Not even that. You can hate people from your own racial and ethnic background(s), but these people are just ignorant and xenophobic. Chinese idols get so much unnecessary hate and "accidental" discrimination, as well as the HK and Taiwanese idols getting hate from Chinese fans and other people, too. Especially when there's a scandal, then these three particular groups are told to "go back to where you came from". Japanese idols, too. Honestly, people need to just realise how politically and historically biased they are, and work on improving themselves. Fans are discriminating against people even of different nationalities, when their problem is with that country's leadership, not the citizens.
@@someoldytaccount I’m not saying I stand for it but Chinese idols are known to get in a kpop group to boost their career in China. Many leave their groups because they’ll be A list celebrities with huge and expensive sponsorships even if they didn’t come from a top kpop group. Also whenever something happens in China like the whole Hong Kong dispute most if not all Chinese members of kpop groups went to either Weibo or Instagram to show solidarity to China. Korea and China has had a long hateful history hence why many knetizens see it as betrayal when groups leave their kpop group to get paid more in China
@@blacklungsanji3 I think what you talk about is the cyclical process Chinese idols see themselves gravitating towards, as their chances to gain celebrity status in South Korea are limited, due to their nationality/current citizenship. Idol programs are also more focused on catering to Korean trainees/idols, so this is why many Chinese idols go back to China to compete in programs. But I can kinda understand why fans think that way, but, at the end of the day, this is someone's life and career we're talking about, and lifelong fans will support someone, no matter what country or language they are promoting in. In saying all of this, and slightly off point, but to a certain extent, I think everyone would rather promote in their home country, but C-pop is largely unknown worldwide, and so going to South Korea to hopefully become a trainee presents much better opportunities for a career. And it's not like this is only relevant to Chinese idols, either. Idols who have ties to the USA or Canada usually go back there to promote after gaining a certain level of support. I see it like gaining experience for a job, which results in better future opportunities. Such opportunities don't happen without some sort of current sacrifice. Indeed, nothing in life happens without some form of sacrifice.
@@blacklungsanji3 This. The way Chinese celebs rush to support their government’s controversial agenda is ridiculous. And i find it uncomfortable how you can’t really tell an idol’s moral stand because they’re all compelled to support their government whether they want it or not. It’s just weird
The fact that Karina has done literally nothing wrong yet she is the one that get the most hate i just cant with toxic fans hating on her just to feel better about themselves
I'm surprised at the number of controversies held against them. They were just thrown on the hate wagon even before debut. It's disappointing. But it's obvious they didn't ask for problems with the public they're just like any other group trying to strive with success.
Every issue aespa has is due to their company, even their entry into the entertainment industry was too flashy, they made big promises and big words, making people look out for the girls mistakes, the girls have to be careful over everything, there are other 4th generation girls but why them??, considering they came out from a big company, their company is just worsening their problems, they first compared them to blackpink, forgetting how blackpink fandom read into everything, so they will look for anything to make people say they copied bp, be it a dress, tune, beat, drops, hair, and why is their plagiarism too much, i am not a big fan but i don't hate them as well, if their company pointed out how unique their group is and why we should look forward to them without playing mind games and using complicated words that would step on anyone's toe, just maybe people wouldnt be too over them looking into their mistakes, they were bringing something new no doubt
@@mae_ri You have a point, the company can do so much to represent them better. Their word versus the public is stronger and people will believe it. If they spoke up about more about ÆSPA's purpose and image and what makes them stand out as a group, they could be better received. Also if they cleared the lies and "controversies" about them they can keep a cleaner image too. But right now they're just being dragged by every little thing they do. 😔
@@Neha_the_great_sharma I was just talking about this with my friends the other day. Karina is the Jennie of her generation - receives so much hate for little to no reason😔
Actually Male Idols have a very dedicated fan base like they'll do anything to defend their Idols but on the other hand Female Idol's Fandom is like not that reliable they only will accuse and harras their own Idols first.
@@bluishbomi1604 100% truth. I am also a boy group stan and at the same time a girl group stan. I support all the groups and defend them but a very less gg stans are supportive like me. I don't know. Either they are misogynistic or I am a mad
@@bluishbomi1604 I don't agree with you. Fans of girl groups are not any less dedicated than boy group fans, it's just that the public and knetizens are often higly misogynist and therefore girl groups get hated on for simply existing. The fan base is loyal and dedicated, but there isn't much we can do when basically everyone else is against us.
not really tho sometimes from wht ik... if they get TOOO MUCH hate (like out of control) they company will make them disband and i dont want them to disband :(
aespa are going through a lot but I just want them to know that M.Y like me are going to stick with them and support them both during their good times and their hard times
reminds me of Girls' Generations earlier days and what they have been through such as the black ocean. aespa will be the princesses of k-pop, trust me on that! they will be the top girl group in the future and might share the spot with 2-3 more, but I am so sure of it that they will be even more succesful than they already are as of now.
@@fairywonder3419 No it isn’t but she apologised for that & I’m sure SM told her what she could & what she couldn’t say & I’m just glad SM let her apologise bc they sweep EVERYTHING under the rug & that’s it unless you are black you can continue to have this conversation bc it’s only you can forgive her the rest of us it’s not our place too & if you’re not black or if you’re pretending to be black to have this conversation then 1. That’s just as bad (& so is sending death threats btw) & 2. Shut the fuck up!
@Lana del Rey needs to release her unreleased songs Yet the person I was responding too still didn't get it so I explained it to them again & stressed the point that now she apoligised after she messed up unless you're black you can't continue talking about it & I also said those who pretend their black just to continue talking about it (cuz you know theres pleanty of those out their too) are just as bad as that.
@@bellereinette2938 it’s the fact you’re trying to help dig racist behavior… 🚶🏽♀️ 1. 2.!~ Like that’s going to do s- 💀🙏🏽 I’m just wondering how long has she been saying *the word behind cameras?- 😞🙄😶
@@mileree1234 I'm not mad lol so you think her apology was a lie?? Girl you better check out the whole K Industry a lot of idol never apologized for what they did but Giselle is not like them she know her fault and she apologized it.wdym apology can be a lie??
@@mileree1234 yk what mouthing N word dosen't mean she is racist.that word was include in the song play at the back so she accidentally sang that word.she already said that she has no intention to hurt ppl so stfu again
@@lov9137 I do know what they did, but the hatred they got is more than should have been, I'm a Muslim myself and I'm still kinda mad at that incident, but instead of hating them with all my heart I should just stop being a fan, or hate them but not to the point of mentioning them in every convo related to K-POP....
I'll admit, I find Aespa's concept a bit confusing/perplexing. However, they are gorgeous and talented (I especially love Ningning's voice) and don't deserve this amount of hate. I swear, it sounds like people are just looking for controversy because they're bored or frustrated with the state of the world and just trying to take out their negative emotions on other people. I hope the four members of Aespa will rise above this and continue their hard work. Edit: I'm not confused about what their concept is, I'm confused why, from a marketing perspective, SM Entertainment is being so restrictive with how they're using it. I haven't seen an act from SM Entertainment that has stuck so strictly to the concept the way they have with Aespa. I'm even more confused that with all of the hate these very talented girls are getting, that they're really not doing much to defend them, especially when a lot of the things people are complaining about were probably not from Aespa members themselves, but from choices SM made. Considering the amount of time and money that goes into training and creating a kpop group, I would think SM would look out for their investment in these girls better than they seem to be doing, even if just from a business standpoint (although I hope they care about the members of the group more than in just being focused on business, but also from a safety and well-being perspective.)
@@angelinemariecastillo9322 the ae members aren’t supposed to look like aespa :) they’re alter egos, and members of the group- technically aespa has 8 members, and they all have a role in the SM universe storyline. I agree that the plagiarism shouldn’t have happened though
No but literally the way the concepts are ingrained into the songs and mvs are fabulous. There are literally so many other girl groups out there to stan if storylines aren’t your thing, why ruin a good thing for other people lmao
@@bloomboom3922 ohh but my other though is that, maybe those were the other members that needed to be included in the group , that would be nice too though. But, again SM should have put more effort to the Ae's to make them look more like Naevis.
Karina gets accused of fake text messages People: “She’s so mean” “She’s toxic” “She’s fake” SM defending Karina People: “She’s their favorite” “She’s receiving to much screen time”
Its not about mys. It about basic human decency. Dont hate someone for no reason specifically when you dont know them personally. Support is not a necessity for not hating. Just have basic decency
Aespas is really like exo when exo get accused by antis only real exols stayed and support them.no matter how much people hate on aespa real mys always support our girls.
