Your exposure on the z9 is 1-2 stops brighter than the R5 - when overexposing, its super hard to get an airy look. Havent got the z9, but in the test from the slanted lens, z9 was letting more light in, than the r5c. You cant expect that the same settings on both cameras equals the same amount of light 🙃 I've experienced this two times before, when using a digital camera to meter for an analog camera, using the completely same settings. Im not sure, if that will solve the grading-issue though. As i said, i dont own the z9! ✌
In the outdoor dynamic range test, you shot at 1/15s with Z9 while you shot at 1/45s with R5. As a result, the original nikon file is much more overexposed than Canon one. Of course the Z9 won't recover the highlights like R5 at such obvious disadvantage.
The shutter speeds couldn’t be the same though considering the lenses t stops and the native iso on the Nikon goes to 64. The 50mm 1.2s let’s in less light than the rf version. I tried my best to eyeball it but the exposures weren’t very far apart. The z9 is excellent in everything except highlight recovery. Next week I’ll use a different file when I compare gfx, z9 and r5 in dynamic range
Just got my Z9. I've been trying to test it and set it up. I'm shooting some portraits with it this week. No camera is perfect, but the Z9 is super capable. It's a leap forward on the Z6 and Z7 for those that have owned/used those bodies. I love shooting sports/ action/wildlife as well. If you only shoot portraits in slower situations, the other Z bodies will serve your needs. One caveat, in that, if you're a photographer that really wants to rely on eye auto focus for portrait work, the Z9 does eye autofocus with much more competency over the past Z bodies base on my usage so far. One man's opinion.
Definitely !! I hope people don’t get the impression that I didn’t like the z9. I think it’s Nikons best modern camera. I just wish it had the same sensor as z7
R5 hands down over the Z9, especially for the price tag on the Z9. Also, R5 on the Electronic shutter setting is completely silent as well. But only at 20 fps.
Ive always noticed that the Nikon files are harder to pull down then pull up. I now always shoot slightly underexposed on my Z9's. Even 2 stops under is easy, but 2 stops over is garbage.
Definitely!! When I was shooting Nikon full time I did the same and was totally happy! In the real world nobody shoots over like that. It’s just to show how different each sensor is. I’m curious to see how my gfx does way over exposed like that.
The AF test should have been redone. Exposures were different and getting motion blur invalidates any test. The way these cameras work, you need to limit any variance from exposure to shutter lag. Next, Sony sensor isn’t the issue specifically as the Z7 and D850 were Sony sensors. But you’re looking at Stacked Sensor performance. Until the A1, They had less DR and worse ISO performance. I’ve always enjoyed your videos but this one was disappointing.
That’s valid. Usually when I do tests I own both cameras. I don’t own the z9 so I wasn’t shooting it. We just set both bodies to same settings. It’s definitely not scientific but what I can say is autofocus wise the z9 is really good. The dynamic range was still an issue but maybe the z8 will be the a7riv sensor who knows. I do appreciate you checking it out though
I was waiting for someone to say this. In addition, the comment that the Z9 shoots silently and doesn't make a sound, but there must be something somewhere to turn on a "beep" really said it all. That is, 9 months after the camera's release, I'm clueless as to the general function. Hard to watch and I agree, this is a video that shouldn't have been made until it was better performed.
i don't know if you can rate the dynamic range test that way because the z9 in 2023 still has problems with Lightroom. In Lightroom there is more noise than in c1 or other converters, which also affects the dynamic range. ok but not with the highlights I think
That’s fair! I did like the z9 , but I do use lightroom so it’s important that it performs well in there. I have several friends who own the z9 and all confirmed the z7 has noticeably better dynamic range. Hopefully the z8 will be better in that respect. I think it’s just that sensor from the a9 series. We need the sensor from the R series
It’s Lightroom it doesn’t handle the z9 files properly but in capture one it’s a night and day difference with the files. There is a lot of videos about it
Thank you for your video, J. Marcus! I am struggling to decide whether to migrate from Fujifilm and Canon to Nikon. We had a Z7, but I was not happy with its auto focus and low light performance. The Canon R3 is a beast, but there are times that I wished I had more resolution. Since you are using all these cameras, what are your thoughts of switching ecosystems?
