Todd basically pushed 'security' out of the way recently, when I asked for a photo. The guy that was slightly above event staff, was stretching his arms out so I couldn't get to him. Todd McFarlane then put his hand on the guy to get him to move and said "Move out of the way, so he can get a picture"... then he came up to me and said "Let's walk" and he smiled for a "selfie", and he saw the picture pop up and he said "Man, you gotta clean that lenses". I think he was offering for a "cleaner" photo, but at that point, I didn't even care about the photo, seeing him tell Security to f*ck off so I could get a selfie with him made my day! I saw Spawn in the theater back in the 90's, the one with Michael Jai White. I liked it at the time because all we had was Batman, Blade and Spawn for good comic book movies (until X-Men in 2000). I think SPAWN deserves a REALLY GOOD film. One of the few times I will say a "Reboot" would be good.
I wasn't too excited about this Spawn movie with "barely any Spawn in it" but you know what, Todd convinced me. One of my greatest regrets regarding BvS's reception was that WB and the other studios would use it as an excuse to NOT attempt another movie with that tone...when most of the audience knows the problems existed within the script. The fact that McFarlane knows the difference between the studios' idea of "mature & gritty" versus the actual meaning of those words gives me hope Spawn could be pretty great if the script is solid.
What the problem is is that Disney and wbs. Wants to have merchandises all the fucking time and they want their movies to only be PG 13 or lower because they want kids to see it. Hollywood would never fucking change until one day someone will grab them by the balls and make them fucking open their fucking eyes for once.
@@JordanWheeler1999 the problem in this case is that hollywood studios need to have a defined genre for the movie so they can feel safe investing in it knowing that its targeted to its according audience, why can you have horror movies with gore and insane characters? because its tagged as HORROR right from the start, you can define it with one word so regular people know what theyre getting into, but when you go to them saying "its a serious suspense, slow paced gritty drama, horror, action...oh and its based on a comic book character" they go "comic book character?, thats hot right now, lose all the other shit about being serious" for the studios comic book movies can only be mixed with comedy, and im sorry if you liked GotG but that movie only made all the other studios say "make it like GotG, jokes muthafucka, i want jokes!!". i liked BvS for what it TRIED to do, but it failed so, its gonna be very rare to see another studio attempting to do that shit again.
@@MegaSilverBlood gotg never said that they want every comicbook movie to be like them the studios choice to use the gotg formula. Comicbook movies stages is mostly comedy because of the mcu. They don't need to compete to each other they need to make their damn own films
@@MegaSilverBlood When you see dark and gritty look at saw and final destination. Those are the real deal. When people compare it to dc it's like putting a salt in a wound. If dc wants to make dark and gritty movies they should but they shouldn't be holding some bodies hand like a fucking kid. They should man the fuck up and never hold back their imagination
@@JordanWheeler1999 my point is studios follow the money, of course gunn and company werent trying to set a trend, but it did, yes the mcu had that formula before gotg but in that one they doubled down on the jokes, and then the next mcu movies tried to do the same, have jokes where you dont really need them, and so all the other studios copied that
@@babyverse9824 There's a lot of adult comic movies. Watchmen, Blade, Logan, The Punisher, V for Vendetta, Wanted, Sin City, The Crow etc. The Dark Knight trilogy isn't really made for kids imo either. You just need to watch more movies
The Dark Knight Returns you stupid. You missing dark man, man of steel, Hancock, un breakable split, You dumb as hell. All super hero movies should be rated r. It’s not right to sell violence to kids. It creates idiots like you. Who think tho know everything. But get surprised when they actually get hurt
@@gummibear696 foxx last few movies i can see it, maybe not commit to him 100% but i think he can get it done ...hes at a age where he wants to do more grissled movied
@oldudereeno he actually can act... you must have never seen hbo the wire.. a big reason he shouldnt is because he shouldnt be tied down to a franchise that might produce a sub par bad script.
Agreed..but Jamie Foxx? I dont care if there good friends. I dont think it will work. Jamie foxx just bitter they didn't cast him in black panther. So he grasping to anything..
@@mazeful6345 I would say that Todd is a close third, right behind Jim Lee, though I know that a lot of people think Lee is overrated, but for me he is up there with Alex Ross
Part of me definitely thinks that the idea behind the new Spawn movie is really cool (where the focus is on the two detectives investigating the murders of the bad guys that Spawn has committed and Spawn is more of a shadowy figured "boogie man" that you probably won't see a whole lot of because it's through the perspective of the two dics. And in the end they probably figure out that there's some big evil that Spawn is fighting so they realize he's the "good guy") but at the same time I really want a full on Spawn movie with Spawn being the main character. Something that starts over completely, telling his origin story, and putting him up against the first big bad of hopefully many. Basically a cross between the original live action movie (with better effects obviously) and the awesome cartoon version. A serious tone like the cartoon that follows the story of the comic but having Spawn pitted against a better character from the comic. Their is so much there that there's no reason there couldn't be at least a trilogy of movies that are each at least 2 1/2 hours long!
Personally I've come to imagine it kind of like Predator 2, Jaws, Alien and Hellraiser. Who's the main character? The human cop, the human space-trucker or the human girl who might be dead by the end of the movie. The difference is that Spawn isn't that kind of movie monster but is a figure with fragmented memories and conflicting instincts trying to figure out its abilities, its limits and why it haunts this part of New York.
@chango vato I can see the scary End of Watch. But I wouldn't say I gave any ideas, just comparisons. Ideas would be that if this Spawn is mute he has the ability from the animated series to interact with your mind by simply touching you and that his costume has the shapeshifting ability from the 90s movie so he can hide almost anywhere and his cape "bleeds" over into the distinctive red only once he's angry and wants to be seen. Done well (in the horror movie sense) that could be terrific.
ThatGuyChico LOOOOOOL are u kidding bro? Never. It’s fuckin Disney that owns marvel they would never release such “violent” character on the big screen same goes for ghost rider, daredevil and punisher. But the mass audience who know nothing about marvel think they’re all so good when in reality good majority are either trash or average which is no excuse for a superhero movie. (With the exception of a small few that are good). Every hero is a damn comedian hell even the villains are comedians (ultron). That being said I’d love see a blade movie but it will never happen as long as its under Disney which will remain forever. And Rip daredevil.
@@Guts1022 right but who would of taught we would ever get A "Deadpool" Movie even tho 21st Century Fox owns the rights. After Avengers 4 hopefully in Phase 5 we will see "Galactus" or Spiderman Villians Kraven the Hunter or Morbius. I would love to see a BLADE vs Morbius movie 🙏
@@dirgramsey6132 i never said i wanted Jamie Foxx as Spawn. But BLADE fits Wesley Snipes. Most of the people playing superheros now are in their Early to Late 40s. As long as they are committed to the role thats all that matters.
Huge fan of Spawn, in the beginning he wanted it to be low budget, now he talks about how Hollywood doesn't get it which means he's trying to get it funded like iron man. 😔 today i untrend this mans idea, not getting anywhere.
@DamageIncM except that the spawn that people thought was cool ain't what McFarlane wants to do. he wants to make like a detective/ghost story. that ain't spawn and it ain't cool. as far as the marvel slate, until they drop the ball I've got faith in their films
Not just a great artist and visionary but a brilliant business man. Todd had such a huge part in the my life as a comic book lover and artist. Thank you
I've been following Todd since the early 90s. He's talented but a huge egomaniac. Spawn has been in development hell for 20 years. Not for funding but because he is too stubborn to budge on every aspect.
