The WSOP has to hire a ton of temporary dealers every summer, and unfortunately many of them always have little to no experience. It is what it is. As a player it's extremely important to be aware of this and watch super carefully when you figure out you have one of these dealing your table, and sometimes you even need to help them out with rules.
Regarding the Men situation: The part everyone is missing is that when Men went all in, the 3rd guy asked for a count. The dealer counted. It should have been EXTREMELY simple to re-count after the hand (the dispute is prior to the next hand dealt). It should show 10m, 25m and 35m (beginning was 4.5, 25, 40, iirc). How did every floor/dealer/camera miss this???
He took his chips back because the largest pot was a chop. So most of his chips are coming back. This is 100% dealer fault, the pot with the J5 hand should’ve been taken care of prior to flop
@@MissDeal55 They typically don't take the side pot when all three players are all in - they wait to see who wins...it's easier to manage (typically). The floor messed it up even more by arbitrarily ruling that both players had to give 1 million to Smith. That not only didn't account for all the money Smith was shorted, but it penalized the player who almost certainly gave all 4.5 million. Dealer and floor messed up, yes, but so did Smith....you win a pot like this you make sure you get your chips before you celebrate. However - htf are there not casino cameras on every table?
To charge a ridiculous 18% rake in the Gladiators and on top of that not get the all-in stack transfers right is terrible. There should be more pushback from poker players over the high rake issue at the WSOP. Caesar's admit on the structure sheets that less than 1/3 of the rake goes towards the marginal costs of running the games. The rake is too high at every level. Let's say a table costs $30/h and can take $50/h. Total player time divided by number of players is maybe 8 hours. So 50 * 1/8 of a table * 8 hours = 50. We can be generous and say Wsop can double that! $100/person (varying with structure of course, Main Event maybe 2x, Super Turbo Bounty 0.5x) is a reasonable fee for a well run game. $5k - $400 rake $10k - $700 rake $25k - $1500 rake $100k - $3250 rake $250k - $1000 rake
If they charged the 18% rake on the $300 gladiator event, the WSOP raked over $1mil from that event alone. There is no way it costed them even $500,000 to run that event meaning that they easily doubled their money from that 1 event alone. Seems like they are trying to gouge the players.
Good luck DNegs! Love the vlog and appreciate it very much! 61 year old from Texas who’s been watching since you were literally “kid poker” lol! Beautiful new home, awesome wife and awesome puppy dogs! Never take it all for granted, and go get a bracelet! Remember your mom bringing you food in the early days of HSP, God rest her soul! God Bless!
If WSOP is Policing marked cards, why did they tell the player " we're not investigating" Poker supposedly has intelligent people playing and they allow cheating Wow
@32m bang on the nail exactly how the show should roll if your phones at the table it should be on the table and face and your only interaction with it should be to answer a phone call (ie if someone needs to get hold of you ie a real time emergency) of which if you do so you leave the table and hand is dead......
I roll my eyes a little bit when I hear someone say, "It's good for the game". I mean...we've had two events, one had slightly under and one had slightly over 20,000 entries. The game is already doing fine. Now if we could only have it so that Americans all around the country could play against a global player pool, but I guess that would make DraftKings sad or something.
I think the Men situation is easy to explain and COULD be innocent. Men was the BB, so he had 1M already in the pot. So, take Smith's 4.5, Foulty's 4.5 and the1.5 blinds, you have 10.5M for Brian Smith. Leaving him 3.5M short. The simplest explanation is Men took ALL his remaining chips back from the All In, without taking out the additional 3.5M for Smith. He may have done this on purpose...or he may have assumed the dealer already did it and that it was already in the pot. But I think simple logic could show how exactly Smith would be 3.5M short, and where it came from. At that point it wouldn't matter if it was on purpose or not...A Floor Manager with two brain cells to rub together should see the short came from Men's stack, even without cameras.
The story about Men getting caught with tournament chips in his hotel room is not real. It's been confirmed by a Foxwoods employee involved in the situation that he was asked to leave because they were cooking food in his room and set off the fire alarm. No chips were found. Not saying he's not shady, but that story isn't true.