Yes aespa on the track to be the biggest on this gen and they have set the bar too high for the others kpop faves thats why they get so much hate Just wait and see
It’s so sick to see that the major reasons why they are hated is 1. Someone else’s actions 2. Fake rumors 3. Racism/ fat phobia The only mistake that they made was the islamphobic joke and the n slur, they can be held accountable cause those are true but the rest are pure bullshit
And Giselle already apologized, but those haters saying that “can’t forgive” and “deserve the hate” and especially sending death threats are signs of low morale quality, it’s useless to talk to those kinds of people, they grow up in that kind of toxic family and environment, so they have that victim mentality and stupid idiotic morale so they “can’t forgive” and judge people who make mistakes, like they are sinless saints who’ve never made any mistakes, ignore them, they’re not in the same level of us, nor Giselle
@@girlyrandomcorner Are you serious?? Just bc someone apologizes doesn’t mean the hurt ones are to forgive immediately. A very different example could be a killer giving a short apology to the victim’s family and friends… does that make it so they have to forgive immediately? No. Probably also if you feel an apologizing person is being insincere, you wouldn’t want to accept their apology and forgive them. Giselle speaks fluent English and has been to either Canada or the US as an exchange student, I don’t remember which one, but this just puts her at a higher standard. She HAS to know the implications of using the n-slur as a non-black person. It quite literally displays her true character, as she has the means to know better than most Kpop-idols, while most should by now know not to be racist. You aren’t a hater for not accepting a fluently English speaker’s quick, short apology surrounding the n-slur. You just either expect better, expect her to show remorse and actively change - or you just don’t care, which is acceptable as well, because a victim’s reaction and response shouldn’t adhere to the offender’s feels and well-being, it should completely focus on their own hurt and if they feel forgiveness is deserved.
@@whyhihigh Gigi attended an international school in Japan she *didnt* studied in the states, she may know the n word but she may not know the weight it helds since she's still grew up in a asian surrounding... Forgiveness sure ppl she offended may not be able to do that but its so uncalled for to send death threats and not even giving the girl a chance
@@youknowtxt6311 no i mean there is part of it that i like but i feel like their music just isn't for me. I like their ascetic and they are gorgeous ladies but yeah not for me
I'm not a fan of Aespa, their music isn't for me as the only song of theirs I like is Black Mamba, but I don't see the point in hating them though, there's no point.
@@ophelia_x it's the company because they are following the company rules so i don't understand why people hating on idols instead of scolding the company like fr
Ikrr... I don't hate them but don't like them either..tbh if I personally don't like the music of any grp I don't really stan or follow them so much ... 😅
@@honey-suckle3228 Exactly plus none of them fit beauty standard aside form Karina. Ning Ning looks so out of place. Blackpink doesn’t have that problem though they are all skinny and have great voices
The fact that knetizens demand diversity in their visuals but when the diversity comes in they start being racists . They hate Karina cause she got the visuals they don't have
But actually knetizen like n support them well now as compare to debut time. Its just most hate coming from international fans of some grps.. toxic fans n fake fans tho . Ive seen n read alot ..huuuu
@@melodies_memoryofexy1006 I agree but int fans come in to the racial slur incident the fact that Giselle knows English so well is what brought the whole issue to the table . Isn't not her first time singing a song that ahs a racial slur word to it . Previously she avoided it but now she didn't . That's what got people mad
@@dubusubliminals help in which way ?? They literally are the ones doing the whole body shaming thing , calling out Ning Ning , yes there some netizens who are actually supportive but we cannot dismiss those that actually coz actual harm to the girls . The fact that they track your every move , dig though your past just to prove that you were fat and that the visuals ain't real come on .this has been happening to different idols and all this mostly done by netizens
I mean... it's not the girls' fault for their company's shortcomings (plagiarism controversy with the whole K/DA and artwork thing). I remember when Blackpink debuted and the amount of hate they got especially Jennie, remember the rumors that were surfacing and they discovered it was from one hater? Look at them now . They just need to push through. I like this group, their vocals are incredible . There's still a lot of work to be done but they have such amazing potential that they just need to let the heat fuel them more . I'm not a stan but I appreciate what they bring to Kpop.
They did the same to snsd too, so I’m starting to think that anyone that debuts with a crap ton of hate is destined to be the biggest group of that generation.
i love their vocals too, i don’t stan them as a group but we can’t deny their talent but also i wish sm had debuted 4 extra members instead of ai in the kwangya world i really hoped the sm rookie girls would’ve debuted too 😭
It's surprising that people don't shit on the company. Shitting on the artist is doing nothing, they are literally robots, they on'y do what the company wants them to do. Like, they had no choice.
As a SONE for almost 11 years, I also remember how much hate SNSD used to get, the black osean, the WG fans, the GG haters.. It used to get bad and bad as time gone but we see the light.. They became the most loved idol group, and still are really loved, and I can't help but notice how similar aespa's journey is. I ALSO HOPE THEY GET THE LOVE THEY DESERVE.
Criticism is not the same with bullying, shaming and hating. Cant they leave Aespa alone??? Gosh Im gonna contact a psychiatrist for them, they need help !
@JungHoseok Slays before you say a word. Hold RM accountable first ngga! He has mocked black people alot of times but haven't apologize. Also hate ≠ holding accountable
Hating idols, especially when they are in SM, is literally a wrong move for every hater out there. Imagine that every group released by SM was criticized so much: SJ get criticized by having 13 members, EXO was initially recognized by people as SM's greatest failure, F(x) was criticized just because Amber dressed like a totally normal person would do, Krystal being distant with the media because she was scared, not because she's acting like a bitch, Red Velvet was dragged down by people, asking why they have to debut at all (and that is why Yeri was so scared of people), hating Yeri for crying over Jonghyun's death. And now Aespa, the 4th gen girl group of SM with such amazing talents, gets criticism for lipsyncing, Giselle can't dance, Karina lacks muscle movement, and the hate for foreign members. I really don't get it, but don't you get it? Those idols that were criticized were now loved by the people, literally ate their words after saying harsh comments, even caused the death of 2 loved SM vocalist, Sulli and Jonghyun. Someday, this haters will also eat their words, vibing with Aespa's songs, and stanning over the members. Until then, just fuck off will you?
I super agree.. and these haters are the same people who preach about protecting idols’ mental healths because of what happened to Jonghyun, Sulli, and Hara. It’s just so disgusting and heartbreaking. I know that hate won’t go away soon, but at least real mys have each other’s backs to keep uplifting the girls because they are wonderful.
I rarely like girl groups but Aespa definitely caught my attention since they first debuted and now they are actually my favorite girl group (along with Red Velvet). Not only are they all pretty but they are very talented as well and their music style is really cool. I love all their songs and as for their personalities, they seem like girls I would like to be friends with. Also Karina who seems to get a lot of hate is my bias in the group. I really don't see why people are hating on them.
Giselle is racist and no one is saying anything about it, plus their music is kind of a niche genre. They’re still idols so they are talented but they could’ve used their platforms for something else than what has been used so far.
People will do everything to tear successful others. It’s so unbelievable for the reasons listed in this video. Thank you so much for doing these videos keep doing them I love watching them.
There wad also a fancam of Aespa where a staff member is heard saying "Theyre f*cking uncoordinated", I hope the girls get treated better, they're getting this much hate even though they're still rookies, they are literally queens 😭
I don't care what others say!! I just love aespa and among all the members Karina is my favorite. She is indeed my most favorite KPOP female idol right now. She is just on next level.
@@l0vet075 lol not u being childish, petty, toxic, and immature. ur one of their best consumers cuz u hate them yet contribute to their success, literally shut up
@@kag_17 It between these groups on who will become the nation's girl group of the 4th generation. 2th generation: Girl's Generation 3th generation: TWICE 4th generation: ?
@@kag_17 Yeah like will it be another JYP girl group or another SM girl group. Both groups are very good so it will be very difficult. But out of any company, JYP creates the best girl groups while SM has the best vocalists and visuals in the K-pop industry.
I hope aespa stands strong, please know that aespa will be one of the most known kpop groups (not thru scandles! But because of the hardwork) also can we please agree that we are SUPPOSED TO BLAME SM FOR MOST OF THESE ISSUES?!
I prefer to blame those bitter haters of aespa and other sment idols though they like to dig and look for issues and like to spread false issues about them just to drag them down and destroy their careers just like what they did to lucas
@@ciennabyrd6087 ? I'm talking about the other issues can't you read? Did i talk about her using the n word? And please stop dragging that issues again i'm sick of it
@@blackpink.redvelvet6982 first of all little girl you said “dig and look for issues” you never said excluding her using the n word. Which means you were talking about EVERYTHING said in this video. Second, DONT tell me to stop “dragging” it bc I’m a BLACK American. I can feel how I want about it and I can bring it up as much as I want. So respectfully stfu, thanks
@@ciennabyrd6087 aespa giselle has also issues about her before the n word issue get it? haters dig information about her and spread false rumor that she is using drug because of her old photos using middle finger which isn't true and saying that she used her familys connection just to debut in aespa just because her family is rich but it's not true .And i know your black because of your profile pic. But i'm sick of reading that issue again and again if you still won't accept her apology and you still hate her i understand and respect it but please leave her alone don't use your energy and time to her
Being a MY is the most happiest and the most heartbreaking job💔, They didn't even 1 year old yet getting these type of unnecessary hate!! Hope my girls are OK, aespa you will be the most successful and relevant group of kpop!! ❤️
I think people are hating on them because they are so young in the industry and already breaking records. They are 4th gen queens. From the heavenly vocals, to the iconic dances and life changing raps they are definitely going to be more successful. look at what happened to next level. People was calling it noise music and then two weeks later you see everyone doing the dance and the same with savage. Just over three weeks and savage surpass 100 million views. its just something about SM artist. i love aespa and i cant wait to see what they have in store for us in the future
@@honey-suckle3228 If your offended about her saying that then just ignore the group. There is no reason why you should 1. hate on them 2. complain about them 3. harass them. Simple. You literally missed the entire point of my comment. They are humans if you hadn't noticed. I said Poor NingNing because she receives death threats for being Chinese.