@@RevRyukin7 it ain't happening bro it was in development in blum House but they kicked it out... If blumhouse throws it... a production house which tries new things not giving any shit but throws a spawn movie soo yaa Todd is kind of a dick to his own creation never seeing the light
@@bill9068 The movie was Rated R proven by a 2 second google look up. What is scary? Is jump scares scary or is it the possibility your seemingly nice neighbor is a murderous psychopath. Yeah its not a surreal acid trip showing you intense imagery of brutal actions or gore-filled spectacle but it is showing you a horrific world that would be scary to live in. Where the actions of 1 insane man driven to disparity can evoke a class war big enough to shake the foundations of a massive city like Gotham. I didn't say Todd was right on the money but to say that Joker wasn't scary is just wrong. for gods sake the man breaks into his neighbors home because of his delusions thinking everything would be fine, how is that not terrifying? how does it not make you look at your nice neighbor differently? or after murdering 3 business men on a subway he slowly dances like a ballerina. That's creepy. That's a glimpse of what I think Todd's intentions would be like. But I suppose too Todd would make a movie for comic book adults and not regular joe shmoe adults like Philips did.
@@bill9068 Both can be scary? I dont see the issue? How did we get to Gotham? What does any of this matter to a 2 year old comment? Find out next time, Same BatChannel Same Bat TIme
Tod was spot-on in his comments about a more dark, sinister, tortured Joker movie adaption. This posting, in 2018, was a year prior to the Joaquin Phoenix Joker character was unleashed in theaters. Heath Ledger's Joker in Dark Knight in 2008 was the pivot point from the character's earlier portrayals.
@@ad_1273 Netflix just needs to stream it, that's it. They should have no say in the making off. But I definitely think it should be on Netflix and released in theaters
Spawn always takes it a step further. It is like Punisher and Ghostrider fused vs a super powered Joker who is a child serial killer. Spawn done right is a horror movie and a slasher murder movie combined.
he actually has a point, imagine a movie with the main character just completely insane, kills people, all horrified of the things he has done, more of a silence of lamb feel like what they said then after all of towards the end of it all. Scene his in a dark room nothing but a mirror and a lamp, complete silence then we here a sadistic laugh coming closer and closer as it approaches boom "lights off" total silence and darkness "lights on" him sitting in front of the mirror with the joker make up on his face. turns out he is The Joker. but unfortunately no studio is brave enough to do it. the closest we had was the post credit scene in Split revealing David Dunn in a Diner.
So punisher or deadpool maybe cable? Deathstroke uh all kinds of other ones lol Hellboy .... Lot's spawn is neat but a prequel movie star wars story style is odd but they are going to try it
I use to not think Jamie could pull it off BUT dude is an amazing actor and he's diverse. He's one of those people you watch and he really takes on the character (ie Django, Ray Charles, soloist, robin hood etc)
Sin city worked without any comedy and a unique movie. Give spawn a chance!!!! Love the original, love the comics!!! Let’s do this!!! Or crowd fund it?
I've never seen the original *Spawn* at all. I don't think it has been on TV and if it did, that's a very rare showing. But I'm psyched for this one. Todd was one of my favourite artists for Marvel in the late 80s early 90s.
When i listen to Todd talking about his own creation, i cannot stop imagining a guy creating an assault rifle out of some rocks and dry leafs, then charging into battle, using it as a bludgeon.
Todd McFarlane is a master business man, always creating, always thinking 10 steps ahead, that's why I admire him, not as a comic book artist, but how he teaches people, "it's fun to create, it's even better when you create and people love it"
YES! YES! YES! This is what I have been trying to explain to people that have been saying they want the same style spawn movie from 1997! I liked the 1997 movie too. But christ, Todd's vision is what I have always wanted from a spawn movie! It's what made the series so damn good! When spawn hit the big screen, everyone hated it and frankly most people still do. It's actually amazing to me people are debating this.
There's only one director I can think off when it comes to appropriate Spawn vision. David Fincher. Spawn is in the same sense as Seven with the dark and just bold movie to make. But he can go even further beyond.
Really looking forward to this new version of Spawn. I think Brightburn is the horror tone that I think Spawn is aiming for. If Brightburn is a success it will help sell the hero horror concept. Imagine a hero that stalks antagonists like Jason in Halloween?
It's probably never coming out. The problem has never been selling the concept of Spawn as a movie. The problem is that Todd insists that HE be the director of the film. As long as he continues to make that part of the deal, nobody with any sense is going to finance it. The only reason the story picked up some steam a while back was because Todd announced that his own company would be financing the movie. Looks like he's changed his mind (smart move), since they're now back to looking for financing.
@@WyldstaarStudios Yea man it's so frustrating the way this movie keeps getting dragged out. Todd just needs to team up with a horror director he trusts. As long as he stay's the producer of the film, he can have final cut privileges.
Sounds like absolutely nothing is happening with this Spawn movie and Todd is still trying to sell the idea to anyone that will listen or a studio that will bite like he's been doing the last 20 years. Almost 2 years ago he said things were pretty much done and production was starting early 2018 and still nothing has happened. Things sound pretty shaky because he has one vision and doesn't want to budge on it. A studio is not going to give this guy millions of dollars and let him direct whatever the hell he wants because he says any movie that superhero related will work and make money. WRONG! Letting him direct and write this movie is a huge mistake and I've said that from the start. Anyway, I still don't believe at all this movie is even going to happen within the next 5 year or at all because Todd won't let it. He's his own worst enemy.
MAGNUM he wants spawn to be a horror film where you barely get to see him. He’s like some kind of ghost. And 2 detectives are investigating the murders he commits. Something like that.
What are u talking about? Did u even watch the video he clearly said that if it doesn’t work it doesn’t work. He wants to take a leap and try his way what is wrong with that? That’s the LEAST we can do for the CREATOR of spawn. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. “Letting him direct and write this movie is a huge mistake” LMAO what the fuck this isn’t m night shamaluan and avatar the last air bender buddy who knows nothing of what he’s directing about.
@@Guts1022 if he doesn't have faith in it from the beginning why should a studio? Yaa studios movies fail all the time bt they take a project hoping I might work... But as Todd say it may or may not is not a good way to start a movie... Dude millions of dollars are wasting for a trying purpose.. This guys takes examples of venom logan deadpool and joker... But these are very highly popular characters spawn is not that famous now soo no one cares
I love Spawn. One of the best comic book plots ever and is willing to talk about Heaven and Hell. I'm still upset I don't know what happened to my #1 Curse of the Spawn comic that I bought when I was a kid in that late 90s. I'm hoping my future self time traveled and took it to sell or barter for some great cause 😅
This guy is willing to go there and I'm glad but as far as I'm concerned Michael Jai White is Spawn and it wasn't his fault the movie didn't go because he's always been underrated
I think he should try his hand at a smaller scale project first. Adi Shankar made some cool movies about different fictional characters. I'm really into the idea of putting a comic book hero in the background and playing with the POV. I always thought the best Batman movie would have ordinary criminals as the main characters and Batman as the antagonist. There's so much you can do with the idea because he's usually two steps ahead of his enemies. It would be an interesting change for viewers to see Batman as the ordinary thugs do. I thought the Gotham show was going to do something like this when it was first announced.
