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I like the design. I would use some custom brackets to space them further apart from one another. It’s a waste of resources to have a HOT centre and have a cool side
True that. For the price they should at least include adjustable connectors. Like the other light Shane reviewed where the outer bars can be extended and angled. Although that light seemed pretty dodgy with its diode spacing and covering
Peterxyz, What you said is somewhat true. I grow in the SOG. My plants are a little less then 2 inchs apart. If I don't have diodes over every plant, growth suffers dramatically. Even if a plant is as little as a quarter inch away from the diodes. It will only grow half as big as the plants under the diodes. So if I used a bar light. Where the bars are 6 inchs apart. I would end up with like 10 plants that can't grow properly. So tell me what is more of a waste of resources. Having light that projects it's light that doesn't have enough par in it to grow anything properly. Or a little, so called, hot spot that will make your plants grow like a weed, which they are.
Super happy with my array so far, just wish we had control over the UV LED's, they are always on in flower mode when I only want them on for the last month of flower....
Very cool light! Kind of an odd size though. Not really enough for a 4x4 and overkill for a 3x3. That said I bet it works great in the 3x3 with good spread and the fans as a bonus! I bet a 3 panel one would be great in a 2x4 if that is an option.
@@gregkramer5588 no. Imagine 301b's cost that much for that kind of low perfomance. You can buy 600w Chilled fixtures right now (they're having sort of Black Friday) and it would still be way cheaper and better. idk You can pretty much buy any good light. Imagine uv diode stop working, 1 panel is way too much to replace. Even to compare with like 90$ chilled led bar. I'm just a chilled x3 user, that's why I compare things like that. Btw I had 1 diode run out, I contacted them and they sent me 2 bars without questions. I bet every company does that, but that's my story.
Without looking at the specs. I like it. Grow lights have really really really come a long way. Remember those cheap burple Amazon ebay wish lights. You'll pop your circuit b4 you pop a bud.
I would love to see the numbers on just one in a 2x2 tent and 2 in a 2x3 just to see how they do. It was obviously designed to be used that small and I really like that about this system. One in a 2x2 or 2 in a 2x4 or 4 in a 4x4. Really convenient for growers to start small and grow with their plants and desires and knowledge. Nice to not spend $2500 and find out it’s just too time consuming or not a hobby that you really want to invest much in or many other scenarios.
You always give us a fair and honest review; you're the best. I've been watching frosty jack growing with your lights, his reviews well the proof is in the pudding, outstanding grows. Soon I will purchase your uv light and then the Araya 8, I'm using 2 viparspectra p4000 in a 7ft x 6ft x 8ft room growing in a 5x5 area. I thought my grow area would be 6x5 I think your lights have a even spread no hot spots, anyway someday, thanks for knowledge
I´ve remembered something and am curious about your thoughts. Do you know what happened to plasma grow lights? Their PAR output was insane, sensors kept erroring underneath one of those lamps because they were most likely far above 2000mol and a 1000W lamp was good for 2x2m with +1000PPFD (supposly). I know the spectrum sucked for cannabis/ chillis and so on, they´re still available but look exactly like when they came out and if nothing was ever improved. I´m asking because I´m curious about the tech behind and why it seem to had failed even there´re a lot of other usecases the plasma spectrum would be good for. And they´re still grow lamps.
Is the air coming from the light hotter than ambient? Also since hot air can contain more water is it dryer under the light? would be nice to know if the air coming from the light is hotter than ambient
Not a fan of the footprint if spread out with longer extenders it would be better. I do like they give you a controller, I mean other companies have a the same type port also, but most of them do not give or even make a light controller. You know what I want to do each and every day, plug a controller, that may or may not be compatible, into a driver I would rather not have fail.
Maybe you could do 2 par tests one were numbers were under 1000 for those of us who dont use co2 .Appreciate your efforts but these charts over 1000 dont help alot of us
is a controller like this with built in timer, something you might offer in the future? It does look cool, you've asked before and I think if you could have the fans exhaust upwards or have the reversible makes more sense then having them trying to fight your extraction fan, the goal i think is to have a smooth flow of air best you can manage. Thanks for the video
The fan blows down towards the canopy, why? Heat rises, air exhausts at the top of every tent. Air intakes are always at the bottom. Why wouldn't the fan blow upwards? Why would you want the hot air blowing into the canopy opposite the direction of circulation?