Possibly if you like the Nikon files try the z8? I’m pretty happy with my r5 and gfx but Nikon with the new glass and af system is on the same playing field now
@@SNAPAVELI - thank you! I know as soon as I sell my R3 and migrate, Canon will announce either the new R5 or R1. In your opinion, is the R5 at three years old able to compete with the Z8?
@@johnpeterka8355 I haven’t tested the z8 yet but I did the z9 and I can say yes my r5 auto focus was just as good. Canon has a huge lenses line up too so I’m happy.
@@johnpeterka8355 I think it was very close! I still think the z7 sensor is best in class for full frame. The z9 sensor is great color wise , it’s just not as good on dynamic range as the z7
Excellent test man. I agree with you on the dynamic range test, especially in the highlights. Photons site rates the R5 as having about 1/2 stop more dynamic range than the Z9. Photons site chart shows the R5 sensor indicates noise reduction. However, you can only reduce noise on information that's actually present in the image. I would think that's why the R5 is doing a little better. I will try your files in different software to see if the results are similar. Keep up the great comparisons!
@@SNAPAVELI Just tested all files in two programs Luminar 4 and Luminar NEO(latest update). My results were very similar to yours. The Z9 overexposed image was completely clipped in the forehead, shoulders, nose, sky areas. The image was brought down over 2 stops and still not acceptable. However, the Z9 underexposed image recovered nicely but still flat compared to the same image on the R5. The R5 handled all images well and showed sharper quality in the eye and cheek areas.
@@SNAPAVELI Took a look at the files. I was able to repeat your exact results in the video with Capture One. However Capture One has a better exposure warning tools than lightroom and you can tell between the 2 overexposed files pretty quickly that the Nikon file is more overexposed than the R5 file. You can see in the data that the R5 file is ISO 100 1/45s f1.2 where as the Nikon file is ISO 100 1/15s f1.2 so not really comparing apples to apples here because the shutter speed is slower on the Nikon file. So I would repeat this test if you still have both cameras and use the same ISO, Shutter speed, and aperture for both cameras. I would assume the actual light transmission of the Canon vs Nikon lens is negligible so I think that would give you much closer results.
@@NickDelDuca thank you for that!! Ok what I’ll do is choose a different file for next weeks gfx , z9 , r5 dynamic range test. It was really hard to get them exact. Reason being , the iso needed to be minimum on each camera so iso 64 vs 100 on r5 meant the z9 needed lower shutter speed…. Then the z50 1.2 lens is a lot longer so with the t stop it didn’t let in as much light at the same settings as my rf 50. We did just have to eyeball it
@@SNAPAVELI In the examples you shared the ISO on both cameras was 100. On the photons to photos website the dynamic range chart for the Z9 shows it actually has way less dynamic range at 100iso vs 64. it's over half a stop .67. But the charts there also show the R5 has a little over half a stop more dynamic range than the Z9 at base ISO.
We are all waiting on what is coming next from Nikon. I have always been a Nikon shooter, bought my Z6's when they came out. Didn't move to the Z6II because I didn't see much difference, but I am waiting for the Z6III. I am not as scientific as any, but I like the Nikon files as well. So while I wait, I invested into Nikon Z Glass. For what I shoot(Weddings and Portraits) the lens are extremely capable for what I do, borderline perfect in my opinion. The 24-70 2.8S, 70-200 2.8S, 50 1.8S, 85 1.8S and soon the 105 2.8S. Your Videos are always honest, and like you say "You don't benefit one way are the other", just your honest opinion. I enjoy your comparison. I am going to buy what I want regardless. Canon maybe better at somethings, Sony maybe better at others, the system you invest in is up to you. Would I change because another Company comes out with a better camera(subjectively), and I have $1000s invested in my current system. Just My Opinion. Please continue with you comparisons.