3 reasons Mcfarlane's version is going to suck. I see why Mcfarlane has been having a hard time getting the studios to buy into his idea for the Spawn reboot. Bad idea # 1. He wants to shoot a low budget movie on purpose. That could work if we weren't talking about Spawn. His movie is going to look worse than the 1997 version. Bad idea # 2. He wants to center the story around Twitch. People want to see a Spawn movie, not a Twitch movie. If he really wants to tell Twitch's story, he should do it in a series in similar fashion to Gordon's story with Gotham. Bad idea # 3. Spawn as a background presence with little screen time. WTF! Someone please stop this train wreck.
I'd say give Jaimee a chance. He did a serious role in Django let's see if he can deliver on this. I love seeing actors do roles that they normally don't do. It makes things more interesting. Like when we first saw Jim Carrey do serious roles after doing so many comical type roles. It through me for a loop
Well at this point, given his pitch. they will wait to see how Brightburn fleshes out before they green light Spawn. Because it looks like Brightburn is everything "serious, r rated, and dark" that he's saying Spawn is supposed to be.
23 years for JAIME FOXX TO END UP BEING SPAWN!!?? thats so sad. Also, Sam and Twitch need a NETFLIX series. with spawn in the shadows. talking. a little bit of his cape, a little bit of his chain. his glowing eyes in darkness 👌👌👌
I hope he understands why Venom got such a bad critical score and why Spider-Verse got such a high one. Please make an actually decent film, not just a cash grab.
The Law Stan Lee commonly wrote to has fans about racial equality, religious freedom, and women’s rights for starters. Superman is an illegal alien AND a journalist. SJW?!?!?!?!?! Every superhero is a social justice warrior. That’s the fucking point.
Has he seen the Dredd remake? The movie was fucking awesome and Karl Urban was the perfect cast. I'd efinitely want more of movies like this. I'm old enough I can handle violence and gore and people that grew up with the comics are now old enough too to get something real and devoid of sugarcoating. My favourite movie of the new Star Wars ones was Rogue One, because it tried to be something different, tried to show that Empire v Rebellion isn't a stroll in the woods with cute little bears.
Joker is insanity yes, Joker is scary yes, but he's still for a universal audience, which means adults AND kids. He always has been. A hundred comics prove it. It's the Joker.
@Kiahran Adams Except the Joker is an evolving character, at the core he is a mobster with a gimmick who is reinvented by writers over and over. Alan Moore had him shoot Barbara Gordon in the spine then undress her and take photos (and possibly rape her as well) in a graphic novel which was then made canon because the graphic novel was popular. The comics had him brutally beat the second Robin with a crowbar and leave a timebomb (and the fans voted that Robin die). Frank Miller had him slice his therapist's throat with a coffee cup on live TV. The writers can use him as a posterboy for anarchy, nihilism, incurable mental health issues, serial killer, terrorist etc. but at the end of the day he is a Dick Tracy villain who gets socked in the jaw and shakes bars before the X-Ray Specs advert.
@Stix N' Stones I believe I've seen every film and cartoon Joker there is, even a few fan-made ones (like in Batman: Dead End) and I have obviously read The Killing Joke and The Dark Knight Returns. The Joker in the Adam West series didn't shoot people with a tommygun but he was not as inaccurate to the original Joker as you claim. The Joker being "safe for kids" is a question of tone of story, not of the character's "true nature". We might as well be arguing if Count Dracula is safe for kids or not.
@Stix N' Stones I'm not so sure, I think I prefer the "Clown Prince of Crime" who will easily leave dead bodies behind because they were unlucky enough to get in his way (take the Batman the Animated Series version for example) but he's not a serial killer who gets a thrill from sadistically terrifying and killing you like Stephen King's It or sets up bombs in a hospital to send a political message or to have his demands met. Partly because there is no way a Joker like that wouldn't have a ton of civilians with sniper rifles, carbombs, bricks and poison looking for him the second he escapes from Arkham a fourth time. There is nothing any person, real or fictional, "should". Also, the hero who would never ever kill but runs around saving the day anyway is a juvenile power fantasy that the writer will always give you a pleasant third way out of any situation. It's the juveniles in the audience who get pissed that in Man of Steel Clark Kent didn't invent and build a Kryptonite prison in 0.1 seconds, judo-throw Zod into it, salute the American flag then fly into orbit and wink at the camera.
Kiahran Adams : Trust you?? How about No because...I think I'll trust Bob Kane MORE. I think I'll trust Denny MORE. I think I'll trust NEAL frikin ADAMS more!!! Trust a total stranger on TH-cam or trust the gods of Batman...hmmm. Gee which one. Trust the CREATOR of the Joker or some guy on youtube? Hmmmm, I wonder. THEY'RE the ones who say the Joker is for kids, THEY say bats entire rogue gallery is for kids, THEY say that Batman comics are always supposed to be for kids. That whole list Matt mentions, me and all the other the kids read when we were 12 and we didn't have a problem, we understood he's the bad guy, it was fine. The Joker is for adults AND for kids because the Joker has ALWAYS been a universal character. He's literally universal NOT exclusive to age. I own "THE GREATEST JOKER STORIES OF ALL TIME" and IN Hardcover (stunning cover art by the legendary Sienchewitz) which spans 65 years of comics and ever one and each of those stories are actually kid rated son. A kid, if he was so interested, could totally read each one. That's a FACT. A published FACT in beautiful purple hardcover. Not an opinion; that thee GREATEST stories of the Joker collected are all receptive for kids. Hmmmm. Since the very first performance of The Joker by Caesar Romeo the Joker was for kids in there, fast forward nearly 30 years later to Jack Nicholson's stunning performance and STILL a PG movie for kids, just about every media in existence OF the Joker has all been for kids, from the very first Batman cartoon in history, to that Animated Series, to the following cartoon show called "the Batman", to Jack Nicholson, to Romeo Caesar, to the Super Friends, even to Jared Leto LOL. Son 99% of Joker IN the media has all been FOR kids; yet a third wopping fact for you. Your personal desires wanting the Joker to no longer be for kids is your own prerogative, that's your own business, but it is contrary to the facts. Just about every legend in the industry of comics and every Guru of the Batman will never deny Joker (lhet alone Batman) fom kids nor adults. It's an archetype that belongs primary to the youth, and it's not just franchise it's an epic icon.
Everything Mr. McFarlane is saying is music to my ears. Be innovative. I want a dark, gritty, non-humorous uncut Spawn. Please!!!!!!!! Make it happen!!! 🙏
I love Spawn, whatever platform it's on I know it will be good as long as Todd gets what he wants. If Todd can get this going and has some good pull with those reigns it will be badass, it could be a bloody horrifying experience if Todd gets his way and that's what we need :)
This guy needs to find a great director to make this movie...not make it himself..just coz he wrote spawn doesn't mean she should make the movie..he has 0 directing skills
Last time we got a comic book artist trying to be a filmmaker we got The Spirit 10 years ago by Frank Miller. I'm not saying not have him involved. Sure, have him involved but as a producer. As a consultant. But get a filmmaker with experience.
