The importance of the resistance in South Carolina during the Revolutionary War is not spoken enough of. Without these brave Carolinians we very well would be living in a much different country. Their exploits must never be forgotten.
I grew up in South Carolina, and I have heard stories of the Swamp Fox since I was a kid. I used to love driving by Francis Marion University, because I knew we were getting close to the beach!
Hey babycakes, learn to get hooked on phonics. Is English not your first language? If you are a "decedent" then you are dead person. If you are a "descendant", then your spelling is so far off you deserve no accolades for your forebears.
I have few heroes,but,Francis Marion is one. My ancestor served with Marion,after victory ,was paid in English money and 500 acres of land,by the state of South Carolina.
I'm blessed to say I am a direct descendent of Francis Marion. While that is nice, it means nothing for all of the people whom fought to make our country what it is. I'm beyond thankful.
I'm honored to say one of my ancestors William Voyles served under Francis Marion The Swamp Fox in the Carolinas. He wa. captured at Camden, fought at Kings Mountain and fought in the Battle of Cowpens. He was rewarded for his service with a land grant in Cabarrus Co., NC.
Land grants were how the bankrupt United States paid American Revolution veterans for their service depending on time served and rank attained. Some land was seized from loyalists who fled to England after the war. Ohio was settled by American Revolution veterans receiving land grants although the Wyandot Indians did not agree with the government giving their land away. The Treaty of Greenville in 1795 forced the Wyandot Indians to abandon Ohio and relocate to "Indian Territory" which later became the state of Indiana.
@@MarkL-we8uk Robert Rogers would be the most accurate. US Army Rangers got their name from Rogers Rangers because they wanted something more American than Commando in WWII.
Modern US Army Rangers hail their roots with Men like Francis "The Swamp Fox" Marion! God Bless Our Fore Fathers! Edit: dang Bill O'Reilly mentions this at the end of the show...thought I was being smart here lol. RLTW!
Intrepidity.. I learnt a new word. I have become somewhat fascinated by all these colonial and frontier wars.. Brilliant stuff and it makes it all the more real when relatives of the men who fought there comment on here..
There are some good parts of this video. One of the points made that is particularly important was Marion's desire to avoid wanton bloodshed so that Patriots and Loyalists could come together again after the war. The recreation of the tower used at Fort Watson was well done; one could make a comparison between that tower and the ones Alexander the Great used against Tyre. Marion's men suffered heavily at Eutaw Springs, a battle that Gates called the bloodiest he fought. And Marion's actions were crucial to the Patriots' ultimate victory. The video does not make clear that Tarleton set the Richardson house on fire to draw Marion out and, when that did not work, went after Marion; this was the chase that led Tarleton to call Marion the "swamp fox." Nor was it shown that Gabriel died when Marion had him and others of his group reconnoiter the town of Georgetown. Finally, Greene was more prepared to work with Marion than Gates, he did have some trepidations about soldiers trained in unconventional tactics. For its shortcomings, though, this episode is well done.
Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion was not the only partisan leader in South Carolina during the summer and fall of 1780 that kept the British in check. There was also Thomas "Gamecock" Sumter in the backcountry, as well as Andrew "Wizard Owl" Pickens, and William Richardson Davie to name just a few. These men commanded mounted militiamen sometimes as few as 20 or 30, and other times in the hundreds, and they did a number of the British and Loyalist supplies and outposts keeping Cornwallis from marching north well into late September.
That's the trouble with letting only a few people write history.Few people know about Bernardo de GALVEZ gov.of Louisiana HEslso led forces stopping the British .
Marion was not near Cowpens, not even close... He was splashing around in the low country swamps with Light Horse Henry Lee. Nathaniel Green had split his small army into two separate groups. Green stayed with the eastern portion and Daniel Morgan headed west to mastermind the battle at Cowpens...
This episode of the series has Marion Wearing a tricorn hat when in fact he is recorded as preferring what was called a jockey cap, with the signet of South Carolina on the brim, and a horse tail at the rear.
The REAL narration begins at about 4:30. You're welcome ;) (And.. if you'll watch very closely ... you'll see snippets of a documentary hidden between a non-stop, torrential, cascading waterfall of commercials.)
And a very selective history it is… They omit several key battles both victories and losses…. This series does little to educate. True history buffs will be disappointed as I am in this loosely told rendition…
My ancestor too. Don't know if he fought with Marion but was captured with the militia at Charleston. He had served as a continental regular in earlier campaigns but had gone with North Carolina militia to the relief of Charleston. They released the militia and he served at Ramsours Mills and the defense of Mecklenburg. By the time of the Battle at Eutaw he was with the S.Carolina State troops. They paid better.😏
Dont know if he ever served with Marion but I had an ancestor who served as a regular in the continentals under Benjamin lincoln, served a time in the N.Carolina militia after his continental enlistment, was captured at Charleston, released, then went on to serve as adjutant of the horse in the S.carolina State troops under Pickens. Fought at the courthouse. Name of Charlee Taylor Reese. Went on to become an indian trader with the Cherokee. Thats how I got to Oklahoma. In his 50s he joined Andy Jackson at the horse shoe. Wounded twice, once in the Revolution and seriously wounded in a mop up action after the horse shoe. Greetings! Good to know that descendants of the folks my ancestors served with and rubbed shoulders with are out there. Good health to you.
