HL1 Nihilanth final phase: *gets locked into using a weaker version of the same attack over and over again* BM Nihilanth final phase: *rains hellfire with an intense sense of fear and desperation*
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Although I applaud them for making a beautiful remake and enhancing the game mechanics, there are some subtle things that made Half-Life's atmosphere what it is that they should have kept. One example is the comparison at the beginning of the teleporter: look at Half-Life's version first. Look at that dreadful, endless empty black void in the background ripe for your imagination to manifest the most horrible things from the very depths of your mind. I recommend watching David Lynch talk about 'black'. Now look at BM's version: its a beautiful and peaceful vista with beautiful nebulae in the background and peaceful flying stingrays everywhere. Its a nice sight, but it lacks the "fear of the unknown" vibe. We see things very familiar to us, nebulae, sting/manta rays, a sun/star etc... This is just one example of many. Another would be at 0:23 Look at the creepy indifference in the face of the Nihilanth. The black voids for eyes are reminiscent of the emotionless eyes of insects or spiders. Now look at BM, his face looks super emotional and pissed off which makes him too human imo. It might just be nostalgia talking, but I'm not sure. Either way I'm glad they remade it into something of their own instead of just making it a graphical update... P.S. When you approach the teleporter in HL, you can hear the whispers of everything your fellow scientists and colleagues said to you during the game which just multiplies the eeriness. I can't tell if the kept that in BM...
Thank you for writing in! I can totally understand the points you are trying to make & they are really good. I will take your recommendation and looks up that talk by Lynch (one of my favorite directors!). Also, you can hear the whispers of fellow scientist in BM version as well, you just can't hear them in my video due to the music.
@@crispyjeb I just remembered that every outdoor area in HL had an skybox except that last bit with the teleporter. Once you get there, you can feel the heaviness of that blackness. There is nothing there but the ominous teleporter, the only way through is through it. But its cool what they did with BM as well, they make the teleporter visible from the start of Xen which is an interesting take on things similar to how the citadel was visible and looming throughout the majority of HL2
Sometimes less is more, something Black Mesa doesn't get, everything has to be over the top, overly detailed with the action in many sections scaled up to a point of ridiculousness.
@@antondavidovic3996 I personally always found the black skybox distracting, it looked rather fake and, as you said, all previous maps had skyboxes, so it felt out of place. It didn't really manage to convey the impression of a dark void of blackness because of how perfectly lit the platforms are. Also, I'm pretty sure the only reason Half-Life Nihilanth is emotionless is not because of a stylistic choice but purely because 1998 Goldsource didn't have the technology to convey facial expressions other than mouth movement. EDIT: One more thing, I really don' find the sight of the manta rays peaceful since we know these are alien crafts capable of destroying military gunships, I felt rather tiny and threatened walking among so many of them.
Few things that I found lacking in Black Mesa Xen: 1. The eerie atmosphere and utter alien look. The skyboxes in HL had these weird shapes and unreal massive geometry, in Black Mesa it looks like we're inside a nebula of some sort, like the Xen was somewhere in our plane of existence. It didn't look like some different dimension, like it did in HL. To me Xen seemed like a dimension made out of pockets of different spacetime, where only some harbored spacetime suitable for life to exist. 2. Nihilanth didn't look as threatening. The boss fight was superb but the way he looked didn't look as scary as he did in original. Those holes where eyes and a mouth supposed to be with the cybernetic modification he had attached to signified that he may have been the slave who got out. As we know now, Nihilanth species were running from the Combine, so all that was done to this last of his kind almost seems similar to what would the combine do to the species they want to enslave.
New Xen levels are epic, and I love their design. Xen levels were one of the few things that I did not like in original Half-Life, the were made in hurry and they are unpolished. Also in Black Mesa I like that threre are not many teleports between next stages, to most of them you are moving on foot. New Nihilanth fight is much better designed than in original game. The only things that I don't like in Black Mesa Xen levels are fight with Gonarch (I think it was unnecessary level in original Half-Life, I did not like it as well) and alien controllers fights on elevator stage. I played original Half-Life and its sequels since a very long time, but Black Mesa is very impressive remake of this game.
While I think Nihilanth was better in the original Half-Life in terms of appearance (It looked much more terrifying), I found the battle itself really annoying. The fight against Black Mesa's Nihilanth was so much more fun and intense. Interesting how the entirety of Xen itself took up almost an entire third of my playthrough of Black Mesa. Not that I'm complaining. It was fun.