Thank you for that!! I try to not get too scientific , I just love photography. Nikon files have always been really incredible to me. I have always liked their d850 z7 series files. Didn’t spend much time with the z6 but the z5 files really impressed me! I think sticking with Nikon is the way to go! I’m super curious about the z8. My r5 is serving me very well at the moment
Kind of strange to watch some videos about Z6 and all the problems that camera seem to have, according to some youtubers. I have taken slightly more than 100 000 exposures with my Z6, about 40 000 with my Z7 and I am extremely happpy. The Z6II that I have bought now is faster, but the Z6 is still in my bag together with the Z6II. I will be using the Z6 until it stops. The files are amazing. The Z9 is absolutely amazing, recievced it last week but will not sell my Z6/6II maybe the Z7. For my every day workflow, the 6/6II will be the cameras of choice, Z9 for something else:-)
@@janpetterkristiansen5725 I also enjoyed Nikon , still do. I’ve taken some of my favorites shots with the z7! At the end of the day it’s just not practical to own too many systems
The z9 bad eye af is a thing I get to with my 20mm 1.8s, 50mm 1.2s, 85mm 1.8s and 105mc. I don't know if you got this but, comparing my z6 with my z9, z9 likes to grab the eye that is further from the camera while z6 will go for the closest eye. Also there is a "dance" with the selected eye in the z9 versus z6. Z6 locks on a eye and it tracks it. They improved the z9 af with firmware 1.10 was horrible. Z9 struggles to focus when there are flickery led lights in wedding reception, for example. By struggling I am referring to the fact that it will back focus on the ears of the subject 60% of the time. Is a nice body, the no shutter "magic" is amazing, evf is bright but nikon has to fix the af. I am finding grabbing my z6 for low light churches and venue.
That’s really crazy! I only used it for a few hours. I really hope they can fix it. They did fix the z6 overtime so hopefully they can tweak this until it’s Great. I think they are going in the right direction considering how far behind they were with mirrorless af.
@@livejames9374 my z9 got back from Nikon services. They told me the camera is fine. 3.0 fixed most of the issues. There are 3-4 things they need to fix now.
I wonder if there’s some internal tweaking and balancing that goes on in production because the cameras would seem to target different markets, one more oriented towards fine art / portrait, one more oriented towards fast action / sports. Just pure speculation though. Maybe test an R3 vs Z9 and R5 vs Z8/Z73?
Def can’t make any sharpness comparisons at 1/15s shutter speed. Sony sensors are better at shadow recovery, canon is better at highlight recovery. Stacked sensors negatively affect dynamic range as well, Z9 being in ES mode full time also negatively effects things. R5 has better dynamic range with mechanical shutter but worse in ES. Try Capture one, I find it’s is much better than LR with Z9 files.
@@SNAPAVELI if you shoot wider than f4 it’s never tack sharp. And considering the sensor is one dynamic stop worse, you’re essentially paying for 8k video and their autofocus software that doesn’t work.
@@SNAPAVELI to be fair I don’t know. I’m not a fan of the Z ecosystem. Hasn’t been a glass upgrade in primes since 2008 for longer glass. Only recent lens Nikon made that's any good is their 28mm 1.4E. Ironically, that lens is better than the $7500 Leica 28mm 1.4 ASPH. Lol
They are the Best lenses on the Planet the Z lenses Best ever 24-70 2.8 , Best Ever 70-200 (That CAN take a Convertor )>> do your Homework and get experience with the Z Mount advantage and the resultant Z lenses
@@Mr09260 not sure what you mean by that? Most of us portrait shooters use very fast lenses… 1.2 , 1.4 … Nikon still has no 85 1.2 or fast 35. Those are enough for a lot of people to pass on it. Nobody said Nikon glass wasn’t good
@@Mr09260 I shoot with primes. Used my my friend's Z7II for a bit and didn't care for the 1.8 primes when compared to my Sigma lenses. Price to value ratio just wasn't there for me. If Sigma ever does Z mount I might reconsider.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen this video…. The r5 has been the best focusing camera I’ve owned though. It’s not perfect but it’s great. The z9 felt really good too , not sure that I would say they one is for sure better than the other in focusing. Just my opinion
@@SNAPAVELI I don't have the RAW files, but it clearly seemed like there is only focus error not motion blur. 1/1000s should be more than plenty. At f/1.2 you are really asking for too much. Focus plane is so narrow so there is little surprise it is staying slightly behind in most cases. Hence you would normally shoot at narrower aperture and ideally a much longer lens for this type of image. Also it seems these lenses are quite soft wide open particularly over longer distances. Again at 8k resolution you are asking too much from your gear. In fact I was rather more interested if EVFs are workable at all in either of the cameras, because my R6 has driven me to the point I just want to get rid of it ASAP and stick with DSLRS for good
Your exposure on the z9 is 1-2 stops brighter than the R5 - when overexposing, its super hard to get an airy look. Havent got the z9, but in the test from the slanted lens, z9 was letting more light in, than the r5c. You cant expect that the same settings on both cameras equals the same amount of light 🙃 I've experienced this two times before, when using a digital camera to meter for an analog camera, using the completely same settings.
