Funny everyone complaining about the front fender and plate when its possibly the only dirt bike front end I've ever liked and didn't think grossly threw off the visual balance of the bike; there's a bike that finally looks balanced front-to-back. I've always thought front fenders overlong, and they could annoyingly flop around (especially when caked with dirt) and I just didnt really see the point (or now, the appeal) of them being so long when they're functionally no better (if not worse) and they look worse.
Absolutely love my 2022 YZ450F but this new bike is going to be a real force, especially for Supercross. And of course, Yamaha power and reliability. If Eli gets excited when asked about the bike, that’s a good sign. 😊
Excellent review! This is the best review to date on this new Yamaha bike. Thanks for putting up the map screen @ 12:30. You always do a great job on these tests.
@@mxriderdakar You can setup a lot of things on a dirtbike that changes the balance. Front forks height, steering clamp front/back, rear wheel front/back. So why not the pegs?
good review, can't wait till you get some time on it in different track conditions to give more feedback, its an improvement over last year's bike even if its only the weight and being slimmer at the shrouds
My only real 2 complaint on all these bikes are they are becoming expensive and that they should do like stark future, selling them with the good rider spring rate.
So what you're saying is that now I have to buy a 2023? I am just now getting use to my 2018! Oh well hopefully I will get a good trade-in for my 2018, its only got 30 hrs on it. It still has that new car smell.🤣
If they took the 2009 YZF and gave it the same treatment Kawasaki gave their KX450 you'd have a clear market leader. Other brands are getting huge power with standard cylinder layout, so I don't get why they persist with the one thing that deters and annoys people the most.
Just purchased 23 ME edition of 450f and when I first cranked it the header pipe got extremely hot changing color to almost glowing red very quick. I rode it for about 5 minutes just barely 1/8 throttle and let it cool. Second time same thing the first section got extremely hot again. Within about a minute or two, Should I be Concerned or is this common with a brand new racer? Any thoughts
I love everything I'm seeing except the front fender and front number plate. Do they have the same bolt pattern/location as the 2021? If I can put my '21 front plastics on one of these like I did with my early 2010's Honda's I'm sold
You won’t be able to use older number plates on this bike. The front brake cable is supported by the number plate. The front brake cable is now routed behind the plate for a cleaner look. There is no threaded hole on the lower triple clamp for the old style cable guide to bolt on.
@@vitalmx dang, should I just wait and buy then??? Wanting to buy a 250fx. I have been torn between the 250fx and the crf250rx….. Maybe I should just go with the rx, thoughts?
Sounds like a real good improvement. I recall couple years ago when they updated the front axle it made the steering character more neutral, rather than the rear steer that it had been. With the agility character is it getting even more feeling on the front end?
Dude, 5mm is nothing. It's 1/5th of an inch. Do you honestly think ANYONE other than a top pro could tell the difference? That's the difference of a summer sock vs a winter sock. Come on, how much did Yamaha pay you
I always say that if you want to hear an honest review about a bike in a shootout, wait a year until next years bike comes out. Once next years bike comes you guys actually open up about what was bad about the previous bike and mention all of the bad things about it. All of the negative things youre saying here about last years bike you didnt mention at all in last years review. It comes across that you only feel comfortable talking about the negatives once its all in the past and the mfg’s cant get mad at you. It makes me wonder whats bad about this bike that isnt being said… guess Ill just have to wait till next year to find out lol.
The real thing is when you have a new bike, they compare it to the old one, so the comments are usually positive. They can’t know yet the issues like clutch, timing chaine, spokes etc untill some month of testing. They have no choice of talking of every new product on the market because you don’t want to be the last one to review an old bike, when the factory edition bikes are coming out for exemple.
I guess it's better than the last guy that pulled the shootout down and changed the results all the while making no sense/correlational to an unchanged bike from the previous year.
Kinda defeats the purpose. Personally like the induction noise mine has. I refer to it as sowing air. When it's up in the revs and your bang'n gears, it's very satisfying. It may not make any more power, but it sounds bitch'n.
I thought someone else was riding in the clip. Since I moved to TX, I changed my diet to mostly meat and vegetables and easily dropped like 15lb(never have been overweight though) while still eating full. Enjoying your superb analysis.
That's why Honda won the SX and MX championship last year right ? Eli is going to obliterate the entire field on this bike . It's vastly superior in every way to the old bike and he dominated most of the year on a bike that was heavy and not near as nimble .
@@herbcanter2114 Jett hunter dominating. Chase sexton fastest every weekend on track, what does that tell you? Honda makes the fastest bikes. Chase crashes front pushing at the end but hes faster then everyone
@@mattrhoton1235 I think he will be unstoppable on this new bike , he's going to destroy the entire field . As good as he was in 2022, that 2022 YZ450's weight and lack of nimbleness held him back .
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Funny everyone complaining about the front fender and plate when its possibly the only dirt bike front end I've ever liked and didn't think grossly threw off the visual balance of the bike; there's a bike that finally looks balanced front-to-back.