@@larryreese6146 Charlee Taylor Reese! Thank you kindly! And here we are fighting for out Freedom again! And We will prevail again in their Names and BLOOD THEY SHED FOR All of US!!! Amen!
@@kiradelarochefoucauld7499 yes ma'am, and Charles' father is buried in Poplar Tent Cemetery near Mecklenberg and recognized as one of the signers of the controversial Mecklenberg Resolves. His name was David and all his sons served the patriot cause.
My ancestors were haliwa saponi- from eastern n.c - my great great granpa was in the yemasse war n.c archives showed 16 scouts of cherokee yemassase and adodpted tuscorora did provide help to the militia in s.c n.c and g.a
They skipped right over the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. That engagement mattered more than Eutaw Springs, although Geurilla style tactics were used there as well. At Guilford Courthouse, Daniel Morgan's Riflemen invented the role of the modern day sniper.
I think Morgan's sharp shooters were used at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777. "Morgan placed marksmen at strategic positions, who then picked off virtually every officer in the advance company. "
I am reading The Swamp Fox by John Oller, and in his book he states Francis Marion wasn't at Guilford Courthouse. Thus that is why it is not shown in this video.
@@carywest9256 This is true. Greene relied on Marion and the other eastern guerillas to strike at Cornwallis's lines of communication, and then attack the Loyalist outposts left exposed by the Guilford Court House campaign.
I believe they glossed over the reason for the man's wife hiding, for I heard they would take not only food and livestock but a woman as well. (Giving quarter to soldiers can be denied in our Constitution as well as unwarranted searches and seizures.)
They always portray Cornwallis as an old man but was actually younger than Marion. They did Tarlton age correct for once. The Disney show had the ages of these men all messed up. A very good book about Marion was done by John Oller and there is a audio of it on TH-cam.
What got me to laughing was Bill Nye (the Science Guy), a 'man' with a BS in Mechanical Engineering commenting on the history, psychology, philosophy and tactics/strategy of war!!! WHAT a commentator!
Peter Sinkler, my ancestor served with Marion, was betrayed by his brother in law, died of Typhus in the Exchange building. Had his plantation destroyed, brother in law was awarded land in Nova Scotia for his betrayal.
play at 125% to make it sounds better (120% would probably be closer to the original, but youtube doesn't have that option) *slowed recordings avoid being taken down due to copyright
Tribute to American Veterans, Swamp Fox on YOU TUBE is also very good. Early American history even I did not know! I think John Wayne and Jim Morrison MIGHT be related to this famous patriot.
Negative. The Rangers view Col. Rogers of the French and Indian War as their founding Father. It is his instructions to his Rangers which you will find in the Ranger handbook. There was however a Military prep School in Alabama named in honor of Francis Marion, Marion Military Institute, until the mid 1990's.
James Wells to a point this is true. It becomes problematic when you realize Rogers fought with the British in the Revolution. Incidentally, Rogers was a Major during the French and Indian War. The Colonel rank did not apply until he was fighting with the British in the Revolution.
Francis Marion did not fight at either Cowpens or Guilford Courthouse. Daniel Morgan was the American general at Cowpens and Nathaniel Greene was the American general at Guilford Courthouse.
@@oscargrouch7962 I did not say he did. But if you are telling the history of one man, you must at least mention what was happening around him in his time. Otherwise the history of one man makes no sense. Further, it was one of Marion's tactics, employed by Morgan at Cowpens and then later by Greene in Greensboro that won one battle, and turned the other Pyrrhic for the enemy. For both reasons, both of these battles are relevant to Marion's story.
@@kennedymcgovern5413 Read the title again; the video is about Francis Marion not Cowpens or Guilford Courthouse. Morgan did not use Marion's tactics at Cowpens. Morgan used Morgan's tactics at Cowpen's. Marion's tactics were to hit and run and escape before getting trapped. Morgan was trapped at Cowpens between Tarleton and a cliff with a river at its base and had to do a defense in depth because the field was too narrow to deploy all of his soldiers at the same time. Tarleton never trapped Marion. Tarleton allegedly said, "As for this old fox, the Devil himself could not catch him." Francis Marion was called the "Swamp Fox". Greene used Morgan's tactic, not Marion's tactic, by putting the militia up front as skirmishers at Guilford Courthouse to force the Brits to fire their volley prematurely. The only way both battles are relevant to Marion's story is that they were both during the American Revolution.
I quit drug and cut medicine as well. My colleagues were less healthy than the patients. Typically fat, stressed, and rich on their second or third trophy wife. I went into acupuncture medicine. I worked only 6 months of 12 months for 40 years. My old colleagues and their families are my patients. Go figure..
