibility, we follow our self-destructive path not because we want to but because we don’t know how to integrate suffering/anxiety/chaos. We no longer value vulnerability, wisdom, and we tend to see suffering as something to be avoided at all costs. When we explore indigenous and ancient cultures they almost universally practiced initiation rites, where the young had to learn - usually in a sacred space - that suffering was necessary. Only then could they pass into adulthood. In our culture we do the opposite, where almost all marketing messages promise to take away suffering (we just need to buy the latest upgrade, goods or services) and the technocratic paradigm where technology will make our lives easier. The result is that we live in culture that can no longer transcend to our higher stages of self. That’s the deep underlying problem here. The left hemisphere does not know what to do with suffering - so it exports it elsewhere, while the right hemisphere knows how to integrate and transcend it. That’s why wisdom literature and traditions always deal with the collision of opposites between love and suffering (see Christianity as a perfect example of this).
    I would be interested to hear other people’s thoughts on this.
    I cover this thinking in a lot more detail on my master storytelling training programme - ministory.co.uk/toolkit/

    • @leonardrobichaud5919
      @leonardrobichaud5919 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Interesting observations! On the whole, what I understood as his explanation for bureaucracy is the excessive need for control and the delusional belief that if only we could devise the perfect procedure/process, all would be well. The dominant worldview of the left hemisphere is based upon imposing our will through control and manipulation rather than trying to understand and harmonize with our environment (and ourselves). Ultimately this excessive need for control is based on fear. It is interesting to note that wisdom traditions invariably work predominantly within the 'right hemisphere' mode: e.g. acceptance/allowance vs rigid control, compassion vs. judgement/condemnation etc. All those traits usually associated with the 'ego' or 'false self' are those of the left hemisphere mode.

    • @haraldtheyounger5504
      @haraldtheyounger5504 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      All attempts to avoid suffering/anxiety are a quest for power, for control, surely that is obvious. Bureaucracy is control; stemming from arrogance, which is ultimately fear. To those of a bureaucratic disposition, their order is the only form of worthy order and therefore an end to chaos, to ignorance, to suffering, to anxiety. That sense of order is so easily upset, and imbalance soon sees the facade crumble. It's a bit like those who put on an accent to hide their past, they'll imitate what is thought of as polite or posh. When things begin to get a bit stressful, their original accent will break through. Same with those who put on an act of being good, their nastiness breaks through, usually in a passive aggressive manner, calls for brutal punishments, etc.

    • @Druids234
      @Druids234 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The hubris of those in power is everywhere: we are told that a man can put on a dress and become a woman, and if we don't agree, we're transphobic. We are forced to wear pronoun badges against our will. We''re told that mass immigration is good and if it changes our way of life and we don't want that, we're racists and we're ignored. We're forced to accept medical treatments without evidence, and undergo lockdowns and wear face masks that have no basis in science. Small businesses have to account to bureaucrats for who they hire as employees, with extensive DEI reports. Even commenting on knife crime in one's street can lead to being charged with a hate crime, with the police visiting to 'check our thinking'. The list goes on with governement interference in every aspect of our cultural and economic life.

    • @DavidAKZ
      @DavidAKZ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oppenheimer , self proclaimed destroyer of world avoiding suffering ? He didn't get another nights sleep once he had that realisation.

    • @maritaberndt6200
      @maritaberndt6200 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good point. But not mutually exclusive. Bureaucracy as control - as fear of suffering/ nature/ chaos/ the unpredictable?

  • @chrisstein5128
    @chrisstein5128 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Interesting & fitting choice, “window washer”…as in helping one self or others to see the things outside clearly.

  • @itzhakbentov6572
    @itzhakbentov6572 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “Context is everything “
    -thank you Ian

  • @marilynwarbis7224
    @marilynwarbis7224 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Having lived for some years with a man who was dominated entirely by the left-brain hemisphere, and who rose to a powerful position in society, and having been smashed by his way of dominating into the mental home for some weeks - I can vouch for every word and concept of this video. Every single thing Mr. McGilchrist says about the left-brain hemisphere was my own experience of my then partner, and the left hemisphere on its own is indeed an attack on life itself. This goes against everyone but against women in particular as we are biologically programmed to bring forth life and uphold and nurture it.