“Apparently” the design won a Red Dot award for balanced temperature and humidity. They must’ve tested with extra fans circulating from underneath. Cos i don’t see how this design alone can balance heat if it’s just gonna keep blowing it back down every time it rises.
They need to bag the gimmicky fan design. Even if it worked well, who wants the center of a light fixture to have no lights? On top of that, the average led fixture lasts around 50,000 hours. A shitty plastic fan in a humid environment?
@@ev25zv having that area for the fan actually makes for a better spread; reducing the hot spot. It’s kinda like how light bars have gaps between them.
@@dzznuttz4843 Not like a bar light at all. Each row of lights are are closer together than their quantum board without a gap in the middle. Perhaps you could make that argument if the board was several inches longer.
I agree. I'm going to try 6 X 100 w Spider farmer panels in a 120 tent. I have tried 2x mars hydro sp3000 and it's very good but I think 6 single quantum panels would be perfect. My HLG 600 I find the boards are placed too close together so I add 2 spider farmer panels to the tent , push it to one side and turn it down a touch. My MIGRO Array 8 is also very efficient but I feel it could use a few more watts for a 120 tent. I hang a Mars hydro sp150 in-between them and it seems to do the trick for me. I need 3 set ups so I constantly play around.😁
@@twentytwo138 My mate just got the 300w version second hand. I'm going to see how it goes for him in his 90 X 90. I'm certainly being pushed in that direction. Thanks.
@@jimbob2101 There is one difference to keep in mind though, the 300w has IR diodes, but the bigger fixtures don't have IR diodes. And also with Lumatek there is Standard and Pro version, the Pro has higher efficiency. But Photontek only has one version. My friend grows with a Lumatek 600w 2.9 efficiency, he got over 2g per watt, aroung 1.5kg of dry product.
It would be great if the panel was clear coated with that rubber water proof stuff. Also if the controller was IP67 IP68. I'm sure the lights are prob IP 65 even if not stated but I could be wrong. IP65 I think it's just dusty resistant
Seems Pedantic to not space the lights out. There is a lot of value in its light distribution potential, making it a far more equitable solution for lots of people than the tests show.
Saying that you don't have time to move around the lights to find the best setup is only partially valid as a simply not connecting the lights together and spacing them out equally would've done the job In minutes
From my experience running this fan I haven't seen any issue with heat being passed into the canopy. From what I can tell, the heat is pretty well dissipated away from the system. And of course humidity becomes a lot less of a problem as air is recycled within the tent, meaning air passes out the sides of the ventilation, regardless of the fan being in the center of the fan. It seems like a lot of comments about this are from people who don't actually use the fan.
You don’t want air recycled! You want fresh air exchange from bottom to top… and of course it dissipates heat away from the fan - *BUT* that heat is directed toward the canopy. So unless you know what adequate leaf surface temps are, then you’re unnecessarily forcing extra heat to leaf surface so the plant has to work harder. Lol dissipating “away” from the system isn’t the issue Hammy, and you don’t want recycled air circulating the tent!
@Topsrite Hahahaa you’re circulating air the *wrong* way. Besides, you can just buy a $5 fan from Walmart that’ll last just as long “AND” circulate air as it should. I mean if you’ve got the money to waste, go ahead and buy this gimmick. But there’s options for the same price that blow this thing away!!
Great video!! Really enjoy your in depth reviews. I am actually in the middle of building my 3x3 tent currently and have all AC Infinity but am curious about this controller vs my AC Infinity. Do you believe this hub is better then what AC Infinity offers? Please any input would be fantastic as im on the fence about using there hub with my AC infinity equipment. Also vivosuns Lights I believe are far from worth it with low par readings so I'm leaning towards getting a photontek sq300 pro but not sure if how there quality is and if will do a good job in my 3x3? Any advise would be very helpful
@@ehhcanada so in other words you believe the ac infinity wifi controller would be a better choice? I have all ac infinity exept my controller is bluetooth, which is bullshit to be honest, since they have the wifi model and given I $$ there best 6" fan/controller they ship it with the bluetooth one 😡. Idk I just need wifi capabilities and torn between this vivosun controller
@@quadlawnmowerman ok I just wish this vivosun controller had the 4 inputs ac infinity has vs the 2. Also it's the app that really makes a difference as well. So torn between the both as I only have the bluetooth one and need wifi capabilities.
