Music Teacher Reacts: WINTERSUN - Sons of Winter and Stars
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Music Teacher Reacts: WINTERSUN - Sons of Winter and Stars
My first time hearing Wintersun... any guesses what I thought?
What a killer track and superb musicians!
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the singer (Jari) does everything in the band, writing and orchestrating, he even mixes and produces everything as well. According to him, some portions of the time album have literally hundreds of different tracks going on at once and this is only a 60% compromise of the full thing, because his computer just wasn't good enough to handle anything more. He also lost part of his lungs to tuberculosis while in the army and he's still singing like this.
Also, they are doing crowdfunding for their own studio and production of the 2nd half of the Time album so it doesnt have to be a compromise, and as part of that, they released an album with also isolated tracks from the Time songs. You can find these things on youtube. Definitely check out the isolated orchestrations of this song and "Time", they're basically already masterful classical compositions by themselves, without the band. I found these guys maybe 5 years ago and I'm still learning from them and finding new things, godlike musicianship.
Theres a interview where Jari says that this track (Sons of Winter and Stars) has 1682 different tracks on it, so I can understand his computer running quite hard :D
@@waiskil yea but not at the same time. Tracks in these softwares don't consume processing power if there's nothing in them. I think I remember him saying that at most, 400sth tracks are playing at once
Jari said in an interview that he didn`t think he could do the drums well enough so he sent the song to Kai who then added the drums. Everything else he did himself.
It hurts me that Wintersun needs to crowdfund for a studio/production
what about Ensiferum ? :) do u like it?
Jari Mäenpää, the main singer and guitarist wrote the song.
He also lost a part of his lungs because of tuberculosis.
No matter how many times you listen the song you'll always pick up something new next time.
while he did lose part of his lung, this was many years ago and isn't going to be effecting his future work in terms of sound, although it could effect his overall music and health down the road, but hopefully that won't have to be worried about for 25 years or more..
@@zachbarsher9391 yeah but it's still badass to say he's missing half a lung, it's got to be a great pick up line, lol.
@@zachbarsher9391 but that's only 1½ album from now :(
You: The band name is familiar
Me: Probably because Kai the drummer is with nightwish and his Wintersun relation may have come up in stuff you read about Nightwish ...
You: That drummer is insane
Me, yelling at the screen every time you make any comment about "the drummer": It is Kai!!!
I love how Kai makes anything he drums look supereasy with his juggling...
On a side note, so if I keep commenting it you will react to BABYMETAL - Rondo of Nightmare Live @ Budokan Black Night
Kai's drumming is great, if you want to nerd out on it, specifically for this song, here's a link-
th-cam.com/video/p_CNsvVHnDY/w-d-xo.html
Kai was known for wintersun before nightwish
Hahto for president!
@Mantvydas Nenartavičius Blame Jari. Damn perfectionist 😅
I really hope you could react two other songs from the same live rehearsals, Time and Land of Snow and Sorrow. Please and peace 🙏🏼😎✌🏼
Yes!
You're the only music teacher/ musician that praised and talked about that modulations, everyone live that part as if "ok, nothing is happening" when it's a terrific complex part to write and execute, respect for you
Thanks for the kind words!
Lol. You gonna hear A LOT about the drummer. 😆😁🤯
They are amazing.
The singer Jari does everything.
He made de music and lyrics and he records everything but the drums.
The guy's a genius.
The drumer is Kay, that now's with Nightwish, i think you already saw him in some Nightwish vídeos.
I suggest the songs "Time" from the same rehearsal and "Loneliness" the official lyric vídeo, that one's my favorite, very emotional and melodic, a masterpiece.
Love your videos.
Cheers from Portugal.
I would add to that list Land of snow and sorrow
Also add Beyond the Dark Sun and Winter Madness. Still remember having trouble picking my jaw off the floor after buying their first album
Another one from this band is Time, quite the masterpiece!
At the live shows, those 150 person choir is the audience 😇
Martijn van zuilen facts
jajaja sad but true xDDD
The drummer is Kai Hahto. He now drums for.... Wait for it.......
Nightwish!!
Btw. First comment on your vids but love them all! Have you heard of Amon Amarth or Powerwolf?