So they met at mussel shoals and with John Sevier in command marched to kings mountain where they handed defeat to the british, Sevier went on to become the first governor of Tennessee and have Sevier county named after him.
@@therealerictatkinson8311 There were certainly slave owners among the over mountain men, however, most Southern Appalachian counties voted against succession precisely because they were against the slave powers. I think it’s safe to assume at least a majority were against slavery. It may have been for economic reasons not moral ones in many cases but I don’t believe he is mistaken.
🗡🐴🦊...very different from the olde 1959 -1960 Walt Disney Series...his brigands are protrayed as a guerrilla cavalry...not so much infantry, really Patriot/Rebel Horse thieves more than anything else ...perhaps Disney intended to save Fort Watson, and Eutaw Springs for a 2nd season ...which never came...
When the British captured South Carolina, they attacked Spanish possessions in Florida, and executed a small group of Spanish officers who had been observers in Charleston. The Spanish then officially began supporting the American rebels.
The British never captured South Carolina. They had a few fortifications and Charleston. Spain actually delayed declaring war on Britain because they were currently fighting the Spanish-Portuguese War. They did so after that ended. They also shipped material and grant loans since 1776 through New Orleans.
I’d like to bring to your attention to 2 key omissions. How can you talk about the revolutionary war in South Carolina without examining the battle of CowPens? Yorktown was not the end of the war. It continued on. It’s true that Cornwallis was gone but British troops remained…
A few little lies are found here in this program. The founding father of the Rangers was Robert Rogers in the French and Indian War. Any one who knows Colonial History knows that.
You are so right. I say all the time, Daniel Morgan is the most important American you have never heard of. God Bless Daniel Morgan, Timothy Murphy, and Morgan's Rifle Corps at Saratoga. And God Bless Daniel Morgan, Howard's Continentals, Washington's Light Dragoons, and Picken's Militia at Cowpens. To hell with, Burgoyne, Fraser, Cornwallis, and Tarleton. Daniel Morgan is truly a military genius.
@@1stVARifleman yep, he knew what he was doing, and if it hadn't been for Kings Mountain and Cowpens and Daniel Greene holding the army together there wouldn't have been a Yorktown.
@@1stVARifleman my ancestors were down that way. They did not take part at Kings Mountain or Cowpens but they were at several other places, including the defense of Mecklenburg and at the courthouse. My ancestor grandfather served as a regular during the first part of the war, was discharged and went to the defense of Charleston, was captured and released. He then served in the militia and finally ended up in the S.Carolina State Troops as adjutant of the horse. He acted as cavalry under William Washington at the courthouse. With the end of the war in the Carolinas, he set out for the Cherokee Nation as a trader. Now in his 50s he joined Andrew Jackson and fought at Horseshoe Bend. He was wounded 3 times in battle, the last time in a mop up action after Horseshoe Bend. It was a very serious wound. He was compensated for that wound and was pensioned as a Revolutionary War vet posthumously. He died in his 60s and was buried somewhere in Maury County Tennessee. So, you see, I'm a little partial to Southern efforts during our bid for independence.
It's pretty obvious the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson had to have been based on the Marion. Recalling the movie it's full of similarities. I think Gibson's character bares the only fictitious name.
Oh no, not bill nye the know nothing science guy. I thought I was watching a serious Legends and Lies. Now I have my doubts about the authenticity of this video??????????
This is not accurate history. Marion didn’t “drive” cornwallis to Yorktown, Cornwalis was ordered there by his superiors, to meet brittish ships to new york. Of course the french navy cut off the brittish ships, leaving cornwalis trapped.
Like all Fox productions of this era: It plays fast-and-loose with the facts and does NOT present anything near a complete picture and instead simply pushes the agenda they establish in the first 30 seconds: "Marion was THE genius that "invented" guerrilla warfare and everyone else was a fool (no matter how untrue that may be).
Lousy history. Marion was just one of many guerrilla rangers who fought the way Americans had been fighting since Benjamin Church in King Phillip’s War in the late 1600s.
Marion (descendant of French besides as its name suggests), father of the modern guerrilla? O_o False of course. He only copied what the French did 20 years before on the same North American soil during the "7 Years War" or "French-Indians War" for you. Modern guerrilla warfare invented by the French with the help of their Indian allies 20 years before. French guerrilla which allowed France and French troops to hold a war in North America for several years where they were nevertheless fighting 1 French against 10 English and red lobsters of which you were part then eh the future "US WASPs" including even a certain George Washington... :p And despite that, 20 years later, France (the Kingdom of France then) was financially ruined itself, the French lost 10,000 of their soldiers (yes 10,000 French died for your creation, there is never had only Lafayette, an enormous blood spilled for you especially in this time (18th century) and by a country which was not really concerned and which nothing obliged to intervene directly) to give you your independence. Because please let's stop the first of the lies to correspond to the title of this Fox-News serie: it is really the super-power of this time which was France and especially its Navy which ultimately won your Revolution. Proof that the French are not resentful. 😛
And I do believe that WE AMERICANS, with help from some Allied Forces, LIBERATED THE FRENCH FROM GERMAN RULE!! The Nazi’s had plowed thru France very quickly
And then, this 'creation' went to Normandy, kicked ass, & gave the French their whole country back. Which those French surrendered after 30 days. You're welcome. BTW, it says in the vid that Marion learned his tactics while being in the French & Indian war. Where he no doubt taught the French a few lessons.