@@MyJman37 i have not tried the controller only the fans. However ac infinity contracts one manufacturer per item where vivosun has had many different companies make there controllers. The first companies they hired where an almost exact rip off of ac infinities first rebranded controllers.
The spacers between the lamps are way too short, the lamps all have to be further away from eachother like this they´re kind of wasting effifency. If they were more spaced out there wouldn´t be +1100mol in the center while the entire side is around 400. With more space for the lamps they should be able to get the center more around 1000 and the sides to around 700.
Ooof. $830 USD for a 400w light. Granted it has all the bells and whistles accessorised. But sheesh, almost $1,240 (exchange rate*) for a 400w (maybe 420w) light. Man i don’t really think those extra diodes or even those PC fans justify that price.
I agree, and that's without even knowing how replaceable those fans are. because you can bet your ass that those fans will start collecting dust and will start wearing out long before those diodes.
@Kristof Somers Funnily enough they say the fans last 70,000 hours. Meanwhile the light (diodes) are only meant to work for 50,000. I can see the fans working “almost” indefinitely since PC fans can take some beating. But they’re blowing heat down when heat rises. Weird concept to win design award for. Probably why they think it’s worth almost 1k
I purchased one of their lights and a few fans, but this company scares me. Gave the light away (with words of caution) and stored the fans in case of an emergency; meaning if any of my AC Infinity fans die unexpectedly. The craftsmanship is questionable, and the temp from the light was high as jet smoke; not a good combination. Perfectly happy with my MIGRO Array's and AC Infinity fans because quality matters. Appreciated!
The metal duct fans are trash but the plastic duct fans are just as good as ac infinity other then the controllers. Vivosun lights have always been on the lowest end of chinese light brands. Vivosun just rebrands all items other then the ratchet straps and adds a few bucks to the price tag.
I’m more than happy with the quality of the this system. The light is top notch with great selection of led diodes and the fan is powerful yet lightweight and decently quiet. I ended up shelving my AC fans bc Vivosun had better functionality and options. I’d check it out again, dust it off and try out the fans with the GrowHub
Definitely not my experience. I've used vs equipment for quite a while and haven't had any of the problems that people on reddit always talk about. Although I do think there has been some major issues in the past I don't see it in how the company has changed.
Is there a video on here which shows the par of 2 Units side by side at different distances apart, or a reference anyone has to calculate it? I would find it super interesting to see what the PAR output is with this same unit, but with the gaps between the 4 smaller units opened by a few inches, and then a few more until there a very even spread with less hot spot. And then what effect on that even spread would mylar do to the reading, is it not possible to make nearly every part of the room roughly 500par +/-10% at a certain height?
More even light distribution should definitely be possible and would seriously elevate the value of this light fixture. Sanlight for example have tested this in house and all of their Multi-Board configs come with instructions to space and angle the lights for the best output hence best efficacy. See if I have the link. I've modified nearly every light I owned to improve it and don't understand how reviewers won't spend 5 minutes just changing things around. Would make the world of a difference
No point to use these fans. Use regular size fans to get good air flow instead of sharing power/adding another power supply for the fans as a result of a higher price because of a redesign or some mounting brackets. You can just make it urself in a week by adding fans and making some platform for it. But I don't understand the downward flow, why would you need that? The heat rises but it get's blown into the canopy. Yeah, maybe you would love heat to stay there if you live in a cold place somewhere, but it's just pointless, cmon.
@@sergefranko1535 I agree it's kinda pointless to blow the air downwards. I mean, no harm in extra ventilation that's for sure, but i suppose it would make more sense to push the air upwards. I use small USB fans in my grow. 7€ for each fan, with some USB extension cords and a USB hub, plugged into an extension cord with USB plugs. Works perfectly for me, and they only pull around 5w i think.