It's an easy "solution" -- No Electronic Devices at the table. If you want to text your wife about how things are going, fold, step away from the table and text her. Then sit down again.
No....people will slowly quit the game if you ban phones that much. We want to GROW the game not shrink it cause some people are scared. No phone in hand when you have cards is simple enough and rule no solvers at table and getting caught checking a solve after a hand or whatever carries x penalty.
@@bryan-still-a-poker-player Why is stepping away from the table such a problem? It's not like I'm suggesting you have to go out into the parking lot to send a text... This reminds me of the _No Smoking_ debate we had a couple of decades ago where the naysayers were saying that if smoking was banned people would stop going to restaurants and bars -- then they banned smoking in restaurants and bars and do you know what happened? Business increased. People weren't being driven away by smokers anymore. You're worried about the people who will stop playing without their phones in hand at all times? What about all the people that don't play because it's boring when everybody is on their phone?
@fred_derf no it's just an annoyance to have to get up from the table everytime you want to check a score. I play cash for a living and I would just play exclusively online if I had to leave my seat to send a message to the babysitter, check a score, or whatever. Poker is very boring 95% of the time you are there. Recreational players want their phone more than I do and they make the poker world go. They need to be catered to. It's literally not hard to say "ok I'm in a hand, phone down till after". You guys can do whatever you want in the tourney world, I don't care. But cash games I do not care if a guy is trying to use wizard in-between hands. Most hands aren't going to function anything like this sims. Maybe at higher stakes 10/20+ but even then I am very skeptical how much it even helps the guy trying to study in-between hands. Obv a tourney is slightly different, looking up your 7bb shove range for next hand would be a big deal. You solve that with the "no solvers even in-between hands" and if caught you get x penalty where x gets more severe with each infraction until player is banned. Comparing smoking to phone usage is such a silly comparison. It's not like people are refusing to play because someone might blow text rings in their face.
Even if Men intentionally pulled all his chips back, the problem is still with the dealer. The short stack chips were in front of him. All the dealer has to do is count his chips, and then count the same amount 2 more times from the other 2 players. If Men pulled his chips back while the dealer is settling the pot then the dealer needs to grab 4.5 million from Men and slide them over to the short stack. This happens a lot. A dealer counting out the pot while others in the hand are pulling chips back. I've seen dealers quite often reach into another players chips or ask them to slide their chips forward so that additional chips can be taken to give to the winner.
@@erebus79 You have to prove intent. Players frequently pull back chips unintentionally that have yet to be settled. Regardless of his past, it is impossible to prove intent.
the dealer made a mistake no doubt. mistakes happens. that's why they have cameras.floor getting it wrong is way worse. more than anything it's a disgrace Men is allowed to play at sll.
@@300baud it's a private business. he's been cheating since the 80s. they can ban him if they want. they don't need to prove anything. when a guy who has been cheating for 30+ years does something like this it was obviously on purpose. when someone ethical who has played for years without issue does the same thing it's extremely likely it was an honest mistake.
I don't know Men, but poker news adamantly says that foxwoods did not kick him out for having chips in the room. That it was even another person staying there. He also had to bring his chips back that he had coming back to him. I'm not making any decisions, I'm just saying who can?
What everyone missed is the dealer asked the floor to come help count the chips.... both should be fired immediately.... Plus if the casino got cheated or overpaid someone you know the cameras would work perfectly
Terrance, they NEVER found chips in his Foxwoods hotel. The poker room manager at Foxwoods has clarified this already on Twitter via Chad Halloway. Men had given a friend his room who was cooking fish (lol) which caused the smoke alarm to go off. So they banned him bc his name was on the room but Men wasn’t occupying the room. No chips were found and this verified. It’s an old wives tale that was told in a whisper down the lane style by poker players and the story changed so many times throughout the years. Same thing happened w the story of the guy who paid the hooker w a 500 tournament chip and received change. I agree Men is a scummy angler but there has been no concrete proof of him actually cheating.