@@dubusubliminals just cuz ur threatened by aespa doesnt mean u gotta take out ur toxicity and insecurity on them 🙄 being a blonk doesn’t make u cool just stop it’s embarrassing
Not defending Giselle but it is a nice improvement from the SM Entertainment to let their artists apologize for these certain kind of mistakes. Whether the black community forgives her or not, at least she publicly acknowleged what she did and apologized which doesn't really happen often. Edit: I apologize if I may have worded it wrong to some people out there especially to the black community. But just as I've said at the start of my comment I'm not defending Giselle and was really disappointed with what she did. Let's leave the decision to forgive to the people who are part of the black community only. Hopefully Giselle will not repeat this. God bless you all 🤍.
Its because SM wants Aespa to be big internationally as well as in Korea. All their previous groups only really cared about the Korean publics opinion. So they never cared about scandals that mattered to international fans, Wendy's racism issues for example. But since western fans are starting to bring in more money for kpop groups SM wants Aespa to be in on that too. Hence why they need the western world to like them
1) Nobody should judge off of nationality. It’s unbelievable of how people are that picky about the groups. 2) The groups have no control on their debut date so we would never know if it was a cover, but it was going to happen someday 3) Winter ‘meowing’ isn’t animal @buse. She’s just playing….👀 They don’t deserve this hate. They haven’t done anything wrong.
You can't bring down AESPA. They have the most unique concept ever and they don't go for generic songs. I am glad they don't go for the generic ones. Let them wonder everytime you make a comeback, AESPA. Let them wonder and be curious.
I love when u mentioned the n-word controversy you didn't invalidate people's feelings saying that "we should just forget abt it" like other TH-cam channels
don't get why singing a song from a black woman makes you a racist, a racist is someone who holds prejudice and antagonism against a race and she clearly had no prejudice with black people since she vibed and even memorize all the lyrics from a song sung by a black woman. If I'm a racist I'd judge and never listen to a song made by some race. For example those people who don't want to listen to kpop because they think koreans are chinese and call them covid spreaders bla bla. But giselle is literally happy singing a song despite the singer being a black, isn't that a proof of her not being a racist, not having prejudice and antagonism towards black people?
@@asdfghjkl-ny4nm here we go again 1. Gisele mouthed the n-word smth that non black people can't say 2. Who said she was a racist because she sang the song its the fact that she mouthed it 3. She fluent in English and knows the meaning of the word Im guessing u don't know the meaning of the n-word if u are saying stuff like this the n-word was used by white people during slavery day to black slaves as an insult OBVIOUSLY I don't think I have to get deeper into why this was /is wrong
@@yourmuse7 I agree with you on all of this except for "she's fluent in English, she knows the meaning of the n-word". Many are fluent in English but African and American history definitely isn't something thought everywhere, hence not everyone knows the implication behind the word even when they're fluent. HOWEVER she should know the meaning given that SM Ent. has been in so many controversies surrounding slurs and cultural appropriation that they and their artist should know better
Jealousy is really a disease, and I feel bad for these young girls being the the ones to receive so much hate, even for stuff they have no control over.
@@dishaasingh5444 but we should bring up the fct its mostly her in the back, other members can go in the back sometimes too, SM is just be biased yet again.
@@imgoingsolololololo4590 wtf? Just because she's at the back most of the time it doesn't mean she's the least talented. They're just doing formation that is pleasant to viewer's eye since they are only a 4 member group she got her screentime too, the least talented here is you.
@@brennathecatlover4360 I don’t have to accept her apology. Stop gaslighting black people into accepting apology’s from racists. She was raised in American and went to American school. Her apology was basically saying that she was sorry for saying it on camera.
Why can't we just enjoy them and their songs??? This is why we as human beings don't deserve ANYTHING. 🙄 EDIT: I'm talking about the UNNECESSARY HATE. This applies to EVERY KPOP GROUP. If they make mistakes and it offended you then sure but hating for no reason? lmao pathetic
Saying N word and offending black people and laughing at a islamphobic joke is everything to hate them I am black and I have rights to haye aespa okay?
@@advaitgm1221 you have the right to be offended but is hating her necessary? Doesn't that make you a bully? Why direct your energy to hate when you could've educate and spread awareness on the racism experienced by black community to the whole world (not limited to kpop community)? Does holding her accountable equal to hate?
Aespa’s hype definitely came from them being from SM but the hate is insane. I’m not a fan but sm is definitely not putting any effort or resources into them , there literally the new queens of distraction for 4gen when sm has scandals. They have potential if Sm and people give them a chance. They’ve made the best out of their situation. SM can’t manage girl groups
There hasn't been one SM group that didn't receive massive hate upon debut and/or near the beginning of their career. Every group was called a failure. Every group has some kind of scandal. It's nothing new to SM
They have come so far and so fast. They have endured more hate, lies and controversies than most groups have in way more time. Yet they still do their best on stage, on variety shows and social media. I have lots of love and respect for them
And also The most successful girl group 4 th generation : The most popular girl group the 4 th generation the most girl group views the first twenty-four hours The fastest group to get 100 million views in the fourth generation The fastest band the fourth generation gets perfect all-kill And more begets success Those who hate them underestimate the future of kpop
@@mommysaranghae1281 Do not compare them with the followers on insta or youtube , notice the achievements Achievements that they have achieved in months of their rights others in a year
Whatever they gonna said will not change the fact that they’re one of the most popular gg right now.Winter is literally my favourite idols in kpop right now and she’s one of the ace in 4th gen now.And she’s even in the no 1 of br ranking for October.I swear these girls will show a lot of talent in the future.
The Giselle situation literally awoke the inner demon in everyone because the amount of hate and nitpicking these ppl are doing is unreal. It’s like they wake up and think “how am I gonna hate on aespa today.” Lately they’ve been criticize a Halloween dance practice like bro it’s supposed to be something fun and the girls weren’t even that bad omfg. Cant enjoy nothing without seeing hate comments which is truly sad :(
why the hell do people continue to invalidate the feelings of black kpop stans about the giselle situation? disliking giselle for her ignorance and usage of a slur is not hating “just to hate”; its feeling hurt and disrespected by a word she definitely knew the meaning of. she’s a grown woman who went to an international school and said something hurtful that she shouldn’t of, plain and simple. how are people being “nitpicky”?
@@seulgisprinkles5343 no its the excessive harassment and body shaming that comes along with it. im black, and its confusing as to why people harass her everyday as though she said the n word in a malicious way when she didn't. she was wrong in lipsyning it but she immidietly apologised. shes the only idol under sm that has said sorry for their racism. constantly bullying her is NOT okay
@@seulgisprinkles5343 bruh- when someone is getting death threats and body shaming comments their humanity is more fucked up. Most people don't even care if she said the n word. People just want reason to hate on her.
Say what you want but you have to admit that both controversies and achievements of the group still contributed to their fame and is making them more recognized in the industry as a rookie group.
Honestly aespa is breathe of fresh air not like the generic or usual cute concept and girl cursh and like blackpink they also got alooooot of hate prior to their debut but look at them now the most succesful kpop group so i feel like aespa would also be big in the kpop world
the hate towards aespa started so much before any REAL controversy and it genuinely is so upsetting. i have been supporting aespa since january of this year, and honestly they were one of the first kpop groups i have ever really liked. what giselle ( and aespa in general ) did was WRONG but the hate they get is simply unjustifiable. edit : you can not like her and not accept her apology, but hating her and the other members just seems ..
Tbh k/da's explicit pictures are mostly all done due to the game having many people who have over sexualize the characters,especially Ahri and Evelynn. Ahri who is inspired by Korean mythology but is created with a sort of anime design and evelynn is a character that is aggressively sexual.
They get the most hate because they are the most popular. That's just how things go. But just want to say that Giselle usage of n-word was intentional so the hate was valid until the point they started shaming the whole group. Like even if you wanna hate, be logical atleast.
its so sad. they're relatively new as well and to be treated with so much backlash is absolutely heartbreaking. whether they "deserve" it or not, no group should be treated like this, especially because they arent even involved with most of these controversies! their concept and so many sm artists being involved with it leads to so many exciting theories. im hoping these girls keep their heads up.
I get they are getting a lot of unnecessary hate but the n-word scandal was a very relevant conversation, especially since the editors didn't even care to edit the part out and many Kpop stars keep saying the word even though they undoubtedly know what it means. The word is offensive when said by non-black individuals and people knowingly say it. Every year some Koop star is called out for saying the word and apologizes, only for another star to say it a few months later. Come on now. It just makes me wonder how many Kpop idols say the word behind cameras.
When æspa debuted, I was so excited because the whole VK-pop concept is so cool and I love K/DA. I was so excited to see what they would do with the characters, but I was so disappointed when I saw how STIFF the characters are. Like they really said "My hair...it don't move" Leave Karina alone. Stop being racist to Ningning. And come on now, Winter is just living her life stAWP. Giselle knew what she was doing when she said the n-word, and as a black person I am highly disappointed. And don't give me that "We need to educate Giselle" babes she is the most fluent and educated in English and don't say 'she apologised' no...no she didn't "I got carried away" gives off very 'I'm sorry I got caught' vibes Yeah but anyway...i was going to be such a huge MY.
Speaking English =/= being aware of every single detail about the cultural background of one of the many countries that use that language. I can tell you there are a lot of people in my country that speak English perfectly and are not aware of the n-word thing.
So people really forget “do onto others as you want done onto you”? It’s so sad for people to be so hateful towards such young girls, what if it was someone you knew?
