Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders and millions have been killed because of this obedience. Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem. Howard Zinn ❤
We have to play these words from a century ago, not because it's so important to hear over and over. It's because it's so important that we STILL need to keep saying it over and over, hoping we will finally be heard.
This should be aired every day until the election so people can be reminded of what we can accomplish when we work together - even when facing overwhelming odds. Or, rather, especially when. Thank you, Amy.
Rise Humanity, rise. Rise up from all of the lies. Rise up to clarity, let go of old ideology. Humanity is one big family! What injures you injures me. It is time that we become free, and trust our own guide from within and begin; to heal Humanity as a whole, joining each other soul to soul. Namaste.
@@paulgibby6932 this production is from 2003 and apparently difficult to find- probably my favorite which also includes Marisa Tomei, Howard’s son and James Earl Jones reading Frederick Douglas. Many other year productions are searchable with also great casts- keep searching!
What inspiring speakers! Imagine if Palestinians had the opportunity to present their case to an unbiased judge or jury. Denying any individual or group the opportunity to demand justice is the ultimate injustice.
Could you please bring Jill Stein on for a debate so that way people know they have options other than just Kamala and Trump Please we need to do better
🙄. This Caribbean, atheist/non political, adult won't be commenting, copying, pasting, stating the same facts on TH-cam, anymore. Besides! I have errands to do for cleaning, packing, and moving (for tomorrow).
@@ttvrevolversmoke9214 With regard to the Philippine American War, Zinn is special pleading but gives the reader just enough to come away from the text with a false impression of the war. It is a polemic. Works penned during the Vietnam War Era had a tendency to focus on the atrocities, using them to make the Vietnam comparison when the wars were more dissimilar than similar. For example he wrote that 70,000 crushed the rebellion. Brian Linn wrote that only 25,000 combat troops fielded on average. Zinn also wrote that dead Filipinos were stacked so high Americans used them as breastworks, but he didn't cite a source for that. He deployed all of the most sensational sources that he could, such as a letter from a soldier that appeared in an anti-imperialist newspaper that was unverified, or Smith's famous order to kill everyone over 10 and turn Samar into a howling wilderness, without verifying if those orders were carried out. That's why it is a polemic. It is not as if he didn't have access to more sophisticated works, he just chose to ignore them. By 1980 there were a number of journals and monographs on academic presses that began to resist the notion that the war was a First Vietnam, or could be typified by isolated acts of torture. The late John Gates brought up the "policies of attraction" that won over a portion of Filipinos to support the Americans, and that the post-war and post-colonial relationship wasn't one that was indicative of abuse. The Philippine-Based Eugenio Lopez foundation published the US Government's official history of the war penned by John R. M. Taylor that was suppressed for 70 years which demonstrated that it was a far more complicated, regionally specific, evolving counterinsurgency making it impossible for any blanket policy to be implemented. Taylor’s works have been the basis for all of the military histories of the war that have been published AFTER Zinn’s sloppy account. Richard Welch and other historians had refuted a lot of the dubious claims about the frequency of atrocities that occurred. Historians in a later historiographical period took many of these counterpoints to task, they just didn't attempt to reintroduce exaggerations about atrocities that occurred that Zinn and others repeated ad nauseam. The later scholarship is simply more credible. We can talk at great length about US atrocities without having to pen bad histories in order to do so. In the end, Zinn wasn't a Philippine Specialist, but it doesn't take one to treat the subject honestly and accurately.
@Rhythmicons o shit, this was way more articulate than I expected from a TH-cam comment. I really really really appreciate you taking the time to write in detail on why it should be taking with a grain of salt.
@@oldbeatpete Kamala’s taxation of unrealized gains for billionaires. They are then forced to sell stock to pay the tax, and you create the biggest crash in history that wipes out people’s investments...
silent canned laughter, olfactory tears, stench imagined, by a simulated golden; toilet. Emoji man, comb over another way, the castles have disapeared in the receding waves. A fin into legs, gils into lungs, evolution has cycled, farther than your service could ever be civil; or solvent
I used to be ALL into Howard Zinn in my 20s, when I was young and dumb- before I realized he never comes to any conclusions, Zinn just talks in endless circles.
Civil disobedience is not our problem.
Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of leaders and millions have been killed because of this obedience. Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves while the grand thieves are running the country.
That's our problem.
Howard Zinn ❤
Shoutout Labor, Mother Jones, Zinn, Historical Materialism and Amy Goodman. Thank you DN. Y’all rule. Free 🇵🇸 and have a good day. ✌️
Wage slavery is insanity. Workers MUST own and control the means of production.
We have to play these words from a century ago, not because it's so important to hear over and over.
It's because it's so important that we STILL need to keep saying it over and over, hoping we will finally be heard.
Thanks You guys always have more inspiration to give us
Thanks very much for these videos especially the one by Zinn.
This should be aired every day until the election so people can be reminded of what we can accomplish when we work together - even when facing overwhelming odds. Or, rather, especially when. Thank you, Amy.
His memory is a blessing.
Happy Labour Day👏✌️🕊🙏
Is there anywhere you can watch the full 2003 recording of this reading they clipped here? Is it somewhere on the democracynow! website?
Workers of the World Unite!
Rise Humanity, rise.
Rise up from all of the lies.
Rise up to clarity, let go of old ideology.
Humanity is one big family!