Foxwoods definitely made that statement... but booting someone for an in-room fish fry does not call their integrity and controls into question... and they have been called out for their corruption since they opened ---so
"I was logging in (or getting login information) for a friend" Hah! What's next, "my dog must have accidentally logged in"? They have to police this stuff in some way or people are going to be doing it more and more. One guy getting caught means there's probably dozens who didn't.
Why is no phone use while In.a hand so hard? It's simple. Just say that. Who's to say when someone is texting they aren't asking their buddy at the same table what they're holding? Who's to say they aren't asking a pro how to play the hand their in? Cmon. It's simple. Just have no phone use while in a hand period. Most card rooms I play in have this while in a tournament. This is the only way to enforce this stuff.
I really really really love this pod but that ear bleeding shit at the end of every single episode needs changed. Its 5x as loud, annoying, high pitched squealing basically. Please Ross, my ear drums are begging you to just turn it down if not find a new closing song altogether. Other than that one complaint, fantastic work through the years boys
Phones at the table should not be allowed. Not many folks are so important that they cannot wait until a break to catch up with business. (I worked for a Warren Buffet company for 17 years, and even I was able to exist going a few hours without checking emails and texts.) If they that important, maybe they have reasons to not be at the tables. As for vloggers, as long as everyone at the table gives the thumbs-up, then no worries, otherwise, taboo.
I agree. if you are that important that you can’t be away for a couple days then you shouldn’t be in a multi day game. if you can’t be away for 1 days you shouldn’t be in a 1 day. just wait till you retire. last wsop event I was sitting next next to guy who took a call every couple hands. you could tell he felt like he was so important and better then everyone else… I busted him, all I had to do was flop a boat and check. oldest truck in the book lmao. 🤣
How would chasing away electronic devices chase away players? Seems like a weak argument that cannot be measured. But players that are forced to pay 100% to the game and hand under would become better players. The players that are more interested in texting and watching basketball are not interested in winning. They are pretty much dead money. The Masters bans electronic devices and they are packed and will always be packed. There are no people dropping dead on the golf course because they cannot have their phone. They live just fine for a whole day without their electronic thumbs.
@@chriskoshinski oh I understand 👍 Phil Ivey has taught me that a large percentage of the poker population believes it is ok to cheat if the casino is the victim. Please feel free to use this comment section to justify Phil's cheating.
Terrence repeatedly says Men was caught with tourney chips in his room at Borgata. Doug Polk did a video that says that is not true. Will Terrence retract his accusation?
terrance stop stating misinformation, men has never been caught with tournament chips in his room! director of poker from foxwoods already clarified that situation, do ur research next time! smh
Cmon Dnegs, why share this???.negative narritive. I have a feeling this wouldntnt have been posted if you had gone further in the 50k buyin no limit. Keep the positivity especially on Fathers Day dude.
@glenperlman5661 dude what’s your deal providing spoilers when some of us are actually looking forward to the vlog to see how he does? It’s so inconsiderate.
The real story is that men out lasted 19k players at age 70. That has to be some kind of record. Cheating in poker, yawn. Get a real job. I appreciate when people try and cheat. Floor is at fault and the rest of the table is next. Then, maybe Men.
Dave you are acting out, looking for attention. I’m going to hope you get your life turned around and be happy. So many people dealing with mental health issues nowadays
@chriskoshinski I enjoy when top competition and top hustle collide. Poker players need to quit relying on everyone else to take care of things. Police yourselves. The table should have spoke up. Cowards.
This was solved a long time ago and it's very simple you can't fulfill your narcissistic behavior at the table It's not the place for that No phones or electronic devices at the table that eliminates 90% of your problems right there
The only issue is that people like Daniel will be involved in that and we will not have vlogs from him or other poker players like Ryan Depaulo. I agree that this would solve the problem but the WSOP wants the free attention and we want the videos as a consumer.
@@Killdroid96 you have a fair point but it would be good if there are options out there not every table needs to be an opportunity for someone to vlog their bullshit and maybe some people don't want to be a prop in their stupid fucking videos. If people had a choice no one would be playing at tables that allow the phones
@@erebus79 do you realize that most of the poker vlogs you watch are from a phone? You act like I’m 5 years old. I’m just pointing out why it’s a questionable business move for them to ban all phones.
