But fire fire everywhere so we'll still get to feel that shit regardless as to the reaction and I think he know that's what's going to happen so I don't think he'd allow it to damper his performance and even will probably have a couple lines prepared in his head in case that stuff happens to make it look like freestyles just to help try and bring the crowd over to his side some and even the battle out more. He knows the battle on the road game so u can be sure if he go to url he gonna be prepared and reaction or not it's gonna be crazy. Think his last geechi battle in Compton or run nitty, charron in Europe, eljay in Australia, real deal in Canada or hungry on get u some battle league. It's gonna be crazy!!!
S/O A Ward... he made a bunch of VALID POINTS. ALL YOU UP AND COMING BATTLE LEAGUES NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS. THESE GUYS ARE BASICALLY ADMITTING THEY AREN'T TAKING YOU SERIOUS BUT THEY TAKING YOUR MONEY.
Bill always jumpin in some shit talkin... These the reasons Bill career plateaud for the reasons hes stating... hed battle a box of rocks on url... not the way to go
only 1 person in this whole conversation could potentially even beat a ward, and thats surf, so all the other haters enjoy your "nba" bench seat and keep watching from the bench
There are arguments for both sides. However, if I was A ward I would keep doing what he's doing. URL's exclusivity model will be one of the reasons of it's undoing. A ward contracting with them would mess up his business model. URL isn't going to be #1 forever. These "smaller" leagues keep growing in size and talent. And A ward was been making the rounds, diversifying his portfolio and raising his stock. So when these leagues match or become bigger than the url (collectively, they might be now) his elevation compounds that much more. Other rappers will follow the same vein. URL will be forced to bend or break to this freelance model. Also quick thing about diversity in the url. In the high level tsu claims the url to be in. It is very niche almost every round is along the lines of "my tool go blaow," struggle bar, or something about blow. Which is fine to write about, but because of the nature of the material you then get rebuttals like 'this is real life, not rap stories", to the effect of' I'm really like that'. And with that dynamic comes an aggression that blurs the line between real life and bars. Actual grudges, fights, and so much worse. This isn't attractive to newcomers nor a great model to sustain a business. Url don't cannibalize yourself. I want to share a line to surf from award v homeskool 'You're only effective here'
Surf you got clipped in your own city yall some F ing custers on NBC. YOU GUYS GOT DOUBLE STANDARDS WHEN WE ALL SEEN YOU AND JACK BOTH GET DRAGGED ON STAGE. you beat twork and John John who both been looking medicore gtfoh on NBC.
This narrative that award be only battling nobody's had got to stop. Son fire first off and truth be told he smoked all my cuz niggas so surf probably would get 30 as well. With that said if u don't want to count cats like chef trez, real deal, qleen paper, lu Castro, ryda, pt, saint Mic, mad flex, riggz or Mac Myron as somebody's and discredit the fact that he smoked all them fools, and u don't want to count his one rounders against arsonal and clips it would still sound silly to me to hear mf say he only battles nobody's( and he won that frozenberg battle too homie) let's not discredit DNA, Cortez, run nitty, ill will, Danny Myers, illmac, charron, reed dollaz, ness Lee, Bill collector, shotgun Suge, ored and geechi Gotti twice everyone of who in my opinion he beat not to mention his 2 on 2 battles against prep and twerk,... KD and MVP and him and loso vs geechi Gotti and b. Dot which he killed in all of but he did all that well battling all these other "nobodies" so don't claim a lousy resume on his behalf if u don't even know his resume only cause his outshines damn near everyone else's if we're being honest. All that and so much more with less then 3 losses and in my opinion more like 1 or maybe 2 loses total which u can't name many who can say that so I don't see how he wouldn't be labeled one of the goat's url or not especially when he still smoking all them mf too on these other leagues. And I don't want to hear they ain't trying there hardest on a smaller league. Not only is there no such thing as half way crooks but y'all ceing insulting to all them rappers talking like they pulled punches and slacced off on the job rather then give it they best. Hella disrespect and undermine award at the same time. With or without the gas what he spit fire in the small room then it's for on a large stage, on the corner or in the church. Krowd reaction or no kroud reaction heat heat everywhere and award be on fire
Surf can’t have a say in what leagues matter & don’t because he is (from his own admission) employed & a representative of the URL. He is the definition of a conflict of interest so his statements & opinions are all invalid. Listening to him state the URL is the NBA of battle leagues is like going to the casino & letting the dealers gamble your money for you. Y’all let surf big brain y’all every time, lol. Whole time he just a spokesperson for the URL, of course he gonna big them & diminish the value of other leagues, dummies.