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something this video missed out on was the alternative ending, which had me almost shit my pants that shit was scary. I think the remake made that part so much better! But IMO the BM nihilanth was less scary with just a bigger atmosphere..
At least it wasn't a disappointment like the gene worm from opposing force. I love that game more than the original half life but good God was that boss fight horrible. The pit worm was a little better but I felt it was just another tentacle fight.
And Operation Black Mesa will make Pit Worm and Gene Worm fight even more epic-er than this. Pit Worm : Gonarch and tentacle combination Gene Worm : Final Boss of the first Borderland except even more harder than the original Mark my words.
@@forthesakeofthenationalist9375 gotta love how gearbox had not alot of inspiration took their gene worm,modified and putted it as their last boss of borderland and named it as a non original name called the destroyer. it comes out of a pink portal on top of that. half life and borderlands are in the same universe confirmed. borderland 4 with race x featured when?
I may be a half life fanboy when saying this but I'm kinda disappointed with how they changed the fight with Nihilanth. Visually it's incredible bar none but the mechanics of the fight feel like a step backwards. Rather than taking what valve made with the large arena and the different areas that Nihilanth teleports you to that all have unique and creative hazards and expanding on that, they just made the arena smaller, removed the different areas all together and just beefed up Nihilanth's attacks, all the while he keeps shouting the same line "now die!" at you. Nihilanth said and alluded to so much more with his dialogue in the original. Maybe I'm in the minority and people find the original fight tedious, but the new version just feels like they are trying to damage control what Valve created for a more casual approach rather than expanding upon it.
Thanks for writing in, I appreciate what you're saying here. Having replayed the original boss fight recently, I found it very frustrating and cumbersome. Having to push, Shift+Ctrl+Space Bar+W, keys all at the same time to properly navigate the hazards he teleports you to was not very fun for me. Especially the part where he teleports you into the tall vertical shaft & you have to platform you way back up to the teleporter to get back to the fight. That part really bummed me out because it was so frustrating. Even though the BM version is simplified in it's mechanics, I found the experience more pleasant. Not to mention how visually and aurally stunning it is! Anyways, thanks for dropping by the channel, hope to see ya around some more! We will definitely be doing more Half Life related content around here in the future. :D
I love the originals cosmic horror vibe voice more tbh. Its was so creepy when I was a kid it made me kinda terrified if there were aliens like him out there. And even more so when the Nihilanth says they are running from something and that they are slaves.
I'm with you, I prefer the creepier tones of the OG Nihilanth, his look and his voice. I didn't find his teleporting attack annoying in the sense of a game mechanic, but in a sense that made me dread fighting him more, which is a good thing when portraying an eldritch god... It seems that new FPS games are in pursuit of what Doom 2016 has established. This fight does look entertaining and neat, but they turned an indifferent, insect-like eldritch god who communicates telepathically into an evil, brainiac mastermind-archetype who taunts the protagonist. This boss fight reminds me more of the Spider mastermind boss from Doom 2016 than the OG Nihilanth. Unfortunately we live in a time where subtlety is a thing of the past and instant gratification rules...
One thing the remake done right: removed those damn portals. Man those things can be annoying if you are in the wrong places(far from those spikey stones)
I hate to say this, and possibly trigger a rage of Half-Life fans, but the Black Mesa remake is so much better than HL. The og half life, kinda sucks... Forgive me....
Nihilanth black mesa is way better then half life sourse nihilanth sepacly too he has theeth and he has eyes in the old one he didnt had any eye balls and hi mouth look like this 😮 i think the nihilath from black mesa will kill the half life sourse one
Couldn't stand the new Nihilanth. Sure there were improvements but overall it was gimmicky and halloweenish. Reminded me more of Harry Potter than Half-life
![Black Mesa: Definitive Edition - 18/19 - Nihilanth/Endgame [Hard]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/C8tFxhPLacA/mqdefault.jpg)
HL1 Nihilanth final phase: *gets locked into using a weaker version of the same attack over and over again*
BM Nihilanth final phase: *rains hellfire with an intense sense of fear and desperation*
Yeah, it's way more elaborate and intense!
I really dig what Collective Crow bar has done.