I just wish I could see his face when he realizes that this is the same drummer now playing in Nightwish ...
kai drumming still wintersun also. lucky guy have 2 awesome band :)
@@lujalainen1 : No. Heikki Saari is.
@@ImperiumiTV Yes Heikki (Finntroll) is their session drummer. But Kai in a recent interview (on a different react channel) said he is still part of the band and was never out of Wintersun. He never left or was kicked out, but he is just too busy with Nightwish to drum at their live shows, so Heikki stepped in for the Wintersun tours.
Btw Finntroll is an awesome band live! The only two other bands were I was dancing instead of moshing that much were Ensiferum and Alestorm beside Finntroll. If you ever have the chance to catch one of those three go to their shows, you wont regret it (although expect some serios muscle pain the days after ^^)
@@Paapyna he refers to Jari's "wait for it" from Wintersun YTP "wait for it"...15 seconds interlude..."wait for it"....Am I right?
Jari Mäenpää with the white guitar is the heart & soul of Wintersun. He's a genius composer & multi-instrumentalist. In fact their 1st studio album was just him & Kai Hahto (also the present drummer of Nightwish) with just some help from another guitarist. Wintersun's latest album "The Forest Seasons" is all Jari on all the instruments, orchestration, recording, mixing & production with only some additional backing vocals & choirs. Because the kanji on the neck of Teemu's green guitar means "time" or "moment", I might react to this song also: Wintersun - Time (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) REMASTER th-cam.com/video/4UMwLxFNKS0/w-d-xo.html
P.S. For me the big four of Symphonic (power) metal today are: Nightwish, Epica, Dialith & Ad Infinitum since both Delain & Within Temptation no longer qualify as such bands.
My metal journey started out about 8 years ago with Within Temptation. Now I'm into all of the big ones except for Death and Black metal. But I can get into some melodeath on occasion. For me the Big Four in Symphonic metal are: The Gathering, Within Temptation, Nightwish and Epica, but you can also throw Delain in there if you want. Partly I pick these because they were pretty much the first bands that I got into and they are the most popular of the Symphonic metal genre just like Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax (who after all this time i still haven't listened to), and Slayer (also have only listened to one of their songs)(don't worry I have a list that's about 40 ish bands long I need to listen to) are the Big Four of Thrash metal.
@@senditkevin Metal music is a bottomless treasure chest with almost 4000 bands in my home country (Finland) alone, not to mention those over 100K bands in the world. I've been listening to metal occasionally for several decades, but got seriously into it about 2 years ago when I reached 60 years of age. I try to discover new metal bands each day using resources like TH-cam, Spotify, Bandcamp, Metal Storm, Metal-Archives (i.e. Encyclopaedia Metallum), Metal Kingdom, Soundcloud etc..
My favourite genres/subgenres of metal are (After the first three just a list, not a ranking):
1. (Progressive) symphonic (power) metal (e.g. Nightwish, Epica, Avantasia, Metalwings, Dialith, Scardust)
2. Progressive metal (e.g. Dream Theater, Soen, Symphony X, Ayreon, Threshold, Opeth)
3. (Symphonic) melodic death metal (e.g. Wintersun, Insomnium, Mors Pricipium Est, Aephanemer, Amorphis, Omnium Gatrerum)
4. (Extreme)/(pagan)/(viking) folk metal (e.g. Ensiferum, Grai, Arkona, Saurom, Finntroll, Borknagar)
5. Gothic (doom) metal (e.g. Draconian, Trees of Eternity, Katatonia, Swallow The Sun, Paradise Lost)
6. (Progressive) power metal (e.g. Galneryus, Helloween, Blind Guardian, Powerwolf, Sabaton, Stratovarius, Angra, Vandroya)
7. Technical/progressive death metal (e.g. Fractal Universe, Allegaeon, Death, Obscura)
8. Heavy metal (e.g. Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Dio, Rainbow)
9. Alternative metal (e.g. In Flames, Lacuna Coil, Dir En Gray)
10. (Symphonic) death metal (e.g. Septicflesh, Fleshgod Apocalypse, Ex Deo, Genus Ordinis Dei)
I would recommend reacting to Wintersun - Loneliness (winter)! It's one of the most beautiful songs I know. It's not as heavy but shows more Jari's beautiful clean vocals.
For some top quality growling I would have to recommend Amorphis - The Bee or Amongst stars.