Any light with a fan after using it for one year I would guess you have a 50% chance the fan will be making a buzzing sound, only sometimes & if you flick it hard with your finger you can make the noise stop for about 30 minutes before it starts buzzing again. I’m pretty sure 50% chance. 2 years old it goes to 60% chance!
Not impressed Cost too much for a 400 Watt light. Par readings suck. Unless you're using a 2×2 . THEY CAN'T BUILD A 500 WATT LIGHT For $500 bucks . THAT PUTS DOWN 1000 PAR FROM CORNER TO CORNER. Your old light sensor was 1 inch tall , I see the sensor now is almost 4 inches tall .
Not impressed...in fact I'd say it's a dud at the price and being the wrong size and under powered. I rate vivosun below, Mars and spider. So why would anyone buy their brand at Maxibright and lumatek prices for a very inferior light Why would you want to have a controller system from a company that only plays catch up, when you can have AC inf who are the innovators, with new extensions coming out all the time. So It's a very big thumbs down from me.
@@bigskyartsandgames Naah your ok....AC are doing humidifiers and and have compatibility with other brands now via the UIS sockets. So I can do everything and more with my 69 controller. Plus the app is so much better than the Niwa one.
Vivosun lights cant really be trusted as they dont make any of the units they just rebrand. They have released many models of lights and its always a gamble what u will get because they source the units from multiple manufacturer. You could order 4 of the same model and get 4 units with different hardware but same style of build lol
Are u kidding? Vivosun is one of the only guys who make their own lights and design them. U’d be surprised what other brand’s have asked for Vivosuns help in design and manufacturing.
@@dzznuttz4843 not a chance.vivosun/vivohome has not made any of the products they sell. I was sponsored for years i tested almost all products they sold pre covid.
for anyone who likes this type of setup, the 4x150w groplannner 600w kit (you can get dimmer or wifi control) for $223 ($423 -$200 coupon) at amazon is a steal in comparison - Shane reviewed the single here - th-cam.com/video/sxJqqRzabRI/w-d-xo.html
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Hi Shane if you were to add 8 more lights to this Would you need co2 and how many to fill a 5x5? Thank you!
I like the design. I would use some custom brackets to space them further apart from one another. It’s a waste of resources to have a HOT centre and have a cool side
Psst...farther. It relates to distance. Further is what one does with an agenda etc.
True that. For the price they should at least include adjustable connectors. Like the other light Shane reviewed where the outer bars can be extended and angled. Although that light seemed pretty dodgy with its diode spacing and covering
Peterxyz,
What you said is somewhat true.
I grow in the SOG. My plants are a little less then 2 inchs apart.
If I don't have diodes over every plant, growth suffers dramatically.
Even if a plant is as little as a quarter inch away from the diodes. It will only grow half as big as the plants under the diodes.
So if I used a bar light.
Where the bars are 6 inchs apart. I would end up with like 10 plants that can't grow properly.
So tell me what is more of a waste of resources.
Having light that projects it's light that doesn't have enough par in it to grow anything properly. Or a little, so called, hot spot that will make your plants grow like a weed, which they are.
@@413TomaccoRoad pass dat💨 I mean pass
jop,design its perfect👌🏻
I like the idea, larger spacers would be nice, or even options. Overall happy to see some kind of innovation in the current market.
Can always do it with out the spacers , that way the lights are where you need them.
@@bigskyartsandgames true. I was just thinking it'd nice to have an option instead of trying to hang separate lights for an even distribution.
@@ryanwilliams5705 I will bring it up to our development team, Thank you for the good idea.
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I bet longer H brackets would allow more spread to the outer edges.
Super happy with my array so far, just wish we had control over the UV LED's, they are always on in flower mode when I only want them on for the last month of flower....
Very cool light! Kind of an odd size though. Not really enough for a 4x4 and overkill for a 3x3. That said I bet it works great in the 3x3 with good spread and the fans as a bonus! I bet a 3 panel one would be great in a 2x4 if that is an option.
Eek they’re around $250 for one 100w. Then you have the option of buying more. The 4 style is $830. Not worth it for 400w imo
@@freedom_born It is one hell of a premium is it not!
@Greg Kramer
As Jerry Maguire would say:
“Show me the money!!!”