I wouldnt say plagiarized. They based his character on a combination of Francis Marion , Thomas Sumter and Daniel Morgan..Marion had quite a good many slaves and you cannot have a hero slave owner in a modern view of that era..
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines You've never had spell check throw in a wrong word. Take a pill dude. I wasnt correcting you just adding in a few more facts.
@@trevorfuson715 I understood you just suck at grammar lol. And if you look at The PAtriot,a good I would say 90 percent if Frances Marion. So,yes, they did plagiarize his life.
The importance of the resistance in South Carolina during the Revolutionary War is not spoken enough of. Without these brave Carolinians we very well would be living in a much different country. Their exploits must never be forgotten.
Co. John and Jane Black Thomas 1st Spartan Reg. my grandparents.
My 7th grandfather was one of General Daniel Morgan’s closest men . Charles D Grim. Winchester Virginia
Francis Marion is my 6th Great Uncle
I'm not sure exactly how many greats, but he's my many-greats uncle as well
Nice. 💙
Do you want a plaque?
I only have one uncle, I think he’s great too.
I had a relative that fought with him. Several Brabhams were named Frances Marion , Frances or Maruon.
I grew up in South Carolina, and I have heard stories of the Swamp Fox since I was a kid. I used to love driving by Francis Marion University, because I knew we were getting close to the beach!
I am a decident of John Marion. I'm just now learning of this part of our history!!
SALUTE!🇺🇸🇲🇫
Hey me too!
Hey babycakes, learn to get hooked on phonics. Is English not your first language? If you are a "decedent" then you are dead person. If you are a "descendant", then your spelling is so far off you deserve no accolades for your forebears.
Descendant.
I have few heroes,but,Francis Marion is one. My ancestor served with Marion,after victory ,was paid in English money and 500 acres of land,by the state of South Carolina.
Two of my ancestors fought with Marion as well. Capt. Daniel Sparks and Scout Andrew Hunter. Glad to know you.
I’m a Thomas family member, Col John and Jane Thomas Spartan Reg. America’s first sniper team.
I'm blessed to say I am a direct descendent of Francis Marion. While that is nice, it means nothing for all of the people whom fought to make our country what it is. I'm beyond thankful.
cool, did he acquire any african slaves? how many?
My ancestors also served with marion,after victory they were paid nothing by the state of south Carolina 🌴🌙
I'm honored to say one of my ancestors William Voyles served under Francis Marion The Swamp Fox in the Carolinas. He wa. captured at Camden, fought at Kings Mountain and fought in the Battle of Cowpens.
He was rewarded for his service with a land grant in Cabarrus Co., NC.
Land grants were how the bankrupt United States paid American Revolution veterans for their service depending on time served and rank attained. Some land was seized from loyalists who fled to England after the war.
Ohio was settled by American Revolution veterans receiving land grants although the Wyandot Indians did not agree with the government giving their land away. The Treaty of Greenville in 1795 forced the Wyandot Indians to abandon Ohio and relocate to "Indian Territory" which later became the state of Indiana.
I remember seeing "the Swamp fox as a kid and I thought (and still think) that Francis Marion was way cool.
Frances marion South Carolina hero.......🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Ladies and gentlemen , the father of the American special forces as taught by the Cherokee and other nations
I thought it was Robert Rogers, although many might argue it to be Benjamin Church 🤷♂️
@@MarkL-we8uk Robert Rogers would be the most accurate. US Army Rangers got their name from Rogers Rangers because they wanted something more American than Commando in WWII.
@@rc59191 Robert Rogers is considered the Father of SOF's in both the U.S and Canada.
Nope, Robert Rogers and Patrick Ferguson pioneered that
Modern US Army Rangers hail their roots with Men like Francis "The Swamp Fox" Marion!
God Bless Our Fore Fathers!
Edit: dang Bill O'Reilly mentions this at the end of the show...thought I was being smart here lol.
RLTW!
i loved the disney show 'the swamp fox' when i was a child. when i was young, i knew all about this guy. there is a book about him, too.
probably the one guy who has helped me the most to stay up and individualistic....the Swamp Fox...
His history is all over in SC ♡
Me, too! When I saw this on You Tube, the first thing I thought was :The Swamp Fox. Cool!
The South has always been looked down upon and overlooked in the history books.
What brave men, I hope we can keep America free.
Intrepidity.. I learnt a new word.
