The LPL cheated for sure. That pause was 100% intentional, resulting in the coffee spill on T1’s side, which got on the keyboard and caused a 0.00001s delay in input, which lost them the game. Unfair!!
How can you not love this team? Gigabin, Elkylove, YaGoat, even their psycho coach Tabe. Proving the doubters wrong at every turn. BLG v JDG round 4 lets gooooo!!!
@@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 T1 is so confusing, going from best team to losing and looking to be struggling to make worlds, to get to world finals dominantly, then looks like best team at msi, then goes 3rd and then look like the roster is done, THEN THEY WIN WORLDS AND ITS HAPPENING AGAIN. t1 is bipolar
@@makkaroni07wouldnt say T1 underperformed at MSI (not during the elimination matches anyways). BLG and GENG were simply better. T1 overperformed at worlds
Tbh this is way more clean run. Drx got to reverse sweep and stuff. They was not looking better but winning st the end. This blg it’s just destroying whoever they facing
This is flat out more impressive tbh. Doesn't have the flashy narratives and the cinderella story, but it's overall way harder. DRX only needed to win 5 Bo5's in total to win Worlds (starting from the LCK gauntlet), BLG have already played 11 Bo5's... and they will play their 12th tommorow.
It's all about who is playing them, even first pick nautilus, still win the game and did a lot in the late game. I must say yagao is the MVP for the game 4.
Let's see what excuse T1 fans come up with this time Choose your pick: 1. Coach fucked up the draft 2. Too cocky drafting losing lanes 3. 35 Ping 4. T1 weren't trying 5. Guma not on traditional AD 6. Faker not on carry 7. Disrespected other team/messing around until playoffs 8. Had to practice on foreign ping / jetlag 9. Faker getting camped 10. Drake soul RNG 11. Other team cheesed 12. Lost to shopkeeper 13. Joe Marsh 14. Faker griefed by org and team 15. Not playing through bot 16. Zeus should have played carry 17. Blue side 18. Giving Annie + Wukong to the enemy 19. MSI London "food" 20. Naut and kindred are troll picks (gets smashed by the same pick btw)
as a T1 fan, no excuses here. BLG was defo the better team and their plays said it all. Hope they can get better and learn from mistakes to be ready for summer split and worlds.
Nah, they are absolutely finished at this point. I don't even think they will go to finals for LCK summer. Thier mental is so weak at this point. They are definitely splitting apart after this Worlds.
True ma friend. I think it was just mental breakdown, lets see if they recover or if they rebuild the team once more. On the other hand, very few teams managed to be at least top 3 for that long time, not saying it because i want to make an excuse, but havent seen teams being dominand or competitive for more tan 1 year and a half, even LPL teams struggle to reach finals on international events.
The amount of hopium here is insane, hope they came back and learn from their mistakes. Like wtf. Its literally mental diff, has been since 2021. There is no learning from mistake when your have weak ass wet noddle mental
@@NKR506 true, the mental diff is there, but they're still young (aside Faker) and either this breaks them or makes them better. It's too soon to say imo, even with all of the finals failures they've had.
Let’s hear it T1 fans, what’s the take: Drafts? Nautilus pick? Kindred pick? Limit Testing? Finals curse? Faker old? Blue side op? 35 ping? Korean Imports? Game Pause? Hungry?
If anyone has some spare cash, I recommend investing it into Korean trucking companies. Truck stocks gonna go up double. I also advise all South Koreans to avoid driving near GENG or T1 headquarters, theres gonna be some "light" traffic.
LCK always look like they are the best of the best and LPL looks messy in domestic but when it comes to international LPL really can pressure LCK teams
I literally called BLG vs JDG in FInals last week....the LPL style right now is the antithesis of LCK....they are so aggressive and decisive on fights. BLG even more so than JDG. I still have JDG winning in Finals
@@ndnd7614 It's really not about ADC. Indeed everytime LPL wins with bot gap, but seldom of them are in real ADC patch. The season 7 was the biggest adc patch ever and two korean teams are in the final. It seems like bot gap everytime but the truth is LPL has much better toplaner and jungler. (bot is more likely to be sacrificed by strategy) For jungler, Korea has canyon, and who else?(and Canyon is regressing tbh) Peanut and Oner can't do shit in major events. Wei outperform them, Jiejie outperform them, Xun outperformed Oner really hard(even though T1 bot took some silly trades when jungler is not around), Kanavi outperform them(the only korean). If u think its adc problem, just see how Viper and Ruler played giga well in LPL but turned to be mediocre in LCK. For toplaner, it is even more obvious, Zeus is fine and choke in finals, Doran is an absolute garbage all the time and even Caedrel says that, Burdol, Nuguri, are dogshit, Kiin never proved himself on international stage for once, Kingen is aatrox otp. But whats the biggest weakness of LPL. THE MIDLANER. There are multiple times where LPL have better players in any other role and solo lost by midlaner(like LNG HLE in s11, Ale >> Morgan, Tarzan > Willer, Light > Deft, Iwandy = Vsta, but Icon
@@platanusroad7685 agree with you. Rn mid lane is the weakest role, mages/assassins are bad (especially so in pro play), which is why LPL looks so good
JDG is scary though, I mean I’m not doubting BLG in any means, but JDG is THE super team, even in their series vs t1, they were never behind in game state and always in a strong position to win. The games they were ahead it felt like they chocked t1 out. But GL to BLG tomorrow, I love this teams resolve
Agreed. knight is the best mid player in this MSI, I can't say knight is the best in the world. But Canavi and Ruler is definitely the best Jungler and ADC in the world now. Also everyone knows how good 369 is.
Hey, T1 fan y'all are all looking for here. No excuses, T1 just got giga gapped by BLG. They for sure deserved this win, T1 and GenG much deserved the loss. Every single players in BLG outclassed opponent laners in T1 in pretty much in all aspects of the meta. Congratulations to LPL, here's just hoping LCK teams learned a few things from LPL and improve in the summer. I do realize there are delusional T1 fans who can't take Ls, because they already took too many Ls in real life. But I think most people are delusional losers in general, and T1 has a huge fan base so obviously, you'll see idiots spewing excuses. Let's hope EU and KR get their sht together in summer. ALSO, ily Caedrel! watching this tournament on your stream was honestly much more entertaining. I'm happy to see you're getting a lot more exposure to korean league fan base now.