Though it is interesting that it got weaker and weaker, since its voice also sounded weak and tired
Now, I wish Tripmine Studios can make Pit and Gene Worm fight even more epic-er than this.
Something i really like about black mesa's version is that he teleport 's bits of black mesa in to the arena for health and ammo.
Yeah I noticed that too.
Neat touch.
I think they made that boss fight much better.
GameScape yeah originally if you ran low on ammo you had to let him teleport you
Yeah, it's so cool, also in that part I was expecting in one of those rooms a HECU extremly confused and looking everything in horror
Marina Beltran that would be very immersive and dope
The cars that are getting thrown through actual see through portals are really cool in the Black Mesa version.
I really love how you put music Elevator Battle
It's great music!
1:27 - Interesting detail, how Gordon suddenly drops his weapons as the dying Nihilanth vacuums him in.
Yeah, right after that the Gman claims he was the one who stripped him of his weapons.
However, he allows him to keep his hazard suit.
It’s incredible how they made Xen so much more epic and cinematic than I ever would have imagined!
Stephen Flesch at the end big old island explodes which is epic
Yes, but they did so at the cost of a faithful Xen Aesthetic. It was supposed to have a creepy biological vibe, not be a beautiful Oceanic experience
JimmyAquila it looks more "Alien hungry jungle" than anything.
@@blackoutninja It was rushed...
Thats why it looked the way it did not because they wanted it to look that way.
@@TheEbenenGolem I think you're correct
Just finished the remake today and all I
can say is, what a masterpiece.
Yeah!
It was one hell of a ride!
If you need to see a little more in terms of comparison footage.
Check out these two additional videos:
th-cam.com/video/wJx9YL77ssw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-f3gaez_OJM/w-d-xo.html
Although I applaud them for making a beautiful remake and enhancing the game mechanics, there are some subtle things that made Half-Life's atmosphere what it is that they should have kept. One example is the comparison at the beginning of the teleporter: look at Half-Life's version first. Look at that dreadful, endless empty black void in the background ripe for your imagination to manifest the most horrible things from the very depths of your mind. I recommend watching David Lynch talk about 'black'. Now look at BM's version: its a beautiful and peaceful vista with beautiful nebulae in the background and peaceful flying stingrays everywhere. Its a nice sight, but it lacks the "fear of the unknown" vibe. We see things very familiar to us, nebulae, sting/manta rays, a sun/star etc... This is just one example of many. Another would be at 0:23 Look at the creepy indifference in the face of the Nihilanth. The black voids for eyes are reminiscent of the emotionless eyes of insects or spiders. Now look at BM, his face looks super emotional and pissed off which makes him too human imo. It might just be nostalgia talking, but I'm not sure. Either way I'm glad they remade it into something of their own instead of just making it a graphical update...
P.S. When you approach the teleporter in HL, you can hear the whispers of everything your fellow scientists and colleagues said to you during the game which just multiplies the eeriness. I can't tell if the kept that in BM...
Thank you for writing in! I can totally understand the points you are trying to make & they are really good. I will take your recommendation and looks up that talk by Lynch (one of my favorite directors!). Also, you can hear the whispers of fellow scientist in BM version as well, you just can't hear them in my video due to the music.
@@crispyjeb I just remembered that every outdoor area in HL had an skybox except that last bit with the teleporter. Once you get there, you can feel the heaviness of that blackness. There is nothing there but the ominous teleporter, the only way through is through it. But its cool what they did with BM as well, they make the teleporter visible from the start of Xen which is an interesting take on things similar to how the citadel was visible and looming throughout the majority of HL2
Sometimes less is more, something Black Mesa doesn't get, everything has to be over the top, overly detailed with the action in many sections scaled up to a point of ridiculousness.
That black emptiness with that red teleport light scared the hell out me every time.
@@antondavidovic3996 I personally always found the black skybox distracting, it looked rather fake and, as you said, all previous maps had skyboxes, so it felt out of place. It didn't really manage to convey the impression of a dark void of blackness because of how perfectly lit the platforms are.
Also, I'm pretty sure the only reason Half-Life Nihilanth is emotionless is not because of a stylistic choice but purely because 1998 Goldsource didn't have the technology to convey facial expressions other than mouth movement.
EDIT: One more thing, I really don' find the sight of the manta rays peaceful since we know these are alien crafts capable of destroying military gunships, I felt rather tiny and threatened walking among so many of them.
Cool seeing these side by side. The difference is amazing!