I have become somewhat fascinated by all these colonial and frontier wars.. Brilliant stuff and it makes it all the more real when relatives of the men who fought there comment on here..
Well thought out. detailed. 90-95% accurate. Thank you for this. Best video I've watched in a while. Love it!!
A fellow Berkeley County boy. I've been to his grave. A small family cemetery in St Stephen, SC.
BATTLE of COWPENS = Great Very Important Victory and turning point in the Southern Operations. Great Leader and Soldier.
Cowpens one of the very important victories in the Carolina's, Battle of Kings Mountain was another one.
@@KevinGSmith-mi8js Copy That! Yes Kings Mountain WAS A MAJOR Very Important pivotal victory - changed the war. Be Safe and well. Peace & Health
There are some good parts of this video. One of the points made that is particularly important was Marion's desire to avoid wanton bloodshed so that Patriots and Loyalists could come together again after the war. The recreation of the tower used at Fort Watson was well done; one could make a comparison between that tower and the ones Alexander the Great used against Tyre. Marion's men suffered heavily at Eutaw Springs, a battle that Gates called the bloodiest he fought. And Marion's actions were crucial to the Patriots' ultimate victory. The video does not make clear that Tarleton set the Richardson house on fire to draw Marion out and, when that did not work, went after Marion; this was the chase that led Tarleton to call Marion the "swamp fox." Nor was it shown that Gabriel died when Marion had him and others of his group reconnoiter the town of Georgetown. Finally, Greene was more prepared to work with Marion than Gates, he did have some trepidations about soldiers trained in unconventional tactics. For its shortcomings, though, this episode is well done.
Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion was not the only partisan leader in South Carolina during the summer and fall of 1780 that kept the British in check. There was also Thomas "Gamecock" Sumter in the backcountry, as well as Andrew "Wizard Owl" Pickens, and William Richardson Davie to name just a few. These men commanded mounted militiamen sometimes as few as 20 or 30, and other times in the hundreds, and they did a number of the British and Loyalist supplies and outposts keeping Cornwallis from marching north well into late September.
my 5th great grandfather served with Sumpter.
That's the trouble with letting only a few people write history.Few people know about Bernardo de GALVEZ gov.of Louisiana HEslso led forces stopping the British .
The Swamp Fox was a well read story when I went to school.
These stories need told today.
Was always told he was our great,great,great, and one more great....uncle on my mother's side....rr Normandy, Fra.
The battle of cowpens is not even mentioned but was important because it was Bloody Ban Tarletons swan song.
my 4th great grand father fought at cowpens
My DAR patriot John Mangum fought in that battle as well.
Marion was not near Cowpens, not even close... He was splashing around in the low country swamps with Light Horse Henry Lee. Nathaniel Green had split his small army into two separate groups. Green stayed with the eastern portion and Daniel Morgan headed west to mastermind the battle at Cowpens...
Do not underestimate a man defending his home.
This episode of the series has Marion Wearing a tricorn hat when in fact he is recorded as preferring what was called a jockey cap, with the signet of South Carolina on the brim, and a horse tail at the rear.
Ujjain yjyyyyhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyhyyyhyyyyyyyyyyi
Preventing tyranny…it seems we must do that all over again.
We'll get rid of it in November, 2024.
The REAL narration begins at about 4:30. You're welcome ;) (And.. if you'll watch very closely ... you'll see snippets of a documentary hidden between a non-stop, torrential, cascading waterfall of commercials.)
And a very selective history it is… They omit several key battles both victories and losses…. This series does little to educate. True history buffs will be disappointed as I am in this loosely told rendition…
My ancestor, Shadrach McClendon fought with Francis Marion, and was captured at the siege of Charleston
Couldn't he get along with him?
My ancestor too. Don't know if he fought with Marion but was captured with the militia at Charleston. He had served as a continental regular in earlier campaigns but had gone with North Carolina militia to the relief of Charleston. They released the militia and he served at Ramsours Mills and the defense of Mecklenburg. By the time of the Battle at Eutaw he was with the S.Carolina State troops. They paid better.😏
Dont know if he ever served with Marion but I had an ancestor who served as a regular in the continentals under Benjamin lincoln, served a time in the N.Carolina militia after his continental enlistment, was captured at Charleston, released, then went on to serve as adjutant of the horse in the S.carolina State troops under Pickens. Fought at the courthouse. Name of Charlee Taylor Reese. Went on to become an indian trader with the Cherokee. Thats how I got to Oklahoma. In his 50s he joined Andy Jackson at the horse shoe. Wounded twice, once in the Revolution and seriously wounded in a mop up action after the horse shoe. Greetings! Good to know that descendants of the folks my ancestors served with and rubbed shoulders with are out there. Good health to you.
@@larryreese6146 Charlee Taylor Reese! Thank you kindly! And here we are fighting for out Freedom again! And We will prevail again in their Names and BLOOD THEY SHED FOR All of US!!! Amen!