So, a team that is extremely strong in their region, we can't favor or even like them? Faker is the face of League of Legends, change my mind. In Fall, they win 17-1, going to final, the series shift to GenG favor, T1 can't follow up with the meta shift, so they lose, easy to understand like that. Go to MSI, the meta goes to adc meta, almost every team is forced to play with their adc, it just which team play around their adc more win the game. If u look at T1 playstyle, they play around mid and jg the most, same with GenG, that y Chovy is the most important player in GenG team for carry. GenG's adc is not the better adc in this MSI, he is a consistent player, but not great that why they got outclassed by BLG. T1 has a chance against BLG than GenG, since there is Guma, but if BLG keeps camping him, and somehow T1 decision to play around mid and jg with this meta, it is easy to know why they lose so hard against BLG and JDG. At least they make LPL work for the MSI title
@@tsincostand3319 yeh that's why I'm puzzled why T1 stopped playing through botside... Instead of helping guma and getting him ahead like what they did in other msi games, they just ignore bot and let guma get dived again and again.
@DevilishNessx they probably didn't prepare for BLG. They thought GenG gonna to win against BLG, and there are like 10 to 12 hours to prepare. This series, BLG just play around Elk, and T1 tried comfort picks for their player, no more tank for their mid and top, which is out of meta pick, at least they put of a fight tho. Imagine in 20 mins, ur tank with 2 items get destroyed by an adc with 2 items under 10 seconds, so better peel win the game. JDG has a really good team for Ruler, just hope it will be a game 5
@@alfdlgnaat That's never the way how Choking is defined. Choking means u perform worse than you should be under the pressure, you can get that definition in esports information on the internet or from the meaning the word itself as well. Also, ur assumption is not logicall enough, what if the perception is wrong initially? We can easily tell by the gameplay that BLG is better than T1 at least for a while (its not one day or two day powerspike, the gap is not even close), and therefore we could conclude that the previous impression of these teams are not correct. If that is the case, why ur saying them "Choking" when its actually u having the wrong impression? T1 probably are indeed worse than BLG right now and they didn't really perform bad, it is what it is, ur perception does not change the objective essential of that relationship, so where's the "choking" part for them? Having the popularity doesn't mean they are the best, it's about they do have a lot of exposure on the western internet cuz more favored playstyle and being a democratic country with open internet. Jokic in Nuggets don't have much exposure as well, but he still beats Lakers with Lebron and Anthony Davis in it while hard gapping them. Is Lebron and Anthony Choking as well?
That is hardly choking. That is faker and the rest of T1 making more mistakes than usual under pressure. The kind of pressure they almost never felt in LCK.
The chat was disgusting with their sinophobic comments when the pause came out but went silent as soon as they found out that it was T1 who paused. Apparently, it is ok for T1 to pause without any reasons related to in-game issues but it is a crime for LPL teams to pause when there is a bug in the game. Disgusting
US 5 eyes propaganda media spread so much anti-China propaganda for decades, it's hard for them to even realize they have been so conditioned & brainwash to hate everything Chinese or China related. Good thing is it's changing slowly as more people getting to know the real China more but still US 5 eyes propaganda is state of art.
@@richardgibson1872 LOL it's not. There's a lot of brainwash anti-China trolls (pay or willingly) riding on LEC/LCS/LCK teams to bash Chinese teams, including bias casters. American government even have passed a bill (in 2020) of spending in additional $500 millions per year for spreading anti-China propaganda on top of what they have already been spending for decades. Most sheep has no clues how their so called "understanding of the world" have been spoon-fed to them via the state of art western 5 eyes propaganda military industrial complex of network globally.
this has nothing to do with the series but i discovered that blast plants spawn early on Chemtech rift before you know what rift it is. normally first blast plant spawns 8-10 seconds before buffs spawn, but with Chemtech rift its 20 seconds am i just stupid or did i discover something
5 Chinese > 10 Koreans ezpz Delusional lck fanboys crying in the basement Ngl, C9 and G2 could put up a better fight, Korean teams made it look like tutorials
Mid laners like Yagao who play for the team always get blamed when team loses but never get the praise when team wins, he has his int moments for sure but he is also so underrated as a player
faker ended his legacy in 2017. he's just playin' because he partly owns t1 but he's a washed up overrated player. there are new mid laners out there that are far better than him both mechanically and in teamfights, either in LCK or LPL
truck1 collected the second place in both the losers’ and winners’ bracket in one msi, what an achievement, they will probably get the second place in the swimming contest too because geng has a 1-day lead, really unfair for truck1
idk if this makes sense or not but i just checked T1 player contracts and it seems Zeus,Guma and Keria's contract ended in november 2023 just after Worlds.i guess their result in Worlds will determined whether the 3 will stay or not.im just guessing....
T1 about to shut down the office and the entire cast just gonna open a burger restaurant. Faker and Craps at MSI was just a horror to watch as a fan of them xdd
T1 fan here. T1 got gapped since draft. I personally think LPL teams just work better with one another compared to LCK teams where they are playing their own game. Even from the wins against JDG it was mostly because one player made multiple decisive plays in one team fight which lead to their 2 wins. There is no communication nor strategy I feel in LCK teams. T1 allows OP champions like Annie and Gragas to be open for the taking for no reason at all. T1 also allows multiple times for BLG to access their backline and just choke out Guma before any big fight happens. In my honest opinion, T1 with better drafting and stronger teamfight macro can definitely still have a strong chance at the Worlds to take it home. But before then? If they continue to play like this they will most definitely give the title to a much more coordinated team like BLG and JDG.
I don’t think t1 has a chance to win worlds, none of their players ever show up when it matters, constantly getting gapped, domestic success is meaningless, and their mental is so weak that I think they will most likely disband next year
@@elleeVee Against JDG we were blaming nautilus and kindred, and yet yagao and xun make kindred and nautilus work. We will say nothing about how in game 4 Keria and Guma kept aggressively trading when their jg was topside and got dove twice.