@@danielthelion2677 I agree, there are generally too many vlogers but how can you look at certain people and say “nah you can’t vlog but we are allowing him”. There has to be a degree of fairness that I can see getting people riled up if it doesn’t go how they please.
As an experienced dealer this is 100% the dealers error. Its always pissed me off the incompetence that some of my colleagues do at their job.
The WSOP has to hire a ton of temporary dealers every summer, and unfortunately many of them always have little to no experience. It is what it is. As a player it's extremely important to be aware of this and watch super carefully when you figure out you have one of these dealing your table, and sometimes you even need to help them out with rules.
Regarding the Men situation: The part everyone is missing is that when Men went all in, the 3rd guy asked for a count. The dealer counted. It should have been EXTREMELY simple to re-count after the hand (the dispute is prior to the next hand dealt). It should show 10m, 25m and 35m (beginning was 4.5, 25, 40, iirc). How did every floor/dealer/camera miss this???
Another thing their missing is the dealer asked the floor to come help count
He took his chips back because the largest pot was a chop. So most of his chips are coming back. This is 100% dealer fault, the pot with the J5 hand should’ve been taken care of prior to flop
@@MissDeal55 it is the dealers responsibility to do all they can to ensure fairness, etc - but Min owns his vile cheating ways - he's trash.
Everyone knows WSOP dealers are the worst
@@MissDeal55 They typically don't take the side pot when all three players are all in - they wait to see who wins...it's easier to manage (typically). The floor messed it up even more by arbitrarily ruling that both players had to give 1 million to Smith. That not only didn't account for all the money Smith was shorted, but it penalized the player who almost certainly gave all 4.5 million. Dealer and floor messed up, yes, but so did Smith....you win a pot like this you make sure you get your chips before you celebrate. However - htf are there not casino cameras on every table?
When you have a 3 way all in you make the main pot right first.
This podcast has gotten much better (not that it was bad 😂) but it’s cool to see it growing and getting so entertaining
Thanks Anthony! In a sea of negativity it's nice to hear someone sharing the love :)
fantastic commentary and thanks to the hosts and the production team for a solid episode
Can we change Men nickname to Men “The Angle Master” Nguyen. I’m starting a petition
is dude who drugs his date and angle master - nah - he's a piece of shit - in terms of poker decorum - so is Men....
To charge a ridiculous 18% rake in the Gladiators and on top of that not get the all-in stack transfers right is terrible.
There should be more pushback from poker players over the high rake issue at the WSOP. Caesar's admit on the structure sheets that less than 1/3 of the rake goes towards the marginal costs of running the games. The rake is too high at every level. Let's say a table costs $30/h and can take $50/h. Total player time divided by number of players is maybe 8 hours. So 50 * 1/8 of a table * 8 hours = 50. We can be generous and say Wsop can double that! $100/person (varying with structure of course, Main Event maybe 2x, Super Turbo Bounty 0.5x) is a reasonable fee for a well run game.
$5k - $400 rake
$10k - $700 rake
$25k - $1500 rake
$100k - $3250 rake
$250k - $1000 rake
If they charged the 18% rake on the $300 gladiator event, the WSOP raked over $1mil from that event alone. There is no way it costed them even $500,000 to run that event meaning that they easily doubled their money from that 1 event alone. Seems like they are trying to gouge the players.
Off course there gouging the players
the thumbnail strategy lol
They should be able to look at the tape and determine starting stacks and ending stacks and see where the "error"
happened.
Good luck DNegs! Love the vlog and appreciate it very much! 61 year old from Texas who’s been watching since you were literally “kid poker” lol! Beautiful new home, awesome wife and awesome puppy dogs! Never take it all for granted, and go get a bracelet! Remember your mom bringing you food in the early days of HSP, God rest her soul! God Bless!
If WSOP is Policing marked cards, why did they tell the player " we're not investigating" Poker supposedly has intelligent people playing and they allow cheating Wow
Men "Chesters Master" Nguyen STRIKES AGAIN !!!