Being talented and pretty bring haters I guess... But like I always say, haters sit down and just watch AESPA being legends. If you want to send hate adress SM not the girls. We MYs can be very powerful. Don't mess with us!
- Aespa just became the first ever 4th gen group to achieve PAK CAK RAK all at the same time - The first ever and the fastest 4th gen group to achieve PAK - Aespa now holds the record for the longest charting song on both Flo and Melon top 10 this year with next level by a 4th girl group - next level is now the second longest charting song on melon top 10 in 2021 behind BTS butter at number 1. - Aespa now holds the record for the best selling debut mini album or album by girl group in hanteo history - Aespa are now a Half million seller girl group joining mega giant girl group like Twice Blackpink and SNSD in the elite half million seller club. - they hold the record for the most viewed mv debut in the first 24 hours by any kpop acts of all time - they now holds the the record for the most viewed mv for the first 24 hours for a 4th generation idol group. - aespa holds the record for the most digital index point on gaon by a 4th gen group in 2021 All are achieve in with in there first year as a group
You can hate them but you can't change the fact that they are one of the most successful,talented and prettiest idol. Haters are actually jealous MY leave them, ignores them they didn't worth our precious time.Let's support them no matter what. They'll be big in future,they receive so much hate but they gain many new fans.
the way they are the best rookie group in this generation just speaks louder than the hate they get tbh. no one's doing it like them. the bigger and popular the group is the higher the hate they get.. its normal in kpop. I really wish the best for aespa coz theit talent is unmatched.
Personally I think Æspa is a nice group outside of the hate. Most of the controversy is not in the idols control yet they get the backlash of companies/staff work. People need to chill it’s not even their fault
See I love Aespa and they deserve all the love however I do not think they deserve all the female rookie group awards (but they probably will same with Enhypen for the boy groups due to them being super popular) as other groups are also super talented like Pixy and Purple Kiss (I may be biased tho due to the fact I just started stanning them and stuff) who also deserve the award. Like I said I do love Aespa and I am a MY so don't kill me for my opinion
Then every single kpop group deserves the same hate even Bts and bp. And no she doesn’t deserve hate cuz u people are the reason idols kill themselves u wait for them to mess up then bash them for life. Smh
@@deikshaa3314 they already have tbh. These people hating on not just Giselle but other idols are the reason they get depressed and kill themselves but when they do these people start preaching about mental health
It's okay, More hate, more people who will love and support them. Just like BLACKPINK, they get so much hate in the beginning but then end up becoming the Biggest and most popular Kpop group & GG in history. Im sure ÆSPA will become too. Love lots!
This is sad fr- aespa was the first group i could actually get into and they really go through sm cause people just don’t wanna see someone else’s success
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The hate towards Ningning's nationality shows how a lot of knetizens lacks breeding.
Not even that. You can hate people from your own racial and ethnic background(s), but these people are just ignorant and xenophobic. Chinese idols get so much unnecessary hate and "accidental" discrimination, as well as the HK and Taiwanese idols getting hate from Chinese fans and other people, too. Especially when there's a scandal, then these three particular groups are told to "go back to where you came from". Japanese idols, too. Honestly, people need to just realise how politically and historically biased they are, and work on improving themselves. Fans are discriminating against people even of different nationalities, when their problem is with that country's leadership, not the citizens.
@@someoldytaccount I’m not saying I stand for it but Chinese idols are known to get in a kpop group to boost their career in China. Many leave their groups because they’ll be A list celebrities with huge and expensive sponsorships even if they didn’t come from a top kpop group. Also whenever something happens in China like the whole Hong Kong dispute most if not all Chinese members of kpop groups went to either Weibo or Instagram to show solidarity to China. Korea and China has had a long hateful history hence why many knetizens see it as betrayal when groups leave their kpop group to get paid more in China
and brain cells. they lack those too
@@blacklungsanji3 I think what you talk about is the cyclical process Chinese idols see themselves gravitating towards, as their chances to gain celebrity status in South Korea are limited, due to their nationality/current citizenship. Idol programs are also more focused on catering to Korean trainees/idols, so this is why many Chinese idols go back to China to compete in programs.
But I can kinda understand why fans think that way, but, at the end of the day, this is someone's life and career we're talking about, and lifelong fans will support someone, no matter what country or language they are promoting in.
In saying all of this, and slightly off point, but to a certain extent, I think everyone would rather promote in their home country, but C-pop is largely unknown worldwide, and so going to South Korea to hopefully become a trainee presents much better opportunities for a career. And it's not like this is only relevant to Chinese idols, either.
Idols who have ties to the USA or Canada usually go back there to promote after gaining a certain level of support. I see it like gaining experience for a job, which results in better future opportunities. Such opportunities don't happen without some sort of current sacrifice. Indeed, nothing in life happens without some form of sacrifice.
@@blacklungsanji3 This. The way Chinese celebs rush to support their government’s controversial agenda is ridiculous.
And i find it uncomfortable how you can’t really tell an idol’s moral stand because they’re all compelled to support their government whether they want it or not. It’s just weird
The fact that Karina has done literally nothing wrong yet she is the one that get the most hate i just cant with toxic fans hating on her just to feel better about themselves
Hk
well, she's doing something wrong, which is
... she's pretty :)
She had plastic surgery that's why ...
I think it's stupid to hate her for that
@ifhelikesmetakesmehome tf? Giselle doesn't deserve it! Stop being obsessed.
a lot of them are petty people and hypocrites
I'm surprised at the number of controversies held against them. They were just thrown on the hate wagon even before debut. It's disappointing. But it's obvious they didn't ask for problems with the public they're just like any other group trying to strive with success.
Every issue aespa has is due to their company, even their entry into the entertainment industry was too flashy, they made big promises and big words, making people look out for the girls mistakes, the girls have to be careful over everything, there are other 4th generation girls but why them??, considering they came out from a big company, their company is just worsening their problems, they first compared them to blackpink, forgetting how blackpink fandom read into everything, so they will look for anything to make people say they copied bp, be it a dress, tune, beat, drops, hair, and why is their plagiarism too much, i am not a big fan but i don't hate them as well, if their company pointed out how unique their group is and why we should look forward to them without playing mind games and using complicated words that would step on anyone's toe, just maybe people wouldnt be too over them looking into their mistakes, they were bringing something new no doubt
@@mae_ri You have a point, the company can do so much to represent them better. Their word versus the public is stronger and people will believe it. If they spoke up about more about ÆSPA's purpose and image and what makes them stand out as a group, they could be better received. Also if they cleared the lies and "controversies" about them they can keep a cleaner image too. But right now they're just being dragged by every little thing they do. 😔
the only one that made sense was giselles n word controversy.
@@jhonbull123 yet everyone that hates her stans other groups like Bts, exo, bp, twice, omg, loona, nct, gg, and so many other groups
@@brennathecatlover4360 Agreed. They forget what their groups have done and they straight up bash Giselle. The hypocrisy is real-
it’s the way girl groups get way more hate than guy groups- just shows how much equality people lack
Yes. BP had to go through this. Karina is facing the same situation of jennie
@@Neha_the_great_sharma I was just talking about this with my friends the other day. Karina is the Jennie of her generation - receives so much hate for little to no reason😔
Actually Male Idols have a very dedicated fan base like they'll do anything to defend their Idols but on the other hand Female Idol's Fandom is like not that reliable they only will accuse and harras their own Idols first.
@@bluishbomi1604 100% truth. I am also a boy group stan and at the same time a girl group stan. I support all the groups and defend them but a very less gg stans are supportive like me. I don't know. Either they are misogynistic or I am a mad
@@bluishbomi1604 I don't agree with you. Fans of girl groups are not any less dedicated than boy group fans, it's just that the public and knetizens are often higly misogynist and therefore girl groups get hated on for simply existing. The fan base is loyal and dedicated, but there isn't much we can do when basically everyone else is against us.
Most hated means they will be more popular. Aespa, fighting.
Yes sm artists get so much hate in the beginning and they end up becoming the most popular groups in K-pop history
@@brandoncrenshaw5027 true
Yesssss we love aespa and exo and NCT everyone in sm except ceo
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not really tho sometimes from wht ik... if they get TOOO MUCH hate (like out of control) they company will make them disband and i dont want them to disband :(
aespa are going through a lot but I just want them to know that M.Y like me are going to stick with them and support them both during their good times and their hard times
They copied blackpink
@@alovegreat955 sorry about that but it's Company's fault not theirs
Exactly !
@@alovegreat955 no they didn’t, you ignorant. He a life, and glasses.
Tiff Q
Learn to spell then talk
reminds me of Girls' Generations earlier days and what they have been through such as the black ocean. aespa will be the princesses of k-pop, trust me on that! they will be the top girl group in the future and might share the spot with 2-3 more, but I am so sure of it that they will be even more succesful than they already are as of now.
Ikr.
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That’s actually a good description of them. Princesses of K-pop
Happened with Twice as well when they first started.
This group will soar high too haha
Giselle holding up the middle fingers from her school years is just iconic
giselle saying the nword is not though
@@fairywonder3419 No it isn’t but she apologised for that & I’m sure SM told her what she could & what she couldn’t say & I’m just glad SM let her apologise bc they sweep EVERYTHING under the rug & that’s it unless you are black you can continue to have this conversation bc it’s only you can forgive her the rest of us it’s not our place too & if you’re not black or if you’re pretending to be black to have this conversation then 1. That’s just as bad (& so is sending death threats btw) & 2. Shut the fuck up!