So... Are we finally ready to stop this absolutely INSANE narrative that players like Zeus and Keria are by far and away the best in their roles in the World or we need to keep up the farse??? And I ain't even gonna say anything about T1 mid-jungle duo, just laughs. Get Guma some FKNG help already, godammit.
@@sable6679 He wasn't great, but he was less trash (mostly) than the others. But the general point is: People overrate how good T1 players are individually.
@@HopefulNihilist Get Guma help? Where in this series did Guma do anything mildly impressive pretty much ever? The bot gap was by far the biggest gap in this series.
@@Kai_soze I am a NA Faker fan. Which is what I assume most people like me are supporting T1 for. But I am also learning Chinese, so all hail LPL superiority.
Like those T1 fans whose self-esteem cannot accept T1 got defeated say: "It's always the draft, from the coach of "the most successful e-sport club", who always pick the dumpiest draft in important games."
As a T1 fan, I think calling them just the better reason isn’t tackling the fact as to why they are better. Macro and team play for Chinese Teams are just better compared to LCK teams throughout this entire series. LCK players especially T1 have a tendency to brute force their way through games with pure mechanical skill which is something they undoubtedly have. But when faced against an opponent who knows how to counter that gap in skill with strategy and team play LCK teams fall apart and get thorn to shreds because they have always been able to find success by brute force. I hope that T1 can actually work on their drafting skills and team play. Just talking about the last game they played Jax just made no sense at all. Zeri + Lulu + Naut meant the Jax can never ever really reliably get to the ADC to stun her. Zeri also brought cleanse making it even worse for a Jax pick. Picking some other champion here would have been much better for sure. Gragas could have helped with peeling and pick potential but they opted for a short ranged Jax against a Fiora who can just parry his Counter Strike. I await their return in the Worlds.
Its really not that much of a miracle run, non LPL fans just are clueless. Bin is an msi champ, lpl champ and worlds finalist, xun has been one of the most elo helled prodigies in lpl for years before this team, yagao is like a 3 time LPL champ and 8 time lpl finalist and Elk was on one of the only 2 teams that beat EDG in a bo5 in 2021 (the other being RNG with bin). If you put together an LEC roster with those accomplishments it'd be a superteam. LPL is just so insane that this team can still be underdogs
BIN: JUST HATE ME AND I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF ME(yea he actually said it before cuz he‘s style is too aggressive and always trolled and people blame him for that)
If keria wants to win an international title he needs to leave this team. Oner’s pathing is terrible, Zeus can’t carry like bin and is inconsistent, Faker is washed and Guma relies too much on keria’s performance as well as the state of the meta. Keria has been carrying this team for over a year now, it’s time to move on
The worst thing is Keria's mental state seems getting weaker and weaker, been losing final or important matches ever since. And true if he wants to have his name side with Mata and Beryl he needs to leave, whether it's LCK or LPL
@@yulwu6758 faker bengi coach duo sounds good, keria should join viper and have both of them go lpl again, Viper signed a death warrant of going HLE probably for Asia games,
How many big games do t1 have to lose before people start questioning whether the roster needs changing. Every tournament t1 look like favorites, but as the tournament goes on certain members just seem to consistently crumble under pressure. Dying with flash up, getting solo-killed from full hp by a sion, being overaggressive in pivotal moments and just getting turned on.
used to be a big lol fan just when Faker was starting and did his crazy Zed play 1v1, now I'm just watching a few matches, but I watched T1 vs BLG and JDG and tbh I haven't seen Faker play well at all, some mistakes here and there and his Nauti isn't that impressive imo (compared to other midlaners). This is not meant to be an offense to Faker, but oh how the mighty have fallen.
As a T1 can I think Faker hasn’t exactly fallen but his Naut does really suck. Personally I think Faker on champions like Ksante and Annie even Ahri in this series he does make good plays overall. Unsure why Naut has been such a struggle for him.
@@YCHTT that and also I believe that t1 should stick to creating their own meta...like bin just locks Jax Gwen irrespective of meta and makes it work. Who knows when they will learn
@@sgcolt8969 it is quite obvious that Faker isnt comfortable on that champion. In pro play konwing how to play a champion isnt really enough when you facing against top tier players. There has been multiple times where Faker Naut just isnt doing what he is supposed to be doing. It is evident that they just follow any curretn meta and like you said dont think of what they can do regardless of meta picks. Bin has all sorts of off meta picks like Gnar and Fiora but makes it work because he is comfortable on those champions. STill need to look at the comps but being able to pull ouf pocket picks is something T1 just dont have.
I don't understand how in a meta that is so ADC focused T1 just ignores bot lane.. Elk solo carried this series and Ruler solo carried the JDG T1 series.. This was all set up thru mid to bot pressure which T1 refused to answer..
To be fair, Elk and On had the advantage in botlane even before Xun came in all 4 games. It's really just a bot gap that enabled Xun to make those dive plays.
LOL what do you mean solo carried? Xun worked his behind off setting so much stuff up. His last game vision scores was even over 150+ more than both supports. Then you have GigaBin carrying, Yagoat doing the important cc play and On keeping Elkylove safe & make play sometimes. It's a 5 man team, stop saying 1 person carried the whole team.
I think if T1 played in the LPL they would be the best team or tied with JDG.. T1 just like Gen G isn't used to this hyper aggressive engages and disengage to re engage.
Could go either way. They could improve or continue to be skill checked and intimidated by the best LPL teams. T1 played scared in games 2 and 3. BLG is the epitome of what a LPL is
@@MassGainerNA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KEEP COPING TRUCK 1 TURD HAHAHAHAHA truck 1 would get ez clapped every game in lpl just like today and be last place, lck = farmers league confirmed.
What happeneed to keria playing adc support. Nobody was doing it like him, I know it got nerfed but it is still viable from my understanding. Did they just forget what they were known for this LCK or am I missing something. I am genuinely confused by their god awful performance. Being a T1 fan hurts right now.
Series against JDG T1 drafted horribly, but this time BLG just performed better than T1 although not really a fan of T1's draft in game 4. LPL once again bested lck this MSI hoping that LCK will improve and maybe dominate this years Worlds like last year
Blgs draft is even worse. If u swap these two comp. Pretty sure you would still blame t1 for bad draft. Its inevitable at this point that t1 fans just going to blame draft every time. No exception.