I remember after watching then spawn movie i bought my 1st 2 spawn comics and was hooked instantley they just blew me away so much i still remember so many bits and pieces out of these 1st 2 comics and even where in was at the time what i was going through , and this is like 23-25 years ago .... Superhero Comics are just so fucking timeless i can read take a 50yrs old spiderman comic and works for me still today .
each and every DC movie including suicide squad has made a billion fucking dollars. people don't have to like it if they show up to the theater every time to see something that is mediocre but that most people enjoy. 80% of people walked out of suicide squad and never saw it or thought about it again and didn't care. I mean, just look at the CW DC shows, they're like maybe 40% higher production value than the superhero porn parodies to me and not critically well received and yet people eat that garbage up.
"Where are you with the movie right now?" *Gives the same rambling, snake oil pitch he always gives.* This movie's never being made. No studio's gonna give millions of dollars to a man that's never directed a film before just cause he's going on and on about how much dough these comic book movies have made and how he's just *so, SO* dark and spooky. Then he goes on about how The Joker won't be scary, as if it means anything towards why Spawn isn't being made. These are persuasion tactics of a sociopath.
I mean his point stands because he's saying the studio will neuter what a true dark/real joker movie should be and that his spawn won't be neutered by the studio, which you're right, is why his movie won't get made, but his point is technically salient and not.... sociopathic, which is an extreme and dumb word to use.
@@toddgarver5397 I said his point was sensible and salient I didn't say I agree. I have hopes that the joaquin joker movie will be at least interesting, but I feel any sensible person would assume they probably won't go far enough content level wise.
The Spawn HBO animated show was a 10/10.
Spencer West yea
Yup!
It kills me to this day that it ended so soon!
Facts.
Absolutley!! 👌 ive got to watch that again
Spawn release date: 3035
Todd Garver 💀
Damn, I'll have to stay healthy
fuck you spawn comback
3036
Or 9999:)
He sounds like Saul Goodman.
Holy shit he does!!!
Hahaha Jesus didn't hear it till you said that. Good ear!
Lmao
Dude I was pulling my hair out trying to think of who Todd sounded like, and this was it. Thank you for saving me from going bald.
"let's get down to brass tax"
Todd basically pushed 'security' out of the way recently, when I asked for a photo. The guy that was slightly above event staff, was stretching his arms out so I couldn't get to him. Todd McFarlane then put his hand on the guy to get him to move and said "Move out of the way, so he can get a picture"... then he came up to me and said "Let's walk" and he smiled for a "selfie", and he saw the picture pop up and he said "Man, you gotta clean that lenses". I think he was offering for a "cleaner" photo, but at that point, I didn't even care about the photo, seeing him tell Security to f*ck off so I could get a selfie with him made my day!
I saw Spawn in the theater back in the 90's, the one with Michael Jai White. I liked it at the time because all we had was Batman, Blade and Spawn for good comic book movies (until X-Men in 2000). I think SPAWN deserves a REALLY GOOD film. One of the few times I will say a "Reboot" would be good.
I want to see similar gore to ninja assassin In spawn
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Jamie Foxx is the first mistake already. Decent actor but not even close to Al Simmons. At least Michael Jai White had size to match
he can bulk up dipshit
he can bulk up dipshit #2
ibee thatoneguy he could bulk up and it really doesn’t matter as long as he gives a good performance as spawn.
@@eliasyarnall8099 yea he can bulk up but in my personal opinion I don't see him as a good Al Simmons. I could be wrong
@caveman Versace That's a lie
I wasn't too excited about this Spawn movie with "barely any Spawn in it" but you know what, Todd convinced me. One of my greatest regrets regarding BvS's reception was that WB and the other studios would use it as an excuse to NOT attempt another movie with that tone...when most of the audience knows the problems existed within the script. The fact that McFarlane knows the difference between the studios' idea of "mature & gritty" versus the actual meaning of those words gives me hope Spawn could be pretty great if the script is solid.
What the problem is is that Disney and wbs. Wants to have merchandises all the fucking time and they want their movies to only be PG 13 or lower because they want kids to see it.
Hollywood would never fucking change until one day someone will grab them by the balls and make them fucking open their fucking eyes for once.
@@JordanWheeler1999 the problem in this case is that hollywood studios need to have a defined genre for the movie so they can feel safe investing in it knowing that its targeted to its according audience, why can you have horror movies with gore and insane characters? because its tagged as HORROR right from the start, you can define it with one word so regular people know what theyre getting into, but when you go to them saying "its a serious suspense, slow paced gritty drama, horror, action...oh and its based on a comic book character" they go "comic book character?, thats hot right now, lose all the other shit about being serious" for the studios comic book movies can only be mixed with comedy, and im sorry if you liked GotG but that movie only made all the other studios say "make it like GotG, jokes muthafucka, i want jokes!!". i liked BvS for what it TRIED to do, but it failed so, its gonna be very rare to see another studio attempting to do that shit again.
@@MegaSilverBlood gotg never said that they want every comicbook movie to be like them the studios choice to use the gotg formula.
Comicbook movies stages is mostly comedy because of the mcu.
They don't need to compete to each other they need to make their damn own films
@@MegaSilverBlood
When you see dark and gritty look at saw and final destination.
Those are the real deal. When people compare it to dc it's like putting a salt in a wound.
If dc wants to make dark and gritty movies they should but they shouldn't be holding some bodies hand like a fucking kid. They should man the fuck up and never hold back their imagination
@@JordanWheeler1999 my point is studios follow the money, of course gunn and company werent trying to set a trend, but it did, yes the mcu had that formula before gotg but in that one they doubled down on the jokes, and then the next mcu movies tried to do the same, have jokes where you dont really need them, and so all the other studios copied that
He's a great guest.
Final Flame Productions yes adults need real comic movies. MCU dc is for kids
@@babyverse9824 There's a lot of adult comic movies. Watchmen, Blade, Logan, The Punisher, V for Vendetta, Wanted, Sin City, The Crow etc. The Dark Knight trilogy isn't really made for kids imo either.
You just need to watch more movies
The Dark Knight Returns you stupid. You missing dark man, man of steel, Hancock, un breakable split, You dumb as hell. All super hero movies should be rated r. It’s not right to sell violence to kids. It creates idiots like you. Who think tho know everything. But get surprised when they actually get hurt
@@babyverse9824 You have no room to call anyone stupid.
Zero9656 violence shouldn’t be sold to kids sir
"Build it, find out where the human beings are and get in their way."
Jamie Fox is going to play Jamie Fox because that is all he has ever done. Clearly he is the wrong choice.
Yea i aint feelin jamie for this
You must have never seen Ray
@Cthulu Its not like the character of django was distinguishable from all his other roles. He acts like jaime fox he is not a character actor.
Just like Will Smith who plays himself in every goddamn fucking role he has.
Michael Jai White needed to come back for the remake but unfortunately he's not 🤷🏾♂️
I want to hear Kevin Smith and Todd McFarlane talk for like 10 hours straight.
Why? So Kevin can walk out in the first ten minutes.
@@speeknoevil1803 he's not as fat now so he may be able to walk out faster...7 minutes maybe...
Kevin Smith: "What? I can't take my kids to see that! My wife won't like it either so it sucks!"
I want to like your comment but it's at 111.
I dunno, after this clip i think im good on listening to mcfarlane for a while
Iris Elba should be Spawn
For sure. Especially if he's going for the dark drama...Jamie Foxx doesn't fit that profile as well
@@gummibear696 foxx last few movies i can see it, maybe not commit to him 100% but i think he can get it done ...hes at a age where he wants to do more grissled movied
Most of us want Elba as John Stewart, Green Lantern.