@@gregkramer5588 no. Imagine 301b's cost that much for that kind of low perfomance. You can buy 600w Chilled fixtures right now (they're having sort of Black Friday) and it would still be way cheaper and better. idk
You can pretty much buy any good light. Imagine uv diode stop working, 1 panel is way too much to replace. Even to compare with like 90$ chilled led bar.
I'm just a chilled x3 user, that's why I compare things like that. Btw I had 1 diode run out, I contacted them and they sent me 2 bars without questions. I bet every company does that, but that's my story.
@@sergefranko1535 BTW I neve meant to imply they are a good value. For less than this you can get a Medic Grow Smart 8.
Without looking at the specs. I like it. Grow lights have really really really come a long way. Remember those cheap burple Amazon ebay wish lights. You'll pop your circuit b4 you pop a bud.
I would love to see the numbers on just one in a 2x2 tent and 2 in a 2x3 just to see how they do. It was obviously designed to be used that small and I really like that about this system. One in a 2x2 or 2 in a 2x4 or 4 in a 4x4. Really convenient for growers to start small and grow with their plants and desires and knowledge. Nice to not spend $2500 and find out it’s just too time consuming or not a hobby that you really want to invest much in or many other scenarios.
This controller is fantastic. I use it with mars hydro FC1000w x 4. It does it all. Even the mars hydro fan works.GREAT PRODUCT.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for the good review.
You always give us a fair and honest review; you're the best. I've been watching frosty jack growing with your lights, his reviews well the proof is in the pudding, outstanding grows. Soon I will purchase your uv light and then the Araya 8, I'm using 2 viparspectra p4000 in a 7ft x 6ft x 8ft room growing in a 5x5 area. I thought my grow area would be 6x5 I think your lights have a even spread no hot spots, anyway someday, thanks for knowledge
I´ve remembered something and am curious about your thoughts. Do you know what happened to plasma grow lights? Their PAR output was insane, sensors kept erroring underneath one of those lamps because they were most likely far above 2000mol and a 1000W lamp was good for 2x2m with +1000PPFD (supposly). I know the spectrum sucked for cannabis/ chillis and so on, they´re still available but look exactly like when they came out and if nothing was ever improved. I´m asking because I´m curious about the tech behind and why it seem to had failed even there´re a lot of other usecases the plasma spectrum would be good for. And they´re still grow lamps.
I reckon they should make a light with power sockets on them plug fans into
. What yall reckon
Is the air coming from the light hotter than ambient? Also since hot air can contain more water is it dryer under the light? would be nice to know if the air coming from the light is hotter than ambient
Not a fan of the footprint if spread out with longer extenders it would be better. I do like they give you a controller, I mean other companies have a the same type port also, but most of them do not give or even make a light controller. You know what I want to do each and every day, plug a controller, that may or may not be compatible, into a driver I would rather not have fail.
I'm skeptical of the fan. It's a cool idea but the durability is a big concern. I've read a few people having those fans die on them.
Any chance of you reviewing the invisible sun x bar Evo?
Maybe you could do 2 par tests one were numbers were under 1000 for those of us who dont use co2 .Appreciate your efforts but these charts over 1000 dont help alot of us
is a controller like this with built in timer, something you might offer in the future? It does look cool, you've asked before and I think if you could have the fans exhaust upwards or have the reversible makes more sense then having them trying to fight your extraction fan, the goal i think is to have a smooth flow of air best you can manage. Thanks for the video
Is there really no accurate way to test soil for NPK amounts other than Rapitest products or a professional lab?
The fan blows down towards the canopy, why? Heat rises, air exhausts at the top of every tent. Air intakes are always at the bottom. Why wouldn't the fan blow upwards? Why would you want the hot air blowing into the canopy opposite the direction of circulation?
“Apparently” the design won a Red Dot award for balanced temperature and humidity. They must’ve tested with extra fans circulating from underneath. Cos i don’t see how this design alone can balance heat if it’s just gonna keep blowing it back down every time it rises.
They need to bag the gimmicky fan design. Even if it worked well, who wants the center of a light fixture to have no lights? On top of that, the average led fixture lasts around 50,000 hours. A shitty plastic fan in a humid environment?
