Wiz: “[…] this was actually a very close match” Also Wiz “This character in their base form is 500,000x more powerful than this character max potential.”
People would complain there char is nothing compared to the other char like how they people got heated over superman vs goku two where they said superman completely stomps goku and slot of fans got angry as hell so blame the fans
“ *This match-up was by far one of the closest we’ve ever done, in fact, if we were to run this fight through 100 times, character B would likely win a good 49* “ “ *With that being said, here’s why character A is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x stronger and has every other advantage* “
@@blakeh1721 I watch death battle but I usually skip to the fights because i have read so so many comics and done some power scaling of my own so I just don’t like it but the animations look pretty cool....some times
The best line in Death Battle history: “Fett put up a fight to the best of his ability, but Samus’ superior technology and athletic skill trumped him in *every* way” “While Fett may have been more durable and physically stronger-“
@@shockshplock3480 when I say everywhere I mean every ideashock videos, deathbattle,videos debunking ideashock,luffy scaling videos,Naruto scaling videos(I think) and so on
@@tuglord02 What can I say, I’m pretty active in this community lol. And I’m a big fan of Idea Shock, even if his power scaling is... questionable at times.
@Hollow Donkey well TRIGGER WARNING first off. Basically a while ago there was a guy who was basically obsessed with Ember and her song. He made youtube videos,online posts and various other things dedicated to her. Unfortunately he posted a message of a line from her song I think it was "you should not doubt me,you will remember my name" shortly before he went to school and performed a school shooting. After this ember was pretty much dragged into the mix and a lot of pretty tried to blame her for it in the same way to how video games are blamed for violence.
@@JanAside I'ts true they may not use Ember because of the incident but Death Battle have use Master Chief, Doomguy and Solid Snake, 3 characters that are blame for other shooting's in school incident so who knows maybe they use her
That one is my favorite, mostly because it’s Two boxers going at it, no special flight, lasers and such but two beefy men fighting each other. (And the soundtrack)
also as a sidenote i really like the fact that during the tj vs balrog fight they were able to calculate how much strenght exactly is needed in order to instakill an elephant or send to fly a robot few mts in the air with a punch but then a few episodes before this battle they could have done the same during the tracer vs scout fight by calculating how much strong must be scout in order to instakill a bear or send to fly a heavy weapon guy + minigun 82 feets on the air when he uses his taunt kill instead they just said scout was so incredibly weak that possibly most of his feats are a hoax this includes surviving 4 rockets, surviving lethals amounts of sugar and radiation on his soda, double jumping or surviving that close nuke explosion while covered on bread.
like in digdug vs bomberman(street level vs galaxy level), digdug was featless and had no real abilities nor powers yet it was able to kill bomberman who was able to defeat a boss monster capable of destroying entire galaxies with a single attack also bomberman survived a planetary explosion in the face UNSCATHERED and had many more powers than they show in the battle like the power to become inmune to his own bombs or the ability to pass through solid objects, etc.
Death Battle lied. Tatsumaki had a massive advantage in experience and training, she was about x6 faster, and could output leagues more energy with her telekinesis. Basically, they said it was a close fight, but went and gave every single advantage to Tatsumaki.
@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 What about Wolverine vs Raiden or Spider-Man vs Batman. Those had great animation potential because of the characters abilities. And I don't hate Planet level characters I just find them boring because they don't think they can really work with is big explosion unless they have an interesting character like Sailor Galaxia with a wide arsenal and powers.
I think daredevil vs nightwing is still the closest fight they’ve done. Their pure fighting skill was equal, and daredevil’s powers were matched by nightwing’s gadgets. Sure nightwing could exploit daredevil’s sensitive senses, but it was still incredibly close
>Flash vs Sonic is considered so close the actual question is which character you like more across multiple vs debate websites >DB claims Sonic had zero chance whatsoever Seems about right
@Speedemon So power rangers vs Voltron but most of the db cast like power rangers and most even said dint even know about Voltron mhhhhh just sounds like your bias certain chars don't win
Minor nitpick: They DID give durability values for TJ vs Balrog with the feats of them surviving a large fall (funnily enough you somewhat showed them as well). However, just like the strength advantage, the advantage that Balrog had over TJ was so small that it didn't matter.
@@TheSentientDoor I would say balrog is stronger and has better feats than tj but tj is augmented with cybernetics that negate balrogs feats.Tj just cheated basically again.
@@TheSentientDoor plus glacious beats sub-zero,ryu beats scorpion and their reason for giving him the win is bs,hulk beats doomsday because he has to die before getting his hax abilites he can make a defense but ultimately has to die to get yhe best of it tho,no way peach defeats zelda season 1 sorry,obi-wan not getting fatigued but and can spam the force,while kakashi gets nerfed and can run out of chakra-_- plus why didn't they mention fatigue can kill a jedi in that episode but in yoda vs mickey they do? Biased.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 glacious does beat sub zero, Ryu def stomps Scorpion, Doomsday fights Superman regularly and Hulk can only be angry for so long without his healing factor just giving in, Peach absolutely loses to Zelda, Obi-wan beats Kakashi because suicide moves count as victories plus speed blitz to hell
I'd love to see two videos on Top 10 CLOSEST Death Battles (By your own logic) and Top 10 most UNFAIR Death Battles (by your own logic). I'd like to see your personal opinions on what you think are the closest and most unfair Death Battles
i mean, that's cause when you get that strong writers stop caring about consistency so just go as ridiculously high as possible. So they just choose a different random number, followed by an arbitrary number of zeroes.
Natsu vs Ace was never close in the first place, not just because Natsu could just eat everything Ace could throw at him, but elemental wizards in Fairy Tail are Immune to damage from their own element, with fire being Ace's only weapon he couldn't even hurt Natsu
@@CrazyHand7894 Yeah Sabo would have been the better choice as he would still get the fire powers like Ace but also Haki so can at least do something against Natsu
well, to be fair, Ace did probably have Haki as well. But yea, its not really enough to beat Natsu alone still, especially since not only is Natsu immune to fire, it also heals him and powers him up.
@@mohammadmurie Ace probably also had haki, its just never explicitly said, because it was during the part of the show before luffy knew what haki was so it was mostly hidden from the viewers. That said, Sabo's haki is definitely stronger than what Ace would have had, and he probably would have stood a pretty solid chance against Natsu.
@@eragon78 also, suppose that armament Haki scales to getting hit by literal iron fists, Natsu has taken hits from Gajeel who can turn his' entire body into Iron so even that wouldn't be anything new to Natsu
The Balrog vs TJ Combo one really does sound like a fight that is actually close. After watching the top 10 stomp video you made, its surprising to find a match up that's close like that
I knew Balrog VS TJ Combo was gonna make it into this top 10. I remembered the slight advantage for TJ in strength, speed/mobility and boxing style and Balrog's slight advantage in durability. I loved the aftermaths in this episode.
Here's an idea: Going over the winner of every season (4 and beyond obviously, for reasons you said in these vids) and comparing them to each other to determine who's the strongest character of that season. Dunno if it's as interesting as I think it is but the idea popped in my head.
I feel like Scarlet Witch and Zatanna would prob be on here now. Really close with nigh identical abilities and feats but with minor differences in weaknesses.
they scaled sasuke to 63 zettatons (from the black cards in the corner) and scaled hiei to like 200+ zettatons (And then they divided it by 2 because hiei only scaled to half of the feat) They scaled base naruto to 480 pettatons They "highballed" max ichigo to 440 pettatons
@@Girronki like really at a lowball naruto and ichigo are both planetery ftl+. And there both universal and mftl+ as a highball. Ywatch with almighty is possibly universal. And momoshiki possible created a paralell universe in the novels. Debunks are ichigo never fought ywatch with almighty And momoshikis paralell universe feat could be a mistranslation because the kanji for isekai can be interpreted differently
@@MeteorTribe I haven't watched Naruto in years, and haven't watched Boruto, so he definitely has gotten stronger, but wasn't Naruto's greatest feat the fact he punched the moon?
@@davidlarkin1040 nah, best feat was momoshiki absorbing a star in the novels and naruto at 50% can no cell him. Also momoshiki supposedly created a paralell dimension with a bunch of stars in it. Also naruto best shown feat is him destroying continent sized meteors in the manga
@@davidlarkin1040 Gokus greatest feat wasny even moon level. Going by "feats" is unreliable. Powerscaling is better. Otherwise going by feats, frieza is only planet level cause his best shown feat was blowing up a planet. Meaning even golden frieza isnt beyond planet level amd goku hasnt even blown up a moon before so by feats, the person naruto fought on the moon beats goku by that logic.
I'm honestly surprised Nightmare vs Guts didn't make the list here. It was literally only by classing Gut's experience and durability so highly that he won that fight.