@oldudereeno he actually can act... you must have never seen hbo the wire.. a big reason he shouldnt is because he shouldnt be tied down to a franchise that might produce a sub par bad script.
Agreed..but Jamie Foxx? I dont care if there good friends. I dont think it will work. Jamie foxx just bitter they didn't cast him in black panther. So he grasping to anything..
Yes! We need more R rated stuff
Jamie Fox was really poor casting. Needed some one to enter fresh with no baggage that Fox brings
Ernie P get Anthony macky instead...not the guy who could only act in auto tune ok spiderman
I think McFarlane is actually scarier that the Joker and Spawn? I almost pissed myself....
My favorite comic book artist.
Mine too! Todd is a legend!
@@marcushamner5994 Alex Ross is my all time fav but Todd is a close second
@@mazeful6345 I would say that Todd is a close third, right behind Jim Lee, though I know that a lot of people think Lee is overrated, but for me he is up there with Alex Ross
@@tupac-man8120 Jim Lee is fucking amazing. my wife just gave my a piece of his art along with a Greg Capullo piece for Christmas.
@@mazeful6345 That is awesome :)
I say just finish the animated series, one of the best things ive ever watched in my entire life....i would happily donate as well
Legend. I'd love to see a big budget Spawn film.
He's right. I love Marvel movies...LOVE em. But I also want to see this dark scary mature version of Spawn.
C3 Studios you ever read spawn comics? Lol
@@crxvtec0069that was in the early 90 mid 2000 spawn goes very heavily to girtty mature supernatural route
Part of me definitely thinks that the idea behind the new Spawn movie is really cool (where the focus is on the two detectives investigating the murders of the bad guys that Spawn has committed and Spawn is more of a shadowy figured "boogie man" that you probably won't see a whole lot of because it's through the perspective of the two dics. And in the end they probably figure out that there's some big evil that Spawn is fighting so they realize he's the "good guy") but at the same time I really want a full on Spawn movie with Spawn being the main character. Something that starts over completely, telling his origin story, and putting him up against the first big bad of hopefully many. Basically a cross between the original live action movie (with better effects obviously) and the awesome cartoon version. A serious tone like the cartoon that follows the story of the comic but having Spawn pitted against a better character from the comic. Their is so much there that there's no reason there couldn't be at least a trilogy of movies that are each at least 2 1/2 hours long!
I’d love a Spawn trilogy! Dark and insane and Spawn as the main villain!
Like season 1 of True Detective.
Personally I've come to imagine it kind of like Predator 2, Jaws, Alien and Hellraiser. Who's the main character? The human cop, the human space-trucker or the human girl who might be dead by the end of the movie.
The difference is that Spawn isn't that kind of movie monster but is a figure with fragmented memories and conflicting instincts trying to figure out its abilities, its limits and why it haunts this part of New York.
@chango vato I can see the scary End of Watch. But I wouldn't say I gave any ideas, just comparisons.
Ideas would be that if this Spawn is mute he has the ability from the animated series to interact with your mind by simply touching you and that his costume has the shapeshifting ability from the 90s movie so he can hide almost anywhere and his cape "bleeds" over into the distinctive red only once he's angry and wants to be seen.
Done well (in the horror movie sense) that could be terrific.
Take my money now
Come on Marvel can we seriously get another “BLADE” Movie finally 🙏🏾 but only if it’s Wesley Snipes as Blade 👌🏾
ThatGuyChico LOOOOOOL are u kidding bro? Never. It’s fuckin Disney that owns marvel they would never release such “violent” character on the big screen same goes for ghost rider, daredevil and punisher. But the mass audience who know nothing about marvel think they’re all so good when in reality good majority are either trash or average which is no excuse for a superhero movie. (With the exception of a small few that are good). Every hero is a damn comedian hell even the villains are comedians (ultron). That being said I’d love see a blade movie but it will never happen as long as its under Disney which will remain forever. And Rip daredevil.
@@Guts1022 right but who would of taught we would ever get A "Deadpool" Movie even tho 21st Century Fox owns the rights. After Avengers 4 hopefully in Phase 5 we will see "Galactus" or Spiderman Villians Kraven the Hunter or Morbius. I would love to see a BLADE vs Morbius movie 🙏
ThatGuyChico i agree. I hope we see awesome shit and that I’m wrong XD
@@Guts1022 just think i didn't think we would ever get a Black Panther movie and we did. So maybe Marvel/Disney are starting to listen to us fans 🤔
@@dirgramsey6132 i never said i wanted Jamie Foxx as Spawn. But BLADE fits Wesley Snipes. Most of the people playing superheros now are in their Early to Late 40s. As long as they are committed to the role thats all that matters.
this isn't getting made, been "in the making" for 20 years. its like talking about that Crow remake that's been happening since forever
travis smith yea he’s taking forever. Eventually people will steal his ideas
Huge fan of Spawn, in the beginning he wanted it to be low budget, now he talks about how Hollywood doesn't get it which means he's trying to get it funded like iron man. 😔 today i untrend this mans idea, not getting anywhere.
@@hugoq4335 i agree. He actually turned me off with this rant
Difference is no one is asking for a crow remake, people have been asking for spawn.
@DamageIncM except that the spawn that people thought was cool ain't what McFarlane wants to do. he wants to make like a detective/ghost story. that ain't spawn and it ain't cool. as far as the marvel slate, until they drop the ball I've got faith in their films
Not just a great artist and visionary but a brilliant business man. Todd had such a huge part in the my life as a comic book lover and artist. Thank you
I've been following Todd since the early 90s. He's talented but a huge egomaniac. Spawn has been in development hell for 20 years. Not for funding but because he is too stubborn to budge on every aspect.
@SPACE MONKEY1102 "fucked"? It's getting close to happening, dude. Has Renner and Foxx attached~
@@RevRyukin7 it ain't happening bro it was in development in blum House but they kicked it out... If blumhouse throws it... a production house which tries new things not giving any shit but throws a spawn movie soo yaa Todd is kind of a dick to his own creation never seeing the light
Hes an interesting guy
Shut up conor u fool
Conor Brosnahan if he thinks Venom was decent then I’m scared for his movie. I like Spawn but I want an actual film not just a cash grab.
I love that Todd's take on joker is basically what happened. To a slightly lesser extent
The joker movie was not scary and I'm pretty sure it wasn't r rated either so yeah he was pretty right.
@@bill9068 The movie was Rated R proven by a 2 second google look up. What is scary? Is jump scares scary or is it the possibility your seemingly nice neighbor is a murderous psychopath. Yeah its not a surreal acid trip showing you intense imagery of brutal actions or gore-filled spectacle but it is showing you a horrific world that would be scary to live in. Where the actions of 1 insane man driven to disparity can evoke a class war big enough to shake the foundations of a massive city like Gotham. I didn't say Todd was right on the money but to say that Joker wasn't scary is just wrong. for gods sake the man breaks into his neighbors home because of his delusions thinking everything would be fine, how is that not terrifying? how does it not make you look at your nice neighbor differently? or after murdering 3 business men on a subway he slowly dances like a ballerina. That's creepy. That's a glimpse of what I think Todd's intentions would be like.