Im not sure, if that will solve the grading-issue though. As i said, i dont own the z9! ✌
In the outdoor dynamic range test, you shot at 1/15s with Z9 while you shot at 1/45s with R5. As a result, the original nikon file is much more overexposed than Canon one. Of course the Z9 won't recover the highlights like R5 at such obvious disadvantage.
The shutter speeds couldn’t be the same though considering the lenses t stops and the native iso on the Nikon goes to 64. The 50mm 1.2s let’s in less light than the rf version. I tried my best to eyeball it but the exposures weren’t very far apart. The z9 is excellent in everything except highlight recovery. Next week I’ll use a different file when I compare gfx, z9 and r5 in dynamic range
Ur every setting should be same and fixed in Manual mode at the time of comparison
@@trishitdutta8823 we were in manual but the different t stops made it impossible to shoot exactly the same
@@trishitdutta8823 he didn’t do a great job but at least he tried
The highlights!! Its the very thing I didn't hit what the heck.. it is the best way to explain what is happening!
Just got my Z9. I've been trying to test it and set it up. I'm shooting some portraits with it this week. No camera is perfect, but the Z9 is super capable. It's a leap forward on the Z6 and Z7 for those that have owned/used those bodies. I love shooting sports/ action/wildlife as well. If you only shoot portraits in slower situations, the other Z bodies will serve your needs. One caveat, in that, if you're a photographer that really wants to rely on eye auto focus for portrait work, the Z9 does eye autofocus with much more competency over the past Z bodies base on my usage so far. One man's opinion.
Definitely !! I hope people don’t get the impression that I didn’t like the z9. I think it’s Nikons best modern camera. I just wish it had the same sensor as z7
The huge software update that the Z9 received should improve things dramatically as tests have shown
R5 hands down over the Z9, especially for the price tag on the Z9. Also, R5 on the Electronic shutter setting is completely silent as well. But only at 20 fps.
Ive always noticed that the Nikon files are harder to pull down then pull up. I now always shoot slightly underexposed on my Z9's. Even 2 stops under is easy, but 2 stops over is garbage.
Definitely!! When I was shooting Nikon full time I did the same and was totally happy! In the real world nobody shoots over like that. It’s just to show how different each sensor is. I’m curious to see how my gfx does way over exposed like that.
@@SNAPAVELI For sure
The AF test should have been redone. Exposures were different and getting motion blur invalidates any test. The way these cameras work, you need to limit any variance from exposure to shutter lag.
Next, Sony sensor isn’t the issue specifically as the Z7 and D850 were Sony sensors. But you’re looking at Stacked Sensor performance. Until the A1, They had less DR and worse ISO performance.
I’ve always enjoyed your videos but this one was disappointing.
That’s valid. Usually when I do tests I own both cameras. I don’t own the z9 so I wasn’t shooting it. We just set both bodies to same settings. It’s definitely not scientific but what I can say is autofocus wise the z9 is really good. The dynamic range was still an issue but maybe the z8 will be the a7riv sensor who knows. I do appreciate you checking it out though
I was waiting for someone to say this. In addition, the comment that the Z9 shoots silently and doesn't make a sound, but there must be something somewhere to turn on a "beep" really said it all. That is, 9 months after the camera's release, I'm clueless as to the general function. Hard to watch and I agree, this is a video that shouldn't have been made until it was better performed.
i don't know if you can rate the dynamic range test that way because the z9 in 2023 still has problems with Lightroom. In Lightroom there is more noise than in c1 or other converters, which also affects the dynamic range. ok but not with the highlights I think
That’s fair! I did like the z9 , but I do use lightroom so it’s important that it performs well in there. I have several friends who own the z9 and all confirmed the z7 has noticeably better dynamic range. Hopefully the z8 will be better in that respect. I think it’s just that sensor from the a9 series. We need the sensor from the R series
It’s Lightroom it doesn’t handle the z9 files properly but in capture one it’s a night and day difference with the files. There is a lot of videos about it
I’ll have to try capture one. I’ve heard great things
D14 in menu option will turn on the notification that you have taken a photo on Z9.
