I love the way Sarah interacts with her guests! Always so personal and warm. Her expertise shines through but she's also somehow so humble and eager to learn and ensures the spotlight is on them. The kind music teacher vibe is also very strong. So much love to you Sarah. Keep doing the brilliant work that you do ❤️
As someone with little to no historical or theoretical musical training this was very interesting. Please could you make a whole video in which you play the same piece - perhaps a common folk melody, or "happy birthday" - going through each of the styles/eras/ways of playing that you've talked about so that we can make an aural comparison?
This is such a good idea! I have videos up my sleeve about Renaissance music, (French) Baroque, Romantic style, and contemporary music... would you lot prefer to have those first, or just bring the comparison already? 😄
@@Team_Recorder I look forward to those. :) The comparison video last may be a nice consolidation and then you could link to the "full explanation" videos as you play each style so people can check back if they've missed one, maybe :)
I would love to hear that principal flautist telling musical lore. She is so witty and intelligent. P.S. once again Sarah please give us a video on the recorders place in the concert band/wind ensemble!!! I was hoping to play the bass recorder in a city band and was wondering what other instrument’s parts that it could possibly cover.
Loved this video! As a flute player, I’ve been learning a lot about the recorder from these videos. It would be great to hear the conversation about ornamentation and improvisation. Thank you! Bill
What a lovely video and informative conversation. I seem to have heard that Mozart duo in another form, maybe as a piano sonata. Asking Emily to play a little in Romantic Style was a very useful comparison and shows how a skilled player can vary style and not be stuck into a preconceived notion that everything should sound the same.
I hope Emily would discuss more about the traverso baroque flute. As a flute and recorder player, I've always been curious of the traverso and plan to get one.
Ms. Beynon and modern wood flute sound amazing! I grew up with a lot of classical music at home, and the Concertgebouw Orchestra figured heavily in our record collection. It's interesting that the flutes have head joints by different makers. Didn't know that was a thing.
So nice to listen to Emily. The Concertgebouw Orchestra is a mythical one and to have one of their principals is simply great! Taking a hint from another comment, I am curious about listening to the recorder playing duets with a flute, but not the modern one, the wooden traverso with few to no keys. I wonder whether during the takeover of the flute there was actually a time when composers wrote for both instruments playing together.
Two ladies masters of their art. The classical phrasing seems limited compared to Carnatic raga phrasing. Sa re ga mah. I’m just learning the recorder. Thank you both for encouragement in the discussion. I love my recorder
I find the remark about the Eb vs. D# key really interesting, since it indicates perhaps some meantone temperament other than 12 equal. I wonder if there were fingerings to distinguish between sharps and flats for other notes -- surely you'd want at least to distinguish Bb from A# as well in that case (though, maybe A# was considered less commonly needed, and only a good Bb would be required in that case?).
@@Team_Recorder this is indeed the case! Even the modern flute has some (metal) keys for certain (musical) keys. Due to modern tuning, A# and Bb are the same of course, but B major (the worst key on a flute, imo) is indeed a bit easier if you use the A# figuring for A# in lieu of one of the Bb fingerings.
Pretty much any school for the traverso (or later the keyed flute) gives differend fingerings for each enharmonic note at least up to the mid of the 19th century. For example Quantz, Tromlitz, Devienne to some extent and even A.B. Fürstenau still mentions this... Heres Tromlitz' take for example. The fingering chart is on the last page. imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/e/e4/IMSLP75105-PMLP150692-TromlitzAusfhrlicherUndGrndlicherUnterrichtDieFlteZuSpielen1791.pdf
@@georgiv7154 Wow, thanks! What a beautifully rendered chart too. :D I've been really interested lately in the kinds of harmony which lie outside our 12 equal divisions of the octave, and it's always interesting to see how much attention to detail we once had and kind of gave up on.
@@cgibbard you might want to check out Fürstenaus or Walckiers schools for the Flute then, especially on altered semitones then. Im sure it applies to other Instruments of the time as well... They're in french and german though. Fürstenau: imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/2/2d/IMSLP544267-PMLP879091-F%C3%BCrstenau_bearbeitet.pdf Walckiers: www.oldflutes.com/facsimiles/walckiers2.pdf Rick Wilsons Flute page is also a great resource: www.oldflutes.com/
I'm having a devil of a time finding the Grand Duo on IMSLP that you refer to. Could you provide a link to it? Or at least quote a K number or some other bit of data we could use to search for it more effectively?