@@martin32074 What are you on about? I just said I personally didn’t like their draft not that it was bad and that BLG just performed better overall. if you’re just here to shit on any t1 fan then don’t bother no one needs that toxicity outside the game
@@martin32074 That's gotta be the stupidest draft argument I've ever heard. If T1 had BLG's draft it absouletly would have been shit, because they are not BLG and prefer other comps.
The LPL cheated for sure. That pause was 100% intentional, resulting in the coffee spill on T1’s side, which got on the keyboard and caused a 0.00001s delay in input, which lost them the game. Unfair!!
Keyboard caused gumayushi ping become 35!!
UK Fish and chips made T1 lose
😂😂
Shaker actually making his teammates shake.
but it was fact 😂
How can you not love this team? Gigabin, Elkylove, YaGoat, even their psycho coach Tabe. Proving the doubters wrong at every turn. BLG v JDG round 4 lets gooooo!!!
Actually It's Round #5 but LFG!
GigaBin is cracked but his nemesis 369 always gaps him
@@MassGainerNA True, 369 usually outclass bin because of his champion pool and teamfight performance
lol elkylove
@@zehualiu1643 at least he doesn't int
It’s so insane just how much better blg look against t1 and geng, they both just got so outclassed it’s unbelievable
i dont think t1 was outclassed like gen g was. game 2 draft was so bad they gave away a game for free
@@mortystraphouse5077I mean, game 3 draft by blg was even worse. Gave away kisante, which was permabanned for like 10 games between top teams
@@mortystraphouse5077 Yeah yeah yeah Drafts, mean while Bin is like I play whatever I like.
@@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 he had to commit for the prediction
Nice of Caedrel to dress up for T1's funeral
brohahahahha
Dude it very much could be, if they don't make this Worlds, this roster is done.
@@edwardwongliupepelutivrusk1262 T1 is so confusing, going from best team to losing and looking to be struggling to make worlds, to get to world finals dominantly, then looks like best team at msi, then goes 3rd and then look like the roster is done, THEN THEY WIN WORLDS AND ITS HAPPENING AGAIN. t1 is bipolar
@@makkaroni07wouldnt say T1 underperformed at MSI (not during the elimination matches anyways). BLG and GENG were simply better. T1 overperformed at worlds
BLGs run this MSI reminds me of DRX's run during last Worlds
All of us got reminded, hopefully they can complete the miracle run, its hard but doable
Tbh this is way more clean run. Drx got to reverse sweep and stuff. They was not looking better but winning st the end. This blg it’s just destroying whoever they facing
This is flat out more impressive tbh. Doesn't have the flashy narratives and the cinderella story, but it's overall way harder.
DRX only needed to win 5 Bo5's in total to win Worlds (starting from the LCK gauntlet), BLG have already played 11 Bo5's... and they will play their 12th tommorow.
But it's MSI who cares about that
@@caseydrought867 L 🤡
They said Nautilus mid is the problem , they said Kindred is the problem.
BLG showing LCK how to win with Kindred and Naut mid
It's all about who is playing them, even first pick nautilus, still win the game and did a lot in the late game. I must say yagao is the MVP for the game 4.
True as fuck
They said leaving jinx open lost them the game
@@fjdkslfjdkwhgioperwhgjkoldsf i mean against ruler u can’t give him jinx
Lpl haters in shambles. GG WP TO BLG!
Let's see what excuse T1 fans come up with this time
Choose your pick:
1. Coach fucked up the draft
2. Too cocky drafting losing lanes
3. 35 Ping
4. T1 weren't trying
5. Guma not on traditional AD
6. Faker not on carry
7. Disrespected other team/messing around until playoffs
8. Had to practice on foreign ping / jetlag
9. Faker getting camped
10. Drake soul RNG
11. Other team cheesed
12. Lost to shopkeeper
13. Joe Marsh
14. Faker griefed by org and team
15. Not playing through bot
16. Zeus should have played carry
17. Blue side
18. Giving Annie + Wukong to the enemy
19. MSI London "food"
20. Naut and kindred are troll picks (gets smashed by the same pick btw)
This time I can say that BLG jist was better. Faker and Oner werent in Form
Bro is salty af
The excuse is already planted in the game 4.
Coffe fucked up Guma’s keyboard, QWER plus F don’t work
I think most t1 fans are just disappointed, myself included. Hurts to see them make simple mistakes when they looked so dominant before.
You forgot "LPL has Koreans", toxic LCK fans are really funny 😂
as a T1 fan, no excuses here. BLG was defo the better team and their plays said it all. Hope they can get better and learn from mistakes to be ready for summer split and worlds.
Cringe comment, use your brain and write something new
Nah, they are absolutely finished at this point. I don't even think they will go to finals for LCK summer. Thier mental is so weak at this point. They are definitely splitting apart after this Worlds.
True ma friend. I think it was just mental breakdown, lets see if they recover or if they rebuild the team once more. On the other hand, very few teams managed to be at least top 3 for that long time, not saying it because i want to make an excuse, but havent seen teams being dominand or competitive for more tan 1 year and a half, even LPL teams struggle to reach finals on international events.
The amount of hopium here is insane, hope they came back and learn from their mistakes. Like wtf.
Its literally mental diff, has been since 2021. There is no learning from mistake when your have weak ass wet noddle mental
@@NKR506 true, the mental diff is there, but they're still young (aside Faker) and either this breaks them or makes them better. It's too soon to say imo, even with all of the finals failures they've had.
I wonder what's the excuse this time?
3 CN + 2 KR & 5 CN >> 5 KR
GENG and T1 were hiding something for the grand finals... wait it was their flight ticket for Korea 😍
Least racist league player
@@cyder_6406 Bruh its the LCK fans that say this. LPL fans just proving them wrong.
CN+KR together shud be celebrated, not weaponized. not saying you're doing that
@@dunzhen Tell that to the LCK trolls seriously. The CN players and KR players respect each other. It's the T1 fans who are annoying.