Wally vs Sonic is still REALISTICALLY the closest Death Battle yet. (asied from Meta vs Carolina and maybe a few other low tier characters fighting each other, at least)
There is already a debunk video that's so good, logical, and well thought out, that death battle has no defense against it. Check out The Might Of Geburah "Screwattack’s Archie Sonic Vs Wally West (The Flash) Death Battle Debunked"
@@Bleeperblopper497 that guy that drops bombs defeated a being so powerful that could destroy entire galaxies with a normal attack and destroy the omni-cube also bomberman survived a planetary explosion unscathered so still don't know how a featless guy wich is only good at digging holes was able to kill him considering all the crazy things bomberman has survived i don't thing a normal bomb could kill him like the one on the animation.
also i really like the fact that during the tj vs balrog fight they were able to calculate how much strenght exactly is needed in order to instakill an elephant or send to fly a robot few mts in the air with a punch but then a few episodes before this battle they could have done the same during the tracer vs scout fight by calculating how much strong must be scout in order to instakill a bear or send to fly a heavy weapon guy + minigun 82 feets on the air when he uses his taunt kill instead they just said scout was so incredibly weak that possibly most of his feats are a hoax this includes surviving 4 rockets, surviving lethals amounts of sugar and radiation on his soda, double jumping or surviving that close nuke explosion while covered on bread.
Me: Bro a dude can blow up entire galaxies by just waving his hands. Wiz & Boomstick: Yea but this person saved someone from a fire 50 times. Me: Oh shit I’m sorry bro that guy solos the other dudes galaxy busting verse. *Proceeds to explode from logic overdose*
bomberman: survives a planetary explosion unscathered, defeats a being capable of destroying galaxies and has tons of different powers. death battle: BORING! digdug: he's good at digging holes! death battle: INSTANT WIN!!!!!!!
@@shadowkhiz7455 no, giving how skilled and agile is bomberman on the cartoons (almost like a ninja) i doubt digdug would be even able to touch him also they didn't include some of his strongest abilities such as being able to pass through solid objects or inmunity to his own bombs also if he survive a planetary explosion in the face i doubt alot that bomb that killed him in the db fight would have done any scratch if they just used research.
A note on the TJ vs Balrog match, you stated that "boxers of TJs style are more successful than boxers of Balrog's style" which is incorrect. It's more "boxers of TJ's style have a slight advantage over boxers of Balrog's style".
I belive the battles they went back and forth on the most in production were Link vs. Cloud, Ryu vs. Strider, Deadpool vs. Deathstroke, Yang vs. Tifa, Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye, Hulk vs. Doomsday, Lucario vs. Renamon, Balrog vs TJ, and Nightwing vs Daredevil, with the stand-out being Yang vs. Tifa, which I recall a quote from Ben (the guy who plays Wiz) saying they seriously considered making it a tie because of the sheer inability to figure out who should win.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention Naruto vs Ichigo on here. It’s pretty close, and even if they do purposely overestimate Ichigo’s AP, they also give him the speed advantage.
I don't think it qualifies. Ichigo’s reaction speed was only around 1.5 times faster than Naruto's, and his movement speed was slower than Naruto's reaction. So while Ichigo could blitz it was far from impossible for Naruto to tag him. Especially when he had every single other advantage. They straight up say he has better healing, training, and a broader arsenal. Naruto could counter Ichigo's invisible body, and had better attack power. If we just go off the moon explosion feat VS Ichigo’s highballed attack power, then yeah this could still be considered close since that's only a 1.09 difference. But they follow it up by saying that was Naruto's base form and his stronger forms let him block attacks like moon slice. This puts Naruto's power and durability around 27 trillion megatons according to them, which is around 61.4 times greater than Ichigo’s highballed best of 440 billion megatons. So overall, this was a slight speed advantage VS better training, versatility, durability, and power. And while Nathan had no advantages over Lara, the difference in categories seemed generally closer than anything Ichigo could muster outside of speed.
Feel like Snake vs Fisher was gonna be on here. Sure, Snake has the octo-camo and the whole 'survived a microwave tunnel' thing; but there were counterpoints to those arguments. The octo-camo was only good until Fisher becomes aware of it, at which point his camera setup would render it moot. The feat in the microwave tunnel is impressive, but all it really means is that Snake wouldn't lose his tech to emp-based weaponry. Ultimately, the deciding factor was just that Snake's specializations (hand-to-hand, misdirection) were more useful in this scenario than Fisher's were.
I had a feeling a certain boxing death battle would be on here. And I am happy it was. It truly has a super close analysis that is very interesting to listen to. Perfect, maybe not, but fascinating, absolutely!
I was pleasantly surprised to see Beerus vs. Galaxia on here, and that makes me love it more. I knew nothing about Sailor Moon until that fight, and I now adore Galaxia. I have a thing for god-like evil villainess overlords, sue me...
*you learning about Galaxia* “Oh no, I hope this doesn’t awaken anything in me” But yes I totally get where you’re coming from and it was interesting learning about her as well!
I honestly thought that Hulk vs Doomsday could have made the list if the list allow season 3 episodes, because of what I remember of that episode the reason Doomsday won was because he could outlast Hulk’s anger and in stats they were kind of even Still pretty good video
Here are my top 10 closest Death Battles based on how I powerscaled the characters (whether I agree with the outcome of the episode is irrelevant): 10. Beerus vs Galaxia 9. Meta vs Carolina 8. Folgore vs Sector 7. Black Widow vs Widowmaker 6. TMNT battle royale 5. Ivy vd Orchid 4. Hagar vs Zangief 3. Foxy Mc Cloud vs Bucky O' Hare 2. Nightwing vs Daredevil Honorable mentions: Pokemon battle royale, Red vs Blue, Ben 10 vs Green Lantern, Wally West vs Archie Sonic, Batman vs Ironman, Lex vs Doom 1. Barlog vs Tj Combo.
They didn't account for Snake's borderline insane (although to be fair, easily overlooked) physical feats, such as swimming fast enough to keep up with an amphibious war machine and reach shore right after or dodging a surprise bullet point blank under cover of rain, or the possibility that he physically outclasses the man who caught a Metal Gear's foot without being crushed (Big Boss in Peace Walker) so when it comes to close quarters and gunfights, it's not really close at all
I knew TJ vs Balrog was had to the the closest, really it was minuscule stat differences (TJ was a *tiny* bit stronger at highest shown, Balrog survived a slightly higher fall though they both could likely take more), with TJ winning due to experience, fighting style, and unquantifiable healing factor and speed bump making him faster in the "berserker" mode when sufficiently damaged.
_(Wonder Woman VS She-Ra)_ I mean... does giving the first one access to every single feat and all the experience from her 65+ year (IRL low estimate) history and only allowing the other to draw off _one_ series (and flatly denying both the recent one and tie-ins from the same era) sound remotely fair? I mean, I like She-Ra, but right as soon as I saw the match-up, I knew she was basically cannon fodder.
The number one makes sense. That's a fight where it could quite easily go either way depending on if like....Balrog had a better night's sleep and ate better the day before the fight.
I think it would be interesting to see a list of the top 10 series in Death Battle that have gone the longest without a combatant or top 20 weakest Death Battle combatants by their own logic.
Number one weakest death battle combatant, from the research I've done, is McGruff the crime dog. Stats wise, he's a bloodhound. Kit wise, he has a force field for blocking children and a time stop that doesn't let him do anything. Funnily enough, his opponent, Smoky Bear, is my pick for entrance to world beyond city tier. Can become the size of a mountain with no strength feats in said form or can stop time (and can scrub backwards through time while in the time stop!) while wielding building busting strength in his base form which is pretty lethal to stronger characters who have to block. Theoretically, though with no confirmation but also no denial, he could combine those two options.
So I have an idea for a video, a top 10 or top 20 list of fights which would either be stomps or much closer thanks to newer death battles? Like Beerus vs Galaxia was on your list here, but if we take info from Broly vs Hulk then suddenly Beerus would stomp in raw power? Like the list could be, "Top ten/twenty death battles which were wrong by future battles?"
Hulk v Doomsday would be the better fit, the power gap between the HUlk they put against Doomsday and the Hulk they buffed for Broly is even more than the gap between Shadow and Shadow.
That's the thing with Sailor Moon matchups most of the popular ones are either clear, and obvious curbstomps in the Sailor Moon character's favor, or a clear, and obvious curbstomp in the other character's favor.