Listen, these battlers have stop trying to make it seem. A ward haven't battled any tough competition, He done battled Charlie clips, Geechi Gotti twice, ill will, lu Castro, Arsonal etc Without The url. When half of these battle rappers can't even touch these names. The problem is people let surf. Paint these narratives because he's url golden child
If it ain’t URL its always second tier. At the end of the day. URL started this whole wave besides fightklub and Grindtime and they aren’t around anymore. A Ward is overrated. He’s not that good.
Shit is so sad. Award wins every debate because he’s not on URL and he has url battlers wanting him over there. If I was a ward I wouldn’t even join these groups and have them talk about me all year
Kimbo slice was tyson in the underground fighting. Andnit got him a shot at ufx and he took it and he wasnt as big as a monster or tyson as he was underground. But point is all that nosie he made was for him to get a chance on a stage that MATTERS. Same with all sports and BATTLE RAP . i don't see how yall dont get getting on url stage is a diff level regardless
THESE SUCKAS TURNED HIM OFF SOON AS HE MENTIONED GOD BEING HIS MOTIVATION & THERES NO COMEBACK TO THAT. CANT REBUTTLE REAL. (Even surf had to say that was the devil)
Award 30 this convo I must say 😂 ,,,, he just went up against geechi the battler with the most hype right now,,and he did well again arguable won. Don’t matter where he was he put on and gotti came to kill em so he can def hang with the best no matter the platform…..
Tsu will tell one battle rapper to not battle aka JC, Chilla etc. And then award out here with CLEAR wins versus, Geechi, Clips, Ill Will etc. And then mad Award won't battle Nunn Nunn.
I respect and understand A WARD but he has to get this... When he battles on these small leagues he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.. thus, the 'big names' he battles have nothing to gain and everything to lose. If you wanna stack up a bunch of battles/wins under those pretenses that's fine, BUT don't start shitting on the guys who DO compete in the bigger leagues with higher/ leveled stakes - it is not the same.. in my opinion, THAT is where he goes wrong. You jumping both sides when you say "its some guys in the NBA that cant play overseas" ... either go to their league and find that out or stay in your place and leave them alone.
Everyone else looks bad, not ward. Ward isn’t being understood or allowed to explain his opinion because everyone else wants their opinion as a fact. It don’t work like that
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Why is jakk talking? Nobody hasn't looked at him the same since the Jon Jon battle 😭😭😭
Y is Jackboy even talking?
Bill collector as well.
Yall really trying to tell A.Ward how to feel about his career, if he's okay with his path in battle rap, then let him be
Facts!
If I’m Award Jackboy and Bill not allowed to talk to me and I woulda said that
Jack would never get a Geechi or ill will battle
You should change the name to Award vs Everyone on the phone lol
😂😂😂😂😂
If Award goes to URL, they gonna make it there business not to react.
INTERESTING 🤔SHEESH
That's a fact
But fire fire everywhere so we'll still get to feel that shit regardless as to the reaction and I think he know that's what's going to happen so I don't think he'd allow it to damper his performance and even will probably have a couple lines prepared in his head in case that stuff happens to make it look like freestyles just to help try and bring the crowd over to his side some and even the battle out more. He knows the battle on the road game so u can be sure if he go to url he gonna be prepared and reaction or not it's gonna be crazy. Think his last geechi battle in Compton or run nitty, charron in Europe, eljay in Australia, real deal in Canada or hungry on get u some battle league. It's gonna be crazy!!!
They hate AWard bcuz he stands on his own. This is a perfect example, grown men can't even say what they want without repercussions from the URL
They salty. A ward scares them
A.Ward 30...Surf and Jakk were on the backburner a year ago. Now they yelling URL from the mountain top
S/O A Ward... he made a bunch of VALID POINTS. ALL YOU UP AND COMING BATTLE LEAGUES NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS. THESE GUYS ARE BASICALLY ADMITTING THEY AREN'T TAKING YOU SERIOUS BUT THEY TAKING YOUR MONEY.
Award just went to war with Rum ... these are CLOWNs
“You’re not competing at a high level.. you have 49 rounds; 9 of them matter”- Tsu Surf 😂
who gave jakkboy this confidence? u would lose to award in rbe, url, dannys parellel universe, charlie clips smellalel universe, anywhere cmon bruh
These low grade URL battle rappers salty asf A Ward hotter than they'll ever be. Plus A Ward nice asf!