@32m bang on the nail exactly how the show should roll if your phones at the table it should be on the table and face and your only interaction with it should be to answer a phone call (ie if someone needs to get hold of you ie a real time emergency) of which if you do so you leave the table and hand is dead......
🚨 *Dnegs Can We Please Get An Interview With Philly Native And OG Veteran Johnny "World" Hennigan On His 1st WSOP Bracelet In A Bit?* 🚨
Enjoy the podcast. Always watch, interesting topic as always
I roll my eyes a little bit when I hear someone say, "It's good for the game". I mean...we've had two events, one had slightly under and one had slightly over 20,000 entries. The game is already doing fine. Now if we could only have it so that Americans all around the country could play against a global player pool, but I guess that would make DraftKings sad or something.
Foxwoods management says, "no chips in Mens room"
I think the Men situation is easy to explain and COULD be innocent. Men was the BB, so he had 1M already in the pot. So, take Smith's 4.5, Foulty's 4.5 and the1.5 blinds, you have 10.5M for Brian Smith. Leaving him 3.5M short. The simplest explanation is Men took ALL his remaining chips back from the All In, without taking out the additional 3.5M for Smith. He may have done this on purpose...or he may have assumed the dealer already did it and that it was already in the pot. But I think simple logic could show how exactly Smith would be 3.5M short, and where it came from. At that point it wouldn't matter if it was on purpose or not...A Floor Manager with two brain cells to rub together should see the short came from Men's stack, even without cameras.
Danny Wong got nervous and started drinking booze and that's when it was over.. You can't beat Phil Ivey drinking cocktails..
The story about Men getting caught with tournament chips in his hotel room is not real. It's been confirmed by a Foxwoods employee involved in the situation that he was asked to leave because they were cooking food in his room and set off the fire alarm. No chips were found.
Not saying he's not shady, but that story isn't true.
Yes, you can take phones away. Allow them to look at it in case someone gets an emergency call. That is it. No phone use at the table.
Oops. Thought I was clicking on Daniel's vlog
It's an easy "solution" -- No Electronic Devices at the table. If you want to text your wife about how things are going, fold, step away from the table and text her. Then sit down again.
No....people will slowly quit the game if you ban phones that much. We want to GROW the game not shrink it cause some people are scared. No phone in hand when you have cards is simple enough and rule no solvers at table and getting caught checking a solve after a hand or whatever carries x penalty.
@@bryan-still-a-poker-player Why is stepping away from the table such a problem? It's not like I'm suggesting you have to go out into the parking lot to send a text...
This reminds me of the _No Smoking_ debate we had a couple of decades ago where the naysayers were saying that if smoking was banned people would stop going to restaurants and bars -- then they banned smoking in restaurants and bars and do you know what happened? Business increased. People weren't being driven away by smokers anymore.
You're worried about the people who will stop playing without their phones in hand at all times? What about all the people that don't play because it's boring when everybody is on their phone?
@fred_derf no it's just an annoyance to have to get up from the table everytime you want to check a score. I play cash for a living and I would just play exclusively online if I had to leave my seat to send a message to the babysitter, check a score, or whatever. Poker is very boring 95% of the time you are there. Recreational players want their phone more than I do and they make the poker world go. They need to be catered to. It's literally not hard to say "ok I'm in a hand, phone down till after".
You guys can do whatever you want in the tourney world, I don't care. But cash games I do not care if a guy is trying to use wizard in-between hands. Most hands aren't going to function anything like this sims. Maybe at higher stakes 10/20+ but even then I am very skeptical how much it even helps the guy trying to study in-between hands. Obv a tourney is slightly different, looking up your 7bb shove range for next hand would be a big deal. You solve that with the "no solvers even in-between hands" and if caught you get x penalty where x gets more severe with each infraction until player is banned.
Comparing smoking to phone usage is such a silly comparison. It's not like people are refusing to play because someone might blow text rings in their face.