@@ev25zv having that area for the fan actually makes for a better spread; reducing the hot spot. It’s kinda like how light bars have gaps between them.
@@bigskyartsandgames How many hours is the fan rated for 24/7 use under very humid conditions? Link?
@@dzznuttz4843 Not like a bar light at all. Each row of lights are are closer together than their quantum board without a gap in the middle. Perhaps you could make that argument if the board was several inches longer.
why uva tho?
I agree. I'm going to try 6 X 100 w Spider farmer panels in a 120 tent. I have tried 2x mars hydro sp3000 and it's very good but I think 6 single quantum panels would be perfect. My HLG 600 I find the boards are placed too close together so I add 2 spider farmer panels to the tent , push it to one side and turn it down a touch. My MIGRO Array 8 is also very efficient but I feel it could use a few more watts for a 120 tent. I hang a Mars hydro sp150 in-between them and it seems to do the trick for me. I need 3 set ups so I constantly play around.😁
Check out Lumatek or Photontek 600w, would be perfect for your space, much better quality than Mars or Spider.
@@twentytwo138 My mate just got the 300w version second hand. I'm going to see how it goes for him in his 90 X 90. I'm certainly being pushed in that direction. Thanks.
@@jimbob2101 There is one difference to keep in mind though, the 300w has IR diodes, but the bigger fixtures don't have IR diodes. And also with Lumatek there is Standard and Pro version, the Pro has higher efficiency. But Photontek only has one version.
My friend grows with a Lumatek 600w 2.9 efficiency, he got over 2g per watt, aroung 1.5kg of dry product.
It would be great if the panel was clear coated with that rubber water proof stuff. Also if the controller was IP67 IP68. I'm sure the lights are prob IP 65 even if not stated but I could be wrong. IP65 I think it's just dusty resistant
looks nice, looks like a UFO.😁
That's those drones rippers be flying around at the end of the season .
It’s outta this world! Lol.
Are there sellers in the EU?
Grow lights for gamers 😎
I'm looking for something to replace my 2 hps 600 1 m x 2 m long weird shape I know
Seems Pedantic to not space the lights out. There is a lot of value in its light distribution potential, making it a far more equitable solution for lots of people than the tests show.
Saying that you don't have time to move around the lights to find the best setup is only partially valid as a simply not connecting the lights together and spacing them out equally would've done the job In minutes
From my experience running this fan I haven't seen any issue with heat being passed into the canopy. From what I can tell, the heat is pretty well dissipated away from the system. And of course humidity becomes a lot less of a problem as air is recycled within the tent, meaning air passes out the sides of the ventilation, regardless of the fan being in the center of the fan. It seems like a lot of comments about this are from people who don't actually use the fan.
You don’t want air recycled! You want fresh air exchange from bottom to top… and of course it dissipates heat away from the fan - *BUT* that heat is directed toward the canopy. So unless you know what adequate leaf surface temps are, then you’re unnecessarily forcing extra heat to leaf surface so the plant has to work harder. Lol dissipating “away” from the system isn’t the issue Hammy, and you don’t want recycled air circulating the tent!
Yes, excellent analogy
@@freedom_born but regardless you are still offering air movement and while not fresh it’s still by far better than nothing
@Topsrite
Hahahaa you’re circulating air the *wrong* way. Besides, you can just buy a $5 fan from Walmart that’ll last just as long “AND” circulate air as it should.
I mean if you’ve got the money to waste, go ahead and buy this gimmick. But there’s options for the same price that blow this thing away!!
Great video!! Really enjoy your in depth reviews. I am actually in the middle of building my 3x3 tent currently and have all AC Infinity but am curious about this controller vs my AC Infinity. Do you believe this hub is better then what AC Infinity offers? Please any input would be fantastic as im on the fence about using there hub with my AC infinity equipment. Also vivosuns Lights I believe are far from worth it with low par readings so I'm leaning towards getting a photontek sq300 pro but not sure if how there quality is and if will do a good job in my 3x3? Any advise would be very helpful
Much better than AC infinity. I have now changed everything over to Vivosun except the exhaust fan, AC infinity still beating them there....