Thank you! That’s definitely needed for me
Thank you for your video, J. Marcus!
I am struggling to decide whether to migrate from Fujifilm and Canon to Nikon. We had a Z7, but I was not happy with its auto focus and low light performance. The Canon R3 is a beast, but there are times that I wished I had more resolution. Since you are using all these cameras, what are your thoughts of switching ecosystems?
Possibly if you like the Nikon files try the z8? I’m pretty happy with my r5 and gfx but Nikon with the new glass and af system is on the same playing field now
@@SNAPAVELI - thank you! I know as soon as I sell my R3 and migrate, Canon will announce either the new R5 or R1.
In your opinion, is the R5 at three years old able to compete with the Z8?
@@johnpeterka8355 I haven’t tested the z8 yet but I did the z9 and I can say yes my r5 auto focus was just as good. Canon has a huge lenses line up too so I’m happy.
@@SNAPAVELI - Was the Z9's image quality as good or better than the R5?
@@johnpeterka8355 I think it was very close! I still think the z7 sensor is best in class for full frame. The z9 sensor is great color wise , it’s just not as good on dynamic range as the z7
Excellent test man. I agree with you on the dynamic range test, especially in the highlights. Photons site rates the R5 as having about 1/2 stop more dynamic range than the Z9. Photons site chart shows the R5 sensor indicates noise reduction. However, you can only reduce noise on information that's actually present in the image. I would think that's why the R5 is doing a little better. I will try your files in different software to see if the results are similar. Keep up the great comparisons!
Thank you so much!! Please let me know if you have similar results, I’m curious how the files look in capture one.
@@SNAPAVELI Just tested all files in two programs Luminar 4 and Luminar NEO(latest update). My results were very similar to yours. The Z9 overexposed image was completely clipped in the forehead, shoulders, nose, sky areas. The image was brought down over 2 stops and still not acceptable. However, the Z9 underexposed image recovered nicely but still flat compared to the same image on the R5. The R5 handled all images well and showed sharper quality in the eye and cheek areas.
@@MLee-vcrr thank you for that!! That’s the exact opposite of how I felt about the z7 files… they were even better in dynamic range than the r5 to me.
Have you tested the DR using C1 as the development platform?
I have not. Hopefully someone will download the files and see how it goes. I’ll probably dive into c1 in a few months
@@SNAPAVELI C1 tends to handle Sony files much better - might be worth a looking in too.
I'm interested in testing this in Capture One. I'm on vacation now but I will definitely download the files and test it when I get home.
Yes! Please let me know what you find!
@@SNAPAVELI Took a look at the files. I was able to repeat your exact results in the video with Capture One. However Capture One has a better exposure warning tools than lightroom and you can tell between the 2 overexposed files pretty quickly that the Nikon file is more overexposed than the R5 file. You can see in the data that the R5 file is ISO 100 1/45s f1.2 where as the Nikon file is ISO 100 1/15s f1.2 so not really comparing apples to apples here because the shutter speed is slower on the Nikon file. So I would repeat this test if you still have both cameras and use the same ISO, Shutter speed, and aperture for both cameras. I would assume the actual light transmission of the Canon vs Nikon lens is negligible so I think that would give you much closer results.
@@NickDelDuca thank you for that!! Ok what I’ll do is choose a different file for next weeks gfx , z9 , r5 dynamic range test. It was really hard to get them exact. Reason being , the iso needed to be minimum on each camera so iso 64 vs 100 on r5 meant the z9 needed lower shutter speed…. Then the z50 1.2 lens is a lot longer so with the t stop it didn’t let in as much light at the same settings as my rf 50. We did just have to eyeball it
@@SNAPAVELI In the examples you shared the ISO on both cameras was 100. On the photons to photos website the dynamic range chart for the Z9 shows it actually has way less dynamic range at 100iso vs 64. it's over half a stop .67. But the charts there also show the R5 has a little over half a stop more dynamic range than the Z9 at base ISO.
@@NickDelDuca oh ok! Let me look through the files and see if I have one at iso 64 in that test!