Yeah, Crowbar Collective has done a great job remaking the game & expanding upon the Xen section.
Have you ever played?
GameScape nah first time I saw it was you playing a few months back. It’s pc I think you said and I don’t really play anything on my computer.
Black Mesa's Nihilanth is a Touhou bossfight
Half Life's Nihilanth is "get teleported into room and leave it then shoot weak point" until he dies.
"The last... I'm the last..." "Freeeeeeeemannnnn".
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Bruh why the title be showing a pic of a fetus vs the bm nihilanth
Whoops! How did that get in there??
Few things that I found lacking in Black Mesa Xen:
1. The eerie atmosphere and utter alien look. The skyboxes in HL had these weird shapes and unreal massive geometry, in Black Mesa it looks like we're inside a nebula of some sort, like the Xen was somewhere in our plane of existence. It didn't look like some different dimension, like it did in HL. To me Xen seemed like a dimension made out of pockets of different spacetime, where only some harbored spacetime suitable for life to exist.
2. Nihilanth didn't look as threatening. The boss fight was superb but the way he looked didn't look as scary as he did in original. Those holes where eyes and a mouth supposed to be with the cybernetic modification he had attached to signified that he may have been the slave who got out. As we know now, Nihilanth species were running from the Combine, so all that was done to this last of his kind almost seems similar to what would the combine do to the species they want to enslave.
song: Joel Nielsen Xen Soundtrack 13 Ascension
Dude, absolutely love it!
Half Life is one of my favourite series!!
Liked and subscribed, keep up the amazing work here 👍
Me too! Welcome to the channel!
Thank you & I'll be sure to drop by your channel soon!
@@crispyjeb thanks 👍
New Xen levels are epic, and I love their design. Xen levels were one of the few things that I did not like in original Half-Life, the were made in hurry and they are unpolished. Also in Black Mesa I like that threre are not many teleports between next stages, to most of them you are moving on foot. New Nihilanth fight is much better designed than in original game. The only things that I don't like in Black Mesa Xen levels are fight with Gonarch (I think it was unnecessary level in original Half-Life, I did not like it as well) and alien controllers fights on elevator stage.
I played original Half-Life and its sequels since a very long time, but Black Mesa is very impressive remake of this game.
Yeah, I love how they have expanded on what was there before.
It almost feels like it's own contained little game.
While I think Nihilanth was better in the original Half-Life in terms of appearance (It looked much more terrifying), I found the battle itself really annoying. The fight against Black Mesa's Nihilanth was so much more fun and intense.
Interesting how the entirety of Xen itself took up almost an entire third of my playthrough of Black Mesa. Not that I'm complaining. It was fun.
This comparison is epic.
Thanks! If you enjoyed that, perhaps you may enjoy these earlier comparison from the beta as well!
th-cam.com/video/wJx9YL77ssw/w-d-xo.html
&
th-cam.com/video/-f3gaez_OJM/w-d-xo.html
@@crispyjebI will :)
I LOVEEEEEE JOELNIELSENMUSIC ASCENCION
me too!
something this video missed out on was the alternative ending, which had me almost shit my pants that shit was scary. I think the remake made that part so much better! But IMO the BM nihilanth was less scary with just a bigger atmosphere..
Yup, after I finished the video I realized that I probably should have included that one bit!
:D
GameScape post a new video on both endings ;D
Black Mesa is a Master Piece
Huh, the new one is actually a bit less scary IMO
hl1 nihilanth is a chad compared to the bm one
New boss fight looks INTENSE!!! The original was good for the time but looking back it wasn't action packed at all.
it wasn't very good of a boss fight even back then, honestly.
Pepper Millers I give it passable grade I’ve definitely seen worse
At least it wasn't a disappointment like the gene worm from opposing force. I love that game more than the original half life but good God was that boss fight horrible. The pit worm was a little better but I felt it was just another tentacle fight.
@@dfrozen4022 I would say that the Gene Worm is disappointing and bad, but it's not as obnoxious
Pepper Millers yes
Bellissimo montaggio
U forgot the bad end
arrrgh! you're right, I did forget!
I don't remember a Gargantua in the original bad end
Sergio Espinoza Cabello it’s a remake so not everything is the same
Black mesa nihilath fight : war of univer god
Half lie nihilath fight : slow war
And Operation Black Mesa will make Pit Worm and Gene Worm fight even more epic-er than this.