Even if Men intentionally pulled all his chips back, the problem is still with the dealer. The short stack chips were in front of him. All the dealer has to do is count his chips, and then count the same amount 2 more times from the other 2 players. If Men pulled his chips back while the dealer is settling the pot then the dealer needs to grab 4.5 million from Men and slide them over to the short stack. This happens a lot. A dealer counting out the pot while others in the hand are pulling chips back. I've seen dealers quite often reach into another players chips or ask them to slide their chips forward so that additional chips can be taken to give to the winner.
Yeah the problem is not with the cheater. Only in the gambling world are cheaters considered innocent.
@@erebus79 You have to prove intent. Players frequently pull back chips unintentionally that have yet to be settled. Regardless of his past, it is impossible to prove intent.
He’s a cheater. That’s the whole problem.
the dealer made a mistake no doubt. mistakes happens. that's why they have cameras.floor getting it wrong is way worse.
more than anything it's a disgrace Men is allowed to play at sll.
@@300baud it's a private business. he's been cheating since the 80s. they can ban him if they want. they don't need to prove anything.
when a guy who has been cheating for 30+ years does something like this it was obviously on purpose.
when someone ethical who has played for years without issue does the same thing it's extremely likely it was an honest mistake.
I don't know Men, but poker news adamantly says that foxwoods did not kick him out for having chips in the room. That it was even another person staying there. He also had to bring his chips back that he had coming back to him. I'm not making any decisions, I'm just saying who can?
Martin didn't mark cards stop
What everyone missed is the dealer asked the floor to come help count the chips.... both should be fired immediately.... Plus if the casino got cheated or overpaid someone you know the cameras would work perfectly
Terrance, they NEVER found chips in his Foxwoods hotel. The poker room manager at Foxwoods has clarified this already on Twitter via Chad Halloway.
Men had given a friend his room who was cooking fish (lol) which caused the smoke alarm to go off. So they banned him bc his name was on the room but Men wasn’t occupying the room. No chips were found and this verified. It’s an old wives tale that was told in a whisper down the lane style by poker players and the story changed so many times throughout the years. Same thing happened w the story of the guy who paid the hooker w a 500 tournament chip and received change.
I agree Men is a scummy angler but there has been no concrete proof of him actually cheating.
Foxwoods definitely made that statement... but booting someone for an in-room fish fry does not call their integrity and controls into question... and they have been called out for their corruption since they opened ---so
"I was logging in (or getting login information) for a friend"
Hah! What's next, "my dog must have accidentally logged in"? They have to police this stuff in some way or people are going to be doing it more and more. One guy getting caught means there's probably dozens who didn't.
U need to bring MJ back for a guest appearance!
You mean Michael Jordan cause Michael Jackson’s been dead for a while now .
@@michaelblankenau6598 no I mean Adam's old partner
Men should be banned from WSOP. He's done more than enough not to be allowed to play.
Why is no phone use while In.a hand so hard? It's simple. Just say that. Who's to say when someone is texting they aren't asking their buddy at the same table what they're holding? Who's to say they aren't asking a pro how to play the hand their in? Cmon. It's simple. Just have no phone use while in a hand period. Most card rooms I play in have this while in a tournament. This is the only way to enforce this stuff.
I really really really love this pod but that ear bleeding shit at the end of every single episode needs changed. Its 5x as loud, annoying, high pitched squealing basically. Please Ross, my ear drums are begging you to just turn it down if not find a new closing song altogether. Other than that one complaint, fantastic work through the years boys
Phones at the table should not be allowed. Not many folks are so important that they cannot wait until a break to catch up with business. (I worked for a Warren Buffet company for 17 years, and even I was able to exist going a few hours without checking emails and texts.)
If they that important, maybe they have reasons to not be at the tables.
As for vloggers, as long as everyone at the table gives the thumbs-up, then no worries, otherwise, taboo.