@@Diabetic64 I'll explain (comic spoilers below): *Both are elite warriors of an alien race that conquers planets. *Both have son's that end up surpassing them in terms of power. *Both of their son's were raised as humans. *Both end up getting a redemption arc. *Both end up rebelling against their superiors. *Both of their races suffered a massive extinction event. *Both were caught up in the middle of their home-world's destruction. *Both of their species have evolved to fight and adapt in various harsh environments. *Both of their species can grow more powerful via DNA (Saiyan's have zenkai boosts while Viltrumites gain strength with age). I think there's a couple more connections but you get the gist.
Off topic but you should do "Death battles with the best voice actors/actress's" Because I just rewatched a couple of them including beerus vs galaxia and Beerus's voice actor did a fantastic job
Flash vs archie sonic...is really the reason I hate death battle's logic,they'll go so far to give the character they want win conditions when nerfing he other one.
Remember how they said because a gag scene where Mario picked up a castle that in that scene was just as tall as him but they gave it the weight of the castle he was just in Mario was stronger? Remember when they said Kirby was planet level by citing a minigame with a max score of 210 megatons? Remember when they said because a different Power Ranger in a different series threw a car the Tigerzord could move at the speed of a bullet?
There is already a debunk video that's so good, logical, and well thought out, that death battle has no defense against it. Check out The Might Of Geburah "Screwattack’s Archie Sonic Vs Wally West (The Flash) Death Battle Debunked"
Actually it was somewhat close basically while Jason had the better gear, better powers, better strength, and better durability, DB outright states Leo held the advantages in speed, training, and experience along with stating that Jason having the better powers kind of negates Leo's better training advantage due to the fact Jason when he's morphed gains full mastery of all forms of martial arts.
I feel like Fox vs Bucky should have at least been an honorable mention. Both had a lot of counter on some of the other's traits (down to their personnalities, according to Wiz), and the only thing that gave Fox the win is his greater experience, specifically in 1v1 situations.
To fair and honest, all of the battles are hard to quantify. That's the whole thing about fiction. Rarely can you quantify fiction in reality. As an example of what can be quantified; The power armor from the Fall Out series can be quantified. The reason is we actually have the exoskeletons. All they need is the armor plating, and to perfect it. Please google the Sarcos Guardian XO, for those who think I am just making things up.
And sometimes gameplay mechanic gets mixed with canon story like genji frickin deflects a blackhole in game but fails to deflect all arrows thrown into him in canon
The battle I have the hardest time excepting is Ichigo VS Naruto. Honestly, I didn't care who actually won the fight, even if they gave us one with proper research and Naruto still won I'd be completely fine with it. Here's where I have an issue though, I may not know Naruto as well as Bleach (though I did watch the entire series minus Boruto), but I've watched Bleach and its entirety probably over 10 times, lol. They boasted how they overestimated his power to prove a point, but thing is they were hilariously underestimating his real potential and weren't taking into consideration several moments that would have given the audience an idea of his growth in power. While not necessarily easy to measure most of the time, it was worth noting and they missed a ton of these easy to spot details. Below I'll explain what I mean, its a long read though, you have been warned, ha ha ha. To start, they were quick to point out Naruto having experience fighting even at a young age as he was training to be a ninja. Yet they failed to mention Ichigo's past at all. Ichigo trained at a martial arts dojo as a little kid. Then as he grew up he was picked on for his orange hair, and he got into countless fights growing up. Through all this he became a remarkable fighter capable of taking down 3 street punks without breaking a sweat in the first episode and in a flashback we learn he also beat up 5 teenagers in a gang all by himself to save his friend Chad. This is all before he has any powers at all and its a feat equal to some of the greatest martial artists alive. Fighting multiple opponents is very difficult, usually you're lucky if you can best 2, but being victorious against 5 opponents is nearly impossible in real life. Fast forward to Ichigo getting powers. We see in the first season that he is new to his Soul Reaper powers and needs the guidance of Rukia to fight hollows and begin learning how to wield his untapped potential. By the end of season 2 he's fighting on par with Captain level opponents. To compare this to Naruto, Ichigo's growth in strength happened in the span of a couple of weeks versus what Naruto accomplished over his whole childhood and teenage life. He also manages to learn Bankai basically the final stage in a Soul Reaper's training in 3 days which is insane considering how he just awakened his powers not that much earlier, especially when considering its a skill that usually takes 10 years of training and only a handful of Soul Reapers mostly Captains and very few exceptional others have learned. Compare this to Naruto's training where it took him 4 and a half weeks to learn how to use the Rasengan, cheating might I add by using shadow clones to add an extra set of hands (at least it was clever). Regardless, they both learn advanced tricks, but Ichigo does so at a much faster pace and with a mere fraction of the time to learn how. Ichigo's hollow powers also increase the more he uses them thereby being a continuous boost in power. His mask changes it's pattern to reflect Ichigo's hollow strength. At first it only has 2 red marks on the top left of the mask. By the time he fights Grimjow the mask displays a full pattern marking on the entire left side. And after he fights Ulquiorra the pattern is on both sides of his face. Ichigo also notices something is different, stating that the mask feels heavier. Next I would like to point out a few things about Ichigo's fight with Ulquiorra. First let's look at the size of Las Noches (the building in Hueco Mundo, land of the hollows). It was so massive Ichigo and friends saw it from many miles away and as they ran towards it, they mentioned it didn't seem like they were getting any closer. Uryu stated the building must be massive if they were so far from it running for miles and never feeling like they were progressively getting any closer. Inside, it literally has atmosphere. The cloud painted dome was thought to be an actual sky by Uryu which goes to show how large the structure actually was. I would imagine the building itself was as big as some cities (or at least that's my guess when considering the above misconceptions of its size by Ichigo's friends). So this building is absolutely massive is the big take away here and that's important going forward with my assessment of the sheer destructive power displayed by Ichigo and Ulquiorra. Ulquiorra mentions that Espada 4 and above cannot release their Zanpakuto within Las Noches nor are any Espada allowed to use a gran rey cero in the building either, saying that both have potential of destroying the building altogether. Ulquiorra unleashes his first form, then he uses his Zanpakuto to release a secret second form multiplying his power yet again many times over. He then displays his very own cero stronger than the gran rey cero named the cero oscuras. He uses this ultimate beam against a fully hollowfied Ichigo who uses a normal cero to not only block it but overcome it. Ulquiorra throws a spear stronger than his cero oscuras. After dodging it the spear is sent miles away from Las Noches and explodes. The explosion is almost as big as the building itself, and Ichigo literally stops the second one with his bare hand. The way Ichigo completely dominated Ulquiorra in this fight means he was immeasurably stronger, but the truly surprising thing is Ichigo wasn't even at full power in that battle. Unohana mentioned that his coat only had a sleeve remaining. Seeing how his coat was part of his Bankai, this fight against Ulquiorra was only a fraction of his true potential. Going back to the size of Las Noches. If the first released form or a gran rey cero is enough to destroy the structure, then we could conclude that his second form could destroy a building bigger than Las Noches. Then using his cero oscuras would have even greater destructive power than destroying the already bigger Las Noches building previously mentioned. My point is using Las Noches as a starting point was already underestimating Ichigo's full potential, especially because I'm just getting started with blowing this starting point comparison Death Battle used in the video completely out of the water. So if his spear is even stronger than that wouldn't you have to multiply this destructive force again. Then considering Ichigo literally bare handed the attack and slapped Ulquiorra arround even in his second form, wouldn't Ichigo be many times greater than the spear? And Ichigo was only at a fraction of his power because his Bankai was only a sleeve meaning (according to Unohana this was probably only 15%~20% his full potential at the time). You see where I going with this? How many times have we doubled the size of Las Noches to fully measure Ichigo's full power in this paragraph? Not sure what multiplier you would have to use to truly figure this one out, but using the base size of Las Noches to measure Ichigo was a literal insult to his overall potential, meaning all that destructive force Death Battle conveniently left out was only a fraction of his full potential. Ichigo is an absolute power-house and this short sighted analysis greatly underestimates his overall potential. Unohana also mentioned that with only a sleeve his power was the equivalent of a Captain's power. Earlier in the series in the second season, Captain Ukitake compared Ichigo's spirit energy to that of a Captain. At the time his outfit wasn't torn in half. If his power was equal to a Captain's back then with a full uniform and later only a fraction of his power measured by only wearing a sleeve was equal to a Captain's power, it means Ichigo's base form is also increasing throughout the series. This means taking a snapshot of his power earlier in the series, but then using his last form at the end of Bleach for the fight isn't a great place to start a multiplier. Ichigo's base form is constantly increasing meaning you need to account for this before applying a multiplier for a proper measurement of Ichigo's full potential. Ichigo is much much stronger than they gave him credit for and my long list of items details many of the things they didn't account for in their analysis of his abilities and overall power. Also notice this only covers the anime which hasn't yet concluded (seeing how its about to start up again to tell the "Thousand Year War" arc). I didn't read the manga so this is as much of Ichigo's missed potential I can manage to point out. I'm sure there is more beyond the anime that someone else could elaborate on. Clearly not much thought went into the Bleach side of this argument. I've only watched the entirety of Naruto one time, so I can't verify if they missed anything on that show as I'm not as familiar with how to evaluate power like I can with Bleach (pretty much knowing most of the episodes line for stinking line at this point).