That nigga surf said I don’t like integrity I like money 🤦🏽♂️
T surf reasoning to them not signing a ward for just one battle is legit uncomfortable for me. That actually hurts the whole sport
Bill always jumpin in some shit talkin... These the reasons Bill career plateaud for the reasons hes stating... hed battle a box of rocks on url... not the way to go
If I was award I wouldn't do it on url the narrative is already góing to be set
only 1 person in this whole conversation could potentially even beat a ward, and thats surf, so all the other haters enjoy your "nba" bench seat and keep watching from the bench
Lol.. They're tryna convince A-Ward, he hasn't been doing well coz he been killing it in other Leagues either than URL.. Haha.. SURF is a BUM 😂🤣😂🤣
These battle rappers should be supporting A Ward & following his lead.
They are just made because they are stuck in those contracts
6:45 sums it all up.
Idc if Real Sikh is joe budden favorite rapper i didnt sleep on his couch 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
TRADE TWORK FOR AWARD!!!!!!!!!!!
A ward beat trez, mackk Myron. Danny Myers, o red, ill will, geechi Gotti, and Charlie clips. These are all big names in the URL, and it matters
Yea but the url stage different regardless
Rather u want to admit it or not
@@legendarydariusledbetter explain lol cus smack there? Y surf choke so much then?
@@legendarydariusledbetter u wish u knew a man gay azz nicca
@@legendarydariusledbetter ill call the cops n get u George floyded lmao
There are arguments for both sides. However, if I was A ward I would keep doing what he's doing. URL's exclusivity model will be one of the reasons of it's undoing. A ward contracting with them would mess up his business model. URL isn't going to be #1 forever. These "smaller" leagues keep growing in size and talent. And A ward was been making the rounds, diversifying his portfolio and raising his stock. So when these leagues match or become bigger than the url (collectively, they might be now) his elevation compounds that much more. Other rappers will follow the same vein. URL will be forced to bend or break to this freelance model.
Also quick thing about diversity in the url. In the high level tsu claims the url to be in. It is very niche almost every round is along the lines of "my tool go blaow," struggle bar, or something about blow. Which is fine to write about, but because of the nature of the material you then get rebuttals like 'this is real life, not rap stories", to the effect of' I'm really like that'. And with that dynamic comes an aggression that blurs the line between real life and bars. Actual grudges, fights, and so much worse. This isn't attractive to newcomers nor a great model to sustain a business. Url don't cannibalize yourself.
I want to share a line to surf from award v homeskool 'You're only effective here'
Where's the rest of the conversation
Surf you got clipped in your own city yall some F ing custers on NBC. YOU GUYS GOT DOUBLE STANDARDS WHEN WE ALL SEEN YOU AND JACK BOTH GET DRAGGED ON STAGE. you beat twork and John John who both been looking medicore gtfoh on NBC.
Surf has so many groupies that just go along with what he says...smh it's disgusting. Bill and Jack are his flunkies
This narrative that award be only battling nobody's had got to stop. Son fire first off and truth be told he smoked all my cuz niggas so surf probably would get 30 as well. With that said if u don't want to count cats like chef trez, real deal, qleen paper, lu Castro, ryda, pt, saint Mic, mad flex, riggz or Mac Myron as somebody's and discredit the fact that he smoked all them fools, and u don't want to count his one rounders against arsonal and clips it would still sound silly to me to hear mf say he only battles nobody's( and he won that frozenberg battle too homie) let's not discredit DNA, Cortez, run nitty, ill will, Danny Myers, illmac, charron, reed dollaz, ness Lee, Bill collector, shotgun Suge, ored and geechi Gotti twice everyone of who in my opinion he beat not to mention his 2 on 2 battles against prep and twerk,... KD and MVP and him and loso vs geechi Gotti and b. Dot which he killed in all of but he did all that well battling all these other "nobodies" so don't claim a lousy resume on his behalf if u don't even know his resume only cause his outshines damn near everyone else's if we're being honest. All that and so much more with less then 3 losses and in my opinion more like 1 or maybe 2 loses total which u can't name many who can say that so I don't see how he wouldn't be labeled one of the goat's url or not especially when he still smoking all them mf too on these other leagues. And I don't want to hear they ain't trying there hardest on a smaller league. Not only is there no such thing as half way crooks but y'all ceing insulting to all them rappers talking like they pulled punches and slacced off on the job rather then give it they best. Hella disrespect and undermine award at the same time. With or without the gas what he spit fire in the small room then it's for on a large stage, on the corner or in the church. Krowd reaction or no kroud reaction heat heat everywhere and award be on fire
Surf can’t have a say in what leagues matter & don’t because he is (from his own admission) employed & a representative of the URL. He is the definition of a conflict of interest so his statements & opinions are all invalid. Listening to him state the URL is the NBA of battle leagues is like going to the casino & letting the dealers gamble your money for you. Y’all let surf big brain y’all every time, lol. Whole time he just a spokesperson for the URL, of course he gonna big them & diminish the value of other leagues, dummies.