LPL fans eating well last couple of days
i got filet mignon on my plate
Let’s hear it T1 fans, what’s the take: Drafts? Nautilus pick? Kindred pick? Limit Testing? Finals curse? Faker old? Blue side op? 35 ping? Korean Imports? Game Pause? Hungry?
Room temperature in stadium too cold, hotel beds are uncomfortable, refs have the wrong zodiac sign XD
How about guma not being able to output enough dmg with his positioning during team fights?
@@devonchia5976 shhhh that's admitting it's a skill issue
Guma dropped coffee on his mouse pad, so he was playing at his 30%of his power
@@devonchia5976you can't tell reality here, only excuses are acceptable.
If anyone has some spare cash, I recommend investing it into Korean trucking companies. Truck stocks gonna go up double. I also advise all South Koreans to avoid driving near GENG or T1 headquarters, theres gonna be some "light" traffic.
LCK always look like they are the best of the best and LPL looks messy in domestic but when it comes to international LPL really can pressure LCK teams
I literally called BLG vs JDG in FInals last week....the LPL style right now is the antithesis of LCK....they are so aggressive and decisive on fights. BLG even more so than JDG. I still have JDG winning in Finals
It’s cos it’s an ADC meta which the LPL thrive in all the time
@@ndnd7614 It's really not about ADC. Indeed everytime LPL wins with bot gap, but seldom of them are in real ADC patch. The season 7 was the biggest adc patch ever and two korean teams are in the final. It seems like bot gap everytime but the truth is LPL has much better toplaner and jungler. (bot is more likely to be sacrificed by strategy)
For jungler, Korea has canyon, and who else?(and Canyon is regressing tbh) Peanut and Oner can't do shit in major events. Wei outperform them, Jiejie outperform them, Xun outperformed Oner really hard(even though T1 bot took some silly trades when jungler is not around), Kanavi outperform them(the only korean). If u think its adc problem, just see how Viper and Ruler played giga well in LPL but turned to be mediocre in LCK.
For toplaner, it is even more obvious, Zeus is fine and choke in finals, Doran is an absolute garbage all the time and even Caedrel says that, Burdol, Nuguri, are dogshit, Kiin never proved himself on international stage for once, Kingen is aatrox otp.
But whats the biggest weakness of LPL. THE MIDLANER. There are multiple times where LPL have better players in any other role and solo lost by midlaner(like LNG HLE in s11, Ale >> Morgan, Tarzan > Willer, Light > Deft, Iwandy = Vsta, but Icon
@@platanusroad7685 agree with you. Rn mid lane is the weakest role, mages/assassins are bad (especially so in pro play), which is why LPL looks so good
LPL macro has been giga underrated. T1's macro has been terrible a lot of MSI they just force baron and hope everyone dies
@@ndnd7614 back in s8 mid and top were the meta LPL won their first worlds
XUN too good, Kindred and Khazix are turbo int picks for other junglers.
T1 is like your favorite tv show, every season was a masterpiece but the season finale is a let down.
It's already been like this for 6 seasons :(
Its really disappointing tbh
JDG is scary though, I mean I’m not doubting BLG in any means, but JDG is THE super team, even in their series vs t1, they were never behind in game state and always in a strong position to win. The games they were ahead it felt like they chocked t1 out. But GL to BLG tomorrow, I love this teams resolve
Agreed. knight is the best mid player in this MSI, I can't say knight is the best in the world. But Canavi and Ruler is definitely the best Jungler and ADC in the world now. Also everyone knows how good 369 is.
Its all about who can play better around their ADC
@@Shinfyq not faker and oner
@@mohamedelnaggar2688 Got gigagapped every role Kekw
The games where they lost were also even before T1 got super lucky aces
RESPECT BLG
Respect BIN
Why do you spoil it
@@mum8les384 why would you read the comments before finishing the series..
@@SupbarXD on mobile it shows the top comment without having to open the comments. Unfortunate
@@cilz5065 ah, rip then
Blg has so far played 17 bo5 this year
They have leveled up beyond belief. So has JDG though. MSI has been amazing for the LPL
So they will play another one at MSI and then some more in summer. Imagine they play 30 BO5s in 1 year.
How?? They played only 11(12 with tomorrow match). 6 in lpl and 6 msi
@@kerim5187 they have played 14 Bo5 , (15 with the MSI finals) (3 demacia cup, 6 in LPL playoffs and 6 in MSI)
@Stallion M plus wbg cup although technically it was at the very end of 22
Hey, T1 fan y'all are all looking for here. No excuses, T1 just got giga gapped by BLG. They for sure deserved this win, T1 and GenG much deserved the loss. Every single players in BLG outclassed opponent laners in T1 in pretty much in all aspects of the meta. Congratulations to LPL, here's just hoping LCK teams learned a few things from LPL and improve in the summer.
I do realize there are delusional T1 fans who can't take Ls, because they already took too many Ls in real life. But I think most people are delusional losers in general, and T1 has a huge fan base so obviously, you'll see idiots spewing excuses. Let's hope EU and KR get their sht together in summer.
ALSO, ily Caedrel! watching this tournament on your stream was honestly much more entertaining. I'm happy to see you're getting a lot more exposure to korean league fan base now.
Human t1 fan pog
So, a team that is extremely strong in their region, we can't favor or even like them? Faker is the face of League of Legends, change my mind. In Fall, they win 17-1, going to final, the series shift to GenG favor, T1 can't follow up with the meta shift, so they lose, easy to understand like that. Go to MSI, the meta goes to adc meta, almost every team is forced to play with their adc, it just which team play around their adc more win the game. If u look at T1 playstyle, they play around mid and jg the most, same with GenG, that y Chovy is the most important player in GenG team for carry. GenG's adc is not the better adc in this MSI, he is a consistent player, but not great that why they got outclassed by BLG. T1 has a chance against BLG than GenG, since there is Guma, but if BLG keeps camping him, and somehow T1 decision to play around mid and jg with this meta, it is easy to know why they lose so hard against BLG and JDG. At least they make LPL work for the MSI title
@@tsincostand3319 yeh that's why I'm puzzled why T1 stopped playing through botside... Instead of helping guma and getting him ahead like what they did in other msi games, they just ignore bot and let guma get dived again and again.