What injures you injures me.
It is time that we become free,
and trust our own guide from within and begin;
to heal Humanity as a whole,
joining each other soul to soul.
Namaste.
Such a modern classic! I had forgotten about Kurt Vonnegut, jr.’s participation.
Where is he involved? Not in this clip..
@@seansmith3058 he does a reading in this performance. He can be seen in this clip sitting in the row behind the podium.
@@benzell4 Is the whole thing found on TH-cam (or elsewhere)? Would love to see it.
@@paulgibby6932 this production is from 2003 and apparently difficult to find- probably my favorite which also includes Marisa Tomei, Howard’s son and James Earl Jones reading Frederick Douglas. Many other year productions are searchable with also great casts- keep searching!
What inspiring speakers! Imagine if Palestinians had the opportunity to present their case to an unbiased judge or jury. Denying any individual or group the opportunity to demand justice is the ultimate injustice.
I'd love to hear Peter Linebaugh on your show
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Believe it or not- in Europe there is still s woman, me, that bought this book by Howard!
Wage slavery IS slavery.
Could you please bring Jill Stein on for a debate so that way people know they have options other than just Kamala and Trump
Please we need to do better
Brilliant. ❤
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JUST VOTE 🗳 🙂 👍 😀 DAMMIT!
uh, I doubt (especially in 2024) that's gonna make a difference
Nasty reminder, about Labor Day children being the escape goats for labor and union laws
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What about soldiers who parish , Because foolish decisions , After all soldiers are workers?
Soldiers, like the police, are not workers. They are the protectors of capital.
🙄. This Caribbean, atheist/non political, adult won't be commenting, copying, pasting, stating the same facts on TH-cam, anymore. Besides! I have errands to do for cleaning, packing, and moving (for tomorrow).
A People's History of the United States should be treated with kid gloves as far as his chapter on the Philippines is concerned.
Why's that ?
Write a history book
@@jjareal23 I am.
@@ttvrevolversmoke9214 With regard to the Philippine American War, Zinn is special pleading but gives the reader just enough to come away from the text with a false impression of the war. It is a polemic. Works penned during the Vietnam War Era had a tendency to focus on the atrocities, using them to make the Vietnam comparison when the wars were more dissimilar than similar. For example he wrote that 70,000 crushed the rebellion. Brian Linn wrote that only 25,000 combat troops fielded on average. Zinn also wrote that dead Filipinos were stacked so high Americans used them as breastworks, but he didn't cite a source for that. He deployed all of the most sensational sources that he could, such as a letter from a soldier that appeared in an anti-imperialist newspaper that was unverified, or Smith's famous order to kill everyone over 10 and turn Samar into a howling wilderness, without verifying if those orders were carried out. That's why it is a polemic. It is not as if he didn't have access to more sophisticated works, he just chose to ignore them.
By 1980 there were a number of journals and monographs on academic presses that began to resist the notion that the war was a First Vietnam, or could be typified by isolated acts of torture. The late John Gates brought up the "policies of attraction" that won over a portion of Filipinos to support the Americans, and that the post-war and post-colonial relationship wasn't one that was indicative of abuse. The Philippine-Based Eugenio Lopez foundation published the US Government's official history of the war penned by John R. M. Taylor that was suppressed for 70 years which demonstrated that it was a far more complicated, regionally specific, evolving counterinsurgency making it impossible for any blanket policy to be implemented. Taylor’s works have been the basis for all of the military histories of the war that have been published AFTER Zinn’s sloppy account. Richard Welch and other historians had refuted a lot of the dubious claims about the frequency of atrocities that occurred.
Historians in a later historiographical period took many of these counterpoints to task, they just didn't attempt to reintroduce exaggerations about atrocities that occurred that Zinn and others repeated ad nauseam. The later scholarship is simply more credible. We can talk at great length about US atrocities without having to pen bad histories in order to do so. In the end, Zinn wasn't a Philippine Specialist, but it doesn't take one to treat the subject honestly and accurately.
@Rhythmicons o shit, this was way more articulate than I expected from a TH-cam comment. I really really really appreciate you taking the time to write in detail on why it should be taking with a grain of salt.
Remember the good old days when DM spoke truth to power?
R u not Ntertaind?
Nope. Not comparing ourselves to chattel slavery. Sorry.
He wrote that over 100 years ago…it’s not present-day language. 🤦🏽♀️
@@samaraisnt ooooooh my bad then. I thought it was written today 🤦♂️
Inside China Business
The BRICS trading system is already wiping out US farmers
Trump is simply the best
at pooping the bed.
Collective, stream of zeitgeist consciousness poem then said
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@@oldbeatpete Kamala’s taxation of unrealized gains for billionaires. They are then forced to sell stock to pay the tax, and you create the biggest crash in history that wipes out people’s investments...
silent canned laughter, olfactory tears, stench imagined, by a simulated golden; toilet. Emoji man, comb over another way, the castles have disapeared in the receding waves. A fin into legs, gils into lungs, evolution has cycled, farther than your service could ever be civil; or solvent
I used to be ALL into Howard Zinn in my 20s, when I was young and dumb- before I realized he never comes to any conclusions, Zinn just talks in endless circles.
Interesting criticism: "endless circles". Maybe a few examples might turn your comment into a scintilating, piercing, enlightening point
Sounds like BS to me.