Always enjoy your reactions and breakdowns, keep it up!
Kai Hahto is the drummer.. same dude that is currently in Nightwish ;) Wintersun
It's funny that you noticed the guitar tone to be similar of Strapping's :D or it reminded you of it at least. I'm from Finland and I have been a fan of Wintersun since the time Jari was still part of Ensiferum. I've heard that one of the biggest idols of Jari's is Devin ;D so that is where the tone comes from.
I've been a Wintersun fan since their first album came out and I absolutely love Starchild!!!! Check it!!! 🤘
Starchild 2.0 lossless 🤤
Starchild or Sadness and Hate have always been my favorite OG wintersun!
@@futtbux agree though the forest that weeps is a close 3rd to me.
Starchild is insane song!
Finnish bands huh. Perkele, theres so many. Have you heard Children of Bodom, Ensiferum and Amorphis to name three?
funny thing you brought up ensiferum on the first 2 albums jari was the lead singer and guitarist for them. but ensiferum is legit good.
Ensiferum are amazing but I'm so glad jari went on to do wintersun..🤘🤘🤘
Evil Drive is insanely good too... And Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Sinergy... EVIL DRIVE - Fire Is Her Name (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO) th-cam.com/video/08_PduSKNWU/w-d-xo.html
If you wanna get into the finnish metal bands more (and it seems that at the moment those reactions get lots of views), I would suggest trying Stam1na (my favourite), Amorphis or Battle Beast.
Battle Beast Noora is amazing.
Insomnium is a must!
@@maianation So is Finntroll and Korpiklaani
Also Ensiferum, but Stam1na is one of my favs too, fucking awesome band.
Stratovarius
Add Epica and Within Temptation to the list for symphonic metal atleast
Delain, Blackbriar, The Gathering, Queensryche, Savatage, Therion ........
Legion.
Septic Flesh, Dimmu Borgir, Angkor, Rhapsody Of Fire, Haggard, Apocalyptica,- the list goes on.
@@ulfdanielsen6009 Personally I would never describe The Gathering or Queensryche as Symphonic metal.
Ulf Danielsen
Add Carach Angren
Teemu is a guitar god. He's the dark haired guitarist.
th-cam.com/video/gASov_oNsuc/w-d-xo.html Old but funny clip,mäenpää morning warmup :)
He is sick guitarist :)
Dude... respect! Thank you very very much!
Kai Hahto is a beast of a drummer 😅
Jari Mäenpää is mastermind behind the band and Wintersun started as his soloproject when he was kicked or left from his previous band Ensiferum (great band also 😉) because Wintersun took so much time.
Teemu Mäntysaari is other guitarist and Jukka Koskinen plays bass. Jari does not play guitar anymore, he is just focusing on singing so they hired Asim Searah to play guitar.
...live, just live. Jari still plays all guitars in the albums.
I saw Wintersun twice in January before the end of civilization 🤘 Jari has put down the guitar live. I prefer Kai on drums also but they sounded great live🤘💜🤘 #70000tons
This track is just madness...I don't think there is a Big 4 of Symphonic metal bands, but I would argue Nightwish, Epica, Within Temptation, Kamelot and, why not, Dimmu Borgir...
Santiago Martinoli and there you have the problem: symphonic has so many sub-divisions. My symphonic big 4: Nightwish, Sonata Artica, Delain and Kamelot.
Depends if you want to seperate them by female lead or not. Agreed on the Nightwish/Epica/Within Temptation core tho. The other bands I can think of all lean towards another subgenre somehow (Amberian Dawn leans towards power metal, Tristania tends to be labeled as gothic metal etc...)
@Hotaru Tail Are you a Metalocalypse fan ?
@@martijnvanzuilen941 yeah, that's why I think there is no Big 4 like with Thrash...Thrash is very similar from band to band, even considering big differences (the big 4 are vastly different from one another). Symphonic metal is like a complementary sub genre...we usually combine it with other subgenres. Nightwish was symphonic power metal in early albums and in newer albums they have a folky approach, Within Temptation, although I haven't really listened much, has incorporated more pop and electronic elements in the latest releases I think, Kamelot is Power Symphonic, Epica is Symphonic/Death/Prog metal, Dimmu is Symphonic Black metal. Btw I forgot to mention Rhapsody on my "Big 4"
And I left out the distinction of having a female lead singer, which is a fair distinction considering how unusual it is, unfortunately...I think another important band to be added is After Forever although they are not together anymore...and also Therion, although I'm not very familiar with their music...