I've always thought front fenders overlong, and they could annoyingly flop around (especially when caked with dirt) and I just didnt really see the point (or now, the appeal) of them being so long when they're functionally no better (if not worse) and they look worse.
honestly looks like a duck bill from front on
@@tcmx712 better than the banana-nose of every other bike.
And also, you're blind.
Absolutely love my 2022 YZ450F but this new bike is going to be a real force, especially for Supercross. And of course, Yamaha power and reliability. If Eli gets excited when asked about the bike, that’s a good sign. 😊
I'm actually thinking about grabbing a leftover '22. I'm a bigger guy and had no issues with the "old" model...
@Tats Boris Same. I am 6’3” and 225 and the Yamaha fits me. Curious to throw a leg over this new one and see how it feels.
It’s growing on me with the exception of that YZ85 front number plate and fender.
I had an 03 TTR-125L. Looks like the same front plate haha
So it’s not just me 😂
I like dirtbikes.
Don't we all ?
Me too. 🤘
I like turtles
@@ssmokinu I like turtles too but only when I’m dressed as a zombie.
Me too
The amount of Yamahas I see at the track is insane, about 50% + of all bikes being rode are Yamahas nowadays
Brazil is like this too, Yamaha predominating
ngl this dude knows how to review a dirt bike. I'd buy one now if it didn't cost 53 months of salary here in Brazil.
Yep, these bikes are so expensive, most of us will never have to worry about getting one.
Appreciate the kind words! And yes, it would be so nice if these bikes were more affordable.
@@sludge86 I paid 15,000 usd for my 2022.5 250 sxf factory edition. They definitely like to bend customers over! I didn't even get a kiss. 🤣
@@vitalmx #2strokes
Glad they changed the shrouds to the air box, I did not like it.
Looks way better now
Can’t wait til they update the 450fx with some of these changes, then I will be purchasing!!
Thank you Ktm for forcing other companies to step up their game!
Excellent review! This is the best review to date on this new Yamaha bike. Thanks for putting up the map screen @ 12:30. You always do a great job on these tests.
All manufacturers should offer adjustable foot pegs like Kawi. I don't understand why they don't.
Probably because that change your overall position, so the balance of the bike.
@@mxriderdakar You can setup a lot of things on a dirtbike that changes the balance. Front forks height, steering clamp front/back, rear wheel front/back. So why not the pegs?
Michael, outstanding review! Thank you so much for your hard work.
good review, can't wait till you get some time on it in different track conditions to give more feedback, its an improvement over last year's bike even if its only the weight and being slimmer at the shrouds
really the only thing it needs
My only real 2 complaint on all these bikes are they are becoming expensive and that they should do like stark future, selling them with the good rider spring rate.
Bike of the decade
The front fender looks like the fender of a 2020 Crf150L
So what you're saying is that now I have to buy a 2023? I am just now getting use to my 2018! Oh well hopefully I will get a good trade-in for my 2018, its only got 30 hrs on it. It still has that new car smell.🤣
Bike looks sexy reminds me of the KTM or Husky. Sure Yamaha will still be in the front of the pack 🔥🔥🎯
Thank god they have stayed with the KYB SSS fork.
If they took the 2009 YZF and gave it the same treatment Kawasaki gave their KX450 you'd have a clear market leader. Other brands are getting huge power with standard cylinder layout, so I don't get why they persist with the one thing that deters and annoys people the most.
@C.Nash Your mum is the one breeding retards dude, not me.
@@Superdisco199 The reverse cylinder is a HUGE advantage .
down and back footpegs and a new plastic adjustment 🤙🏻
Which one is better… this yz450f or the Kawasaki 450sr??
Waiting for 2024 250f
Eli made that bike thinner. Cuz Eli said last january the diff of his KX and Yz is the thickness of the frame
Just purchased 23 ME edition of 450f and when I first cranked it the header pipe got extremely hot changing color to almost glowing red very quick. I rode it for about 5 minutes just barely 1/8 throttle and let it cool. Second time same thing the first section got extremely hot again. Within about a minute or two, Should I be Concerned or is this common with a brand new racer? Any thoughts
Michael Lindsay has the most relatable reviews.
So webben know if the new engine has a new crank bearing? Roller or glide?
Which is faster the 23 ktm 450 or 23 yam 450 ? Which is more powerful?
Would you consider the power delivery of this new motor to be similar to the KTM 450? Going away from the previous gen Yamaha feel?
No, much more responsive than the KTM. Much stronger low-end character.
I need to buy one that’s all I can say
I love everything I'm seeing except the front fender and front number plate. Do they have the same bolt pattern/location as the 2021? If I can put my '21 front plastics on one of these like I did with my early 2010's Honda's I'm sold
2016 had the coolest looking front fender and you could put the number plate and front fender on the newer ones from what I seen someone do..
If it doesn’t have the same holes just drill the holes out on the fender and find some way to make the old plate fit😂
You won’t be able to use older number plates on this bike. The front brake cable is supported by the number plate. The front brake cable is now routed behind the plate for a cleaner look. There is no threaded hole on the lower triple clamp for the old style cable guide to bolt on.