We are all waiting on what is coming next from Nikon. I have always been a Nikon shooter, bought my Z6's when they came out. Didn't move to the Z6II because I didn't see much difference, but I am waiting for the Z6III. I am not as scientific as any, but I like the Nikon files as well. So while I wait, I invested into Nikon Z Glass. For what I shoot(Weddings and Portraits) the lens are extremely capable for what I do, borderline perfect in my opinion. The 24-70 2.8S, 70-200 2.8S, 50 1.8S, 85 1.8S and soon the 105 2.8S. Your Videos are always honest, and like you say "You don't benefit one way are the other", just your honest opinion. I enjoy your comparison. I am going to buy what I want regardless. Canon maybe better at somethings, Sony maybe better at others, the system you invest in is up to you. Would I change because another Company comes out with a better camera(subjectively), and I have $1000s invested in my current system. Just My Opinion. Please continue with you comparisons.
Thank you for that!! I try to not get too scientific , I just love photography. Nikon files have always been really incredible to me. I have always liked their d850 z7 series files. Didn’t spend much time with the z6 but the z5 files really impressed me! I think sticking with Nikon is the way to go! I’m super curious about the z8. My r5 is serving me very well at the moment
Kind of strange to watch some videos about Z6 and all the problems that camera seem to have, according to some youtubers. I have taken slightly more than 100 000 exposures with my Z6, about 40 000 with my Z7 and I am extremely happpy. The Z6II that I have bought now is faster, but the Z6 is still in my bag together with the Z6II. I will be using the Z6 until it stops. The files are amazing.
The Z9 is absolutely amazing, recievced it last week but will not sell my Z6/6II maybe the Z7. For my every day workflow, the 6/6II will be the cameras of choice, Z9 for something else:-)
@@janpetterkristiansen5725 I also enjoyed Nikon , still do. I’ve taken some of my favorites shots with the z7! At the end of the day it’s just not practical to own too many systems
The thing is, which files looks closer to the real life, specially skin tones? Z9 or R5?
That’s a good question, possibly the z9 more color accurate. But I think canons has the most pleasant skin rendition
There are still some problem with light room when processing Z9 files
Hopefully they get it sorted soon!
Did you ever get a z8?
I didn’t , I’ve shot one, very nice camera but I’m still on my r5 , almost 600k on it and still trucking lol. My gfx100ii is the newest addition
The z9 bad eye af is a thing I get to with my 20mm 1.8s, 50mm 1.2s, 85mm 1.8s and 105mc. I don't know if you got this but, comparing my z6 with my z9, z9 likes to grab the eye that is further from the camera while z6 will go for the closest eye. Also there is a "dance" with the selected eye in the z9 versus z6. Z6 locks on a eye and it tracks it. They improved the z9 af with firmware 1.10 was horrible. Z9 struggles to focus when there are flickery led lights in wedding reception, for example. By struggling I am referring to the fact that it will back focus on the ears of the subject 60% of the time. Is a nice body, the no shutter "magic" is amazing, evf is bright but nikon has to fix the af. I am finding grabbing my z6 for low light churches and venue.
That’s really crazy! I only used it for a few hours. I really hope they can fix it. They did fix the z6 overtime so hopefully they can tweak this until it’s Great. I think they are going in the right direction considering how far behind they were with mirrorless af.
@@SNAPAVELI true, they fixed the z6. I am hoping for a big jump on the af with the firmware 3.0
Send your Z9 in. Eye af is different worlds better than Z6
@@MadManTnT shooting wider than 2.8 is the issue. The z9 does not hit tack sharp focus.
@@livejames9374 my z9 got back from Nikon services. They told me the camera is fine. 3.0 fixed most of the issues. There are 3-4 things they need to fix now.
Great work Snappaveli ❤❤❤
Thank you brother!!
I wonder if there’s some internal tweaking and balancing that goes on in production because the cameras would seem to target different markets, one more oriented towards fine art / portrait, one more oriented towards fast action / sports. Just pure speculation though. Maybe test an R3 vs Z9 and R5 vs Z8/Z73?
Yes I’d say so. I’d wait for z8 for the type of stuff I shoot. I’m happy with my r5 at the moment but z9 af with z7 level sensor would be attractive!
Spot on
Thanks so much for the video
No problem at all!!
So could you summerize it in text pls. I dont have time to watch it, but very interesting.