@@quadlawnmowerman the fans are the only thing vivosun sells that is fair quallity the rest is short lived products lol
@@ehhcanada so in other words you believe the ac infinity wifi controller would be a better choice? I have all ac infinity exept my controller is bluetooth, which is bullshit to be honest, since they have the wifi model and given I $$ there best 6" fan/controller they ship it with the bluetooth one 😡. Idk I just need wifi capabilities and torn between this vivosun controller
@@quadlawnmowerman ok I just wish this vivosun controller had the 4 inputs ac infinity has vs the 2. Also it's the app that really makes a difference as well. So torn between the both as I only have the bluetooth one and need wifi capabilities.
@@MyJman37 i have not tried the controller only the fans.
However ac infinity contracts one manufacturer per item where vivosun has had many different companies make there controllers.
The first companies they hired where an almost exact rip off of ac infinities first rebranded controllers.
The spacers between the lamps are way too short, the lamps all have to be further away from eachother like this they´re kind of wasting effifency. If they were more spaced out there wouldn´t be +1100mol in the center while the entire side is around 400. With more space for the lamps they should be able to get the center more around 1000 and the sides to around 700.
Ooof. $830 USD for a 400w light. Granted it has all the bells and whistles accessorised. But sheesh, almost $1,240 (exchange rate*) for a 400w (maybe 420w) light.
Man i don’t really think those extra diodes or even those PC fans justify that price.
I agree, and that's without even knowing how replaceable those fans are. because you can bet your ass that those fans will start collecting dust and will start wearing out long before those diodes.
@Kristof Somers
Funnily enough they say the fans last 70,000 hours. Meanwhile the light (diodes) are only meant to work for 50,000. I can see the fans working “almost” indefinitely since PC fans can take some beating. But they’re blowing heat down when heat rises. Weird concept to win design award for. Probably why they think it’s worth almost 1k
Not sure about the low wattage
I purchased one of their lights and a few fans, but this company scares me. Gave the light away (with words of caution) and stored the fans in case of an emergency; meaning if any of my AC Infinity fans die unexpectedly.
The craftsmanship is questionable, and the temp from the light was high as jet smoke; not a good combination.
Perfectly happy with my MIGRO Array's and AC Infinity fans because quality matters.
Appreciated!
The metal duct fans are trash but the plastic duct fans are just as good as ac infinity other then the controllers.
Vivosun lights have always been on the lowest end of chinese light brands.
Vivosun just rebrands all items other then the ratchet straps and adds a few bucks to the price tag.
I’m more than happy with the quality of the this system. The light is top notch with great selection of led diodes and the fan is powerful yet lightweight and decently quiet. I ended up shelving my AC fans bc Vivosun had better functionality and options. I’d check it out again, dust it off and try out the fans with the GrowHub
Definitely not my experience. I've used vs equipment for quite a while and haven't had any of the problems that people on reddit always talk about. Although I do think there has been some major issues in the past I don't see it in how the company has changed.
Seems to be too much for 3x3 but too little for 4x4. Longer brackets might have solved those cold corners 🥶
I thought these 4 was for a 4×4?
@@over20yrsexp Yes but they're not spread enough to cover the corners
Is there a video on here which shows the par of 2 Units side by side at different distances apart, or a reference anyone has to calculate it?
I would find it super interesting to see what the PAR output is with this same unit, but with the gaps between the 4 smaller units opened by a few inches, and then a few more until there a very even spread with less hot spot.
And then what effect on that even spread would mylar do to the reading, is it not possible to make nearly every part of the room roughly 500par +/-10% at a certain height?
More even light distribution should definitely be possible and would seriously elevate the value of this light fixture.
Sanlight for example have tested this in house and all of their Multi-Board configs come with instructions to space and angle the lights for the best output hence best efficacy. See if I have the link.
I've modified nearly every light I owned to improve it and don't understand how reviewers won't spend 5 minutes just changing things around. Would make the world of a difference
Now there's an idea, an ARAY model with fans between the bars for ventilation.
No point to use these fans. Use regular size fans to get good air flow instead of sharing power/adding another power supply for the fans as a result of a higher price because of a redesign or some mounting brackets. You can just make it urself in a week by adding fans and making some platform for it. But I don't understand the downward flow, why would you need that? The heat rises but it get's blown into the canopy. Yeah, maybe you would love heat to stay there if you live in a cold place somewhere, but it's just pointless, cmon.