@DevilishNessx they probably didn't prepare for BLG. They thought GenG gonna to win against BLG, and there are like 10 to 12 hours to prepare. This series, BLG just play around Elk, and T1 tried comfort picks for their player, no more tank for their mid and top, which is out of meta pick, at least they put of a fight tho. Imagine in 20 mins, ur tank with 2 items get destroyed by an adc with 2 items under 10 seconds, so better peel win the game. JDG has a really good team for Ruler, just hope it will be a game 5
I mean BLG had to go from GEN straight to T1, they are even more handicapped
t1 and GenG definitely scrimmed each other lmaoooo
Yagao showing Faker how to play Nautghtylus
knight and the toothpaste meeting in the finals for the nth time
Loser bracket final is also a final, so T1 will inevitably choke😅
I’d say it’s hardly a choke here. BLG just outplayed them and was a better team. Chinese teams are friggin beasts at teamfight this MSI.
@@bounw21 choking is when a higher seed or team perceived to be better loses. this was a choke
@@alfdlgnaat That's never the way how Choking is defined. Choking means u perform worse than you should be under the pressure, you can get that definition in esports information on the internet or from the meaning the word itself as well.
Also, ur assumption is not logicall enough, what if the perception is wrong initially? We can easily tell by the gameplay that BLG is better than T1 at least for a while (its not one day or two day powerspike, the gap is not even close), and therefore we could conclude that the previous impression of these teams are not correct. If that is the case, why ur saying them "Choking" when its actually u having the wrong impression? T1 probably are indeed worse than BLG right now and they didn't really perform bad, it is what it is, ur perception does not change the objective essential of that relationship, so where's the "choking" part for them?
Having the popularity doesn't mean they are the best, it's about they do have a lot of exposure on the western internet cuz more favored playstyle and being a democratic country with open internet. Jokic in Nuggets don't have much exposure as well, but he still beats Lakers with Lebron and Anthony Davis in it while hard gapping them. Is Lebron and Anthony Choking as well?
@@alfdlgnaat Isn't that called an upset?
That is hardly choking. That is faker and the rest of T1 making more mistakes than usual under pressure. The kind of pressure they almost never felt in LCK.
bro this MSI has been crazy and i love it
Just arrived from my vacation, I assume G2 is waiting in the finals?
Yeah, faker tweeted "cant wait to clap caps" and then got mid gapped by caps every game which is why t1 is in the losers bracket
@@ashark8968 And they shall play...
In the airport KEKW
LPL only finals proves how big the gap is from China and the rest of the world rn
We wont be hearing from the Light for awhile 😂
The chat was disgusting with their sinophobic comments when the pause came out but went silent as soon as they found out that it was T1 who paused. Apparently, it is ok for T1 to pause without any reasons related to in-game issues but it is a crime for LPL teams to pause when there is a bug in the game. Disgusting
US 5 eyes propaganda media spread so much anti-China propaganda for decades, it's hard for them to even realize they have been so conditioned & brainwash to hate everything Chinese or China related. Good thing is it's changing slowly as more people getting to know the real China more but still US 5 eyes propaganda is state of art.
it's just mostly t1 shaker fans. if you go to weibo or any chinese chat you would see the same comments but to the opposing team
@@richardgibson1872 LOL it's not. There's a lot of brainwash anti-China trolls (pay or willingly) riding on LEC/LCS/LCK teams to bash Chinese teams, including bias casters. American government even have passed a bill (in 2020) of spending in additional $500 millions per year for spreading anti-China propaganda on top of what they have already been spending for decades. Most sheep has no clues how their so called "understanding of the world" have been spoon-fed to them via the state of art western 5 eyes propaganda military industrial complex of network globally.
this has nothing to do with the series but i discovered that blast plants spawn early on Chemtech rift before you know what rift it is. normally first blast plant spawns 8-10 seconds before buffs spawn, but with Chemtech rift its 20 seconds am i just stupid or did i discover something
well... where you right or not? this is interesting
Choker vs Baba Yagao you gotta love it
kinght vs yagao is inevitable
Whose fault is it this time to blame instead of Faker getting gapped every series? 35 ping, Zeus , Oner ?
5 Chinese > 10 Koreans ezpz
Delusional lck fanboys crying in the basement
Ngl, C9 and G2 could put up a better fight, Korean teams made it look like tutorials
2 Korean will beat them again
T1 lost game 4 despite Elk's best effort.
It’s crazy how broken ksante is even after the big needs he got
Honestly, even though i'm an LPL enjoyer, I would have loved to see another T1 vs JDG at their top form.
Gotta pray for worlds.🙏
Every time I hear Caedrel talk about Yagao he calls him a fraud. So who's the real fraud now?
faker
Mid laners like Yagao who play for the team always get blamed when team loses but never get the praise when team wins, he has his int moments for sure but he is also so underrated as a player
Do you even watch lpl? The guys fucking sprints it always
TBH. Yagao was pretty off this year. BLG wasn't a very strong team turning the regular season of LPL. Noone expected them to make it to MSI.
Yagao has always been a fraud LOL who's the real fraud now?
Faker: My era never ends
BLG: Nah I'll end it now
faker ended his legacy in 2017. he's just playin' because he partly owns t1 but he's a washed up overrated player. there are new mid laners out there that are far better than him both mechanically and in teamfights, either in LCK or LPL
@@richardgibson1872even if he isnt the best in the world he isnt a bad mid. No reason to retire already.
@@alex2005z I never said he should retire. I was responding to the comment that faker's era is not over
@@richardgibson1872statements about faker's era being over are very much exaggerated
elk u absolute madman
hi caedrel, I super like your live game analysis. I don't have time to watch twitch so it is a great relief to have your videos after my work.
truck1 collected the second place in both the losers’ and winners’ bracket in one msi, what an achievement, they will probably get the second place in the swimming contest too because geng has a 1-day lead, really unfair for truck1
Trucks incoming
Eighteen wheelers, in fact
Someone check LS’s mental state
He even muted Tabe interview & left mid way in his stream LOL. These brainwash Sinophobia so called influencers made me laughed so much.