  • @TheGritherr
    @TheGritherr หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    read the thumbnail and listen to a couple words and I know, this is the place to be on a Saturday night 👍

  • @annakortukov2845
    @annakortukov2845 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I am reading Gad Saad's The parasitic mind and was pleasantly surprised to see two distinct scholars talking about parasites concept in human mind here as well. The master and his emissary is next in my reading list. Thanks for the great conversation 🤍

  • @normaodenthal8009
    @normaodenthal8009 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Listening to Ian McGilchrist is always interesting and enlightening.
    His story about the pernicious procedures to obtain payment reminded me of the frustration of having to complete an online admissions form prior to surgery, which asked for underlying conditions. The problem was that the system, after numerous attempts, would not accept my underlying condition, so in the end, I had to give up and leave it off.
    Technology increasingly prevents us from thinking outside the box.
    Life does not fit into tidy little boxes.

  • @RichardRoach-jg1hp
    @RichardRoach-jg1hp หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It's not what you have, it's what you give.
    It's not the life you live, it's the life you choose

  • @jerrylyns7331
    @jerrylyns7331 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    So if im scanning for threats while focused on money, i might not realize my need for money in the first place is the threat 👀

    • @allen5455
      @allen5455 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What makes anyone a communist?

    • @richardhall5489
      @richardhall5489 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@allen5455I don't understand what you are asking. Could you explain your question. Why did you mention communism?

    • @allen5455
      @allen5455 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@richardhall5489 The poster stated, "...need for money." In an idealized communist world, "the need for money" is done away with. Visit the U.N. ...nearly all the member nations are Marxist. Marxism and communism are synonymous.

  • @peterfrance702
    @peterfrance702 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It is a sobering thought to realise we are witnessing a the fall of a great civilisation. Both humbling and glorious.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, Dr. Iian McGilchrist and John Bell, another illuminating discussion. I appreciate Dr. Iian McGilchrist's books and all those he speaks with in various fields of fields and backgrounds of education
    🙏❤️🌎🌿🕊🎵🎶🎵.

  • @allourvice
    @allourvice หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Infinite regress comes to mind, in regards to how the left-hemisphere both regards the world and operates within it, at least in the most general sense(s).
    Fascinating talk. Thank you both!

  • @shanti9040
    @shanti9040 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank You for this brilliant and very interesting conversation...so true....and spot on...👏👏👏💐🙏

  • @bonim5180
    @bonim5180 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had no bounderies growing up,no structure,now i get why i am the way i am and how i seem to have to work way harder than others to just be in this world.
    I wonder if ian can help with screeching high pitched tinnitus in my right ear,he seems to know so much about our brains,thought maybe he could explain it to me,no one else has been able to as they do not make sense to me.🥺💕

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As one who knows not yet how to pray - I observe that the unique connection of prayer with the Divine is the first consideration for blessed commission of beneficent thoughts into their representation in effective actions..

  • @khaledadams4329
    @khaledadams4329 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I really enjoyed listening to this, thank you.

  • @ConsciousnessWatch
    @ConsciousnessWatch หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the wisdom. Delightful interview!

  • @naomidarlington1066
    @naomidarlington1066 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you both so much!

  • @Brinn-yw4dy
    @Brinn-yw4dy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's so much more interesting than the divided brain, is the metabrain or hyperbrain. The "virtual" brain if you will. Being both holographic in nature, and 4th dimensional. In each half of the brain there's a virtual version of the other half, overlaying with it. This in effect creates two whole brains, one physical and one virtual. The cerebellum reflects the oneness of the two while unifying the various sense pereptions of each at the same time as reflecting and facilitating the harmonization of the sprit with the flesh as it animates the physical form.

  • @lindarodriguez5806
    @lindarodriguez5806 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I refuse to become a specialist! I take pride in being a generalist, because I see the broad picture from this perspective.

  • @marktyrrell8892
    @marktyrrell8892 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fascinating, thank you.