@Lana del Rey needs to release her unreleased songs That is there own decision you nor I nor anyone else can make that decision for them.
@Lana del Rey needs to release her unreleased songs Yet the person I was responding too still didn't get it so I explained it to them again & stressed the point that now she apoligised after she messed up unless you're black you can't continue talking about it & I also said those who pretend their black just to continue talking about it (cuz you know theres pleanty of those out their too) are just as bad as that.
@@bellereinette2938 it’s the fact you’re trying to help dig racist behavior… 🚶🏽♀️ 1. 2.!~ Like that’s going to do s- 💀🙏🏽 I’m just wondering how long has she been saying *the word behind cameras?- 😞🙄😶
Im literally crying, this is aespa's journey of 1 year!!
N word.... ramadan....SKRRT SKRRT
@@honey-suckle3228 she already apologized so stfu.
@@notyourcutiepie971 you realize anyone can lie about an apology? stop getting mad at people for not accepting a racist’s apology
@@mileree1234 I'm not mad lol so you think her apology was a lie?? Girl you better check out the whole K Industry a lot of idol never apologized for what they did but Giselle is not like them she know her fault and she apologized it.wdym apology can be a lie??
@@mileree1234 yk what mouthing N word dosen't mean she is racist.that word was include in the song play at the back so she accidentally sang that word.she already said that she has no intention to hurt ppl so stfu again
Yet one of the most successful rookies ever! It's a reminder for everyone to ignore the hatred that's fueled by jealousy
@Rapunzel ♪ nice one 😍
@@lov9137 I do know what they did, but the hatred they got is more than should have been, I'm a Muslim myself and I'm still kinda mad at that incident, but instead of hating them with all my heart I should just stop being a fan, or hate them but not to the point of mentioning them in every convo related to K-POP....
@@lov9137 also I was talking about other type of hatred, not what you mentioned but you're 100% right ofc
@@lov9137 hate is not an option they can just unstan and ignore them
@@businessisboomin7252 may I know what islamphobic joke they laughed at?
I'll admit, I find Aespa's concept a bit confusing/perplexing. However, they are gorgeous and talented (I especially love Ningning's voice) and don't deserve this amount of hate. I swear, it sounds like people are just looking for controversy because they're bored or frustrated with the state of the world and just trying to take out their negative emotions on other people. I hope the four members of Aespa will rise above this and continue their hard work.
Edit: I'm not confused about what their concept is, I'm confused why, from a marketing perspective, SM Entertainment is being so restrictive with how they're using it. I haven't seen an act from SM Entertainment that has stuck so strictly to the concept the way they have with Aespa. I'm even more confused that with all of the hate these very talented girls are getting, that they're really not doing much to defend them, especially when a lot of the things people are complaining about were probably not from Aespa members themselves, but from choices SM made. Considering the amount of time and money that goes into training and creating a kpop group, I would think SM would look out for their investment in these girls better than they seem to be doing, even if just from a business standpoint (although I hope they care about the members of the group more than in just being focused on business, but also from a safety and well-being perspective.)
No need to confuse .. Naevis it means the real fans ..and the blackmambas are the anti-fans..
it would be better if SM will stop plagiarizing others works and to remove the ae's cuz they don't change their outfits + they don't look like aespa
@@angelinemariecastillo9322 the ae members aren’t supposed to look like aespa :) they’re alter egos, and members of the group- technically aespa has 8 members, and they all have a role in the SM universe storyline. I agree that the plagiarism shouldn’t have happened though
No but literally the way the concepts are ingrained into the songs and mvs are fabulous. There are literally so many other girl groups out there to stan if storylines aren’t your thing, why ruin a good thing for other people lmao
@@bloomboom3922 ohh but my other though is that, maybe those were the other members that needed to be included in the group , that would be nice too though. But, again SM should have put more effort to the Ae's to make them look more like Naevis.
Karina gets accused of fake text messages
People: “She’s so mean” “She’s toxic” “She’s fake”
SM defending Karina
People: “She’s their favorite” “She’s receiving to much screen time”
No matter how much people hate aespa real mys always support our girls.
@Rapunzel ♪ nice one
Its not about mys. It about basic human decency. Dont hate someone for no reason specifically when you dont know them personally. Support is not a necessity for not hating. Just have basic decency
Yes I will always love aespa
Hiiiii
@@kanikagoswamy5677 tell that to all the toxic army’s and blinks they need a serious reality check asap
Aespas is really like exo when exo get accused by antis only real exols stayed and support them.no matter how much people hate on aespa real mys always support our girls.
Yes aespa on the track to be the biggest on this gen and they have set the bar too high for the others kpop faves thats why they get so much hate Just wait and see
kinda sad how a lot of exo-ls attacked karina for a stupid rumour
@@sleepysiopao9987 What was rumor?
@@sleepysiopao9987 not really, maybe some of knetz kai stan. Because i'm exol but this is first time I hear about this rumor.
@@sleepysiopao9987 bro kexol started that fake rumours just becoz she danced with Kai many of them hated her
It’s so sick to see that the major reasons why they are hated is
1. Someone else’s actions
2. Fake rumors
3. Racism/ fat phobia
The only mistake that they made was the islamphobic joke and the n slur, they can be held accountable cause those are true but the rest are pure bullshit
And Giselle already apologized, but those haters saying that “can’t forgive” and “deserve the hate” and especially sending death threats are signs of low morale quality, it’s useless to talk to those kinds of people, they grow up in that kind of toxic family and environment, so they have that victim mentality and stupid idiotic morale so they “can’t forgive” and judge people who make mistakes, like they are sinless saints who’ve never made any mistakes, ignore them, they’re not in the same level of us, nor Giselle
Wait, Islamphobic? Idk about that. When?
@@girlyrandomcorner Are you serious?? Just bc someone apologizes doesn’t mean the hurt ones are to forgive immediately. A very different example could be a killer giving a short apology to the victim’s family and friends… does that make it so they have to forgive immediately? No. Probably also if you feel an apologizing person is being insincere, you wouldn’t want to accept their apology and forgive them.
Giselle speaks fluent English and has been to either Canada or the US as an exchange student, I don’t remember which one, but this just puts her at a higher standard. She HAS to know the implications of using the n-slur as a non-black person. It quite literally displays her true character, as she has the means to know better than most Kpop-idols, while most should by now know not to be racist.
You aren’t a hater for not accepting a fluently English speaker’s quick, short apology surrounding the n-slur. You just either expect better, expect her to show remorse and actively change - or you just don’t care, which is acceptable as well, because a victim’s reaction and response shouldn’t adhere to the offender’s feels and well-being, it should completely focus on their own hurt and if they feel forgiveness is deserved.
islamphobic joke??
@@whyhihigh Gigi attended an international school in Japan she *didnt* studied in the states, she may know the n word but she may not know the weight it helds since she's still grew up in a asian surrounding...
Forgiveness sure ppl she offended may not be able to do that but its so uncalled for to send death threats and not even giving the girl a chance
Other members: getting hate for their "scandals"
NingNing: getting hate for her built and her nationality
People are stupid
why are they racist like what’s wrong with nationality
I honestly feel bad for them. Not a fan of their music, however they have gone through way too much for a year since debut.
oh, you don’t like savage?
@@youknowtxt6311 don't you know I'm savage?
@@youknowtxt6311 no i mean there is part of it that i like but i feel like their music just isn't for me. I like their ascetic and they are gorgeous ladies but yeah not for me
but it's all their own fault so that soaks up all the sympathy.
I'm not a fan of Aespa, their music isn't for me as the only song of theirs I like is Black Mamba, but I don't see the point in hating them though, there's no point.
I honestly agree with you and their music/tune isn't also for me and I honestly don't get why people literally hate them for no absulotely reason.
THE RACIST SCANDALS
@@ophelia_x it's the company because they are following the company rules so i don't understand why people hating on idols instead of scolding the company like fr
Ikrr... I don't hate them but don't like them either..tbh if I personally don't like the music of any grp I don't really stan or follow them so much ... 😅
@@honey-suckle3228 Exactly plus none of them fit beauty standard aside form Karina. Ning Ning looks so out of place. Blackpink doesn’t have that problem though they are all skinny and have great voices
The fact that knetizens demand diversity in their visuals but when the diversity comes in they start being racists . They hate Karina cause she got the visuals they don't have
So true.
But actually knetizen like n support them well now as compare to debut time. Its just most hate coming from international fans of some grps.. toxic fans n fake fans tho
. Ive seen n read alot ..huuuu
I don’t get the Korean standards fully since I’m Filipino but Koreans are trying to help, why is everyone trying to attack kneitzens ?!?
@@melodies_memoryofexy1006 I agree but int fans come in to the racial slur incident the fact that Giselle knows English so well is what brought the whole issue to the table . Isn't not her first time singing a song that ahs a racial slur word to it . Previously she avoided it but now she didn't . That's what got people mad
@@dubusubliminals help in which way ?? They literally are the ones doing the whole body shaming thing , calling out Ning Ning , yes there some netizens who are actually supportive but we cannot dismiss those that actually coz actual harm to the girls . The fact that they track your every move , dig though your past just to prove that you were fat and that the visuals ain't real come on .this has been happening to different idols and all this mostly done by netizens
This aged so well, now Aespa is the best group from SM
people hate seeing successful women
(omgg leave me alone🙄😂)
Don’t talk when you have Shane on your pfp
@@hayoung1667 tf why are you so mad?