He talked to P not Beasley
Listen, these battlers have stop trying to make it seem. A ward haven't battled any tough competition, He done battled Charlie clips, Geechi Gotti twice, ill will, lu Castro, Arsonal etc
Without The url. When half of these battle rappers can't even touch these names. The problem is people let surf. Paint these narratives because he's url golden child
Leave my boy alone all y'all scared he'll smoke you
If it ain’t URL its always second tier. At the end of the day. URL started this whole wave besides fightklub and Grindtime and they aren’t around anymore. A Ward is overrated. He’s not that good.
🤣
Nigga you not good
Tsu surf still tryna get A Ward to battle bums on URL for free *sighh #howfuckingweird I saw don marino arguing with nunn nunn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
Shit is so sad.
Award wins every debate because he’s not on URL and he has url battlers wanting him over there.
If I was a ward I wouldn’t even join these groups and have them talk about me all year
His anticipation to be on url is bigger than his actual career. If he didn't have a url buzz no one would care, same as bdot and loso.
@@madhands9887 facts
Kimbo slice was tyson in the underground fighting. Andnit got him a shot at ufx and he took it and he wasnt as big as a monster or tyson as he was underground. But point is all that nosie he made was for him to get a chance on a stage that MATTERS. Same with all sports and BATTLE RAP . i don't see how yall dont get getting on url stage is a diff level regardless
@@legendarydariusledbetter bruh this ain’t sports y’all equate the two way too much lol
@@spaceghostp6672 nah u simple minded sheep just to slow too understand its ALL JUST ENTERTAINMENT
THESE SUCKAS TURNED HIM OFF SOON AS HE MENTIONED GOD BEING HIS MOTIVATION & THERES NO COMEBACK TO THAT. CANT REBUTTLE REAL. (Even surf had to say that was the devil)
They head hunting award. Don’t do award.
Why? Is he a damn battle rapper or not
Award 30 this convo I must say 😂 ,,,, he just went up against geechi the battler with the most hype right now,,and he did well again arguable won. Don’t matter where he was he put on and gotti came to kill em so he can def hang with the best no matter the platform…..
Dont no about a 30 but he did well bit so did surf
And Ars beat Geechi so what
Surf talkin bout competing at a high level and lost to a female 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 possibly 30
He only battle high levels battlers
Award battle a bunch of no names or does one rounders vs url battlers on small leagues and he ok with that, but won’t battle nun nun yea ok.
Why do jakk talk like he great I never type in jakk boy vs lol
Tsu will tell one battle rapper to not battle aka JC, Chilla etc. And then award out here with CLEAR wins versus, Geechi, Clips, Ill Will etc. And then mad Award won't battle Nunn Nunn.
Tsu surf continue to speaks the facts. Respect to the other Leagues but URL(Smack) is where it matter!!
Surf choked 5 times on url lmao
You’re a dhead for that comment lol
I respect and understand A WARD but he has to get this...
When he battles on these small leagues he has everything to gain and nothing to lose.. thus, the 'big names' he battles have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
If you wanna stack up a bunch of battles/wins under those pretenses that's fine, BUT don't start shitting on the guys who DO compete in the bigger leagues with higher/ leveled stakes - it is not the same.. in my opinion, THAT is where he goes wrong.
You jumping both sides when you say "its some guys in the NBA that cant play overseas" ... either go to their league and find that out or stay in your place and leave them alone.
Surf choked more than 5 times on url.
Jack boy needs to go back to English and learn how to spell and speak properly
Award stay in ya place u not fuccin with guntitles 🏆💪🏾
A.Ward overrated af , Frozenberg made him look corny.
Ward looking bad right now. 🤣
A bunch of ppl talking over him making him look bad?
Everyone else looks bad, not ward. Ward isn’t being understood or allowed to explain his opinion because everyone else wants their opinion as a fact.
It don’t work like that
Lol if u think he looking bad u obviously didn’t listen to this convo!!
If verb stay on this with a ward then 3-0 clear ...all the bouncing round, his stats then race ...naw verb ..pick a point and bomb on him 9/2
they hating on ward so bad