No, it was unfortunately MY phone that died! 😅 I was recording the audio with a little mic and it cut out.. we had a great convo about ornaments but it was too echoey to use 😪
I'm sorry to say it Sarah, but im quite disappointed by the destinct lack of classical flutes in this episode. Also i dont really get why she's playing Mozart on a boehm flute when theres a Traverso at hand. Pretty much all of the classical repertoire (at least 18th century stuff) is perfectly playable on the Traverso. In fact one keyed Flutes were around well into the 19th century. Overall i feel like this episode really falls behind on your other videos in terms of historical information... Pls dont take it personally and excuse my poor english :)
Thanks for your comments Georg! Ultimately, the point of this video isn’t to tell you which flute to buy, but in introduction into the massive topic of playing in a classical style for recorder players. Fitting 70 years into 15 min will always leave something out 😉 My target audience are people with a new piece of Classical repertoire on their stand and want to get an introduction to style- and I’d rather acheive that for them with musical tips rather than giving the advice to buy a specific specialist flute! 😅 Also, Emily has the expertise of someone who weekly performs a range of repertoire from baroque right up to world premieres, and I think her skills of being able to switch styles and mostly importanrly to see all of these musical practices in context is super valuable for my viewers, who are mostly playing in many styles themselves 😊 tldr; you don’t need a classical flute to play Mozart ;)
@@Team_Recorder Dear Sarah thank you for taking the time to reply. I didnt mean to offend =/ I totally get your point yet i think theres a missed opportunity here...
She might have done so in order to give an idea of how to match a sound appropriate to the "Classical" Era ona modern flute, after all not always everyone has a "Baroque" flute at hand, so you have to make with what you have, and having an idea of the appropriate sound and performing practice for every particular Period on every particular instrument always is good for a musician, whether professional or an hobbist.
More flute cross over is always welcomed! Nice to see Emily!
Glad you like it! :D
Nice to see you too Amelie. 👌 🧐 ♫
I love the way Sarah interacts with her guests! Always so personal and warm. Her expertise shines through but she's also somehow so humble and eager to learn and ensures the spotlight is on them. The kind music teacher vibe is also very strong. So much love to you Sarah. Keep doing the brilliant work that you do ❤️
As someone with little to no historical or theoretical musical training this was very interesting.
Please could you make a whole video in which you play the same piece - perhaps a common folk melody, or "happy birthday" - going through each of the styles/eras/ways of playing that you've talked about so that we can make an aural comparison?
This is such a good idea! I have videos up my sleeve about Renaissance music, (French) Baroque, Romantic style, and contemporary music... would you lot prefer to have those first, or just bring the comparison already? 😄
@@Team_Recorder I look forward to those. :)
The comparison video last may be a nice consolidation and then you could link to the "full explanation" videos as you play each style so people can check back if they've missed one, maybe :)
I would love to hear that principal flautist telling musical lore. She is so witty and intelligent.
P.S. once again Sarah please give us a video on the recorders place in the concert band/wind ensemble!!! I was hoping to play the bass recorder in a city band and was wondering what other instrument’s parts that it could possibly cover.
Articulation on both sides of the note. Mind. Blown.
Loved this video! As a flute player, I’ve been learning a lot about the recorder from these videos. It would be great to hear the conversation about ornamentation and improvisation.
Thank you!
Bill
What a lovely video and informative conversation. I seem to have heard that Mozart duo in another form, maybe as a piano sonata. Asking Emily to play a little in Romantic Style was a very useful comparison and shows how a skilled player can vary style and not be stuck into a preconceived notion that everything should sound the same.
Wonderfull nice combination! It sounds very well!
Such an interesting video, wonderful guest and lovely music. I would love to see other woodwinds on team recorder from time to time
I don't play the flute. I don't read about historical playing techniques. YET I LOVED THIS
I hope Emily would discuss more about the traverso baroque flute. As a flute and recorder player, I've always been curious of the traverso and plan to get one.
Ms. Beynon and modern wood flute sound amazing! I grew up with a lot of classical music at home, and the Concertgebouw Orchestra figured heavily in our record collection. It's interesting that the flutes have head joints by different makers. Didn't know that was a thing.
So nice to listen to Emily. The Concertgebouw Orchestra is a mythical one and to have one of their principals is simply great!
Taking a hint from another comment, I am curious about listening to the recorder playing duets with a flute, but not the modern one, the wooden traverso with few to no keys.
I wonder whether during the takeover of the flute there was actually a time when composers wrote for both instruments playing together.
wow the rafi tenor fits very well with the modern flute.
Interesting - I was thinking exactly the opposite, and wondering why not a Helder tenor.
Legit watched a masterclass at the college im starting at in sept by Emily yesterday and it was _great_
Thank you for the amazing performance! These two instruments sounded absolutely amazing together!
This is SO interesting! Thanks Sarah, as usual!!! 😍
Wauww, beautiful! I did not realize that the flute and recorder sound so good together 🧡
Thank you so much for this truly delightful collaboration
Absolutely fantastic and insightful. Love your channel.
Very interesting!
I learn a lot in this video!!
Thank you Sara!
doh i was hoping she'd play the baroque flute since she said mozart would've been played on it. Anyway she's got a lovely sound. Very beautiful. ☺️
Brilliant!