@@cheesecakefactory8327 go look up what he has done
@@hayoung1667 i know but that has nothing to do with my comment about aespa
@@cheesecakefactory8327 it says a lot about you
i just feel so bad for them :( I hope their mental health is okay.....
Ml
mental health is one of the big issue that idols have to deal with..
Pleaseeeeeee 💀
They are racist
@@stervasss9335 you are racist
@@stervasss9335 she apologized- it's black people's choice whether they accept it or not 💀
I mean... it's not the girls' fault for their company's shortcomings (plagiarism controversy with the whole K/DA and artwork thing). I remember when Blackpink debuted and the amount of hate they got especially Jennie, remember the rumors that were surfacing and they discovered it was from one hater? Look at them now . They just need to push through. I like this group, their vocals are incredible . There's still a lot of work to be done but they have such amazing potential that they just need to let the heat fuel them more . I'm not a stan but I appreciate what they bring to Kpop.
LiterallY true, the more the haters come the more popularity will be HAHAHAHAH 🤣
They did the same to snsd too, so I’m starting to think that anyone that debuts with a crap ton of hate is destined to be the biggest group of that generation.
AESPA CONCEPT START SINCE 2015 AND YG HYBE JYP ALL BIG KPOP AGENCIES WILL START THE METAVERSE CONCEPTS IT'S FOR THE FUTURE
i love their vocals too, i don’t stan them as a group but we can’t deny their talent but also i wish sm had debuted 4 extra members instead of ai in the kwangya world i really hoped the sm rookie girls would’ve debuted too 😭
It's surprising that people don't shit on the company. Shitting on the artist is doing nothing, they are literally robots, they on'y do what the company wants them to do. Like, they had no choice.
Winter: *Pets cat*
People: OmG sHe MuSt Be AbUsInG iT
As a SONE for almost 11 years, I also remember how much hate SNSD used to get, the black osean, the WG fans, the GG haters.. It used to get bad and bad as time gone but we see the light.. They became the most loved idol group, and still are really loved, and I can't help but notice how similar aespa's journey is. I ALSO HOPE THEY GET THE LOVE THEY DESERVE.
Criticism is not the same with bullying, shaming and hating.
Cant they leave Aespa alone??? Gosh Im gonna contact a psychiatrist for them, they need help !
giselle needs help too to shut her mouth and not saying the n word 😂😂😂
@@cl7717 she said it or not, its not an excuse to bully and send death threats to her. have some HUMAN decency, dont act like animals
@JungHoseok Slays before you say a word. Hold RM accountable first ngga! He has mocked black people alot of times but haven't apologize.
Also hate ≠ holding accountable
Karina visuals: "AI visuals"
Winter visuals: "elegance visuals"
Giselle visuals: "bad bitch visuals"
Ningning visuals: "Sexy Visuals"
Meanwhile
Karina æ: wth is this
Ningning æ: omg queen
Winter æ: omg queen
Giselle æ: pretty
@@biscomura karina ae looks maybe its not everyone fav type of looks even i agree. But giselle damn her ae is the most underrated along with ning ning
Agree 🖤💚💚💚
@@biscomura omg I thought I was the only one hella afraid by Karina's AI😂😂😭
I think Ningning is more cute than sexy
Hating idols, especially when they are in SM, is literally a wrong move for every hater out there. Imagine that every group released by SM was criticized so much: SJ get criticized by having 13 members, EXO was initially recognized by people as SM's greatest failure, F(x) was criticized just because Amber dressed like a totally normal person would do, Krystal being distant with the media because she was scared, not because she's acting like a bitch, Red Velvet was dragged down by people, asking why they have to debut at all (and that is why Yeri was so scared of people), hating Yeri for crying over Jonghyun's death. And now Aespa, the 4th gen girl group of SM with such amazing talents, gets criticism for lipsyncing, Giselle can't dance, Karina lacks muscle movement, and the hate for foreign members. I really don't get it, but don't you get it?
Those idols that were criticized were now loved by the people, literally ate their words after saying harsh comments, even caused the death of 2 loved SM vocalist, Sulli and Jonghyun. Someday, this haters will also eat their words, vibing with Aespa's songs, and stanning over the members. Until then, just fuck off will you?
I super agree.. and these haters are the same people who preach about protecting idols’ mental healths because of what happened to Jonghyun, Sulli, and Hara. It’s just so disgusting and heartbreaking. I know that hate won’t go away soon, but at least real mys have each other’s backs to keep uplifting the girls because they are wonderful.
I rarely like girl groups but Aespa definitely caught my attention since they first debuted and now they are actually my favorite girl group (along with Red Velvet). Not only are they all pretty but they are very talented as well and their music style is really cool. I love all their songs and as for their personalities, they seem like girls I would like to be friends with. Also Karina who seems to get a lot of hate is my bias in the group. I really don't see why people are hating on them.
Sameeee
you're an skz and red velvet fan so I automatically know you have no clue how to hold people accountable for racist actions. do your research
Because they're islamphobic and giselle said the n word
Giselle is racist and no one is saying anything about it, plus their music is kind of a niche genre. They’re still idols so they are talented but they could’ve used their platforms for something else than what has been used so far.
felix and stray kids also is iconic
And yet they outperformed every other female group this year, both physically and digitally.
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@🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 lol blackpink haven't had a comeback this year. please use your brain
@🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 blackpink didn't even had a comeback
@🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 it's true.
@🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿 lol
People will do everything to tear successful others. It’s so unbelievable for the reasons listed in this video. Thank you so much for doing these videos keep doing them I love watching them.
So you’re saying Giselle saying the N word isn’t wrong?
@@ciennabyrd6087 🧐☝🏽💯
There wad also a fancam of Aespa where a staff member is heard saying "Theyre f*cking uncoordinated", I hope the girls get treated better, they're getting this much hate even though they're still rookies, they are literally queens 😭
I don't care what others say!! I just love aespa and among all the members Karina is my favorite. She is indeed my most favorite KPOP female idol right now. She is just on next level.
Unlogical childish like u is their best consumer for idol.
Agree shes 🔥❤💎
@@l0vet075 KPOP is not for logical old hearted people like you 😆😜 You should watch political news channels like my grandparents 🤣😝
@@l0vet075 lol not u being childish, petty, toxic, and immature. ur one of their best consumers cuz u hate them yet contribute to their success, literally shut up
yessssss
Fun Fact : They are one of the most and best rookie girl group
Aespa and ITZY are the top girl groups of the 4th generation
@@jordicarvajal2834 i agree ^_^
@@kag_17 It between these groups on who will become the nation's girl group of the 4th generation.
2th generation: Girl's Generation
3th generation: TWICE
4th generation: ?
@@jordicarvajal2834 yoo I can't choose between Itzy and Aespa !!😭😭😭 Can't they both become the nations girl group for 4th gen 😭😢
@@kag_17 Yeah like will it be another JYP girl group or another SM girl group. Both groups are very good so it will be very difficult. But out of any company, JYP creates the best girl groups while SM has the best vocalists and visuals in the K-pop industry.
I hope aespa stands strong, please know that aespa will be one of the most known kpop groups (not thru scandles! But because of the hardwork) also can we please agree that we are SUPPOSED TO BLAME SM FOR MOST OF THESE ISSUES?!
I prefer to blame those bitter haters of aespa and other sment idols though they like to dig and look for issues and like to spread false issues about them just to drag them down and destroy their careers just like what they did to lucas
@@blackpink.redvelvet6982 Giselle saying the N word isn’t false. There’s literally a video. There’s no excuse for her bc she’s FLUENT in English
@@ciennabyrd6087 ? I'm talking about the other issues can't you read? Did i talk about her using the n word? And please stop dragging that issues again i'm sick of it
@@blackpink.redvelvet6982 first of all little girl you said “dig and look for issues” you never said excluding her using the n word. Which means you were talking about EVERYTHING said in this video. Second, DONT tell me to stop “dragging” it bc I’m a BLACK American. I can feel how I want about it and I can bring it up as much as I want. So respectfully stfu, thanks
@@ciennabyrd6087 aespa giselle has also issues about her before the n word issue get it? haters dig information about her and spread false rumor that she is using drug because of her old photos using middle finger which isn't true and saying that she used her familys connection just to debut in aespa just because her family is rich but it's not true .And i know your black because of your profile pic. But i'm sick of reading that issue again and again if you still won't accept her apology and you still hate her i understand and respect it but please leave her alone don't use your energy and time to her
NingNing is an unproblematic queen
She is defintion of not smart and she act like diva always,star syndrome,the only not problematic but with fake rumors is karina actuallyo
Periodt ‼️
it's ok, MYs~ remember that SNSD even got that black ocean thing when they're still rookies ;)
Facts!
Being a MY is the most happiest and the most heartbreaking job💔, They didn't even 1 year old yet getting these type of unnecessary hate!! Hope my girls are OK, aespa you will be the most successful and relevant group of kpop!! ❤️
Aren’t you the one who defended Giselle when she said the n slur??
@@hayoung1667 YESS
SKRRT SKRRT
..THE N WORD...RAMADAN...THAT DOESNT MATTER TO YOU???!!!
yo i remember seeing you defending Giselle when she said the n word, MYs job ain't about to hold them accountable for their mistakes ?