Can somebody explain to me in the dumbest way possible, HOW does somebody with a gun near PERFECTLY capable of shooting somebody mid air passing through somebody LOST to a person good on martial arts
Next video should be top 10 most requested characters for death battle not to be in one (Deku, Luffy, martian manhunter, Rayman, shante, silver etc) it could be a way to celebrate Po's inclusion into death battle, as a character that we thought would never be in death battle
The problem with Luffy is that the way things have been going in One Piece, the analysis on Luffy would be incomplete within the year, possibly within 6 months. He has been undergoing some explosive power growth in the last three arcs (not counting Zou since it's basically just a transition). Jeez its been 6 years since Dressrosa ended but still. He has been on the precipice of power boosts that would make any death battle analysis feel incomplete for the last 6 years.
Given that The Eternals movie is coming out this year, plus he has gotten a resurgence in the comics. I would love to see Dane Whitman aka the Black Knight in a DB. Now I'm not sure who would be a good opponent for Dane, as Dane's stats, and skills are he's basically peak human, a master martial-artist basically he has fought and stalemated some of Marvel's top H2H fighters/Martial Artists like Iron Fist, Daredevil, Wolverine, Cyclops, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Blade, Captain America, and Shang-Chi, he's a scientific genius especially with tech, biology and genetics, and he's officially recognized as the greatest swordsman in the entire Marvel Multiverse yes even master swordfighters like The Swordsman, Gamora, and Blade have stated that Dane is the better swordfighter, and he does have some minor mystical-esque abilities granted by the Ebony Blade such as a accelerated healing factor, the ability to sense mystical/magical energies/creatures, a mystical bond to the Ebony Blade similar to Thor's bond with his hammer which allows Dane to summon it from anywhere and protects him from the mystical sword itself, access to knowledge from past ancestors who wielded the Ebony Blade, and pseudo-immortality basically Dane can "die" but if somebody cuts himself/herself on the Ebony Blade the act of blood touching it will bring Dane back to life, along with the fact the only thing that can put down Dane for good is the Obsidian Dagger a Dagger forged from the same Star-Meteorite as the Ebony Blade. And for equipment I'm going with Dane's current equipment set from the comics that being his jet-black Elven-crafted Armor, and Shield he got from the Lady of the Lake, and his iconic Ebony Blade a mystical sword that can cut through almost anything the only things it can't cut through are certain mystical metals, and it comes with a curse of bloodlust/madness. And no I'm not even thinking about pitting Dane against Sir Justin the Shining Knight from DC Comics.
Your #1 pick is also, IMO, the best episode of death battle, largely because it is a match where either of them could legitimately win, so you are actually kept in suspense as to the outcome. While I do agree with the outcome, on a different day it could definitely have gone to Balrog. They are a perfect matchup! With Batman vs BP, yeah, Batman really had no way to get through that suit. Unlike Superman and Kryptonite, it has no easily exploitable weakness Batman can use to compensate for the power difference.
“It was very hard to find 10 that were close”
That really puts in perspective how pointless Wiz saying each fight being close is
Wiz: “[…] this was actually a very close match”
Also Wiz “This character in their base form is 500,000x more powerful than this character max potential.”
People would complain there char is nothing compared to the other char like how they people got heated over superman vs goku two where they said superman completely stomps goku and slot of fans got angry as hell so blame the fans
“ *This match-up was by far one of the closest we’ve ever done, in fact, if we were to run this fight through 100 times, character B would likely win a good 49* “
“ *With that being said, here’s why character A is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000x stronger and has every other advantage* “
@@shockshplock3480 I mean you want another superman vs goku 2 situation shock
@@gameuniverse5973 There will thankfully never be a situation like that one again lmao
*I hope*
Ya know, you are actually the guy who got me back INTO Death Battle ironically enough.
I can agree
@@blakeh1721 I watch death battle but I usually skip to the fights because i have read so so many comics and done some power scaling of my own so I just don’t like it but the animations look pretty cool....some times
@@mcbuttstuff i dont agree with some of their scaling n shit too but the Broly vs Hulk animation was fuckin sick asf
The best line in Death Battle history:
“Fett put up a fight to the best of his ability, but Samus’ superior technology and athletic skill trumped him in *every* way”
“While Fett may have been more durable and physically stronger-“
I see u every where lol
@@tuglord02 to be fair I am on this channel a lot lol
@@shockshplock3480 when I say everywhere I mean every ideashock videos, deathbattle,videos debunking ideashock,luffy scaling videos,Naruto scaling videos(I think) and so on
@@tuglord02 What can I say, I’m pretty active in this community lol. And I’m a big fan of Idea Shock, even if his power scaling is... questionable at times.
@@shockshplock3480 LOL same his power scaling is kinda sus sometimes 👀
“This is an extremely close fight but we’re here to countdown the closest in Death Battle history!”
- Wiz
Hi Marceline, im hoping you will fight Ember Mclain in Death Battle some day XD
@@allotiranog6074 sadly I dont think embers ever getting into db thanks to the controversy surrounding her.
@Hollow Donkey well TRIGGER WARNING first off.
Basically a while ago there was a guy who was basically obsessed with Ember and her song. He made youtube videos,online posts and various other things dedicated to her. Unfortunately he posted a message of a line from her song I think it was "you should not doubt me,you will remember my name" shortly before he went to school and performed a school shooting. After this ember was pretty much dragged into the mix and a lot of pretty tried to blame her for it in the same way to how video games are blamed for violence.
@@JanAside I'ts true they may not use Ember because of the incident but Death Battle have use Master Chief, Doomguy and Solid Snake, 3 characters that are blame for other shooting's in school incident so who knows maybe they use her
@@JanAside TF
That closeness is why Balrog vs TJ is still my favorite Death Battle.
Yeah, it really has everything
That one is my favorite, mostly because it’s Two boxers going at it, no special flight, lasers and such but two beefy men fighting each other.
(And the soundtrack)
It’s a really great death battle. Not my favorite of all time but it’s probably my favorite for season 4.
@@thegunnshow1907 I also enjoy how it has a very defined theme
My only issue is how much more realistic Combo’s model is compared to Balrog’s, other than that it’s nearly perfect.
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Balrog vs TJ Combo was one of the best fucking death battles ever
And that is a fact
Facts
also as a sidenote i really like the fact that during the tj vs balrog fight they were able to calculate how much strenght exactly is needed in order to instakill an elephant or send to fly a robot few mts in the air with a punch but then a few episodes before this battle they could have done the same during the tracer vs scout fight by calculating how much strong must be scout in order to instakill a bear or send to fly a heavy weapon guy + minigun 82 feets on the air when he uses his taunt kill instead they just said scout was so incredibly weak that possibly most of his feats are a hoax this includes surviving 4 rockets, surviving lethals amounts of sugar and radiation on his soda, double jumping or surviving that close nuke explosion while covered on bread.
When the triangle theory only works their because he has lost to weaker opponents in cannon specifically because of that. Like Dudley
Preach
You clearly didn’t factor Sanji’s ability to not give a damn about his leg being blown up
Lee was kicked to death by a One legged man
Anime pain tolerance is fucking insane tbh
@@BrendenTait8858 *gets skull crushed arms broken and legs bent backwards* then goes in a date with my waifu and eats sandvich
Sanji has an obscene pain tollerance when the chips are down...He'd probably reflect in the irony of now being much like his adoptive father.
People in One Piece really can't find a fuck to give, huh
Everyone monkey until Death Battle says that a street level character and a world breaking character are a close match up
Who?
@@floatingf8783 idk. It’s just as a joke, but it’d be funny if they did that in the future
It may not be street vs planet level, but we did get Shazam vs Captain Marvel, aka let’s watch a max planet buster fight a casual uni buster
like in digdug vs bomberman(street level vs galaxy level), digdug was featless and had no real abilities nor powers yet it was able to kill bomberman who was able to defeat a boss monster capable of destroying entire galaxies with a single attack also bomberman survived a planetary explosion in the face UNSCATHERED and had many more powers than they show in the battle like the power to become inmune to his own bombs or the ability to pass through solid objects, etc.
@@gillettematch3188 bruh that was like the first season, I suppose your mad Rogue beat Wonder Woman
I’m actually kinda surprised that Mob VS Tatsu wasn’t even mentioned. They quite literally said that it’s about a 40%-60%, if not closer.