@@sand-motox32 that’s easy to make work. Just have to have a little ingenuity.
Are the ergonomically similar on the 2023 Yamaha YZ 250 FX?
No, all the changes we mentioned are only for the YZ450F this year. The YZ450FX and YZ250F will get them in 2024. YZ250FX might be 2024 or 2025.
@@vitalmx dang, should I just wait and buy then??? Wanting to buy a 250fx.
I have been torn between the 250fx and the crf250rx…..
Maybe I should just go with the rx, thoughts?
I think this will be by the the best bike / best selling 450 this year
Sounds like a real good improvement.
I recall couple years ago when they updated the front axle it made the steering character more neutral, rather than the rear steer that it had been.
With the agility character is it getting even more feeling on the front end?
Also great review, I should of lead with that.
Gah I'm 5'4. I have a 22 yzfx that's amazing. Not excited to hear they enlarged the rider triangle. Never selling my 22 then
They probably saved a few pounds by cutting the front fender off. It looks wayyy ugly but if it saves weight…
They literally did what Eli did to his bike during the 2022 season hahaha
Can i use my get rx1 pro off an 2020 yamaha?
Can i usw my mxc front brake caliper?
Thanks!
No on the GET and yes on the front caliper.
The back hole always feels best !!!
How much hp does it make?
We'll have it on the dyno soon!
Great review! I'll stick with Honda
bring back 4 gear gearbox!
exactly no one ever will use 5th (even 4th is a stretch) on an mx track and for the guys who ride cross country and mx get the yz450fx!!!
250 next year ?
Most likely.
Dude, 5mm is nothing. It's 1/5th of an inch. Do you honestly think ANYONE other than a top pro could tell the difference? That's the difference of a summer sock vs a winter sock. Come on, how much did Yamaha pay you
It does seem strange to put so much focus on what amounts to 3/16".
It's 5mm down, 5mm back, 10mm higher seat, now we are at nearly an inch. An inch in rider triangle is pretty massive.
I always say that if you want to hear an honest review about a bike in a shootout, wait a year until next years bike comes out. Once next years bike comes you guys actually open up about what was bad about the previous bike and mention all of the bad things about it. All of the negative things youre saying here about last years bike you didnt mention at all in last years review. It comes across that you only feel comfortable talking about the negatives once its all in the past and the mfg’s cant get mad at you. It makes me wonder whats bad about this bike that isnt being said… guess Ill just have to wait till next year to find out lol.
The real thing is when you have a new bike, they compare it to the old one, so the comments are usually positive. They can’t know yet the issues like clutch, timing chaine, spokes etc untill some month of testing.
They have no choice of talking of every new product on the market because you don’t want to be the last one to review an old bike, when the factory edition bikes are coming out for exemple.
I guess it's better than the last guy that pulled the shootout down and changed the results all the while making no sense/correlational to an unchanged bike from the previous year.
Same bike. next
wtf is the point of having the cylinder rotated if the air intake is coming from the rear of the bike?? lol
Kinda defeats the purpose. Personally like the induction noise mine has. I refer to it as sowing air. When it's up in the revs and your bang'n gears, it's very satisfying. It may not make any more power, but it sounds bitch'n.
I LIKE CAKE
oh god that front number plate/fender combo looks horrible 🤢
Michael packing on the lb's
Trying to go the other way, I cut almost 20lbs already...got another 35 to go at least.
I thought someone else was riding in the clip. Since I moved to TX, I changed my diet to mostly meat and vegetables and easily dropped like 15lb(never have been overweight though) while still eating full. Enjoying your superb analysis.
Todd I’m sure you’re perfect with no flaws to point out.
Hondas are best
That's why Honda won the SX and MX championship last year right ? Eli is going to obliterate the entire field on this bike . It's vastly superior in every way to the old bike and he dominated most of the year on a bike that was heavy and not near as nimble .
@@herbcanter2114 Jett hunter dominating. Chase sexton fastest every weekend on track, what does that tell you? Honda makes the fastest bikes. Chase crashes front pushing at the end but hes faster then everyone
@@herbcanter2114i bought a Yamaha lol i do love honda too tho
Bahaha they draw air from the rear of the bike now? Makes sense
wdym
Rear and bottom of the airbox.
Lots of hype...
No way in hell youre 5.9 !!! No F!!!!!ING WAY
1/4 of an inch under 5'9...I have short legs for my height though. Long torso, short legs.
Um HH cubículos
Haha it's still heavy fuck all weight cut
Lightest Japanese bike and only around two pounds off the KTM...
ET3 will repeat in 24..Indoor and outdoor..
If he races outdoors...
@@vitalmx when he smokes everyone indoors I'm sure he'll defend his #1 plate outdoors.
@@mattrhoton1235 I think he will be unstoppable on this new bike , he's going to destroy the entire field . As good as he was in 2022, that 2022 YZ450's weight and lack of nimbleness held him back .
Yamies being too bulky is what put me off in the past.