@@sergefranko1535 I agree it's kinda pointless to blow the air downwards. I mean, no harm in extra ventilation that's for sure, but i suppose it would make more sense to push the air upwards. I use small USB fans in my grow. 7€ for each fan, with some USB extension cords and a USB hub, plugged into an extension cord with USB plugs. Works perfectly for me, and they only pull around 5w i think.
Interesting 3x3 light
It's got red eyes already.
So, ultra premium price for a terrible par map and token UV/730nm diodes that just check a bullet point...am I missing something?
Any light with a fan after using it for one year I would guess you have a 50% chance the fan will be making a buzzing sound, only sometimes & if you flick it hard with your finger you can make the noise stop for about 30 minutes before it starts buzzing again. I’m pretty sure 50% chance. 2 years old it goes to 60% chance!
That beep is a little loud annoyingly but that's me.
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not as bad as first thought then..
Привет бро!!! Ролик топ!!! Интересно и познавательно!!! Всех благ!!!
😂 consumes 420 watts
And some of that is the fans
@@UbiquitousRomp I'm just laughing because it's 420.
Its like they did that as part of the marketing lmao
@@hewasdeadwhenigotthere46 they probably added a 5 watt fan to each light to get there
@@andrewsiasparks lmao I question their ethics
need wifi apps
420 watts consumed heh..
Not impressed
Cost too much for a 400 Watt light.
Par readings suck.
Unless you're using a 2×2 . THEY CAN'T BUILD A 500 WATT LIGHT For $500 bucks . THAT PUTS DOWN 1000 PAR FROM CORNER TO CORNER. Your old light sensor was 1 inch tall , I see the sensor now is almost 4 inches tall .
TOO MUCH BS IN ONE PACKAGE, USE THE CENTER FOR MORE LED'S FOR A 4X4 AREA, WAY TOO MUCH MONEY ALSO. THANKS FOR THE REVIEW !!
at 2.25$ a watt I'll go with a reputable brand
😢terrible light and terrible company
Not impressed...in fact I'd say it's a dud at the price and being the wrong size and under powered. I rate vivosun below, Mars and spider. So why would anyone buy their brand at Maxibright and lumatek prices for a very inferior light
Why would you want to have a controller system from a company that only plays catch up, when you can have AC inf who are the innovators, with new extensions coming out all the time.
So It's a very big thumbs down from me.
My grow hub does way more than AC infinity. You might want to look again. When this came out AC was still a bluetooth setup.
@@bigskyartsandgames Naah your ok....AC are doing humidifiers and and have compatibility with other brands now via the UIS sockets. So I can do everything and more with my 69 controller. Plus the app is so much better than the Niwa one.
Vivosun lights cant really be trusted as they dont make any of the units they just rebrand.
They have released many models of lights and its always a gamble what u will get because they source the units from multiple manufacturer.
You could order 4 of the same model and get 4 units with different hardware but same style of build lol
Are u kidding? Vivosun is one of the only guys who make their own lights and design them. U’d be surprised what other brand’s have asked for Vivosuns help in design and manufacturing.
@@dzznuttz4843 not a chance.vivosun/vivohome has not made any of the products they sell.
I was sponsored for years i tested almost all products they sold pre covid.
@@dzznuttz4843 100% agree with this.
@Eh canada
You can tell these two guys must be reps for the company. 🤣
@@freedom_born never seen someone think vivosun actually designs or manufactures products lmfao
Way too much Money for this Light
for anyone who likes this type of setup, the 4x150w groplannner 600w kit (you can get dimmer or wifi control) for $223 ($423 -$200 coupon) at amazon is a steal in comparison - Shane reviewed the single here - th-cam.com/video/sxJqqRzabRI/w-d-xo.html
Everything I use is @vivosun.official , cannot wait until my lights arrive 🔥 best products and affordable prices for the average consumerrrr
Affordable⁉️
Nice promo work man. Collect your cheque at the reception desk 👍🏽🥴🤣☠️
U can buy a high end 600 watt for the price but u ride those free products buddy