Not symphonic big 5, but here in finland they actually made a book titled " Folk Metal Big 5". I agree with that big 5 because i listen to every single band on that list and the bands are :
Ensiferum, Moonsorrow, Finntroll, Turisas and Korpiklaani
@elektromanyaro I checked out couple of websites and they all said "only in Finnish". So I'm afraid not
I would say Wintersun (although there is definitely a bit of crossover) falls into the more of the general melodic death metal sphere than symphonic. But a big four of melodeath would be Kalmah and Children of Bodom, probably Dark Tranquility, then any choice of other bands like Soilwork, In Flames, Amon Amarth, At the Gates, etc. There are a ton of great and influential bands in the genre, so probably closer to a big twelve, lol
Wintersun live is super cool, one of the best shows I've been too. They might be one of the tightest bands live.
I just only wish Wintersun would come to my area in the US. I am in Metal hell. LOL Put Ensiferum and Wintesun together? Oh yesss.
Jari’s previous band Ensiferum is worth a listen. My son covered some of their work one his early bands.
in my opinion symphonic/melodic metal hast big 8 which are:
Wintersun
Nightwish
Dark Tranquillity
Insomnium
Wolfheart
Eternal Tears of Sorrow
In flames
Ensiferum
And what about Opeth? The Godfather, even though I prefer Wintersun more.
Probably have to add Blind Guardian since they’re kinda the ones who brought symphonic elements into power metal.
@@TalussAthner Probably we have to add Queen since they created Stone cold crazy
What genre of metal something is is of course a point of huge contention. Most of those IMHO are not symphonic metal, but falls into melodic death and melodic extreme. Old In Flames are melodic death.
Symphonic would be more Nighwish, Epica, Delain, Within Temptation (and some new bands).
Wintersun with this song sounds a lot like new Skeletonwitch , which is classified maybe as melodic extreme metal.
But who knows, the best part of metal is the blending of genres.
At the very least, Epica can not not be on this list. Being around since 2002 and literally have 6 strings and 4 back up choir full time...
If you want another live video with an insane display of skills, try Unleash the Archers - Awakening live playthrough
They are incredible! 🤘
I don't know if there's a Big Four of sorts, but there are definite standouts. Within Temptation, After Forever (Floor's old band!), Epica and Delain are all Dutch bands with definite Nightwish influences, so you could possibly start looking in that direction. But what I think you should rather be looking into is, "what are the European power metal bands that stand out?" You would be REALLY remiss if you missed out on Kamelot's Roy Khan era (especially songs off the One Cold Winter's Night live DVD [edit: as pointed out, Kamelot is a US band, though with a couple of European members) for example, Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth as well as A Night at The Opera -- and Avantasia. The European metal scene is like an octopus: you've got Faroese folk viking metal that sounds absolutely weird on one tentacle, another is Estonian forest folk metal, then you've got Fenno-Swedes singing about trolls beating the #@%! out of priests in a sauna (see Finntroll's Bastuvisan for that one) -- and then there's Therion, who definitely would be in the symphonic Big Four now I think about it. Just see Blood of Kingu, Typhon, or Khlysti Evangelist off their official live in Mexico show.
The thing is, most of the aforementioned play with symphonic elements.
I agree with you wholeheartedly here. But you've actually mixed an American band into that list. Funny enough, Kamelot is an American band. Thomas Youngblood, who is the founding member and the only founding member left, is from Florida.
@@s1lentsymphony607 Yeah, it's the Khan that derped my brain.
Hey dude.. You should definetly check out Wintersun's Loneliness (Winter)
That's our Kai AKA 'The Human Metronome' :)
Epically Epic song of Epicness!
The Ginger Tornado! Love what you're doing bud!
Symphonic Metal Bands (Big 4 off the top of my head, I'm sure there will be plenty of arguments)
with song Suggestions!