They lie to you
Death Battle lied. Tatsumaki had a massive advantage in experience and training, she was about x6 faster, and could output leagues more energy with her telekinesis.
Basically, they said it was a close fight, but went and gave every single advantage to Tatsumaki.
@@sparkydragon98 oof
@@sparkydragon98 doesn't the writer himself determine that both characters are evenly matched?
@@merah5033 I wouldn't know, but that clearly wasn't the case in this and many other fights here...
Number 1 also had possibly the most realistic setting too, which blows my mind.
I like death battles with street level characters because there more likely to be a closet match and not just a city buster vs a world buster
I don't like Death Battles with street level characters because a lot of them have almost no animation potential.
@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 What about Wolverine vs Raiden or Spider-Man vs Batman. Those had great animation potential because of the characters abilities. And I don't hate Planet level characters I just find them boring because they don't think they can really work with is big explosion unless they have an interesting character like Sailor Galaxia with a wide arsenal and powers.
@@motmot_is_watching *a lot* of them. Not all of them. Also Aang vs Edward isn't street level.
@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 I never said Ed vs Aang
@@motmot_is_watching I guess I read it wrong.
10:18
That line delivery still has no right to be as good as it is!
I think daredevil vs nightwing is still the closest fight they’ve done. Their pure fighting skill was equal, and daredevil’s powers were matched by nightwing’s gadgets. Sure nightwing could exploit daredevil’s sensitive senses, but it was still incredibly close
>Flash vs Sonic is considered so close the actual question is which character you like more across multiple vs debate websites
>DB claims Sonic had zero chance whatsoever
Seems about right
@Speedemon Nah they said that flash only had two ways to win against archie they even said so and that most chars would lose against archie
@Speedemon So power rangers vs Voltron but most of the db cast like power rangers and most even said dint even know about Voltron mhhhhh just sounds like your bias certain chars don't win
@Speedemon Power Rangers vs Voltron debunks your theory.
I think they actually said that Sonic had the power advantage (in Super/Ultra Sonic I mean).
@@gameuniverse5973 so sonic can’t use his reality warping wish powers against wally, why can’t he just wish for the speed force to be gone
Minor nitpick: They DID give durability values for TJ vs Balrog with the feats of them surviving a large fall (funnily enough you somewhat showed them as well). However, just like the strength advantage, the advantage that Balrog had over TJ was so small that it didn't matter.
@@TheSentientDoor I would say balrog is stronger and has better feats than tj but tj is augmented with cybernetics that negate balrogs feats.Tj just cheated basically again.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 yeah KI has better feats than SF in general I guess
@@michaelwhitmire9015 Actually, remember that TJ ripped the cybernetics out of himself
@@TheSentientDoor plus glacious beats sub-zero,ryu beats scorpion and their reason for giving him the win is bs,hulk beats doomsday because he has to die before getting his hax abilites he can make a defense but ultimately has to die to get yhe best of it tho,no way peach defeats zelda season 1 sorry,obi-wan not getting fatigued but and can spam the force,while kakashi gets nerfed and can run out of chakra-_- plus why didn't they mention fatigue can kill a jedi in that episode but in yoda vs mickey they do? Biased.
@@michaelwhitmire9015 glacious does beat sub zero, Ryu def stomps Scorpion, Doomsday fights Superman regularly and Hulk can only be angry for so long without his healing factor just giving in, Peach absolutely loses to Zelda, Obi-wan beats Kakashi because suicide moves count as victories plus speed blitz to hell
According to wiz, every single fight is number 1
Except Ragna vs Sol and the Megaman Battle Royale.
@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100and Spongebob vs Aquaman, and I guess Saitama vs Popeye
Also Deadpool vs the mask
I'd love to see two videos on Top 10 CLOSEST Death Battles (By your own logic) and Top 10 most UNFAIR Death Battles (by your own logic). I'd like to see your personal opinions on what you think are the closest and most unfair Death Battles
what
@@SpywareInstaller ?
He already has.
Ohhhhhhh. I get what he meant. Hes discussing HIS logic, not death battles logic
@@SpywareInstaller *his* logic, not Death Battle's.
10:38 Glad to see my all time favorite battle crack the top 2. Even if I was a big Galaxia fan I love this one to death.
Yeah 😁
The stronger the two characters are, the more of a stomp is it in one of them's favor. (generally speaking)
i mean, that's cause when you get that strong writers stop caring about consistency so just go as ridiculously high as possible. So they just choose a different random number, followed by an arbitrary number of zeroes.
Also need to take Popularity into account
I'm convinced it's especially prevalent in marvel vs dc because they're caught in a dick measuring contest to begin with.
@@Saltyoven
I suppose but DC characters are generally stronger and more OP
Natsu vs Ace was never close in the first place, not just because Natsu could just eat everything Ace could throw at him, but elemental wizards in Fairy Tail are Immune to damage from their own element, with fire being Ace's only weapon he couldn't even hurt Natsu
In that battle they should've used Sabo instead. That way, he could have other means to hurt Natsu and thus the battle would've been a lot closer.
@@CrazyHand7894 Yeah Sabo would have been the better choice as he would still get the fire powers like Ace but also Haki so can at least do something against Natsu
well, to be fair, Ace did probably have Haki as well. But yea, its not really enough to beat Natsu alone still, especially since not only is Natsu immune to fire, it also heals him and powers him up.
@@mohammadmurie Ace probably also had haki, its just never explicitly said, because it was during the part of the show before luffy knew what haki was so it was mostly hidden from the viewers.
That said, Sabo's haki is definitely stronger than what Ace would have had, and he probably would have stood a pretty solid chance against Natsu.
@@eragon78 also, suppose that armament Haki scales to getting hit by literal iron fists, Natsu has taken hits from Gajeel who can turn his' entire body into Iron so even that wouldn't be anything new to Natsu
hearing Matpat in the Black Widow vs Widowmaker triggered my fight or flight
The Balrog vs TJ Combo one really does sound like a fight that is actually close. After watching the top 10 stomp video you made, its surprising to find a match up that's close like that
I knew Balrog VS TJ Combo was gonna make it into this top 10. I remembered the slight advantage for TJ in strength, speed/mobility and boxing style and Balrog's slight advantage in durability. I loved the aftermaths in this episode.
Here's an idea: Going over the winner of every season (4 and beyond obviously, for reasons you said in these vids) and comparing them to each other to determine who's the strongest character of that season. Dunno if it's as interesting as I think it is but the idea popped in my head.
I feel like Scarlet Witch and Zatanna would prob be on here now. Really close with nigh identical abilities and feats but with minor differences in weaknesses.
they scaled sasuke to 63 zettatons (from the black cards in the corner) and scaled hiei to like 200+ zettatons
(And then they divided it by 2 because hiei only scaled to half of the feat)
They scaled base naruto to 480 pettatons
They "highballed" max ichigo to 440 pettatons
Its almost like there researchers dont look back at there own notes and in turn contradict themselves
@@Girronki like really at a lowball naruto and ichigo are both planetery ftl+. And there both universal and mftl+ as a highball.
Ywatch with almighty is possibly universal.
And momoshiki possible created a paralell universe in the novels.
Debunks are ichigo never fought ywatch with almighty
And momoshikis paralell universe feat could be a mistranslation because the kanji for isekai can be interpreted differently
@@MeteorTribe I haven't watched Naruto in years, and haven't watched Boruto, so he definitely has gotten stronger, but wasn't Naruto's greatest feat the fact he punched the moon?
@@davidlarkin1040 nah, best feat was momoshiki absorbing a star in the novels and naruto at 50% can no cell him. Also momoshiki supposedly created a paralell dimension with a bunch of stars in it. Also naruto best shown feat is him destroying continent sized meteors in the manga
@@davidlarkin1040 Gokus greatest feat wasny even moon level. Going by "feats" is unreliable. Powerscaling is better. Otherwise going by feats, frieza is only planet level cause his best shown feat was blowing up a planet. Meaning even golden frieza isnt beyond planet level amd goku hasnt even blown up a moon before so by feats, the person naruto fought on the moon beats goku by that logic.
This channel is finally getting the recognition it deserves, great work nemesis keep it up!
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*After a planet level literally stepping on wall level character*
I'm honestly surprised Nightmare vs Guts didn't make the list here. It was literally only by classing Gut's experience and durability so highly that he won that fight.
You would've known that it wouldn't be on here if you listened to the rules.
The rules don’t allow it to be here. And the argument itself is worse now because Guts got way stronger and Nightmare didn’t
Wally vs Sonic is still REALISTICALLY the closest Death Battle yet.