The only mid laner gapped by Yagao.
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leave yabad alone D:
And chovy?
idk if this makes sense or not but i just checked T1 player contracts and it seems Zeus,Guma and Keria's contract ended in november 2023 just after Worlds.i guess their result in Worlds will determined whether the 3 will stay or not.im just guessing....
The tux needs to come out more often Marc!
you know the coaches are good when they pick exactly what pedro says
EDITORR BLINK TWICE IF YOU NEED HELP
YOU. SHALL. NOT. SPOIL!
T1 about to shut down the office and the entire cast just gonna open a burger restaurant. Faker and Craps at MSI was just a horror to watch as a fan of them xdd
LPL 🔛🔝
Looking at the thumbnail I thought T1 won 3:0 KEKW. Where is the credit to T1's opponent?
The title is also pretty misleading making it seems it's the grand final LOL
T1 fan here. T1 got gapped since draft. I personally think LPL teams just work better with one another compared to LCK teams where they are playing their own game. Even from the wins against JDG it was mostly because one player made multiple decisive plays in one team fight which lead to their 2 wins. There is no communication nor strategy I feel in LCK teams. T1 allows OP champions like Annie and Gragas to be open for the taking for no reason at all. T1 also allows multiple times for BLG to access their backline and just choke out Guma before any big fight happens. In my honest opinion, T1 with better drafting and stronger teamfight macro can definitely still have a strong chance at the Worlds to take it home. But before then? If they continue to play like this they will most definitely give the title to a much more coordinated team like BLG and JDG.
I don’t think t1 has a chance to win worlds, none of their players ever show up when it matters, constantly getting gapped, domestic success is meaningless, and their mental is so weak that I think they will most likely disband next year
cope. plastic surgery region and their turd fans get exposed again. easy clap for blg
No matter what happens T1 fans will blame draft
@@NerfMaster07 cuz its always draft diff
@@elleeVee Against JDG we were blaming nautilus and kindred, and yet yagao and xun make kindred and nautilus work. We will say nothing about how in game 4 Keria and Guma kept aggressively trading when their jg was topside and got dove twice.
LPL truly the king of MSI . Last game for Guma too o7 Bye ~
So... Are we finally ready to stop this absolutely INSANE narrative that players like Zeus and Keria are by far and away the best in their roles in the World or we need to keep up the farse??? And I ain't even gonna say anything about T1 mid-jungle duo, just laughs.
Get Guma some FKNG help already, godammit.
gumayushi didn’t even play that well…like how he got caught with flash and gale force up in game 4
@@sable6679
He wasn't great, but he was less trash (mostly) than the others. But the general point is: People overrate how good T1 players are individually.
@@HopefulNihilist Yet guma is not overrated? Brother can't even play a zeri game he not even close to the other elite adcs at MSI
@@Cashmoneez
I think that's going a little too far but I can't really fight you much on it. Him not having Zeri tho is a BIG problem.
@@HopefulNihilist Get Guma help? Where in this series did Guma do anything mildly impressive pretty much ever? The bot gap was by far the biggest gap in this series.
Here before T1 fans come up with excuses for this loss
I’m guessing T1 fans will be Mia for a while now
@@Kai_soze I am a NA Faker fan. Which is what I assume most people like me are supporting T1 for. But I am also learning Chinese, so all hail LPL superiority.
My money is on the map side argument or ping.
Like those T1 fans whose self-esteem cannot accept T1 got defeated say: "It's always the draft, from the coach of "the most successful e-sport club", who always pick the dumpiest draft in important games."
can’t wait to see what excuses lck fans make this time…lpl is just the better region blg 6-1 lck #1 and #2 seed
As a T1 fan, I think calling them just the better reason isn’t tackling the fact as to why they are better. Macro and team play for Chinese Teams are just better compared to LCK teams throughout this entire series. LCK players especially T1 have a tendency to brute force their way through games with pure mechanical skill which is something they undoubtedly have. But when faced against an opponent who knows how to counter that gap in skill with strategy and team play LCK teams fall apart and get thorn to shreds because they have always been able to find success by brute force. I hope that T1 can actually work on their drafting skills and team play. Just talking about the last game they played Jax just made no sense at all. Zeri + Lulu + Naut meant the Jax can never ever really reliably get to the ADC to stun her. Zeri also brought cleanse making it even worse for a Jax pick. Picking some other champion here would have been much better for sure. Gragas could have helped with peeling and pick potential but they opted for a short ranged Jax against a Fiora who can just parry his Counter Strike. I await their return in the Worlds.
Speaking of the better region...
Bin saving mental for LPL summer split
BLG miracle run
Its really not that much of a miracle run, non LPL fans just are clueless. Bin is an msi champ, lpl champ and worlds finalist, xun has been one of the most elo helled prodigies in lpl for years before this team, yagao is like a 3 time LPL champ and 8 time lpl finalist and Elk was on one of the only 2 teams that beat EDG in a bo5 in 2021 (the other being RNG with bin). If you put together an LEC roster with those accomplishments it'd be a superteam. LPL is just so insane that this team can still be underdogs
The take no one is ready to accept Keria is hardstuck
Faker had a ruff msi
BIN: JUST HATE ME AND I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF ME(yea he actually said it before cuz he‘s style is too aggressive and always trolled and people blame him for that)
I love his trash talk. Those are very funny
Fun fact: T1 since its establishment in 2019-2-25, never won any worldwide champion title yet.
they're an old washed up organization. SKT is the one that gets them the titles but even with the old name, they're mostly just for show
update: they won worlds 2023
@@richardgibson1872 a washed organization winning worlds 2023, demolishing the whole lpl xd
Updates 2024 worlds 😂😂
t1 gen g the real finals
Not T1 biased btw 💀
If keria wants to win an international title he needs to leave this team. Oner’s pathing is terrible, Zeus can’t carry like bin and is inconsistent, Faker is washed and Guma relies too much on keria’s performance as well as the state of the meta. Keria has been carrying this team for over a year now, it’s time to move on
The worst thing is Keria's mental state seems getting weaker and weaker, been losing final or important matches ever since. And true if he wants to have his name side with Mata and Beryl he needs to leave, whether it's LCK or LPL
they need to retire faker and make him coach or something. To put him in the best team LCK has to offer just doesnt cut it
@@yulwu6758 faker bengi coach duo sounds good, keria should join viper and have both of them go lpl again, Viper signed a death warrant of going HLE probably for Asia games,
He just need to join LPL teams xD
Where is 1080? :(
Too early for spoiler block guy FML
Faker carried game 3 and 4
If only T1 got Beryl and Kiin....and maybe Chovy, Viper and Canyon.
i am kinda a t1 hater and i have to say Keria is actually the best supp in the world. Kicking him is stupid. They should change mid/jg tho
@@adrianrivera3255best supp in the world xddd. After the on masterass vs him.
buy a lottery ticket bois were in a new era and you could be a millionare in that era. Just convert your winnings to Yuan :o
what? 29:13
So early the highest quality is 480p
Back again for the same story at Worlds
Saturday was really a bad day...