@@thevipblink8571 fr
I think people are hating on them because they are so young in the industry and already breaking records. They are 4th gen queens. From the heavenly vocals, to the iconic dances and life changing raps they are definitely going to be more successful. look at what happened to next level. People was calling it noise music and then two weeks later you see everyone doing the dance and the same with savage. Just over three weeks and savage surpass 100 million views. its just something about SM artist. i love aespa and i cant wait to see what they have in store for us in the future
AE did not just survive all those evil LIES, but went on to have a legendary rookie year. A testament to their talent and greatness. Aespa Forever !
The main reasons here are because they’re beautiful, talented, and receiving a lot of recognition since their first debut.
i think it has a lots to do with sm's marketing stragedy...
Can we just leave idols alone? Or is that too hard to do? They try so hard so get their dreams and then get bashed for existing. Poor NingNing. :(
Wow so saying the n word is a part of existing! Oh she passed away :( aww :( awww
:( well ok
@@honey-suckle3228 If your offended about her saying that then just ignore the group. There is no reason why you should 1. hate on them 2. complain about them 3. harass them. Simple.
You literally missed the entire point of my comment. They are humans if you hadn't noticed. I said Poor NingNing because she receives death threats for being Chinese.
STAN BLACKPINK kick aespa out of Mama
@@dubusubliminals in your dreams aespa will get that award and go cry
@@dubusubliminals just cuz ur threatened by aespa doesnt mean u gotta take out ur toxicity and insecurity on them 🙄 being a blonk doesn’t make u cool just stop it’s embarrassing
Not defending Giselle but it is a nice improvement from the SM Entertainment to let their artists apologize for these certain kind of mistakes. Whether the black community forgives her or not, at least she publicly acknowleged what she did and apologized which doesn't really happen often.
Edit: I apologize if I may have worded it wrong to some people out there especially to the black community. But just as I've said at the start of my comment I'm not defending Giselle and was really disappointed with what she did. Let's leave the decision to forgive to the people who are part of the black community only. Hopefully Giselle will not repeat this. God bless you all 🤍.
we don’t ❤️
Its because SM wants Aespa to be big internationally as well as in Korea. All their previous groups only really cared about the Korean publics opinion. So they never cared about scandals that mattered to international fans, Wendy's racism issues for example. But since western fans are starting to bring in more money for kpop groups SM wants Aespa to be in on that too. Hence why they need the western world to like them
@@madiea8074 Pick me alert
@@twilightflux995 this is so literally so funny because that does not apply to this situation at all who am i trying to have pick me babe?? please
miss Twilight Flux oooo you mad
1) Nobody should judge off of nationality. It’s unbelievable of how people are that picky about the groups.
2) The groups have no control on their debut date so we would never know if it was a cover, but it was going to happen someday
3) Winter ‘meowing’ isn’t animal @buse. She’s just playing….👀
They don’t deserve this hate. They haven’t done anything wrong.
You can't bring down AESPA. They have the most unique concept ever and they don't go for generic songs. I am glad they don't go for the generic ones. Let them wonder everytime you make a comeback, AESPA. Let them wonder and be curious.
I love when u mentioned the n-word controversy you didn't invalidate people's feelings saying that "we should just forget abt it" like other TH-cam channels
don't get why singing a song from a black woman makes you a racist, a racist is someone who holds prejudice and antagonism against a race and she clearly had no prejudice with black people since she vibed and even memorize all the lyrics from a song sung by a black woman. If I'm a racist I'd judge and never listen to a song made by some race. For example those people who don't want to listen to kpop because they think koreans are chinese and call them covid spreaders bla bla. But giselle is literally happy singing a song despite the singer being a black, isn't that a proof of her not being a racist, not having prejudice and antagonism towards black people?
@@asdfghjkl-ny4nm here we go again 1. Gisele mouthed the n-word smth that non black people can't say
2. Who said she was a racist because she sang the song its the fact that she mouthed it
3. She fluent in English and knows the meaning of the word
Im guessing u don't know the meaning of the n-word if u are saying stuff like this the n-word was used by white people during slavery day to black slaves as an insult OBVIOUSLY I don't think I have to get deeper into why this was /is wrong
@@asdfghjkl-ny4nm AND YOU'VE GOT TO STOP TRYNA COVER UP UR FAVES W DUMB EXUSES Gisele is in the wrong end of story
@@asdfghjkl-ny4nm stop commenting the same paragraph everywhere, it’s embarrassing to see
@@yourmuse7 I agree with you on all of this except for "she's fluent in English, she knows the meaning of the n-word". Many are fluent in English but African and American history definitely isn't something thought everywhere, hence not everyone knows the implication behind the word even when they're fluent. HOWEVER she should know the meaning given that SM Ent. has been in so many controversies surrounding slurs and cultural appropriation that they and their artist should know better
Jealousy is really a disease, and I feel bad for these young girls being the the ones to receive so much hate, even for stuff they have no control over.
and the most successful rookies & girl group of 4th gen.
Amd the fact that in Aespa's choreographies, Giselle is mostly at the back
Probably because they wanna focus on the main dancer (especially in the dance breaks) or the one who is singing?
@@dishaasingh5444 but we should bring up the fct its mostly her in the back, other members can go in the back sometimes too, SM is just be biased yet again.
cause she’s the least talented!
@@imgoingsolololololo4590 wtf? Just because she's at the back most of the time it doesn't mean she's the least talented. They're just doing formation that is pleasant to viewer's eye since they are only a 4 member group she got her screentime too, the least talented here is you.
@@nah.0107 whatever helps you sleep at night 🥱
We armies definitely love Aespa. I mean who can hate those cute, lovable, beautiful girls 💜💜💜💜
👀
@@kgomotsomokgotsi4461 .........is that a sign of simp 😗 ?
Who’s we
@@s00berrys us real fans. Lol u Stan Bts yet bitch about Gisselle saying the n word? How pathetic at least she apologized
@@brennathecatlover4360 I don’t have to accept her apology. Stop gaslighting black people into accepting apology’s from racists. She was raised in American and went to American school. Her apology was basically saying that she was sorry for saying it on camera.
Why can't we just enjoy them and their songs??? This is why we as human beings don't deserve ANYTHING. 🙄
EDIT: I'm talking about the UNNECESSARY HATE. This applies to EVERY KPOP GROUP. If they make mistakes and it offended you then sure but hating for no reason? lmao pathetic
Saying N word and offending black people and laughing at a islamphobic joke is everything to hate them I am black and I have rights to haye aespa okay?
@@advaitgm1221 you have the right to be offended but is hating her necessary? Doesn't that make you a bully? Why direct your energy to hate when you could've educate and spread awareness on the racism experienced by black community to the whole world (not limited to kpop community)? Does holding her accountable equal to hate?
@@cleoz_ at least she had made a video not some typing message on twitter like only 10-20 seconds
@@advaitgm1221 as a muslin myself I don’t really fine that islamphobic joke offended it’s just lame....
@@advaitgm1221 just remember kpop idols is also a human like us and does mistakes
The fact that they are so strong to ignore the hates, im so proud of them
i always pet my cats head very hard, literally no harm to the cats💀
so true I would always play with my dog like that. i shows that people will find ways just to hate on people and twist words.
All of these happened not even a year since their debut but it seems that the girls handle these sh*ts pretty well.
Aespa’s hype definitely came from them being from SM but the hate is insane. I’m not a fan but sm is definitely not putting any effort or resources into them , there literally the new queens of distraction for 4gen when sm has scandals. They have potential if Sm and people give them a chance. They’ve made the best out of their situation. SM can’t manage girl groups
But their songs are quite good to be honest....
you got nerfed?
Can we just chill and enjoy K-pop music. People be really jobless and super free.
There hasn't been one SM group that didn't receive massive hate upon debut and/or near the beginning of their career. Every group was called a failure. Every group has some kind of scandal. It's nothing new to SM
Very well researched video! You put lot's of effort in it.
Aespa haters must feel really dumb right now
nah fr
They have come so far and so fast. They have endured more hate, lies and controversies than most groups have in way more time. Yet they still do their best on stage, on variety shows and social media. I have lots of love and respect for them
And also The most successful girl group 4 th generation :
The most popular girl group the 4 th generation
the most girl group views the first twenty-four hours
The fastest group to get 100 million views in the fourth generation
The fastest band the fourth generation gets perfect all-kill
And more begets success
Those who hate them underestimate the future of kpop
the most girl group views in the first twenty-four hours for 4th generation*
@@marscast1679 tnx my key prblm
@@colared2217 no problems
Genuinely not trying to hate but they’re the second most successful 4th gen gg
@@mommysaranghae1281 Do not compare them with the followers on insta or youtube , notice the achievements Achievements that they have achieved in months of their rights others in a year
Idk it just seems like the reason why SM dosent debut girl group that often is due to some unnecessary hate they must be cursed or somethin.
I’m shocked at how unique everything Aespa released is so far. Vocals, visuals, good music. I had no idea people even hated them.
Whatever happens MY LOVE THEM ALWAYS🌙🌟🦋❤
Monster rookies breaking records 💖💖💖💖
Whatever they gonna said will not change the fact that they’re one of the most popular gg right now.Winter is literally my favourite idols in kpop right now and she’s one of the ace in 4th gen now.And she’s even in the no 1 of br ranking for October.I swear these girls will show a lot of talent in the future.