Pit Worm : Gonarch and tentacle combination
Gene Worm : Final Boss of the first Borderland except even more harder than the original
Mark my words.
@@forthesakeofthenationalist9375 gotta love how gearbox had not alot of inspiration took their gene worm,modified and putted it as their last boss of borderland and named it as a non original name called the destroyer. it comes out of a pink portal on top of that. half life and borderlands are in the same universe confirmed. borderland 4 with race x featured when?
I may be a half life fanboy when saying this but I'm kinda disappointed with how they changed the fight with Nihilanth. Visually it's incredible bar none but the mechanics of the fight feel like a step backwards. Rather than taking what valve made with the large arena and the different areas that Nihilanth teleports you to that all have unique and creative hazards and expanding on that, they just made the arena smaller, removed the different areas all together and just beefed up Nihilanth's attacks, all the while he keeps shouting the same line "now die!" at you. Nihilanth said and alluded to so much more with his dialogue in the original. Maybe I'm in the minority and people find the original fight tedious, but the new version just feels like they are trying to damage control what Valve created for a more casual approach rather than expanding upon it.
The repeating 'now die' line is a glitch; There are other lines, but Crowbar Collective needs to release a patch to get them to be heard
Thanks for writing in, I appreciate what you're saying here.
Having replayed the original boss fight recently, I found it very frustrating and cumbersome.
Having to push, Shift+Ctrl+Space Bar+W, keys all at the same time to properly navigate the hazards he teleports you to was not very fun for me.
Especially the part where he teleports you into the tall vertical shaft & you have to platform you way back up to the teleporter to get back to the fight.
That part really bummed me out because it was so frustrating.
Even though the BM version is simplified in it's mechanics, I found the experience more pleasant.
Not to mention how visually and aurally stunning it is!
Anyways, thanks for dropping by the channel, hope to see ya around some more!
We will definitely be doing more Half Life related content around here in the future.
:D
@@GLBHemstreet that's good news I'm glad they are gonna fix that!
I love the originals cosmic horror vibe voice more tbh. Its was so creepy when I was a kid it made me kinda terrified if there were aliens like him out there. And even more so when the Nihilanth says they are running from something and that they are slaves.
I'm with you, I prefer the creepier tones of the OG Nihilanth, his look and his voice. I didn't find his teleporting attack annoying in the sense of a game mechanic, but in a sense that made me dread fighting him more, which is a good thing when portraying an eldritch god... It seems that new FPS games are in pursuit of what Doom 2016 has established. This fight does look entertaining and neat, but they turned an indifferent, insect-like eldritch god who communicates telepathically into an evil, brainiac mastermind-archetype who taunts the protagonist. This boss fight reminds me more of the Spider mastermind boss from Doom 2016 than the OG Nihilanth. Unfortunately we live in a time where subtlety is a thing of the past and instant gratification rules...
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One thing the remake done right: removed those damn portals. Man those things can be annoying if you are in the wrong places(far from those spikey stones)
Good video!
thanks!
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I so badly wish some developer remakes half life 1 for consoles using unreal engine 4.Check out project lambda.
Looking at it now, looks amazing.
Sounds like the project is still in it's infant stage though.
But they could port the game over to consoles if they and Valve wanted to. Games like Apex and TItanfall run on Source Engine, so it's not impossible.
I hate to say this, and possibly trigger a rage of Half-Life fans, but the Black Mesa remake is so much better than HL.
The og half life, kinda sucks...
Forgive me....
👀😬🤣
@@crispyjeb I know, I know...
It's just that, the BM remake is so good though! I mean come on, I'm not the only one! Right?
Yeah I’m with you. I absolutely loved it.
@@crispyjeb Thanks, at least I didn't feel like I was a total asshole to everyone saying that...
@@MegaMan.exe20XX I enjoy both versions. Why enjoy one when you can enjoy both.
Freeeeemaaaaaannn...
Wow 😳
nice
Nihilanth black mesa is way better then half life sourse nihilanth sepacly too he has theeth and he has eyes in the old one he didnt had any eye balls and hi mouth look like this 😮 i think the nihilath from black mesa will kill the half life sourse one
What in the hell are you saying
Couldn't stand the new Nihilanth. Sure there were improvements but overall it was gimmicky and halloweenish. Reminded me more of Harry Potter than Half-life