(asied from Meta vs Carolina and maybe a few other low tier characters fighting each other, at least)
There is already a debunk video that's so good, logical, and well thought out, that death battle has no defense against it.
Check out The Might Of Geburah "Screwattack’s Archie Sonic Vs Wally West (The Flash) Death Battle Debunked"
@@HyperSonicXtreme let me guess, you didn't like the result so you tried to find people who disagreed with the result as well to confirm your bias.
@@handtomouth4690 Let me guess, you believe in Death Battles terrible research, good to know.
Yes they even stated while yeah Archie Sonic could bend fate/reality to his will, Wally straight up breaks fate/reality.
@@derrickhaggard And proof for that?
it still surprises me how a street level (digdug) was able to beat a galaxy level (bomberman)
Why is a guy that drops bombs considered Galaxy Level? How does he have the ability to bust a Galaxy?
@@Bleeperblopper497 that guy that drops bombs defeated a being so powerful that could destroy entire galaxies with a normal attack and destroy the omni-cube also bomberman survived a planetary explosion unscathered so still don't know how a featless guy wich is only good at digging holes was able to kill him considering all the crazy things bomberman has survived i don't thing a normal bomb could kill him like the one on the animation.
Because Season 1.
Season 1 was wack.
also i really like the fact that during the tj vs balrog fight they were able to calculate how much strenght exactly is needed in order to instakill an elephant or send to fly a robot few mts in the air with a punch but then a few episodes before this battle they could have done the same during the tracer vs scout fight by calculating how much strong must be scout in order to instakill a bear or send to fly a heavy weapon guy + minigun 82 feets on the air when he uses his taunt kill instead they just said scout was so incredibly weak that possibly most of his feats are a hoax this includes surviving 4 rockets, surviving lethals amounts of sugar and radiation on his soda, double jumping or surviving that close nuke explosion while covered on bread.
Me: Bro a dude can blow up entire galaxies by just waving his hands.
Wiz & Boomstick: Yea but this person saved someone from a fire 50 times.
Me: Oh shit I’m sorry bro that guy solos the other dudes galaxy busting verse. *Proceeds to explode from logic overdose*
depends on the fire because odin once extenquish a multiversal level fire before that was going to burn through the world tree
@@gameuniverse5973 That is true
bomberman: survives a planetary explosion unscathered, defeats a being capable of destroying galaxies and has tons of different powers.
death battle: BORING!
digdug: he's good at digging holes!
death battle: INSTANT WIN!!!!!!!
@@gillettematch3188 Didn't Digdug not inflate Bomber to the point he imploded though? Not really the same thing as getting hit with a bomb.
@@shadowkhiz7455 no, giving how skilled and agile is bomberman on the cartoons (almost like a ninja) i doubt digdug would be even able to touch him also they didn't include some of his strongest abilities such as being able to pass through solid objects or inmunity to his own bombs also if he survive a planetary explosion in the face i doubt alot that bomb that killed him in the db fight would have done any scratch if they just used research.
A note on the TJ vs Balrog match, you stated that "boxers of TJs style are more successful than boxers of Balrog's style" which is incorrect. It's more "boxers of TJ's style have a slight advantage over boxers of Balrog's style".
These are pretty fun to watch. Cool concept for a video series.
Balrog vs TJ is one of my favorites and honestly one of the best Death Battles to date.
I belive the battles they went back and forth on the most in production were Link vs. Cloud, Ryu vs. Strider, Deadpool vs. Deathstroke, Yang vs. Tifa, Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye, Hulk vs. Doomsday, Lucario vs. Renamon, Balrog vs TJ, and Nightwing vs Daredevil, with the stand-out being Yang vs. Tifa, which I recall a quote from Ben (the guy who plays Wiz) saying they seriously considered making it a tie because of the sheer inability to figure out who should win.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention Naruto vs Ichigo on here. It’s pretty close, and even if they do purposely overestimate Ichigo’s AP, they also give him the speed advantage.
I don't think it qualifies. Ichigo’s reaction speed was only around 1.5 times faster than Naruto's, and his movement speed was slower than Naruto's reaction. So while Ichigo could blitz it was far from impossible for Naruto to tag him. Especially when he had every single other advantage. They straight up say he has better healing, training, and a broader arsenal. Naruto could counter Ichigo's invisible body, and had better attack power. If we just go off the moon explosion feat VS Ichigo’s highballed attack power, then yeah this could still be considered close since that's only a 1.09 difference. But they follow it up by saying that was Naruto's base form and his stronger forms let him block attacks like moon slice. This puts Naruto's power and durability around 27 trillion megatons according to them, which is around 61.4 times greater than Ichigo’s highballed best of 440 billion megatons. So overall, this was a slight speed advantage VS better training, versatility, durability, and power. And while Nathan had no advantages over Lara, the difference in categories seemed generally closer than anything Ichigo could muster outside of speed.
@@MasuxAnderson ichigo solos the verse lmao
@@donut9306 facts plus bro all it needs to beat the naruto verse is vasto lorde Ichigo or soul society arc Ichigo lol
Feel like Snake vs Fisher was gonna be on here. Sure, Snake has the octo-camo and the whole 'survived a microwave tunnel' thing; but there were counterpoints to those arguments. The octo-camo was only good until Fisher becomes aware of it, at which point his camera setup would render it moot. The feat in the microwave tunnel is impressive, but all it really means is that Snake wouldn't lose his tech to emp-based weaponry. Ultimately, the deciding factor was just that Snake's specializations (hand-to-hand, misdirection) were more useful in this scenario than Fisher's were.
Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro.... It was a draw so wouldn't that be the most fair fight lol?
I have never even heard of deathbattle, but that won't stop me from watching your vids.
They’re great, been my childhood for a while. Suggest you try them!
And Balrog vs Combo is easily my favorite fight. Everything about it slaps, and the premise rules
Same yeah
I had a feeling a certain boxing death battle would be on here. And I am happy it was. It truly has a super close analysis that is very interesting to listen to. Perfect, maybe not, but fascinating, absolutely!
In Balrog vs tj combo they did give them durability feats and Balrog nearly edges out.
Congratulations on 11k subscribers and I bet that in a week it should be 12k
I was pleasantly surprised to see Beerus vs. Galaxia on here, and that makes me love it more. I knew nothing about Sailor Moon until that fight, and I now adore Galaxia. I have a thing for god-like evil villainess overlords, sue me...
*you learning about Galaxia* “Oh no, I hope this doesn’t awaken anything in me”
But yes I totally get where you’re coming from and it was interesting learning about her as well!
Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor was a stomp even with their logic
I honestly thought that Hulk vs Doomsday could have made the list if the list allow season 3 episodes, because of what I remember of that episode the reason Doomsday won was because he could outlast Hulk’s anger and in stats they were kind of even
Still pretty good video
Nothing below season 4.
@@pesciisthebestcharacter5100 I’m an idiot, I already fix the comment
@@M2_Unknown ok.
2 of my favorite episodes where here and their both shown fighter using natural power Sword and Muscle increases
Here are my top 10 closest Death Battles based on how I powerscaled the characters (whether I agree with the outcome of the episode is irrelevant):
10. Beerus vs Galaxia
9. Meta vs Carolina
8. Folgore vs Sector
7. Black Widow vs Widowmaker
6. TMNT battle royale
5. Ivy vd Orchid
4. Hagar vs Zangief
3. Foxy Mc Cloud vs Bucky O' Hare
2. Nightwing vs Daredevil
Honorable mentions: Pokemon battle royale, Red vs Blue, Ben 10 vs Green Lantern, Wally West vs Archie Sonic, Batman vs Ironman, Lex vs Doom
1. Barlog vs Tj Combo.
If this list was made today, Bill VS Discord would be at the top.
Oh absolutely
What about sam fisher vs solid snake? That seemed pretty close to me.
They didn't account for Snake's borderline insane (although to be fair, easily overlooked) physical feats, such as swimming fast enough to keep up with an amphibious war machine and reach shore right after or dodging a surprise bullet point blank under cover of rain, or the possibility that he physically outclasses the man who caught a Metal Gear's foot without being crushed (Big Boss in Peace Walker) so when it comes to close quarters and gunfights, it's not really close at all
@@mercury2157 this video is about close battles from the information that DB gave exclusively
He said season 3 and above
I knew TJ vs Balrog was had to the the closest, really it was minuscule stat differences (TJ was a *tiny* bit stronger at highest shown, Balrog survived a slightly higher fall though they both could likely take more), with TJ winning due to experience, fighting style, and unquantifiable healing factor and speed bump making him faster in the "berserker" mode when sufficiently damaged.