@@kiradelarochefoucauld7499 yes ma'am, and Charles' father is buried in Poplar Tent Cemetery near Mecklenberg and recognized as one of the signers of the controversial Mecklenberg Resolves. His name was David and all his sons served the patriot cause.
My ancestors were haliwa saponi- from eastern n.c - my great great granpa was in the yemasse war n.c archives showed 16 scouts of cherokee yemassase and adodpted tuscorora did provide help to the militia in s.c n.c and g.a
My relative Josiah Culbertson was one of the best shots and the meanest fighter in the war.
Marion also eschewed liquor carrying a mixture of vinegar and water in his canteen.
😥😥😥
They skipped right over the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. That engagement mattered more than Eutaw Springs, although Geurilla style tactics were used there as well. At Guilford Courthouse, Daniel Morgan's Riflemen invented the role of the modern day sniper.
I think Morgan's sharp shooters were used at the Battle of Saratoga in 1777.
"Morgan placed marksmen at strategic positions, who then picked off virtually every officer in the advance company. "
I am reading The Swamp Fox by John Oller, and in his book he states Francis Marion wasn't at Guilford Courthouse. Thus that is why it is not shown in this video.
Was he there?
@@lilwobblywade6324 What did l say?
@@carywest9256 This is true. Greene relied on Marion and the other eastern guerillas to strike at Cornwallis's lines of communication, and then attack the Loyalist outposts left exposed by the Guilford Court House campaign.
Loved the song of the Swamp Fox Disney came up with
My Mother is a Marion, Decendent of William Marion Francis Marion brother.
I believe they glossed over the reason for the man's wife hiding, for I heard they would take not only food and livestock but a woman as well. (Giving quarter to soldiers can be denied in our Constitution as well as unwarranted searches and seizures.)
Gabriel died a real man. Anyone who can look death in the face and basically say, "Screw you!", is one brave soul.
Francis Marion is my many-greats uncle
Disney did several episodes on the “Swamp Fox”
I was always partial to Johnny "Silverfist" Tremane.
Mel Gibson's character in the patriot was loosely based on Marion!
@@ernestclements7398
I think he was based more on General Daniel Morgan.
@@northernlight4614 Ernest is correct. Fictitious Benjamin Martin in The Patriot movie is loosely based on real-life Francis Marion.
@@oscargrouch7962
Loosely is right. Marion never fought at Cowpens or Yorktown. He was more of a guerilla fighter.
They always portray Cornwallis as an old man but was actually younger than Marion. They did Tarlton age correct for once. The Disney show had the ages of these men all messed up. A very good book about Marion was done by John Oller and there is a audio of it on TH-cam.
Yeah, Tarlton was 26.
Why did you not put the battle of the cowpens in here
Well said Mr O'Reilly.
What got me to laughing was Bill Nye (the Science Guy), a 'man' with a BS in Mechanical Engineering commenting on the history, psychology, philosophy and tactics/strategy of war!!! WHAT a commentator!
Thanks so much for this greatly appreciated and high def too!!
if you speed it up to 1.25 speed it sounds normal
Peter Sinkler, my ancestor served with Marion, was betrayed by his brother in law, died of Typhus in the Exchange building. Had his plantation destroyed, brother in law was awarded land in Nova Scotia for his betrayal.
play at 125% to make it sounds better (120% would probably be closer to the original, but youtube doesn't have that option)
*slowed recordings avoid being taken down due to copyright
Absolutely my hero.
very cool. glad oreilly’s people aren’t dinging you and taking it down. Hope it stays up!
Thank you Bill. O' Reilly! Love it.
Here we are again
The fuck i need Biil Nye the Science guy talking to me about history
No
Tribute to American Veterans, Swamp Fox on YOU TUBE is also very good. Early American history even I did not know! I think John Wayne and Jim Morrison MIGHT be related to this famous patriot.
Marion
SC Proud ♡
Narrator and others sound very slow talking for some reason. Playback at 1.25x speed sounds much better.
No mention of King's Mountain?
Marion wasn't at Kings Mountain
They didn't mention Thomas "Gamecock" Sumter or Andrew Pickens either.
John Hancox is a distant relitive of mine.
Are you a schoolteacher?
@@bloodybones63
No.
I love the history of the swamp fox....I despise Bill Nye the "Science guy"
Negative. The Rangers view Col. Rogers of the French and Indian War as their founding Father. It is his instructions to his Rangers which you will find in the Ranger handbook. There was however a Military prep School in Alabama named in honor of Francis Marion, Marion Military Institute, until the mid 1990's.
James Wells to a point this is true. It becomes problematic when you realize Rogers fought with the British in the Revolution. Incidentally, Rogers was a Major during the French and Indian War. The Colonel rank did not apply until he was fighting with the British in the Revolution.
@@rorymajors2504 nothing at all problematic about it.
I believe that the man who raped me went to that school. His mother, Elizabeth Flowers, worked there. Does that ring a bell?
Skipped right over Cowpens and Guilford Courthouse.