-Nightwish
- The Greatest Show on Earth
-Epica
- Sancta Terra
-Kamelot
- Elizabeth (I, II, & III)
-Blind Guardian
- The Bards Song and Valhalla from Wacken 2016
Reactions I'd like to see:
Powerwolf - Demons Are a Girls Best Friend
Battle Beast - Straight to the Heart or King for a Day
Eluveite - Deathwalker
I know it's a big list but wanted to give some options!
Love blind guardian... but they are not symph metal.
@@cypherredux2771 agreed, they are more of a typical power metal
@@cypherredux2771 true, I think I just lumped them in to that group because I discovered all those bands around the same time. There are so many choices for a fourth!
You could go more OG like Stratovarius or more modern like Within Temptation perhaps?
I would say the big Symphonic Metal Bands are Nightwish, Epica, Within Temptation, Therion and Kamelot.
Therion was first with the genre but Nightwish brought it to the masses.
Great to see and listen to how much fun you've got by reacting to Wintersun!
As already a lot said Jari (the leadsinger) is doing almost everything on his own in recording the songs.
I would hardly recommending Wintersun songs "Time" and two older ones "Starchild" (the first BIG track by them) and "Death and the Healing". To mention is that Jari was being leadsinger and guitarrist of finnish folk/viking metal band Ensiferum until 2004. As it looks like that you are enjoying this reaction a lot i would recommend Ensiferum as well - songs like "Hero in a dream" or "battle song" are written and sang by Jari.
A little note: Wintersun isn't the best example for Symphonic Metal; they have parts of it but in my opinion its not fair enough to mash Wintersun to this genre. its more like Melodic Death Metal with an extra portion of Jari's epicness :) but genre classification stuff isn't the most important thing :D
I'm excited for the next one.
Cheers!
I just realised but... you havent checked much Gojira, havent you.
That's something we'll have to remedy to one of these days ! :)
This is pure precious metal from Finland! The drummer (Kai Hahto) plays now in Nighwish.
Next to react: Wintersun - Time (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) REMASTER
( th-cam.com/video/4UMwLxFNKS0/w-d-xo.html )
Live, their choruses sound even better because there’s a few thousand of us singing along.
Rhapsody is definitely one of the biggest symphonic metal bands out there. You should check out Rhapsody "Rain of a Thousands Flames". Also check out Wintersun's biggest influence apart from Townsend, the band Bal Sagoth and their "starmaps of ancient cosmographers" track.
"I know that I'm listening to this 8 more times guys" Try eight thousand. I've heard this song many many times. My first reaction was really similar. I loved how you went from trying to understand the song in the beginning into the pure mesmerized that Wintersun does to metal fans everywhere.
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The big 4 of symphonic metal bands:
1. Therion
2. Nightwish
3. Epica
4. Within Temptation
The big 4 of melodic death metal bands:
1. Wintersun
2. In Flames
3. Children Of Bodom
4. Arch Enemy
Big 4 Of Symphonic Metal? Maybe NIGHTWISH, THERION, EPICA &... Wich banda Is the other? AFTER FOREVER? HAGGARD? I don't know 🤔
It's pretty great how in such a short time you've seen many of my favorite groups. I mean the likes of Epica, Wintersun, Jinjer, NeO, Band-Maid... wow! Along these lines I can make a great recommendation - the criminally underrated VINTERSEA - not many people know of them yet, but they cite NeO and Devin Townsend as big influences. Check out the videos for "Illuminated" or "Old Ones" for example!
Finnish metal is the best metal of the world. Just like bands like a Wintersun, Children Of Bodom, Nightwish, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, Evil Drive, Warmen, Elias "Evil" Viljanen, HIM, Apocalyptica, Tarot, Thunderstone, Raskasta Joulua, Jarkko Ahola, Sentenced, Brother Firetribe, Kenziner, Tarja Turunen... Check all those bands because i bet you love some of them. Greetings Helsinki, Finland.
Next react to «you realizing that is the current drummer of Nightwish!»
When they're singing the chorus together, I feel like that could be something in Lord of the Rings. It just gives off that vibe to me.
This song never ceases to amaze me. Its a complete wild fireworks full of masterful ideas, yet its arranged so perfectly that its never losing track of where it wants to go and makes it all blend perfectly. Its just a fucking masterpiece and delivered flawlessly by real experts on their trade.
Great reaction. Try TIME from the same session. Subscribed and dinged. 🤘😜🤘
At 12:07 "this is like a journey"... That's it! They have the power to bring you with them in an epic journey!