Two ladies masters of their art. The classical phrasing seems limited compared to Carnatic raga phrasing. Sa re ga mah. I’m just learning the recorder. Thank you both for encouragement in the discussion. I love my recorder
I find the remark about the Eb vs. D# key really interesting, since it indicates perhaps some meantone temperament other than 12 equal. I wonder if there were fingerings to distinguish between sharps and flats for other notes -- surely you'd want at least to distinguish Bb from A# as well in that case (though, maybe A# was considered less commonly needed, and only a good Bb would be required in that case?).
Oh yes! We do on recorder at least, so I’m sure it must be the case for the flute too.
@@Team_Recorder this is indeed the case! Even the modern flute has some (metal) keys for certain (musical) keys. Due to modern tuning, A# and Bb are the same of course, but B major (the worst key on a flute, imo) is indeed a bit easier if you use the A# figuring for A# in lieu of one of the Bb fingerings.
Pretty much any school for the traverso (or later the keyed flute) gives differend fingerings for each enharmonic note at least up to the mid of the 19th century. For example Quantz, Tromlitz, Devienne to some extent and even A.B. Fürstenau still mentions this...
Heres Tromlitz' take for example. The fingering chart is on the last page.
imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/e/e4/IMSLP75105-PMLP150692-TromlitzAusfhrlicherUndGrndlicherUnterrichtDieFlteZuSpielen1791.pdf
@@georgiv7154 Wow, thanks! What a beautifully rendered chart too. :D
I've been really interested lately in the kinds of harmony which lie outside our 12 equal divisions of the octave, and it's always interesting to see how much attention to detail we once had and kind of gave up on.
@@cgibbard you might want to check out Fürstenaus or Walckiers schools for the Flute then, especially on altered semitones then. Im sure it applies to other Instruments of the time as well... They're in french and german though.
Fürstenau: imslp.simssa.ca/files/imglnks/usimg/2/2d/IMSLP544267-PMLP879091-F%C3%BCrstenau_bearbeitet.pdf
Walckiers: www.oldflutes.com/facsimiles/walckiers2.pdf
Rick Wilsons Flute page is also a great resource: www.oldflutes.com/
Excelente, felicitaciones 🎈🎉🍾🎊
This duet was 👌
Wonderful video like all of them! Thank you :)
That song was beutifull good video❤️❤️
Wonderful!
SOLID Gold, that's the important thing...
Nice
I'm having a devil of a time finding the Grand Duo on IMSLP that you refer to. Could you provide a link to it? Or at least quote a K number or some other bit of data we could use to search for it more effectively?
Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Holy moly, how did I miss this video? Well, better late than later. Thank you TH-cam algorithm!
Ahh welcome 😄
12:00 wow
Meda a blowing flute or a wooden contralto I don't have money to buy it
I want her to play king solider poet
12:05 i thought my phone died!!! Hahaha
No, it was unfortunately MY phone that died! 😅 I was recording the audio with a little mic and it cut out.. we had a great convo about ornaments but it was too echoey to use 😪
I call it a duet.
💟
she is so cute
The classical period is about the active lifetime of Joeph Haydn (1732 - 1809)
Backup audio next time?
Great discussion, but for the amateur musician, more show and less tell, which I find more useful. More aural and less oral.
expensive collection.
I'm sorry to say it Sarah, but im quite disappointed by the destinct lack of classical flutes in this episode. Also i dont really get why she's playing Mozart on a boehm flute when theres a Traverso at hand. Pretty much all of the classical repertoire (at least 18th century stuff) is perfectly playable on the Traverso. In fact one keyed Flutes were around well into the 19th century. Overall i feel like this episode really falls behind on your other videos in terms of historical information...
Pls dont take it personally and excuse my poor english :)
I loved the video and i dont se any lack of flutes, and information
Picky, aren't we?
Thanks for your comments Georg! Ultimately, the point of this video isn’t to tell you which flute to buy, but in introduction into the massive topic of playing in a classical style for recorder players. Fitting 70 years into 15 min will always leave something out 😉 My target audience are people with a new piece of Classical repertoire on their stand and want to get an introduction to style- and I’d rather acheive that for them with musical tips rather than giving the advice to buy a specific specialist flute! 😅 Also, Emily has the expertise of someone who weekly performs a range of repertoire from baroque right up to world premieres, and I think her skills of being able to switch styles and mostly importanrly to see all of these musical practices in context is super valuable for my viewers, who are mostly playing in many styles themselves 😊 tldr; you don’t need a classical flute to play Mozart ;)
@@Team_Recorder Dear Sarah thank you for taking the time to reply. I didnt mean to offend =/ I totally get your point yet i think theres a missed opportunity here...
She might have done so in order to give an idea of how to match a sound appropriate to the "Classical" Era ona modern flute, after all not always everyone has a "Baroque" flute at hand, so you have to make with what you have, and having an idea of the appropriate sound and performing practice for every particular Period on every particular instrument always is good for a musician, whether professional or an hobbist.