“D’you guys want me to do a video on”-
YES
I was about to say "WHER'S SCARLET WITCH VS ZATANNA?????????" then realize this was released two years ago and that db was released a year
If it’s only including DB from Season 4 onward, I understand why Fox vs Bucky didn’t make the list.
yeah, do that at your own leisure; thanks. these videos are nice and we enjoy them
_(Wonder Woman VS She-Ra)_
I mean... does giving the first one access to every single feat and all the experience from her 65+ year (IRL low estimate) history and only allowing the other to draw off _one_ series (and flatly denying both the recent one and tie-ins from the same era) sound remotely fair? I mean, I like She-Ra, but right as soon as I saw the match-up, I knew she was basically cannon fodder.
The number one makes sense. That's a fight where it could quite easily go either way depending on if like....Balrog had a better night's sleep and ate better the day before the fight.
Let’s be honest, DB says MUs are close matchups to make the angry fanboys feel better.
Yes… it helps me cope with watching my favorite characters get brutally murdered 😢
I think it would be interesting to see a list of the top 10 series in Death Battle that have gone the longest without a combatant or top 20 weakest Death Battle combatants by their own logic.
Number one weakest death battle combatant, from the research I've done, is McGruff the crime dog. Stats wise, he's a bloodhound. Kit wise, he has a force field for blocking children and a time stop that doesn't let him do anything. Funnily enough, his opponent, Smoky Bear, is my pick for entrance to world beyond city tier. Can become the size of a mountain with no strength feats in said form or can stop time (and can scrub backwards through time while in the time stop!) while wielding building busting strength in his base form which is pretty lethal to stronger characters who have to block. Theoretically, though with no confirmation but also no denial, he could combine those two options.
@@jamrenzee Dont have any speed feats dont have strenght feats or durability all of his stats are just none
So I have an idea for a video, a top 10 or top 20 list of fights which would either be stomps or much closer thanks to newer death battles?
Like Beerus vs Galaxia was on your list here, but if we take info from Broly vs Hulk then suddenly Beerus would stomp in raw power? Like the list could be, "Top ten/twenty death battles which were wrong by future battles?"
Hulk v Doomsday would be the better fit, the power gap between the HUlk they put against Doomsday and the Hulk they buffed for Broly is even more than the gap between Shadow and Shadow.
That's the thing with Sailor Moon matchups most of the popular ones are either clear, and obvious curbstomps in the Sailor Moon character's favor, or a clear, and obvious curbstomp in the other character's favor.
Great video! Thanks for uploading!
Technically the closest death battle ever is chuck Norris and segata because they are still going
Who’s watching after Courage and Scooby gave us the official closest yet?
Whats your opinion on Homelander vs Omniman
I think that they might do that instead of Homelander vs Tighten
I feel like Omni-Man Vs Bardock has more thematic connections imo.
@@lynxfresh5214 ive heard that but how
@@Diabetic64 I'll explain (comic spoilers below):
*Both are elite warriors of an alien race that conquers planets.
*Both have son's that end up surpassing them in terms of power.
*Both of their son's were raised as humans.
*Both end up getting a redemption arc.
*Both end up rebelling against their superiors.
*Both of their races suffered a massive extinction event.
*Both were caught up in the middle of their home-world's destruction.
*Both of their species have evolved to fight and adapt in various harsh environments.
*Both of their species can grow more powerful via DNA (Saiyan's have zenkai boosts while Viltrumites gain strength with age).
I think there's a couple more connections but you get the gist.
@@lynxfresh5214 Honestly i think bardock kinda stomps omni man no cap
Just hope Tighten vs Homelander or Gru vs Megamind happens
Off topic but you should do "Death battles with the best voice actors/actress's" Because I just rewatched a couple of them including beerus vs galaxia and Beerus's voice actor did a fantastic job
Flash vs archie sonic...is really the reason I hate death battle's logic,they'll go so far to give the character they want win conditions when nerfing he other one.
Remember how they said because a gag scene where Mario picked up a castle that in that scene was just as tall as him but they gave it the weight of the castle he was just in Mario was stronger? Remember when they said Kirby was planet level by citing a minigame with a max score of 210 megatons? Remember when they said because a different Power Ranger in a different series threw a car the Tigerzord could move at the speed of a bullet?
There owned by warner bros. It is what it is
@@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104 That has been debunked so many times, please stop with that lame reasoning
Luthor was literally about to beat Doom in their battle until he pulled out the mind transfersion that literally gave him the high ground.
That was just for dramatic purposes.
I don't think that was fair
Flash vs Sonic can be described in one sentence as this:
"You're not just wrong, you're stupid."
-The Cat in the Hat
Don't be salty, wally has all the hax posible
I still think Galaxia would have beat Beerus but again, by THEIR math, it's consistent.
By THEIR, DEATH BATTLE'S, math.
They did Archie Sonic dirty af. He ran so fast that he broke the multiverse. He was in base and it was an accident. So they really lowballed him.
There is already a debunk video that's so good, logical, and well thought out, that death battle has no defense against it.
Check out The Might Of Geburah "Screwattack’s Archie Sonic Vs Wally West (The Flash) Death Battle Debunked"
Actually they do give durability stats for number 1 based on how far they both physically fell. Both were pretty close in that regard as well.
Oh boy Jason vs Leo where?/s
2003!Terra could totally beat broly/s
Honestly these just highlight some flawed research for all of these.
Actually it was somewhat close basically while Jason had the better gear, better powers, better strength, and better durability, DB outright states Leo held the advantages in speed, training, and experience along with stating that Jason having the better powers kind of negates Leo's better training advantage due to the fact Jason when he's morphed gains full mastery of all forms of martial arts.
I feel like Fox vs Bucky should have at least been an honorable mention. Both had a lot of counter on some of the other's traits (down to their personnalities, according to Wiz), and the only thing that gave Fox the win is his greater experience, specifically in 1v1 situations.
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I watch a lot of youtube videos and this is one of them.
To fair and honest, all of the battles are hard to quantify. That's the whole thing about fiction. Rarely can you quantify fiction in reality. As an example of what can be quantified; The power armor from the Fall Out series can be quantified. The reason is we actually have the exoskeletons. All they need is the armor plating, and to perfect it. Please google the Sarcos Guardian XO, for those who think I am just making things up.
And sometimes gameplay mechanic gets mixed with canon story like genji frickin deflects a blackhole in game but fails to deflect all arrows thrown into him in canon
Yeah I was hoping for one like this!
The battle I have the hardest time excepting is Ichigo VS Naruto. Honestly, I didn't care who actually won the fight, even if they gave us one with proper research and Naruto still won I'd be completely fine with it. Here's where I have an issue though, I may not know Naruto as well as Bleach (though I did watch the entire series minus Boruto), but I've watched Bleach and its entirety probably over 10 times, lol. They boasted how they overestimated his power to prove a point, but thing is they were hilariously underestimating his real potential and weren't taking into consideration several moments that would have given the audience an idea of his growth in power. While not necessarily easy to measure most of the time, it was worth noting and they missed a ton of these easy to spot details. Below I'll explain what I mean, its a long read though, you have been warned, ha ha ha.
To start, they were quick to point out Naruto having experience fighting even at a young age as he was training to be a ninja. Yet they failed to mention Ichigo's past at all. Ichigo trained at a martial arts dojo as a little kid. Then as he grew up he was picked on for his orange hair, and he got into countless fights growing up. Through all this he became a remarkable fighter capable of taking down 3 street punks without breaking a sweat in the first episode and in a flashback we learn he also beat up 5 teenagers in a gang all by himself to save his friend Chad. This is all before he has any powers at all and its a feat equal to some of the greatest martial artists alive. Fighting multiple opponents is very difficult, usually you're lucky if you can best 2, but being victorious against 5 opponents is nearly impossible in real life.
Fast forward to Ichigo getting powers. We see in the first season that he is new to his Soul Reaper powers and needs the guidance of Rukia to fight hollows and begin learning how to wield his untapped potential. By the end of season 2 he's fighting on par with Captain level opponents. To compare this to Naruto, Ichigo's growth in strength happened in the span of a couple of weeks versus what Naruto accomplished over his whole childhood and teenage life. He also manages to learn Bankai basically the final stage in a Soul Reaper's training in 3 days which is insane considering how he just awakened his powers not that much earlier, especially when considering its a skill that usually takes 10 years of training and only a handful of Soul Reapers mostly Captains and very few exceptional others have learned. Compare this to Naruto's training where it took him 4 and a half weeks to learn how to use the Rasengan, cheating might I add by using shadow clones to add an extra set of hands (at least it was clever). Regardless, they both learn advanced tricks, but Ichigo does so at a much faster pace and with a mere fraction of the time to learn how.