If you are looking for some symphonic metal I would suggest checking out Rhapsody, Sonata Arctica or even some Bal-Sagoth.
Dude, the drummer Kai Hahto is mentioned many times in the comments but people seem to forget the most important band Hahto played in, which is the mighty ROTTEN SOUND - maybe the best grindcore band ever. Shame on all of you not mentioning RS!!
Haggard - Eppur si muove
Ok maybe this is not the biggest name in the genre but they are the best Symphonic metal band ever.
Try them and you'll enter a whole new world, I promise.
There is a big 3 of symphonic metal band : Nightwish Epica and Wintersun
There are still people who use Apple "computers", do you like pain and suffering???
You should do reaction to Fauozia - Blue(cover) it you don't know this song first listen to this ,,Blue" (Da bu di ba) Please its sooo Beautiful!!
18 months later and you find you’re watching half of Nightwish
Finally someone who REALLY appreciates this. Thank you!
Do Eluveitie for some crazy Swiss Folk Metal !!
I've seen them live twice. They are supremely talented musicians. This isn't smoke and mirrors of a studio setting. They are truly amazing live. Everything is absolutely on point.
Wintersun have to be one of my favorite metal bands out there. I've probably heard this song upwards of 100 times and each time, I pick up at least something I missed in prior listens. If you dug this one, I would suggest checking out the 4 seasons album they put out either last year or the year before, it's their most recent release. Glad you enjoyed the song bro. now time for some 🍺🍺🍺 Cheers dude!
lol i challenge you to play Winter Madness - Wintersun , the Lead guitar part ;)
Thank you, ive been waiting this to come. This is masterpiece, next Time and same rehersals then loneliness
Gosh, for a moment i was worried which version you would react to.. Yes the Sonic Pump Rehearsals are epic! Thank you for doing this.. Greetings from FINLAND!! The country of most metal bands per capita in the world!
Exactly same here and greetings from finland aswell 😬
I think that's one of the reasons why Jukka joined Nightwish.
Awesome reaction. You still haven't done anything else by them though?! Do "Time" from the same session, it is absolutely epic.
I didn't even like this song like two months ago. I loved and still love their other songs, Time and Land of Snow and Sorrow are my favorite songs. But I've been watching these reaction videos and I've realized that this song is a masterpiece. It's perfect and the song writer is amazing. And so is everyone in this band. They're so passionate. This is art. ❤
Nice reaction/Analysis, i knew you would super like it!
If you like those melodic death metal bands (with symphonic elementes), you should also take a look at amorphis!
I suggest you the song - The bee!
Keep on rockin!!
The biggest in symphonic metal is in order: Nightwish, Epica, Within Temptation after this it's gets muddy.
However best symphonic metal would for me be: Nightwish, Versailles, Epica.
Also don't forget to checkout Versailles - Faith and decision ( m.th-cam.com/video/AdhfE6ITfoQ/w-d-xo.html ). 😁
I like it I like it
It's amazing you really can hear and recognize the words Jari is singing. I rarely catch any from metal music.
But somehow Jari pronounces the lyrics so clearly, so I'm able to hear/understand the words. Even some from Jari's crowling.
The drummer Kai is phenomenal, no words to discribe his talent. Nowadays he is a permanent drummer in Nightwish band.
BTW, thank you so much for your pro reaction 👊🇫🇮
Cool reaction. This band is totally amazing. I discovered them just 2 years ago and bought all the albums (wish there were more). Next you could react to "Time" from the same studio rehearsal.
Wintersuns first album was amazing and on it is a song called sadness and hate it's I think Kai's best drumming ever. And I'm not sure if it's true but apart from the drums I heard jari played every other instrument and done all the writing and composition why is jari not much bigger he's a legend also I think it took him seven years from leaving Ensiferum to releasing Wintersuns first album cos he wanted it to be perfect to his original vision..
You man are one of the very few people here on TH-cam that actually LISTEN to the song and not just hear it. Congrats dude, you should check all their stuff, they are just perfect.
"Do they sound like this live?" -Yes.
"Explosion, confetti, a small army of Ninjas..." -Yes.
"Anybody else needs a cigarette?" -Yes.