I agree. if you are that important that you can’t be away for a couple days then you shouldn’t be in a multi day game. if you can’t be away for 1 days you shouldn’t be in a 1 day. just wait till you retire. last wsop event I was sitting next next to guy who took a call every couple hands. you could tell he felt like he was so important and better then everyone else… I busted him, all I had to do was flop a boat and check. oldest truck in the book lmao. 🤣
How would chasing away electronic devices chase away players? Seems like a weak argument that cannot be measured. But players that are forced to pay 100% to the game and hand under would become better players. The players that are more interested in texting and watching basketball are not interested in winning. They are pretty much dead money. The Masters bans electronic devices and they are packed and will always be packed. There are no people dropping dead on the golf course because they cannot have their phone. They live just fine for a whole day without their electronic thumbs.
Phil Ivey admitted to cheating Borgota out of $10 million and the poker community celebrates him? Ya'll a bunch of weirdos.
Maybe look into that story and you'll understand.....
@@chriskoshinski oh I understand 👍
Phil Ivey has taught me that a large percentage of the poker population believes it is ok to cheat if the casino is the victim. Please feel free to use this comment section to justify Phil's cheating.
Phil ivey has no problem using an unfair advantage in gaming to exploit his opponents and shouldn't be celebrated. Pete Rose is more deserving.
@@ericcomp7032 The Pete Rose statement is quite the stretch.
Men's 7 bracelets are legit though, right?
Cheating the casino is not the same as cheating other poker players. The casino only cares about their interests. Duh.
OMG If that guy thinks DNEGS doesn't know what a double board bomb pot is then he's not qualified to be commenting about anything on this channel LOL
Let’s go baby !
Men will win the main event calling it now
Men The Malefactor
nonatop nagging
Terrence repeatedly says Men was caught with tourney chips in his room at Borgata. Doug Polk did a video that says that is not true. Will Terrence retract his accusation?
terrance stop stating misinformation, men has never been caught with tournament chips in his room! director of poker from foxwoods already clarified that situation, do ur research next time! smh
ego maniacs
proud to be first post.
Foxwoods has stated that was FALSE, they found no chips in his room.
Shame on you. Minh did not have chips in his hotel room. He was kicked out for cooking in the room.
Are you actively trying to make your viewers nauseous by jittering the photos?
Cmon Dnegs, why share this???.negative narritive. I have a feeling this wouldntnt have been posted if you had gone further in the 50k buyin no limit. Keep the positivity especially on Fathers Day dude.
One of Men's horses has entered the chat.
@glenperlman5661 dude what’s your deal providing spoilers when some of us are actually looking forward to the vlog to see how he does? It’s so inconsiderate.
The real story is that men out lasted 19k players at age 70. That has to be some kind of record. Cheating in poker, yawn. Get a real job. I appreciate when people try and cheat. Floor is at fault and the rest of the table is next. Then, maybe Men.
"I appreciate when people try and cheat" wow man.... shows what kind of person you are....
Dave you are acting out, looking for attention. I’m going to hope you get your life turned around and be happy. So many people dealing with mental health issues nowadays
@chriskoshinski I enjoy when top competition and top hustle collide. Poker players need to quit relying on everyone else to take care of things. Police yourselves. The table should have spoke up. Cowards.
This was solved a long time ago and it's very simple you can't fulfill your narcissistic behavior at the table It's not the place for that No phones or electronic devices at the table that eliminates 90% of your problems right there
The only issue is that people like Daniel will be involved in that and we will not have vlogs from him or other poker players like Ryan Depaulo. I agree that this would solve the problem but the WSOP wants the free attention and we want the videos as a consumer.
@@Killdroid96 you have a fair point but it would be good if there are options out there not every table needs to be an opportunity for someone to vlog their bullshit and maybe some people don't want to be a prop in their stupid fucking videos. If people had a choice no one would be playing at tables that allow the phones
@@Killdroid96 Have you heard of a regular camera, bud?
@@erebus79 do you realize that most of the poker vlogs you watch are from a phone? You act like I’m 5 years old. I’m just pointing out why it’s a questionable business move for them to ban all phones.
@@danielthelion2677 I agree, there are generally too many vlogers but how can you look at certain people and say “nah you can’t vlog but we are allowing him”. There has to be a degree of fairness that I can see getting people riled up if it doesn’t go how they please.