*Seems
Sure, they both focus just fine, dynamic range isn’t up to Nikons z7 on the z9 though. Still waiting on the z7 upgrade
That dynamic range test was well done. The highlights roll off is quite bad on the Z9. Great files from the R5. Would love to see a test with the R3.
Thank you!! I’ll try to get my hands on one!
The r5 looked like shit
Def can’t make any sharpness comparisons at 1/15s shutter speed. Sony sensors are better at shadow recovery, canon is better at highlight recovery. Stacked sensors negatively affect dynamic range as well, Z9 being in ES mode full time also negatively effects things. R5 has better dynamic range with mechanical shutter but worse in ES. Try Capture one, I find it’s is much better than LR with Z9 files.
Was really good, but first test def overexposed with the F1.2
Thank you! Yes it may have been a bit over on the af test. Both performed really well in that test.
Honestly the Z9 focused worse than my D850. I got rid of it and the 50mm 1.2. Next body I buy will be an A1 or the A1 replacement.
Jeez! I didn’t know it was that bad!
@@SNAPAVELI if you shoot wider than f4 it’s never tack sharp. And considering the sensor is one dynamic stop worse, you’re essentially paying for 8k video and their autofocus software that doesn’t work.
@@Tap-a-roo I don’t know why they can’t get it right
@@SNAPAVELI to be fair I don’t know. I’m not a fan of the Z ecosystem. Hasn’t been a glass upgrade in primes since 2008 for longer glass. Only recent lens Nikon made that's any good is their 28mm 1.4E. Ironically, that lens is better than the $7500 Leica 28mm 1.4 ASPH. Lol
@@SNAPAVELI fulcrum is a fool and never had a z9 or 50 1.2
Watched the whole video broski! Good stuff! Thought about getting a Z9 but not really a fan of most of the Z lenses available right now.
Thank you bro!! Yea I’d definitely wait until z8… might be more filled out
They are the Best lenses on the Planet the Z lenses Best ever 24-70 2.8 , Best Ever 70-200 (That CAN take a Convertor )>> do your Homework and get experience with the Z Mount advantage and the resultant Z lenses
@@Mr09260 not sure what you mean by that? Most of us portrait shooters use very fast lenses… 1.2 , 1.4 … Nikon still has no 85 1.2 or fast 35. Those are enough for a lot of people to pass on it. Nobody said Nikon glass wasn’t good
@@Mr09260 I shoot with primes. Used my my friend's Z7II for a bit and didn't care for the 1.8 primes when compared to my Sigma lenses. Price to value ratio just wasn't there for me. If Sigma ever does Z mount I might reconsider.
Charles bro. ❤❤❤
Maybe NX Studio can do better ?
I haven’t tried that yet!
Comparing a Z9 with a toasting Machine is like comparing a top end Ferrari with a Rust Bucket
I really don’t understand. They are both high megapixel cameras. Both have similar features, it’s fair
And I’ll still take the R5 any-day over the Z9 😂😂😂
Another dumb nikon fangirl..
Chill both are great cameras and canon fixed the overheating issue.
@@livejames9374 yes! I just filmed an entire day for a client no overheating!
Prefer the Z9
R5 focusing looks pretty awful in your examples
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen this video…. The r5 has been the best focusing camera I’ve owned though. It’s not perfect but it’s great. The z9 felt really good too , not sure that I would say they one is for sure better than the other in focusing. Just my opinion
@@SNAPAVELI Maybe it is the lens. Maybe should try a good copy of sigma art 40mm f/1.4 or 105 1.4. These are inane. Otherwise stick to f/2 or higher
@@photoneta yes, I also think my shutter speed was too low with her running
@@SNAPAVELI I don't have the RAW files, but it clearly seemed like there is only focus error not motion blur. 1/1000s should be more than plenty. At f/1.2 you are really asking for too much. Focus plane is so narrow so there is little surprise it is staying slightly behind in most cases. Hence you would normally shoot at narrower aperture and ideally a much longer lens for this type of image. Also it seems these lenses are quite soft wide open particularly over longer distances. Again at 8k resolution you are asking too much from your gear.
In fact I was rather more interested if EVFs are workable at all in either of the cameras, because my R6 has driven me to the point I just want to get rid of it ASAP and stick with DSLRS for good