  • @michaeldavidson1909
    @michaeldavidson1909 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    'The less you know, the more you think you know'. That covers a lot of what's going on. 'Freedom comes as the outcome of self discipline.

  • @cyberpunkworld
    @cyberpunkworld 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So there's a huge difference between content creators and content conveyors. From here to the sky :)

  • @bigwheeliejumper
    @bigwheeliejumper 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thankyou iain and john...my two hemispheres feel alot smarter.

  • @sararamsden9549
    @sararamsden9549 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Marvellous discussion. Thank you

  • @leonardrobichaud5919
    @leonardrobichaud5919 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Great stuff!

  • @Rebecca0010
    @Rebecca0010 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This topic reaches me in a way where it starts to make sense how people are in this situation of communication limbo.

  • @angelbaybee3700
    @angelbaybee3700 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you both, that did me the world of good. sending love!

  • @MilesDaffin
    @MilesDaffin 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great conversation. Thanks both.
    Is the Machine mind an emergent property of a mass of people thinking/behaving/being the same way, like a murmuration of starlings, which appears like a single organism but is composed of individual birds following simple rules and animated by a desire to survive? The Machine then becomes, like the murmuration, a kind of entity with a mind of it's own that individuals within it are subservient to? Something like that :-)

    • @user-iu4wh1zs6t
      @user-iu4wh1zs6t 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Seems like you get it. Another way of describing machine mind is the opposite of mindfulness.

  • @user-cs5up9qx8s
    @user-cs5up9qx8s 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Outstanding ❤

  • @Robertsmallbone
    @Robertsmallbone 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wonderful to listen to such English erudite communication.

  • @eddiediesel9035
    @eddiediesel9035 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You summed it up for me in your intro. Brilliant.

  • @geoffreydawson5430
    @geoffreydawson5430 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I might be reaching, but, Frank Stella's new sculptures (paintings) are shown at Jeffrey Deitch Gallery. Frank was a linear minimalist, now? This came to mind when listening between 49:30 and 56:28.

  • @MS-od7je
    @MS-od7je หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “In a nutshell “ brings to mind a pun … or perhaps a fractal understanding.
    No doubt right and left hemisphere’s operate in the manner described herein.

  • @EmilBJJLuton
    @EmilBJJLuton 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tried to register as a supplier for Microsoft - it took 3 months to-ing and fro-ing and in the end, even the MS ppl did not really understand how to service this huge bureaucratic beast! Felt positively dystopian. A means becoming the ends is a sure sign of a diabolical order.

  • @KL0098
    @KL0098 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    37:10 There's a noticeable logical leap from a critique of too much bureaucracy (which most agree with) to inferring from our reliance on bureaucracy that we have a problem with "hubris". Whether McGilchrist likes it or not, all societies above the family/tribe level will develop bureaucracy, which is simply another name for administration or management. This is borne out by historians and anthropologists. McGilchrist is nearly suggesting that modern society is a sort of corruption of our pristine, natural state, though he doesn't have the courage like Rousseau to command us to behave like noble savages.
    Also, his claim that civilizations collapse because they "overreach" themselves by excessive bureaucracy that constrains creativity is a baseless claim. Ancient Athens lost its freedom to Sparta because of bad military strategies. The Aztec empire was doing fine until a mysterious plague ravaged it; as bad timing had it, that happened just before the Spaniards arrived, who found them weakened and easy to subjugate. (A current theory is that the plague was a disease brought by the Spaniards, which makes it more ironic). The causes for the fall of Rome are so many and so conflicting historians don't even agree on them: overreliance on slaves, political turmoil, barbarian invasions, depopulation, have all been suggested as causes, yet no historian's certain. McGilcghrist is just trying to pretend that he's discovered the solution to avoid civilizational collapse, as if each civilization weren't a different case in need of being studied on its own.

  • @SatSingh-mm4gg
    @SatSingh-mm4gg 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    From the Introduction, Seems like he agrees with Paulo Fieri about the bureaucratic sclerosis?

  • @ericT7
    @ericT7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you so much, John Bell and Iain McG for a very well-researched, thoughtful, well-presented, and fruitful conversation. Top marks!
    Regarding parasitic action: there's Colin Wilson's "The Mind Parasites", "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (etc), and the Native American "wetiko" mind virus.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Based Camp channel calls it "Urban monoculture" and has similar conclusions.