Francis Marion did not fight at either Cowpens or Guilford Courthouse. Daniel Morgan was the American general at Cowpens and Nathaniel Greene was the American general at Guilford Courthouse.
@@oscargrouch7962 I did not say he did. But if you are telling the history of one man, you must at least mention what was happening around him in his time. Otherwise the history of one man makes no sense.
Further, it was one of Marion's tactics, employed by Morgan at Cowpens and then later by Greene in Greensboro that won one battle, and turned the other Pyrrhic for the enemy.
For both reasons, both of these battles are relevant to Marion's story.
@@kennedymcgovern5413 Read the title again; the video is about Francis Marion not Cowpens or Guilford Courthouse.
Morgan did not use Marion's tactics at Cowpens. Morgan used Morgan's tactics at Cowpen's. Marion's tactics were to hit and run and escape before getting trapped. Morgan was trapped at Cowpens between Tarleton and a cliff with a river at its base and had to do a defense in depth because the field was too narrow to deploy all of his soldiers at the same time. Tarleton never trapped Marion. Tarleton allegedly said, "As for this old fox, the Devil himself could not catch him." Francis Marion was called the "Swamp Fox".
Greene used Morgan's tactic, not Marion's tactic, by putting the militia up front as skirmishers at Guilford Courthouse to force the Brits to fire their volley prematurely.
The only way both battles are relevant to Marion's story is that they were both during the American Revolution.
The redcoats burnt his house down I believe.
This is fun! Maybe a liiiiiittle bit overly simplistic in the delivery, but it's cute!😁
I quit drug and cut medicine as well. My colleagues were less healthy than the patients. Typically fat, stressed, and rich on their second or third trophy wife. I went into acupuncture medicine. I worked only 6 months of 12 months for 40 years. My old colleagues and their families are my patients. Go figure..
It wasn't just the Tories, the Over the mtn men hated the Slave Power too...and with good reason.
You're mistaken.
So they met at mussel shoals and with John Sevier in command marched to kings mountain where they handed defeat to the british, Sevier went on to become the first governor of Tennessee and have Sevier county named after him.
@@therealerictatkinson8311 There were certainly slave owners among the over mountain men, however, most Southern Appalachian counties voted against succession precisely because they were against the slave powers. I think it’s safe to assume at least a majority were against slavery. It may have been for economic reasons not moral ones in many cases but I don’t believe he is mistaken.
🗡🐴🦊...very different from the olde 1959 -1960 Walt Disney Series...his brigands are protrayed as a guerrilla cavalry...not so much infantry, really Patriot/Rebel Horse thieves more than anything else ...perhaps Disney intended to save Fort Watson, and Eutaw Springs for a 2nd season ...which never came...
When the British captured South Carolina, they attacked Spanish possessions in Florida, and executed a small group of Spanish officers who had been observers in Charleston. The Spanish then officially began supporting the American rebels.
As if tactics were invented by the stone-age "indian".
The British never captured South Carolina. They had a few fortifications and Charleston. Spain actually delayed declaring war on Britain because they were currently fighting the Spanish-Portuguese War. They did so after that ended. They also shipped material and grant loans since 1776 through New Orleans.
I’d like to bring to your attention to 2 key omissions. How can you talk about the revolutionary war in South Carolina without examining the battle of CowPens? Yorktown was not the end of the war. It continued on. It’s true that Cornwallis was gone but British troops remained…
23:42 Am I the only one who actually heard the Welhelm Scream?
I was wondering the same thing! I heard it
Yes
A few little lies are found here in this program. The founding father of the Rangers was Robert Rogers in the French and Indian War. Any one who knows Colonial History knows that.
Bill Nye the science phony.
Please replace Bill speedwalker Nye with Bozo the clown....
Got that right
From what I hear Bozo is a more reputable Historian.
No kidding.
Danial Morgan saves the day. ( North and South ) but never gets much credit.
Yep, they sort of glossed over Kings Mountain and Cow Pens, didn't they?
You are so right. I say all the time, Daniel Morgan is the most important American you have never heard of. God Bless Daniel Morgan, Timothy Murphy, and Morgan's Rifle Corps at Saratoga. And God Bless Daniel Morgan, Howard's Continentals, Washington's Light Dragoons, and Picken's Militia at Cowpens. To hell with, Burgoyne, Fraser, Cornwallis, and Tarleton. Daniel Morgan is truly a military genius.
@@1stVARifleman yep, he knew what he was doing, and if it hadn't been for Kings Mountain and Cowpens and Daniel Greene holding the army together there wouldn't have been a Yorktown.