But I suppose too Todd would make a movie for comic book adults and not regular joe shmoe adults like Philips did.
@@lazychild3 Gotham's joker was more scarier and that's just facts🤷♂️🤣🤣
@@bill9068 Both can be scary? I dont see the issue? How did we get to Gotham? What does any of this matter to a 2 year old comment? Find out next time, Same BatChannel Same Bat TIme
@@lazychild3 your name says it all my friend. I mentioned gotham because their version of the joker is actaully scary🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Tod was spot-on in his comments about a more dark, sinister, tortured Joker movie adaption. This posting, in 2018, was a year prior to the Joaquin Phoenix Joker character was unleashed in theaters. Heath Ledger's Joker in Dark Knight in 2008 was the pivot point from the character's earlier portrayals.
Spawn on Netflix !!
Spawn on SJWflix no dude.
Yeah, todd mcfarlane said that he selling the movie on netflix once its a sucess
Netflix will ruin Spawn.
@@ad_1273 Tranny Spawn, sounds like a "great" idea :))
@@ad_1273 Netflix just needs to stream it, that's it. They should have no say in the making off. But I definitely think it should be on Netflix and released in theaters
I love Spawn he's always been my favorite since i was a kid.
Heath Ledger 's joker was pg13 still more scary than pennywise
blaise russo definitely more scarier than the new pennywise not the old one
I love The Joker he did, but scary? not really, it came across more as a psychology student with make up.
How can you not want his vision on film after hearing that? Omg it sounds amazing.
I'll tell you what' going on with Todd McFarlane's Spawn remake. Nothing.
lol Roxy looks so confused when Todd was talking directly to her. I thought that baffled thing was an act. Aww Bless her.
She looks like she has resting bitch face.
@@gregs2965 She looks like she trying to solve some difficult math problem in her head.
Probably because she disagrees with everything he says and is trying not to argue with him
😂
@Van H. aaaaannd the main host
4 years later... nothing's been done.
No actually finally its been done its being filmed as we speak the trailer will come out end of this year
Jamie fox is a bad idea and not revolving the story around Spawn is stupid idea.
Aaron a story based on a cop whos hunting down spawn seems different but im all in
The idea is to never have spawn take his mask off and the cop will be focus point of seeing what's going on in the alleys
Todd: “every super hero story is making a ton of money!
DC: “hold my beer.”
"Everything is serious. Nothing is funny in this movie." I'm pretty sure DC has been filling in that corner for a few years now.
they have, but with the wrong characters
with shite scripts
Spawn always takes it a step further. It is like Punisher and Ghostrider fused vs a super powered Joker who is a child serial killer.
Spawn done right is a horror movie and a slasher murder movie combined.
I was thinking the same thing.
Prime92 Prefer dark & serious movies
What Hollywood needs to understand is not everything needs to be marketed and made for children. Then you can make a real real Spawn movie.
I've always loved Todd McFarland and I always will. Amazing amazing person.
I've always wondered what will happen if Todd McFarlane releases a comic book of Joker or Warhammer 40k...
he actually has a point, imagine a movie with the main character just completely insane, kills people, all horrified of the things he has done, more of a silence of lamb feel like what they said then after all of towards the end of it all. Scene his in a dark room nothing but a mirror and a lamp, complete silence then we here a sadistic laugh coming closer and closer as it approaches boom "lights off" total silence and darkness "lights on" him sitting in front of the mirror with the joker make up on his face. turns out he is The Joker.
but unfortunately no studio is brave enough to do it. the closest we had was the post credit scene in Split revealing David Dunn in a Diner.
So punisher or deadpool maybe cable? Deathstroke uh all kinds of other ones lol Hellboy .... Lot's spawn is neat but a prequel movie star wars story style is odd but they are going to try it
Todd McFarlane is a proper visionary for sure, I remember the first issue of Venom. I think it is worth taking a chance on this movie.
Jamie fox really, come on. Are you serious. I like him but not as spawn. SERIOUSLY
I would rehire Michael jai white again he was perfect for the role In the 97 version.
Chancellor Mountain DEW IT I would agree with that, definitely
I use to not think Jamie could pull it off BUT dude is an amazing actor and he's diverse. He's one of those people you watch and he really takes on the character (ie Django, Ray Charles, soloist, robin hood etc)
It´s 2019 and the Joker movie was already released. Oh you were right Todd, you were right.
looking back at this after seeing joker was a success i can totally envision a different joker but just as good and imagine how spawn can be
Exactly if they were to give joker an r rating and actual scariness people would love it. The best thing that came from the joker movie was the memes.
Sin city worked without any comedy and a unique movie. Give spawn a chance!!!!
Love the original, love the comics!!! Let’s do this!!!
Or crowd fund it?
JJ comedy the sequel didn’t though.
I've never seen the original *Spawn* at all. I don't think it has been on TV and if it did, that's a very rare showing. But I'm psyched for this one. Todd was one of my favourite artists for Marvel in the late 80s early 90s.
When i listen to Todd talking about his own creation, i cannot stop imagining a guy creating an assault rifle out of some rocks and dry leafs, then charging into battle, using it as a bludgeon.
Todd McFarlane is a master business man, always creating, always thinking 10 steps ahead, that's why I admire him, not as a comic book artist, but how he teaches people, "it's fun to create, it's even better when you create and people love it"
He probably loved Joaquin Phoenix’s joker
YES! YES! YES! This is what I have been trying to explain to people that have been saying they want the same style spawn movie from 1997! I liked the 1997 movie too. But christ, Todd's vision is what I have always wanted from a spawn movie! It's what made the series so damn good! When spawn hit the big screen, everyone hated it and frankly most people still do. It's actually amazing to me people are debating this.
I love Jamie but I don’t know about him playing spawn.
There's only one director I can think off when it comes to appropriate Spawn vision. David Fincher. Spawn is in the same sense as Seven with the dark and just bold movie to make. But he can go even further beyond.
That sounds great. I love jokes. I love funny movies. But not every superhero movie needs jokes.
Depends on one humor.
@@boulderthefat154 Lets be honest all the humour been same in most of the superheroes movies now
‘Build it, find out where the human beings are and then get in their way’
Beautiful advice ... agreed.
Really looking forward to this new version of Spawn. I think Brightburn is the horror tone that I think Spawn is aiming for. If Brightburn is a success it will help sell the hero horror concept. Imagine a hero that stalks antagonists like Jason in Halloween?
It's probably never coming out. The problem has never been selling the concept of Spawn as a movie. The problem is that Todd insists that HE be the director of the film. As long as he continues to make that part of the deal, nobody with any sense is going to finance it. The only reason the story picked up some steam a while back was because Todd announced that his own company would be financing the movie. Looks like he's changed his mind (smart move), since they're now back to looking for financing.
@@WyldstaarStudios Yea man it's so frustrating the way this movie keeps getting dragged out. Todd just needs to team up with a horror director he trusts. As long as he stay's the producer of the film, he can have final cut privileges.
@@eon001I would suggest Andy Muschietti or Guillermo Del Toro to direct a Spawn reboot
I just realize mcfarlane sounds like he just got out of his dentist appointment.