The Giselle situation literally awoke the inner demon in everyone because the amount of hate and nitpicking these ppl are doing is unreal. It’s like they wake up and think “how am I gonna hate on aespa today.” Lately they’ve been criticize a Halloween dance practice like bro it’s supposed to be something fun and the girls weren’t even that bad omfg. Cant enjoy nothing without seeing hate comments which is truly sad :(
Giselle awoke an inner demon when she said a slur
why the hell do people continue to invalidate the feelings of black kpop stans about the giselle situation? disliking giselle for her ignorance and usage of a slur is not hating “just to hate”; its feeling hurt and disrespected by a word she definitely knew the meaning of. she’s a grown woman who went to an international school and said something hurtful that she shouldn’t of, plain and simple. how are people being “nitpicky”?
they were receiving extreme hate before they even debut.
@@seulgisprinkles5343 no its the excessive harassment and body shaming that comes along with it. im black, and its confusing as to why people harass her everyday as though she said the n word in a malicious way when she didn't. she was wrong in lipsyning it but she immidietly apologised. shes the only idol under sm that has said sorry for their racism. constantly bullying her is NOT okay
@@seulgisprinkles5343 bruh- when someone is getting death threats and body shaming comments their humanity is more fucked up. Most people don't even care if she said the n word. People just want reason to hate on her.
Seems as though a lot of Netizens have not learned anything from what happened with Sulli and Goo Hara. Breaks my heart.
Say what you want but you have to admit that both controversies and achievements of the group still contributed to their fame and is making them more recognized in the industry as a rookie group.
As
“The more you hate, the more they will be successful” so to the bashers out there, continue to bash HAHAHAHAHA
Honestly aespa is breathe of fresh air not like the generic or usual cute concept and girl cursh and like blackpink they also got alooooot of hate prior to their debut but look at them now the most succesful kpop group so i feel like aespa would also be big in the kpop world
What do you mean their concepts look very much girl crush to me, just surrounded with a SM universe storyline, no?
@@mordecaiissad8529 No it’s more so very cyberpunk to me
Whats wrong with being generic. as long as they have bops I stan
the hate towards aespa started so much before any REAL controversy and it genuinely is so upsetting. i have been supporting aespa since january of this year, and honestly they were one of the first kpop groups i have ever really liked. what giselle ( and aespa in general ) did was WRONG but the hate they get is simply unjustifiable.
edit : you can not like her and not accept her apology, but hating her and the other members just seems ..
Most hated group in 3rd gen : Black Pink
Most popular 3rd gen : Blackpink
Most hate 4th kpop group : Aespa
Aespa Will be the biggest 4th gen gg mark my words everyone is threatened so much of them
Aespa is gonna rise and haters are gonna sunk 😍 lmao Aespa and BP queens don’t say otherwise
NO GET OUT FR.
@@yujiminfan3816 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
I will always love and support you, aespa. Please stay strong and ignore all the hate. I believe you’ll be very successful in the future.
Honestly, I feel sorry for these girls.
@@kpop2338 True but what about their mental health?? :(
@@kpop2338 Ouhhhh yeahh right
aespa is the most hated because they are the most perfect! people are just jealous
STAN AESPA!
If you were a MY during their pre-debut era, you can pull through anything!
Tbh k/da's explicit pictures are mostly all done due to the game having many people who have over sexualize the characters,especially Ahri and Evelynn. Ahri who is inspired by Korean mythology but is created with a sort of anime design and evelynn is a character that is aggressively sexual.
They get the most hate because they are the most popular.
That's just how things go.
But just want to say that Giselle usage of n-word was intentional so the hate was valid until the point they started shaming the whole group.
Like even if you wanna hate, be logical atleast.
Indeed bestie. they are spreading hate to drag them down
and now they are the fastest 4th gen to have 2 daesang
its so sad. they're relatively new as well and to be treated with so much backlash is absolutely heartbreaking. whether they "deserve" it or not, no group should be treated like this, especially because they arent even involved with most of these controversies! their concept and so many sm artists being involved with it leads to so many exciting theories. im hoping these girls keep their heads up.
Netizens and misogynistic men hate successful women change my mind :)
I mean, misogynistic men would hate all women, not just the successful ones lol
bro... can you stop?
I get they are getting a lot of unnecessary hate but the n-word scandal was a very relevant conversation, especially since the editors didn't even care to edit the part out and many Kpop stars keep saying the word even though they undoubtedly know what it means. The word is offensive when said by non-black individuals and people knowingly say it. Every year some Koop star is called out for saying the word and apologizes, only for another star to say it a few months later. Come on now. It just makes me wonder how many Kpop idols say the word behind cameras.
Those people hating I bet also preach about mental health and no bullying. And they most likely Stan groups that have a past also smh
I was just singing a song, if you don't want it said, don't normalize it.
Even bts said it...and it is not removed from their channel..
@@malapersonaLMAOoh brother
the racial slur is with ER, but with AS is not a racial slur
as much as it’s not my type of music, the hate towards them is insane
When æspa debuted, I was so excited because the whole VK-pop concept is so cool and I love K/DA. I was so excited to see what they would do with the characters, but I was so disappointed when I saw how STIFF the characters are. Like they really said "My hair...it don't move"
Leave Karina alone. Stop being racist to Ningning. And come on now, Winter is just living her life stAWP.
Giselle knew what she was doing when she said the n-word, and as a black person I am highly disappointed. And don't give me that "We need to educate Giselle" babes she is the most fluent and educated in English and don't say 'she apologised' no...no she didn't "I got carried away" gives off very 'I'm sorry I got caught' vibes
Yeah but anyway...i was going to be such a huge MY.
Speaking English =/= being aware of every single detail about the cultural background of one of the many countries that use that language. I can tell you there are a lot of people in my country that speak English perfectly and are not aware of the n-word thing.
So people really forget “do onto others as you want done onto you”? It’s so sad for people to be so hateful towards such young girls, what if it was someone you knew?
Being talented and pretty bring haters I guess...
But like I always say, haters sit down and just watch AESPA being legends. If you want to send hate adress SM not the girls. We MYs can be very powerful. Don't mess with us!
- Aespa just became the first ever 4th gen group to achieve PAK CAK RAK all at the same time
- The first ever and the fastest 4th gen group to achieve PAK
- Aespa now holds the record for the longest charting song on both Flo and Melon top 10 this year with next level by a 4th girl group
- next level is now the second longest charting song on melon top 10 in 2021 behind BTS butter at number 1.
- Aespa now holds the record for the best selling debut mini album or album by girl group in hanteo history
- Aespa are now a Half million seller girl group joining mega giant girl group like Twice Blackpink and SNSD in the elite half million seller club.
- they hold the record for the most viewed mv debut in the first 24 hours by any kpop acts of all time
- they now holds the the record for the most viewed mv for the first 24 hours for a 4th generation idol group.
- aespa holds the record for the most digital index point on gaon by a 4th gen group in 2021
All are achieve in with in there first year as a group
You can hate them but you can't change the fact that they are one of the most successful,talented and prettiest idol.
Haters are actually jealous MY leave them, ignores them they didn't worth our precious time.Let's support them no matter what.
They'll be big in future,they receive so much hate but they gain many new fans.
Brah, this is too much.
@Rapunzel ♪ now i’m sad
the way they are the best rookie group in this generation just speaks louder than the hate they get tbh. no one's doing it like them. the bigger and popular the group is the higher the hate they get.. its normal in kpop. I really wish the best for aespa coz theit talent is unmatched.
Personally I think Æspa is a nice group outside of the hate. Most of the controversy is not in the idols control yet they get the backlash of companies/staff work. People need to chill it’s not even their fault
My fellow My's literally fight for their lives everyday in every hour to the point where they act hostile to other fandoms by accident😭
See I love Aespa and they deserve all the love however I do not think they deserve all the female rookie group awards (but they probably will same with Enhypen for the boy groups due to them being super popular) as other groups are also super talented like Pixy and Purple Kiss (I may be biased tho due to the fact I just started stanning them and stuff) who also deserve the award. Like I said I do love Aespa and I am a MY so don't kill me for my opinion
Good luck aespa
I’m a big fan of Aespa. They need to leave them alone.❤❤❤
Giselle’s n word scandal hate was needed because she said something wrong and offended people while knowing she would
Then every single kpop group deserves the same hate even Bts and bp. And no she doesn’t deserve hate cuz u people are the reason idols kill themselves u wait for them to mess up then bash them for life. Smh
@@brennathecatlover4360 That's right. If BP or BTS says the word no one will care.
@@deikshaa3314 they already have tbh. These people hating on not just Giselle but other idols are the reason they get depressed and kill themselves but when they do these people start preaching about mental health
@@deikshaa3314 who said people won't care if BTS does it?? people literally bring up things BTS have done in the past all the time
Bro she just said that she didn’t know
It's okay, More hate, more people who will love and support them. Just like BLACKPINK, they get so much hate in the beginning but then end up becoming the Biggest and most popular Kpop group & GG in history. Im sure ÆSPA will become too. Love lots!
It's really cool to know K/DA inspired SM so much.
Idt KDA inspired them bcs this concept they started work on since 2015.
Its not about K/DA girllll
Virtual/animated idols existed WAAAYYY back before K/DA even existed.
K/DA just bought the trend to korea
@@Eat_and_Live17 I knkw but I'm jyst saying.
sm already did an hologram concept and had ae with snsd. there were also huge ae popstars in jpop so kda start nothing...
This is sad fr- aespa was the first group i could actually get into and they really go through sm cause people just don’t wanna see someone else’s success