@@1stVARifleman my ancestors were down that way. They did not take part at Kings Mountain or Cowpens but they were at several other places, including the defense of Mecklenburg and at the courthouse. My ancestor grandfather served as a regular during the first part of the war, was discharged and went to the defense of Charleston, was captured and released. He then served in the militia and finally ended up in the S.Carolina State Troops as adjutant of the horse. He acted as cavalry under William Washington at the courthouse. With the end of the war in the Carolinas, he set out for the Cherokee Nation as a trader. Now in his 50s he joined Andrew Jackson and fought at Horseshoe Bend. He was wounded 3 times in battle, the last time in a mop up action after Horseshoe Bend. It was a very serious wound. He was compensated for that wound and was pensioned as a Revolutionary War vet posthumously. He died in his 60s and was buried somewhere in Maury County Tennessee. So, you see, I'm a little partial to Southern efforts during our bid for independence.
@@larryreese6146
You mean Nathaniel Greene?
It's pretty obvious the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson had to have been based on the Marion. Recalling the movie it's full of similarities. I think Gibson's character bares the only fictitious name.
Oh no, not bill nye the know nothing science guy. I thought I was watching a serious Legends and Lies. Now I have my doubts about the authenticity of this video??????????
This is not accurate history. Marion didn’t “drive” cornwallis to Yorktown, Cornwalis was ordered there by his superiors, to meet brittish ships to new york. Of course the french navy cut off the brittish ships, leaving cornwalis trapped.
Francis Marion was very short, about 5 feet.
Good riddance! They’ve all priced themselves out of business.
"father of modern guerilla warfare" is a huge overstatement.
Robert Rogers was credited as being the father of the Rangers, no? 🤷♂️
They partied bc they knew they might die next day
Oh damn back when fox news was worth watching
They had God
Lol
He looked dead shifty in real life!,
Like all Fox productions of this era: It plays fast-and-loose with the facts and does NOT present anything near a complete picture and instead simply pushes the agenda they establish in the first 30 seconds: "Marion was THE genius that "invented" guerrilla warfare and everyone else was a fool (no matter how untrue that may be).
British lad now, are you?
@@bloodybones63 lol, yea because I don't swallow everything labelled as "patriotic" like a fool? Gobble gobble Mr. Patriot.
Britain wasn't the tyranny. The Colonies should have had a peaceful revolution. Canada did.
What would be the fun in that?
Britain lost most of its empire starting with the USA. Britain allowed Canada to self-govern rather than also lose Canada.
America's national story is built on lies.
More American propaganda BS
You've taken one of the greatest stories and made it boring and stupid looking!
Especially with bill nye at the helm
Trump apologists have forgotten what democracy is all about.
Nobody is apologizing for Trump. Except for exposing poor Joe at the debate. Sorry.
Lousy history. Marion was just one of many guerrilla rangers who fought the way Americans had been fighting since Benjamin Church in King Phillip’s War in the late 1600s.
Marion (descendant of French besides as its name suggests), father of the modern guerrilla? O_o
False of course. He only copied what the French did 20 years before on the same North American soil during the "7 Years War" or "French-Indians War" for you.
Modern guerrilla warfare invented by the French with the help of their Indian allies 20 years before. French guerrilla which allowed France and French troops to hold a war in North America for several years where they were nevertheless fighting 1 French against 10 English and red lobsters of which you were part then eh the future "US WASPs" including even a certain George Washington... :p
And despite that, 20 years later, France (the Kingdom of France then) was financially ruined itself, the French lost 10,000 of their soldiers (yes 10,000 French died for your creation, there is never had only Lafayette, an enormous blood spilled for you especially in this time (18th century) and by a country which was not really concerned and which nothing obliged to intervene directly) to give you your independence. Because please let's stop the first of the lies to correspond to the title of this Fox-News serie: it is really the super-power of this time which was France and especially its Navy which ultimately won your Revolution. Proof that the French are not resentful. 😛
Whats is your deal dude?
And I do believe that WE AMERICANS, with help from some Allied Forces,
LIBERATED THE FRENCH FROM GERMAN RULE!! The Nazi’s had plowed thru France very quickly
@@geneaustin3033
Yes, true for 1944, as USA exists THANKS TO FRANCE.
And then, this 'creation' went to Normandy, kicked ass, & gave the French their whole country back. Which those French surrendered after 30 days. You're welcome. BTW, it says in the vid that Marion learned his tactics while being in the French & Indian war. Where he no doubt taught the French a few lessons.
Sooo basically The Patriot just plagiarized this whole guy's story lol
I wouldnt say plagiarized. They based his character on a combination of Francis Marion , Thomas Sumter and Daniel Morgan..Marion had quite a good many slaves and you cannot have a hero slave owner in a modern view of that era..
@@trevorfuson715 PLAGARIZED as in STOLE. Jeez if your gonna try to "correct" me use the right word at least
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines You've never had spell check throw in a wrong word. Take a pill dude. I wasnt correcting you just adding in a few more facts.
@@trevorfuson715 I understood you just suck at grammar lol. And if you look at The PAtriot,a good I would say 90 percent if Frances Marion. So,yes, they did plagiarize his life.
@@Fatherofheroesandheroines you are missing the point...Hmmm my grammar ?? Lol!! I give up..
This program and the movie "The Patriot" have about the same accuracy. None.