Sounds like absolutely nothing is happening with this Spawn movie and Todd is still trying to sell the idea to anyone that will listen or a studio that will bite like he's been doing the last 20 years. Almost 2 years ago he said things were pretty much done and production was starting early 2018 and still nothing has happened. Things sound pretty shaky because he has one vision and doesn't want to budge on it. A studio is not going to give this guy millions of dollars and let him direct whatever the hell he wants because he says any movie that superhero related will work and make money. WRONG! Letting him direct and write this movie is a huge mistake and I've said that from the start. Anyway, I still don't believe at all this movie is even going to happen within the next 5 year or at all because Todd won't let it. He's his own worst enemy.
MAGNUM he wants spawn to be a horror film where you barely get to see him. He’s like some kind of ghost. And 2 detectives are investigating the murders he commits. Something like that.
@@raularango3539 Yeah, and I bet a studio doesn't want to make that movie.
What are u talking about? Did u even watch the video he clearly said that if it doesn’t work it doesn’t work. He wants to take a leap and try his way what is wrong with that? That’s the LEAST we can do for the CREATOR of spawn. He knows EXACTLY what he is doing. “Letting him direct and write this movie is a huge mistake” LMAO what the fuck
this isn’t m night shamaluan and avatar the last air bender buddy who knows nothing of what he’s directing about.
Ya but he has two established actors now.
@@Guts1022 if he doesn't have faith in it from the beginning why should a studio? Yaa studios movies fail all the time bt they take a project hoping I might work... But as Todd say it may or may not is not a good way to start a movie... Dude millions of dollars are wasting for a trying purpose.. This guys takes examples of venom logan deadpool and joker... But these are very highly popular characters spawn is not that famous now soo no one cares
I love Spawn. One of the best comic book plots ever and is willing to talk about Heaven and Hell. I'm still upset I don't know what happened to my #1 Curse of the Spawn comic that I bought when I was a kid in that late 90s. I'm hoping my future self time traveled and took it to sell or barter for some great cause 😅
As "Meh" as the old spawn was, I would pay all kinds of money to see a serious, dark, hardcore spawn!
I don't care what anyone says about the ,97 Spawn movie 🍿, I liked it, thought it was great, don,t know what the problem is.
This guy is willing to go there and I'm glad but as far as I'm concerned Michael Jai White is Spawn and it wasn't his fault the movie didn't go because he's always been underrated
I think he should try his hand at a smaller scale project first. Adi Shankar made some cool movies about different fictional characters. I'm really into the idea of putting a comic book hero in the background and playing with the POV. I always thought the best Batman movie would have ordinary criminals as the main characters and Batman as the antagonist. There's so much you can do with the idea because he's usually two steps ahead of his enemies. It would be an interesting change for viewers to see Batman as the ordinary thugs do. I thought the Gotham show was going to do something like this when it was first announced.
3 reasons Mcfarlane's version is going to suck. I see why Mcfarlane has been having a hard time getting the studios to buy into his idea for the Spawn reboot. Bad idea # 1. He wants to shoot a low budget movie on purpose. That could work if we weren't talking about Spawn. His movie is going to look worse than the 1997 version. Bad idea # 2. He wants to center the story around Twitch. People want to see a Spawn movie, not a Twitch movie. If he really wants to tell Twitch's story, he should do it in a series in similar fashion to Gordon's story with Gotham. Bad idea # 3. Spawn as a background presence with little screen time. WTF! Someone please stop this train wreck.
Those Joker predictions aged well.
Michael B Jordan will end up playing Spawn in 2025
Get Tim Burton to direct and Michael Jai White as Al Simmons!
Saw this for the first time today.
His comments about Joker and WB certainly didn’t age well 😂.
Juan Cisneros 😂🤣
Netflix should make a Sam and Twitch original series. Great comic book series.
Jamie Fox as Spawn wasn't a good idea in my opinion. He's a talented actor but he is NOT Spawn
I love Todd's vision, dark and done well needs to be made. Just do an R rated movie to satisfy the adult crowd, it will make a billion easily
Brightburn is gonna show people that superhero horror works. Spawn 2020.
Brightburn was great!!
Eldar Peri lmao that movie was garbage.
I'd say give Jaimee a chance. He did a serious role in Django let's see if he can deliver on this. I love seeing actors do roles that they normally don't do. It makes things more interesting. Like when we first saw Jim Carrey do serious roles after doing so many comical type roles. It through me for a loop
I’m sold. Shut up & take my money! I can’t wait to see the new Spawn.
You mean a movie without spawn
Well at this point, given his pitch. they will wait to see how Brightburn fleshes out before they green light Spawn. Because it looks like Brightburn is everything "serious, r rated, and dark" that he's saying Spawn is supposed to be.
The made a scary joker movie and it grossed over a billion dollars.
Joker wasn't scary. Dark but not scary.
This is so good!
Is it a podcast?
Jamie Fox, and i love a lot of his movies, will ruin Spawn. November 27th, 2019. It will Flop.
I think it will flop too
Jamie Fox AND Jeremy Renner. The two actors I would NEVER pick for a cult classic reboot.
Blumhouse would be a perfect partnership for Todd's Spawn vision.
23 years for JAIME FOXX TO END UP BEING SPAWN!!?? thats so sad.
Also, Sam and Twitch need a NETFLIX series. with spawn in the shadows. talking. a little bit of his cape, a little bit of his chain. his glowing eyes in darkness 👌👌👌
so....whats the current progress of the movie
I hope he understands why Venom got such a bad critical score and why Spider-Verse got such a high one. Please make an actually decent film, not just a cash grab.
wasn't like 30 mins cut from it
“If I don’t like something it’s not because tastes can differ it’s because of SJW’s influencing the media” - edgy boi
The Law lol wtf is wrong with you???
The Law Stan Lee commonly wrote to has fans about racial equality, religious freedom, and women’s rights for starters. Superman is an illegal alien AND a journalist. SJW?!?!?!?!?! Every superhero is a social justice warrior. That’s the fucking point.
“People who I don’t like are cultural Marxists and not just people who disagree with me” edgy boi
SO looking forward to Spawn in Mortal Kombat 11 in January.
H.R.Giger was a mind with terrorific toughts, an trought them we got introduce to the alien franchise
Has he seen the Dredd remake? The movie was fucking awesome and Karl Urban was the perfect cast. I'd efinitely want more of movies like this. I'm old enough I can handle violence and gore and people that grew up with the comics are now old enough too to get something real and devoid of sugarcoating.
My favourite movie of the new Star Wars ones was Rogue One, because it tried to be something different, tried to show that Empire v Rebellion isn't a stroll in the woods with cute little bears.
Joker is insanity yes, Joker is scary yes, but he's still for a universal audience, which means adults AND kids. He always has been. A hundred comics prove it.
It's the Joker.
@Kiahran Adams Except the Joker is an evolving character, at the core he is a mobster with a gimmick who is reinvented by writers over and over.
Alan Moore had him shoot Barbara Gordon in the spine then undress her and take photos (and possibly rape her as well) in a graphic novel which was then made canon because the graphic novel was popular. The comics had him brutally beat the second Robin with a crowbar and leave a timebomb (and the fans voted that Robin die). Frank Miller had him slice his therapist's throat with a coffee cup on live TV.
The writers can use him as a posterboy for anarchy, nihilism, incurable mental health issues, serial killer, terrorist etc. but at the end of the day he is a Dick Tracy villain who gets socked in the jaw and shakes bars before the X-Ray Specs advert.