  • @dasteven10
    @dasteven10 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Attention is a moral act; it brings the world into being..."

  • @sorayagabriela128
    @sorayagabriela128 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please say the book by Patrick again, I could not get his last name or the fall title from the conversation. Thank you.

    • @theconciliatorsguild
      @theconciliatorsguild  หลายเดือนก่อน

      'Immoderate Greatness' by William ('Patrick') Ophuls. We have an interview with him on our channel, if it interests.

  • @hhwippedcream
    @hhwippedcream 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hubris marks the personal nullification of an unspoken agreement we've had with existence since we perceived it.
    The choice is there - choose to view your lifespan as the lifespan of the world or choose to view your life as a stepping stone or a footnote in a text chronicling a story you'd like to read and the story you'd want your biological or memetic relations and descendants to inherit and take part in.

  • @Brinn-yw4dy
    @Brinn-yw4dy 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It occurred to me once that the reason we find the remnants of great cities at the end of civilizations is because cities rise before civilizations fall. Cities *are* the grave yards of civilization. Building them then, is literally digging or own grave. On the level of why there is a rise and fall pattern to civilization, we're dealing with the consveration forces of the fractal, inertia and conservation of angular momentum, at every scale, including our neurosynaptic patterns and behaviours. There is something to be said for the fact that gravity is a consequence of thse forces at the level of the means being justified to the ends, the ends being your ultimate death, which outside of the interval of time we currently experience as the now, has already happened, while being your future, it's the universe's past, and the means will justify to it. This includes our synaptic patterns and behaviours. This explains irrationality and compulsivity, and addiction. Death spirals are quantum and deterministic. For individuals or civilizations.

  • @markrichter2053
    @markrichter2053 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Context is everything

  • @nektulosnewbie
    @nektulosnewbie หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "It's the desire to be like the gods"
    Hmmm, something familiar there, something similar said about a Fall in a certain Garden...

  • @yosivin1
    @yosivin1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would be very happy to see a conversation with Ken Wilber. Can be a very fruitful conversation.

  • @ericchristen2623
    @ericchristen2623 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yep, many have been saying that for decades. The Luddites made a very strong case.

  • @caroledrury1411
    @caroledrury1411 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Count me in on all of it!

  • @buddywoof1796
    @buddywoof1796 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    30:52 Rudolf Steiner identified this force as Ahriman

  • @nicolesawyer-jm6ir
    @nicolesawyer-jm6ir 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely on point once again. May the Mused awaken to the dance of the call of spiritual arms of a change of heart. Let’s bring forth joy and ordinary extraordinary miracles of a change of the collective mind. O’ those who are of the Light Angels of Light spiral down to the soul man and turn his feet right. - NS

  • @user-hn7my8ow4s
    @user-hn7my8ow4s 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent ...

  • @TheGringoSalado
    @TheGringoSalado 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    52:37 how does this relate to cities? Can there be too much Efficiency via agglomeration i.e. can there be too much city???

  • @tracykirchhoffer1708
    @tracykirchhoffer1708 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Such high quality content. Thank you. Please pay a little more attention to your visual quality - lighting and focus is fundamental in video production. Not difficult to achieve. Thank you.

  • @JCRobbinsGuitar
    @JCRobbinsGuitar 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This conversation omits the phenomenon of plasticity of brain function in the corpus colosseum. Phineas Gage story comes to mind.

  • @TimCCambridge
    @TimCCambridge หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    ~ Hi. Thanks.
    By designating heaven as " after ", " post " or beyond life, the left hemisphere gives itself reign over the present.

  • @shahlaahy4372
    @shahlaahy4372 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Indeed!❤

  • @jeremiahmullikin
    @jeremiahmullikin 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well I can tell you that STEM subjects do teach you how to think and so do the humanities. They both teach you how to think and feel more effectively.