*ps. That was live. It was one take, 3 songs (the album: Time) straight, that was the last song.
That drummer is Kai Hahto and he plays in Nightwish too
The drummer Kai is nowadays the drummer of Nightwish (maybe because of those sessions and also because he os a very close friend and also teacher of Yuka the previous drummer). Also have a listen to the song TIME from the same series at this studio. And also of their album of the 4 seasons (like vivaldi???) and listen to Winter, Loneliness or Summer, The Forest that weeps, all very epic and to listen more times to let it grow on you.
This song is a god damn musical masterpiece. Seeing them live is incredible. They sound just as good live.
So good!
I only saw em once as they dont come to the US to much but yes they sound like this live
Wintersun! Kai Hahto The Grinder! This band is very special. Many songs! Loneliness, Battle against Time just to name a few.
You could also do Fleshgod Apocalypse! Francesco Paoli and the boys!
Songs like Sugar, The Violation
Keep going!
I don't think there are big 4 or something like that. But if we talk about Symphonic metal there are some big names. Over all Nightwish... then Blind Guardian, Avantasia, Sonata Arcitca, Epica, Sirenia, Leaves Eye, Wintersun, Within Temptation...
But if you talk about a more generic metal... Finnland is the cradle of the best metal (epic, symphonic and folk). Some of them are: Nightwish, Sonata Arctica, Battle Beast, Ensiferum, KorpiKlaani... Those are only few of them (and it's a matter of personal taste)... but there's a lot to talk about. You're getting into a huge world...
My favourote, anyway, are Nightwish, Blind Guardian, old Sonata Arctica and Within Temptation...
For me some of the must listen to bands for symphonic metal are Nightwish, Epica, Wintersun, Delain and Within Temptation
Edit: honorable mentions to Kamelot, Avantasia, Rhapsody and Timo Tolkki's Avalon
Это с каких же пор Wintersun записали в sympho metal команды?
Top 4? Nightwish without a doubt.
Then Within Temptation, Epica... then? I guess Kamelot...
Maybe also Dimmu Borgir.. just look at their "forces of the northern night" series. "Gateways" (live Oslo) is a must see!
The Big Four:
Nightwish, Epica, Within Temptation, Septic Flesh, Dimmu Borgir, Angkor, Rhapsody Of Fire, Haggard, Apocalyptica, Delain, Blackbriar, The Gathering, Queensryche, Savatage, Kamelot, Imperial Age....
Legion.
I would place Wintersun more into the (Finnish) Melodic Death Metal genre. One of my top favorites. They are kind of the very rare fine wine, where you have to train your taste buds before you really appreciate the full flavor. So nothing for beginners ^^ My top Melodic Death Metal bands (as a rough definition) from Finland are: Wintersun, Insomnium, Ensiferum, Amorphis, Omnium Gatherum, Children of Bodom, Kalmah, Brymir, Finntroll...might miss one or the other. From Sweden: Arch Enemy, Amon Amarth, In Flames, Soilwork, At The Gates.
Still have to discover more from Norway...listen a lot to Borknagar, Vreid, Windir, Wormwood...which fall definitively more into the Black Metal genre as to count them as Melodic Death though
Ah btw as you mentioned the Arpeggio here is is a detailed video from Teemu Mäntysaari about that topic th-cam.com/video/aOcuF4FuSdM/w-d-xo.html Btw everyone mentiones Jari, but Teemu and Asim couldn't get enough credits as well. Both are on my list of top guitar players out there. Also both give skype guitar lessons for everyone who is interested ;)
Good list I will had Carcass(UK), Mors Principium Est(Finland), Dark Tranquillity(Sweden). Edge f Sanity(Sweden) and Opeth(Sweden) more on the progressive side. For Black metal : Dissection(Sweden), Emperor(Norway).
Devin Townsend is a big inspiration for the singer of Wintersun! Emperor also.
@@brothernemiel6465 Teemu! Asim!