Mats Mårtensson : Exactly lol, well put.
@Stix N' Stones I believe I've seen every film and cartoon Joker there is, even a few fan-made ones (like in Batman: Dead End) and I have obviously read The Killing Joke and The Dark Knight Returns. The Joker in the Adam West series didn't shoot people with a tommygun but he was not as inaccurate to the original Joker as you claim. The Joker being "safe for kids" is a question of tone of story, not of the character's "true nature".
We might as well be arguing if Count Dracula is safe for kids or not.
@Stix N' Stones I'm not so sure, I think I prefer the "Clown Prince of Crime" who will easily leave dead bodies behind because they were unlucky enough to get in his way (take the Batman the Animated Series version for example) but he's not a serial killer who gets a thrill from sadistically terrifying and killing you like Stephen King's It or sets up bombs in a hospital to send a political message or to have his demands met.
Partly because there is no way a Joker like that wouldn't have a ton of civilians with sniper rifles, carbombs, bricks and poison looking for him the second he escapes from Arkham a fourth time.
There is nothing any person, real or fictional, "should". Also, the hero who would never ever kill but runs around saving the day anyway is a juvenile power fantasy that the writer will always give you a pleasant third way out of any situation. It's the juveniles in the audience who get pissed that in Man of Steel Clark Kent didn't invent and build a Kryptonite prison in 0.1 seconds, judo-throw Zod into it, salute the American flag then fly into orbit and wink at the camera.
Kiahran Adams :
Trust you?? How about No because...I think I'll trust Bob Kane MORE. I think I'll trust Denny MORE. I think I'll trust NEAL frikin ADAMS more!!! Trust a total stranger on TH-cam or trust the gods of Batman...hmmm. Gee which one. Trust the CREATOR of the Joker or some guy on youtube? Hmmmm, I wonder. THEY'RE the ones who say the Joker is for kids, THEY say bats entire rogue gallery is for kids, THEY say that Batman comics are always supposed to be for kids.
That whole list Matt mentions, me and all the other the kids read when we were 12 and we didn't have a problem, we understood he's the bad guy, it was fine. The Joker is for adults AND for kids because the Joker has ALWAYS been a universal character. He's literally universal NOT exclusive to age.
I own "THE GREATEST JOKER STORIES OF ALL TIME" and IN Hardcover (stunning cover art by the legendary Sienchewitz) which spans 65 years of comics and ever one and each of those stories are actually kid rated son. A kid, if he was so interested, could totally read each one. That's a FACT. A published FACT in beautiful purple hardcover.
Not an opinion; that thee GREATEST stories of the Joker collected are all receptive for kids. Hmmmm.
Since the very first performance of The Joker by Caesar Romeo the Joker was for kids in there, fast forward nearly 30 years later to Jack Nicholson's stunning performance and STILL a PG movie for kids, just about every media in existence OF the Joker has all been for kids, from the very first Batman cartoon in history, to that Animated Series, to the following cartoon show called "the Batman", to Jack Nicholson, to Romeo Caesar, to the Super Friends, even to Jared Leto LOL. Son 99% of Joker IN the media has all been FOR kids; yet a third wopping fact for you.
Your personal desires wanting the Joker to no longer be for kids is your own prerogative, that's your own business, but it is contrary to the facts. Just about every legend in the industry of comics and every Guru of the Batman will never deny Joker (lhet alone Batman) fom kids nor adults. It's an archetype that belongs primary to the youth, and it's not just franchise it's an epic icon.
Everything Mr. McFarlane is saying is music to my ears. Be innovative. I want a dark, gritty, non-humorous uncut Spawn. Please!!!!!!!! Make it happen!!! 🙏
This guy’s pretty cool
I love Spawn, whatever platform it's on I know it will be good as long as Todd gets what he wants. If Todd can get this going and has some good pull with those reigns it will be badass, it could be a bloody horrifying experience if Todd gets his way and that's what we need :)
This guy needs to find a great director to make this movie...not make it himself..just coz he wrote spawn doesn't mean she should make the movie..he has 0 directing skills
Aaron Jones that’s the thing if it sucks and doesn’t make money the first time around we’re definitely not getting a sequel!
That's true, if he found a really good director I'm sure he'd have an easier time getting finances for the film
He used to direct music videos so not 0 experience
He wrote the script, he can do what he wants with it. Its his property.
Last time we got a comic book artist trying to be a filmmaker we got The Spirit 10 years ago by Frank Miller. I'm not saying not have him involved. Sure, have him involved but as a producer. As a consultant. But get a filmmaker with experience.
I'm so hungry for a dark, horror Spawn movie. I want more than just a taste.
Jamie Foxx? No, please no. Michael Jai White is who is needed for the role.
His idea of the Spawn movie and the Joker movie need to be made. If his vision was made I’d be in the theatre IN A HEART BEAT!
If in was a billionaire I would put money up for Spawn and a Mortal Kombat movie.
I remember after watching then spawn movie i bought my 1st 2 spawn comics and was hooked instantley they just blew me away so much i still remember so many bits and pieces out of these 1st 2 comics and even where in was at the time what i was going through , and this is like 23-25 years ago .... Superhero Comics are just so fucking timeless i can read take a 50yrs old spiderman comic and works for me still today .
Well technically not all super hero films are working. Look at DC.
DC spouse to be dark wtf mansssss😤😤😤😤
@@imperiumgrim4717 truly dc isn't dark andgritty.
If people wants to see dark and gritty watch saw or final destination
@Kiquan Ringo people like you needs to go kts.
Just don't pay attention to comments that you don't like you fucking jackass.
each and every DC movie including suicide squad has made a billion fucking dollars. people don't have to like it if they show up to the theater every time to see something that is mediocre but that most people enjoy. 80% of people walked out of suicide squad and never saw it or thought about it again and didn't care. I mean, just look at the CW DC shows, they're like maybe 40% higher production value than the superhero porn parodies to me and not critically well received and yet people eat that garbage up.
Close your eyes and listen. Whose talking, Todd McFarlane or slippin Jimmy McGill.
This guy is way to married to his character
It's his baby I'd be like that too everyone is
I'd love a Spawn movie in line with the 90s animated series.
So agreed!
"Where are you with the movie right now?"
*Gives the same rambling, snake oil pitch he always gives.*
This movie's never being made. No studio's gonna give millions of dollars to a man that's never directed a film before just cause he's going on and on about how much dough these comic book movies have made and how he's just *so, SO* dark and spooky. Then he goes on about how The Joker won't be scary, as if it means anything towards why Spawn isn't being made. These are persuasion tactics of a sociopath.
I mean his point stands because he's saying the studio will neuter what a true dark/real joker movie should be and that his spawn won't be neutered by the studio, which you're right, is why his movie won't get made, but his point is technically salient and not.... sociopathic, which is an extreme and dumb word to use.
@@librarygary1618 let's see how the new Joker movie does before we agree with McFarlane who has been talking about A Spawn remake for 20 years
@@toddgarver5397 I said his point was sensible and salient I didn't say I agree. I have hopes that the joaquin joker movie will be at least interesting, but I feel any sensible person would assume they probably won't go far enough content level wise.
His point was about the studios playing it safe with the superhero formula but he doesn't want to do that formula.
Wood Harris, trevante rhodes or mahershala ali, all good options. I love jamie fox but not a good choice.