    • @lecaprice2572
      @lecaprice2572 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      STEM without ethics accelerates destruction of the fragile remains of Nature

  • @Nina-sj1hj
    @Nina-sj1hj 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh my goodness. So much in this has given voice to some of my own private amateur analysis and reflection. The 'hermetically sealed left brain' and the push back that inevitably come from the real world, and how nature as Iain says, really hits home. This reflects one of the fundamental arguments that I have personally used, being part of the gender critical movement, to debate the insanity of young people wishing to believe that they can literally be the opposite sex. The belief that if they take puberty blockers, go on to hormones, and surgery if enacted upon will result in that physical body and it's actual sex being itself despite this belief. The actual nature of the body makes itself known The body hurts, the body plays out the destructive effects of cross sex hormones, vaginal atrophy, loss of sexual function, early onset menopause weeping scar tissue, bone density decline infertility etc - these are the things that often bring the fantasy, the magical thinker, who I would say is very left brain dominated, aided and abetted by a very left brain 'woke' culture cheering them on - back to the fullness of reality. There is a saying that I like - reality is very patient.
    No matter what map your left brain has plotted out , if it is very off kilter, faulty the reality you walk in will just do it's thing until you notice it and re-align with it!

  • @larryelder1860
    @larryelder1860 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This discussion in essence the Eastern philosophies of the Bhadavad Gita, Upanishads, the Buddhist Heart and Diamond sutras, and the Dao De Jing of Laozi Daoism. Different vocabularies, but same understandings.

  • @Mary-il6zz
    @Mary-il6zz 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So right

  • @BH-qs7vo
    @BH-qs7vo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great interview. Thanks!

  • @arkhitek2251
    @arkhitek2251 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As Above So Below, As Within So Without, As The Universe So The Soul. All Is Mind. The Lips Of Wisdom Are Closed, Except To The Ears Of Understanding…

  • @robtherub
    @robtherub 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    When he mentions competition evolution theory, mutual aid by Kropotkin is the contemporary antithesis to that darwinianism, just thought I'd mention
    When he mentions schematics I always put that in philosophy of physics terms, the reason British Empiricism beat German Idealism is that Empiricism demands that if reality contradicts theory then theory is wrong, ideological thinking tends to think reality is wrong when reality contradicts theory

  • @MrGunderfly
    @MrGunderfly 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    near real-time modeling, or, our reconstruction of reality through sensor fusion in a form that can be interpolated, extrapolated, played backward and forward, altered, extended, contracted.. it is the sophistication, accuracy, and speed of update of the model that describes "paying attention". an awareness of the model's existence is self-awaremenss, or theory of self. introspection is ones own inclusion in the global model. like pointing a camera at the tv screen it feeds. from McGilcrists' description of left and right lobes, dual lobe awareness is an sensor fusion innovation of detail integration feeding the near real time model. a better understanding of the models' formation and how it is observed could tell us allot about "the hard problem".

  • @markrowe5992
    @markrowe5992 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iain sounding metaphorically like William Burroughs. Bless.

  • @Boylieboyle
    @Boylieboyle 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fan-effing-tastic, that was.

  • @PRAR1966
    @PRAR1966 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙂

  • @mistermousterian
    @mistermousterian 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    MTG seems very left hemisphere dominant.

  • @Nina-sj1hj
    @Nina-sj1hj 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also with regard to the parasite conversation, Iain may be unaware of the recent book The Parasitic Mind by Gad Saad! On exactly this phenomenon!

  • @mikecharlytango330
    @mikecharlytango330 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Prem Rawat: the story of the two wolves.

  • @glenliesegang233
    @glenliesegang233 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Atheism cannot see its hubris, and how it rejects the non-dominant non-verbal hemisphere's wisdom. The dominant hemisphere believes the wisdom of what cannot be put into words, it's silence, as worthless.

  • @philnewton3096
    @philnewton3096 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Makibgc Music connects doesn't it?

  • @mazzreadstarot
    @mazzreadstarot 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It is incumbent on the individual and the collective to push every envelope.

  • @museumofwoman6633
    @museumofwoman6633 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Goddess spirituality, based in the ancient wisdom that “All Is One,” has all the answers brilliant men talking to each other dance around in these conversations … but never think to ask to speak with the Wisewomen, who are sitting quietly in the corner, waiting for you to invite us to the table.