T1 lose and
I missed the Fast X movie Saturday because I thought I booked it for Sunday.
What a bad Saturday...FML
got a kinder egg ad right after pedro said it 😭
Still don’t get how xun got the canyon treatment
The best timeline
How many big games do t1 have to lose before people start questioning whether the roster needs changing. Every tournament t1 look like favorites, but as the tournament goes on certain members just seem to consistently crumble under pressure. Dying with flash up, getting solo-killed from full hp by a sion, being overaggressive in pivotal moments and just getting turned on.
Xddd
used to be a big lol fan just when Faker was starting and did his crazy Zed play 1v1, now I'm just watching a few matches, but I watched T1 vs BLG and JDG and tbh I haven't seen Faker play well at all, some mistakes here and there and his Nauti isn't that impressive imo (compared to other midlaners). This is not meant to be an offense to Faker, but oh how the mighty have fallen.
As a T1 can I think Faker hasn’t exactly fallen but his Naut does really suck. Personally I think Faker on champions like Ksante and Annie even Ahri in this series he does make good plays overall. Unsure why Naut has been such a struggle for him.
On the other hand, his naut won them the game1 against mad Lions. So I don't understand what even went wrong lol
Because he got gapped by LPL teams that's why. But he did very well with Ksante though.
@@YCHTT that and also I believe that t1 should stick to creating their own meta...like bin just locks Jax Gwen irrespective of meta and makes it work. Who knows when they will learn
@@sgcolt8969 it is quite obvious that Faker isnt comfortable on that champion. In pro play konwing how to play a champion isnt really enough when you facing against top tier players. There has been multiple times where Faker Naut just isnt doing what he is supposed to be doing. It is evident that they just follow any curretn meta and like you said dont think of what they can do regardless of meta picks. Bin has all sorts of off meta picks like Gnar and Fiora but makes it work because he is comfortable on those champions. STill need to look at the comps but being able to pull ouf pocket picks is something T1 just dont have.
국제전이 젤 재밌다..!!😎🍿
BABA YAGAO
I hope we can finally agree that T1 are chokers
I don't understand how in a meta that is so ADC focused T1 just ignores bot lane.. Elk solo carried this series and Ruler solo carried the JDG T1 series.. This was all set up thru mid to bot pressure which T1 refused to answer..
To be fair, Elk and On had the advantage in botlane even before Xun came in all 4 games. It's really just a bot gap that enabled Xun to make those dive plays.
LOL what do you mean solo carried? Xun worked his behind off setting so much stuff up. His last game vision scores was even over 150+ more than both supports. Then you have GigaBin carrying, Yagoat doing the important cc play and On keeping Elkylove safe & make play sometimes. It's a 5 man team, stop saying 1 person carried the whole team.
your plant isn't growing bro water it
How would T1 do if they played in the LPL
How many comments do you wanna write? Its sad honestly, just calm down and wait for Worlds, so we can see t1 fumble it again. But stfu fr ur sad :)
I think if T1 played in the LPL they would be the best team or tied with JDG.. T1 just like Gen G isn't used to this hyper aggressive engages and disengage to re engage.
@@MassGainerNA Still coping I see
Could go either way. They could improve or continue to be skill checked and intimidated by the best LPL teams. T1 played scared in games 2 and 3. BLG is the epitome of what a LPL is
@@MassGainerNA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KEEP COPING TRUCK 1 TURD HAHAHAHAHA truck 1 would get ez clapped every game in lpl just like today and be last place, lck = farmers league confirmed.
Elk is a psychopath
What happeneed to keria playing adc support. Nobody was doing it like him, I know it got nerfed but it is still viable from my understanding. Did they just forget what they were known for this LCK or am I missing something. I am genuinely confused by their god awful performance. Being a T1 fan hurts right now.
ADC support nerfed on MSI patch
The meta is entirely focussed on teamfights from 20 mins on, ADC sups get you an advantage in lane but do nothing in a 5v5.
❤ Spoiler block ❤
Keria underperformed today. Too easily tilted
He was donezo after that second game.
Spoiler Block
Is there time for roster changes?
They choke all the time.
Imagine faker/oner out in showmaker/canyon.
Waow!!
🚛🚛🚛 👉 T1
Series against JDG T1 drafted horribly, but this time BLG just performed better than T1 although not really a fan of T1's draft in game 4. LPL once again bested lck this MSI hoping that LCK will improve and maybe dominate this years Worlds like last year
There wasn't a game five in this series my guy
@@Goonjie Typo meant 4 accidentally pressed 5 mb
Blgs draft is even worse. If u swap these two comp. Pretty sure you would still blame t1 for bad draft. Its inevitable at this point that t1 fans just going to blame draft every time. No exception.
@@martin32074 What are you on about? I just said I personally didn’t like their draft not that it was bad and that BLG just performed better overall. if you’re just here to shit on any t1 fan then don’t bother no one needs that toxicity outside the game
@@martin32074 That's gotta be the stupidest draft argument I've ever heard. If T1 had BLG's draft it absouletly would have been shit, because they are not BLG and prefer other comps.
was Zeus the best top laner, was Keria the best player in the world
They all got schooled by 369, Bin, On & Missing
yes
LPL >>>> LCK
I alr knew t1 was gonna lose blg just rolled them