Ichigo's hollow powers also increase the more he uses them thereby being a continuous boost in power. His mask changes it's pattern to reflect Ichigo's hollow strength. At first it only has 2 red marks on the top left of the mask. By the time he fights Grimjow the mask displays a full pattern marking on the entire left side. And after he fights Ulquiorra the pattern is on both sides of his face. Ichigo also notices something is different, stating that the mask feels heavier.
Next I would like to point out a few things about Ichigo's fight with Ulquiorra. First let's look at the size of Las Noches (the building in Hueco Mundo, land of the hollows). It was so massive Ichigo and friends saw it from many miles away and as they ran towards it, they mentioned it didn't seem like they were getting any closer. Uryu stated the building must be massive if they were so far from it running for miles and never feeling like they were progressively getting any closer. Inside, it literally has atmosphere. The cloud painted dome was thought to be an actual sky by Uryu which goes to show how large the structure actually was. I would imagine the building itself was as big as some cities (or at least that's my guess when considering the above misconceptions of its size by Ichigo's friends). So this building is absolutely massive is the big take away here and that's important going forward with my assessment of the sheer destructive power displayed by Ichigo and Ulquiorra.
Ulquiorra mentions that Espada 4 and above cannot release their Zanpakuto within Las Noches nor are any Espada allowed to use a gran rey cero in the building either, saying that both have potential of destroying the building altogether. Ulquiorra unleashes his first form, then he uses his Zanpakuto to release a secret second form multiplying his power yet again many times over. He then displays his very own cero stronger than the gran rey cero named the cero oscuras. He uses this ultimate beam against a fully hollowfied Ichigo who uses a normal cero to not only block it but overcome it. Ulquiorra throws a spear stronger than his cero oscuras. After dodging it the spear is sent miles away from Las Noches and explodes. The explosion is almost as big as the building itself, and Ichigo literally stops the second one with his bare hand.
The way Ichigo completely dominated Ulquiorra in this fight means he was immeasurably stronger, but the truly surprising thing is Ichigo wasn't even at full power in that battle. Unohana mentioned that his coat only had a sleeve remaining. Seeing how his coat was part of his Bankai, this fight against Ulquiorra was only a fraction of his true potential.
Going back to the size of Las Noches. If the first released form or a gran rey cero is enough to destroy the structure, then we could conclude that his second form could destroy a building bigger than Las Noches. Then using his cero oscuras would have even greater destructive power than destroying the already bigger Las Noches building previously mentioned. My point is using Las Noches as a starting point was already underestimating Ichigo's full potential, especially because I'm just getting started with blowing this starting point comparison Death Battle used in the video completely out of the water. So if his spear is even stronger than that wouldn't you have to multiply this destructive force again. Then considering Ichigo literally bare handed the attack and slapped Ulquiorra arround even in his second form, wouldn't Ichigo be many times greater than the spear? And Ichigo was only at a fraction of his power because his Bankai was only a sleeve meaning (according to Unohana this was probably only 15%~20% his full potential at the time). You see where I going with this? How many times have we doubled the size of Las Noches to fully measure Ichigo's full power in this paragraph? Not sure what multiplier you would have to use to truly figure this one out, but using the base size of Las Noches to measure Ichigo was a literal insult to his overall potential, meaning all that destructive force Death Battle conveniently left out was only a fraction of his full potential. Ichigo is an absolute power-house and this short sighted analysis greatly underestimates his overall potential.
Unohana also mentioned that with only a sleeve his power was the equivalent of a Captain's power. Earlier in the series in the second season, Captain Ukitake compared Ichigo's spirit energy to that of a Captain. At the time his outfit wasn't torn in half. If his power was equal to a Captain's back then with a full uniform and later only a fraction of his power measured by only wearing a sleeve was equal to a Captain's power, it means Ichigo's base form is also increasing throughout the series. This means taking a snapshot of his power earlier in the series, but then using his last form at the end of Bleach for the fight isn't a great place to start a multiplier. Ichigo's base form is constantly increasing meaning you need to account for this before applying a multiplier for a proper measurement of Ichigo's full potential.
Ichigo is much much stronger than they gave him credit for and my long list of items details many of the things they didn't account for in their analysis of his abilities and overall power. Also notice this only covers the anime which hasn't yet concluded (seeing how its about to start up again to tell the "Thousand Year War" arc). I didn't read the manga so this is as much of Ichigo's missed potential I can manage to point out. I'm sure there is more beyond the anime that someone else could elaborate on. Clearly not much thought went into the Bleach side of this argument. I've only watched the entirety of Naruto one time, so I can't verify if they missed anything on that show as I'm not as familiar with how to evaluate power like I can with Bleach (pretty much knowing most of the episodes line for stinking line at this point).
I knew balrog vs tj combo would be high on the list
I loved Balrog vs. Combo, I had the SNES Killer Instinct Game and Sabrewulf and Combo were my favorite characters.
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Dare to be Stupid by Weird Al Yankovic
I may be wrong, but the new Dimitri vs. Guts was also super close
If only this was more modern...
It's kind of surprising Prime All-might verses Might Guy is not on here
Are you playing Weird Al "Dare to be Stupid" in the background😊
Super surprised that scarlet witch vs my girlfriend(zatana) didn’t make it in
Can somebody explain to me in the dumbest way possible, HOW does somebody with a gun near PERFECTLY capable of shooting somebody mid air passing through somebody LOST to a person good on martial arts
“By their own logic” so, every battle they do according to wiz?
If this was made 2 years later bill vs discord would be number 1
Prob Beerus vs Galaxia (just a guess)
(Edit yep it was number 2 haha very nice)
Next video should be top 10 most requested characters for death battle not to be in one (Deku, Luffy, martian manhunter, Rayman, shante, silver etc) it could be a way to celebrate Po's inclusion into death battle, as a character that we thought would never be in death battle
The problem with Luffy is that the way things have been going in One Piece, the analysis on Luffy would be incomplete within the year, possibly within 6 months. He has been undergoing some explosive power growth in the last three arcs (not counting Zou since it's basically just a transition). Jeez its been 6 years since Dressrosa ended but still. He has been on the precipice of power boosts that would make any death battle analysis feel incomplete for the last 6 years.
Given that The Eternals movie is coming out this year, plus he has gotten a resurgence in the comics. I would love to see Dane Whitman aka the Black Knight in a DB.
Now I'm not sure who would be a good opponent for Dane, as Dane's stats, and skills are he's basically peak human, a master martial-artist basically he has fought and stalemated some of Marvel's top H2H fighters/Martial Artists like Iron Fist, Daredevil, Wolverine, Cyclops, Black Panther, Hawkeye, Blade, Captain America, and Shang-Chi, he's a scientific genius especially with tech, biology and genetics, and he's officially recognized as the greatest swordsman in the entire Marvel Multiverse yes even master swordfighters like The Swordsman, Gamora, and Blade have stated that Dane is the better swordfighter, and he does have some minor mystical-esque abilities granted by the Ebony Blade such as a accelerated healing factor, the ability to sense mystical/magical energies/creatures, a mystical bond to the Ebony Blade similar to Thor's bond with his hammer which allows Dane to summon it from anywhere and protects him from the mystical sword itself, access to knowledge from past ancestors who wielded the Ebony Blade, and pseudo-immortality basically Dane can "die" but if somebody cuts himself/herself on the Ebony Blade the act of blood touching it will bring Dane back to life, along with the fact the only thing that can put down Dane for good is the Obsidian Dagger a Dagger forged from the same Star-Meteorite as the Ebony Blade. And for equipment I'm going with Dane's current equipment set from the comics that being his jet-black Elven-crafted Armor, and Shield he got from the Lady of the Lake, and his iconic Ebony Blade a mystical sword that can cut through almost anything the only things it can't cut through are certain mystical metals, and it comes with a curse of bloodlust/madness. And no I'm not even thinking about pitting Dane against Sir Justin the Shining Knight from DC Comics.
Super Sonic was defeated in a fight by Dark Oak.
That Why TJ combo vs buffalo in my favorite fight because it's so close, they should have more fights like that
Another vid to make my day💕
Your #1 pick is also, IMO, the best episode of death battle, largely because it is a match where either of them could legitimately win, so you are actually kept in suspense as to the outcome. While I do agree with the outcome, on a different day it could definitely have gone to Balrog. They are a perfect matchup!
With Batman vs BP, yeah, Batman really had no way to get through that suit. Unlike Superman and Kryptonite, it has no easily exploitable weakness Batman can use to compensate for the power difference.
Pinkie pie vs deadpool and Blake vs mikasa were fair or close
I was thinking might guy vs all might. Nonetheless a great video.
Lara didn’t ‘body’ Nathan in every category. In fact, they both held very, very slight advantages and disadvantages over each other in every category.