    • @arkhitek2251
      @arkhitek2251 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All Is Mind, The lips of wisdom are closed, except to the ears of understanding…

  • @chadkline4268
    @chadkline4268 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Opening statement 🔟😆🍻

  • @markrichter2053
    @markrichter2053 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Attention is a moral act

  • @maryjones5710
    @maryjones5710 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We might end up with smart city enclaves and those living in the wild.
    I would like people to start deciding whether they want to live in AI controlled cities or whether we can come up with viable alternatives that don't require us to go back to the stone age.
    What does it look like to op out of smart cities, how do we organize ourselves.
    Can we find out who to even talk to about this.

    • @jillfryer6699
      @jillfryer6699 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your grandparents? Any survivors of the famous sixties?

    • @huwpatt3817
      @huwpatt3817 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Does this division recall 2 u
      the Brave New World?

  • @benbahara1974
    @benbahara1974 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    before Iain....after Iain....before darwin....after darwin....before fire....after fire.....before wheel....after wheel

  • @NineInchTyrone
    @NineInchTyrone 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why have a guest if you are going to go on and on

  • @UnhingedBecauseLucid
    @UnhingedBecauseLucid 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:08:12 - 1:08:28
    That's pretty much the last 50 years in a nutshell ...

  • @judithparker4608
    @judithparker4608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MERCIA....CELTO SAXON..CHAUCER SMELTING POT.....LICHFIELD DUDLEY WARWICK WORCESTER.....MERCHANT TRAIL !!!!

  • @maryjones5710
    @maryjones5710 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Real philosophers were never supposed to take money or positions of power.
    They were consulted to help where conflicts of interest came up, between people or cities.
    The govts, were made up of hundreds of people and it revolved and was refreshed constantly.
    Switzerland has a two year window for whoever is voted in, a very fast turnaround in Governance.
    People generally seemed to be very aware of themselves and their motivations.
    What we have never been told about ancient greek and other societies was the degree of substance ingestion, of various kinds to induce experiences. They had channellers, oracles, death cults, being reborn, NDE's, women were often force into the role, this lasted in places like Sciliy?, were a girl would be made into the family oracle, able to commune with ancestors.
    My point is, we see all these great things about ancient times but fail to realize just how weird it actually was. They had there magicians, Uri Gellers etc. They were very much like us and there is nothing new under the sun, it is an endless, tedious loop.
    If someone could please hack the operating system and change the options, I would be very grateful.

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    words are magic. they can bind. we are but lilliputians. reality is as gulliver. it awakes

  • @judithparker4608
    @judithparker4608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MERCIA.....WATLING STREET....THREE CROWNS...MINING SMELTING MANUFACTURING KINGDOM.... CELTO SAXON.....MERKETS

  • @judithparker4608
    @judithparker4608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ""MERCIA...FAIRLY OBVIOUS....3 CROWNS.....TELFORD BOULTON JEWELLERY..IRON ORE.MINING..SMELTING MANUFACTURING...KINGDOM........MERKAT"""

  • @judithparker4608
    @judithparker4608 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    MERCIA....3 CROWNS...CELTO SAXON SMELTING POT KINGDOM WATLING STREET......MERKAT CROSSES

  • @maryjones5710
    @maryjones5710 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Neal Hallinan you tube understands the body in an incredible way.
    I am very interested in consciousness studies but have never,
    ever heard anything as profoundly useful to being embodied, as this work.
    There was an original person who broke the running a mile in however many seconds, record
    and then gradually, many people could do it, someone broke the mold of what is possible.
    If the conservative left brain feels it is being pushed to accept unnecessary and dangerous to children ideas that lead to permanent bodily change, it may well revolt against that section of the social organism, that they feel is threatening their offspring. This will, at the fundamental level, create an uncrossable bridge, a moral wall, an enormous resentment and anger, a roused beast of righteous violence. There weren't many ways left to rouse such a beast, we had reached a point of letting people be their version of reality, we kind of stayed in our lanes quite well, until the children started to be targeted with weird interference in their reproductive ability. If someone wanted to rouse the beast,
    they used the only thing left to poke at. perhaps we are witnessing a somewhat controlled demolition, I mean, even the late departed Baron Jacob Rothchild is on video saying Neo Liberalism was so successful, with so little opposition, that there was nothing left to acquire, it had nowhere to go as a system and no one knew where to go from the glutted top.
    AI facilitated blockchain, digital, backed by real world assets is the next best thing.
    The end of the dollar reserve currency, etc, and population reduction, which was happening anyway but obviously not fast enough for some.

    • @jillfryer6699
      @jillfryer6699 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      interesting about the population reduction thing and which societies and countries seem to be hit with it first, not the most painfully overpopulated? why not? something else involved, of course, in the endless contexts of everything

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People with base values gain control.

  • @markkamp2255
    @markkamp2255 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It’s called “corporatocracy”, a method of control, that sometimes takes over grassroots organisations that have been built up on the idealism of small groups or communities of committed and idealistic individuals. Corporatocracy, takes over and lays claim to those same ideals and pays lip service to them, whilst exercising complete contractual control over each individual within the organisation. Except a corporation can never be a vehicle for spiritual and social values, because ideals and values have to be ensouled by the human being or human community. Corporatocracy, isn’t human, it’s a systemised method of control, it’s worse than capitalism ever was, yet it can be useful for solely utilitarian purposes.
    Corporatocracy is the antithesis of true community, (Scott Peck, a Different Drum) and a free spiritual life of the individual and the community

    • @Okradokra
      @Okradokra 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ie. Modern Christian churches, especially in the US se. The facade is cooperation and goodwill, the reality being prescriptive social control.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hard to see how you separate capitalism and corporatism. When capitalism is based on the company and specifically through a pirate root, and thus a piratic capitalism.

    • @jillfryer6699
      @jillfryer6699 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      beware the modern caring culturers, beware volunteerism absolutely, a particularly pernicious method of the corps.

    • @skylinefever
      @skylinefever 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Okradokra I often said that the way the megachurch people talk is like corporate motivational slogans, then sprinkle in God and Jesus.

  • @samilajami
    @samilajami 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hubris of A

  • @TheGringoSalado
    @TheGringoSalado 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    29:17 The Abolition of Man

  • @victorblack6995
    @victorblack6995 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can one ever hope to be a kind of Sinbad the Explorer (of the unknown).......without being willing to Sin Badly? That is to say, to cross boundaries of safety. Not the boundaries of other men per say, but of one's own boundaries. At which point does our safety transform into a prison? One grows restless bound to an eternal contemptible familiarity, no matter how secure this ritual sacrifice makes us feel.

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    we don't have to do this. nothing against technology, but resist mandatory technology

  • @anthonykenny1320
    @anthonykenny1320 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I tried to get a busking permit for the city of Melbourne
    Apart from the fact that I don’t see why a permit is required at all
    I used to walk into the customer service department and ask for one and they’d say no worries here’s you go and six walk out after five minutes with my permit
    Now I have to go ON LINE and of course I’ve got to have a user name and a password etc etc fucking etc
    Of course I have not been successful and have given up
    Why oh why does it have to be on line
    Is there a conspiracy to eradicate human contact in society and make everything as depersonalised and alienated as possible for the sake of gaining more control
    I’m glad I’m 76 and will be out of here before this insanity gains total control over every aspect of life unless of course Vladimir Putin decides to exterminate life on earth with a nuclear war before
    I’m not sure any more which scenario I prefer
    But this lecture sounds a bit like good guy versus bad guy and I think Ian McGilchrist is inadvertently dominated by his left hemisphere since he seems to be trying to construct a water tight ideology that is just too neat and polarised

  • @gregbrown5020
    @gregbrown5020 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Title doesn't reflect video because it is a command, a "left" hemisphere specialty

  • @markwrede8878
    @markwrede8878 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    To become the owner of property invokes paranoid delusion.

    • @larryprimeau5885
      @larryprimeau5885 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      that's crazy

    • @markwrede8878
      @markwrede8878 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@larryprimeau5885 To fret that some might have access to your property without payment is paranoid, and the social foundation of fear.

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Moloch