This is just perfection in music form, what a stellar song
Welcome to Wintersun, the most insanely talanted band in the planet. The vocalist/guitarist is called Jari Maenpaa and he is the heart and sole of the band. He is a musical genius and writes all the songs, and composes and arranges everything. He is an unbelievable guitarist nobody can sweep pick like him, know one. Incredible vocal range. He has stopped playing guitar live now so he can concentrate on his vocals fully but still writes all the riffs etc himself in the studio. Check out the solo by him on the track Winter Madness it's incredible. Kai Haito on drums is one of the best drummers in the world and now plays full time in the band Nightwish although I really miss him in Wintersun. Please check out the official Lyrical video for the song Loneliness which is from their newest album The Forest Seasons. It's hauntingly beutiful he wrote it for his father who sadly passed away not long before, Loneliness being how Jari felt. It's incredibly sad but brings tears to my eyes, I could listen to it a thousand times over and over and never get tired of it. Please, please, please react to it🖤🙏🙏🙏
Nightwish, Wintersun, Moonsorrow, Frosttide, Korpiklaani, Alestorm, Fintroll, Trollfest, Sonata Arctica, some of the Finnish bands that that come to mind which have a more or less symphonic influence.
Sonata Attica was my fav band... but I truly find it painful to listen to their newer stuff 😪
If you wen't for the harder stuff early, you've probably heard of Rotten Sound (a grindcore pioneer), which was a band Hahto (the drummer) played in years ago in their twenties.
Current top Symphonic Metal bands: Nightwish, Epica, Therion, Kamelot. Therion is considered the band that made Symphonic Metal a genre, Nightwish made Symphonic Metal popular in metal scene.
You forgot Wintersun
@@Spectre67Productions Wintersun is currently inactive, that's why Kai Hahto joined Nightwish. FYI, Kai Hahto has assisted Nightwish during Dark Passion Play live show as drum technician. During Imaginaerum (Showtime, Storytime Tour), Kai Hahto returned to Wintersun. Back again to Nightwish during Endless Forms Most Beautiful as replacement drummer since Jukka resignation.
Few thoughts I had:
1. FInland is NOT actually known for Symphonic Metal even though Nightwish is our best selling band. Our poison of choice is pretty much Melodic Death Metal. That's also in vogue in Sweden and Swedish bands have been huge influence to finnish bands. Finnish music is usually more melancholic compared to Swedish. Examples of Finnish Melo Death: Sentenced (gone the way of the dodo, still influences newer bands), Amorphis (has gone through couple of styles over the years, still active after 30 years, often uses Finnish national epic Kalevala as an inspiration for songs) and for newer generation Insomnium.
2.Confusion between Song of winter and Stars and Time might come from the fact that both are part of "Sonic pump Studios trilogy" and someone probably had a brainfart while suggesting two different songs. They played 3 songs in during that live rehearsal @Sonic Pump Studios. "Song of winter and Stars", "Time" and "Land of Snow and Sorrow". Both Time and Land of Snow and Sorrow are good candidates for reaction by the way. Hint, hint. Nudge, Nudge.
3. Those hidden tracks almost made me shat myself couple of times as teen. I was reading while listening either Kotiteollisuus or Finntroll. Well the album ended and as I was reading I sat in silence for something like 5-10min until hidden track started with something like "URAAAAAAA" and I dropped my book. As a side note Finntroll is kinda intresting band. Finnish band but they sing in Swedish because original singer was bilingual and thought that Swedish sounds more trollish.
And lastly reaction wishes: Insomnium incorporates many elements that are found in typical Finnish metal, so lets go with Insomnium - While we sleep. Or if you would like a 7min "Visit Finnland" travel add then Insomnium - Heart like a grave.
Day cannot also be complete without some Metal Polka so... Finntroll - Under Bergets Rot
The song/s of Wintersun like TIME and SONS OF WINTER AND SONS are awesome due to their heavenly POWER METAL and amazingly choir that put on the backing track even their guitar riffs and solos are unique. It was epic and powerful meaning lyrics that almost a storytelling. Actually I watch also their remastered vision and still as awesome on a higher level when they're live. Nice reaction 👍 on the video by the way and good analyzing to their epic songs. :) from 🇵🇭
It's the Nightwish drummer Kai Hahto in his previous life :)
The big 12... Rhapsody, Nightwish, Brymir, Wind rose, Shade empire, Stormlord, Aephanemer, Aeternam, Wintersun, Dimmu Borgir, Fleshgod apocalypse, Behemoth... i don't know, there are tons of great bands out there
The Big three of Wintersun is this song and "Loneliness (Winter)" and "Time" and if you like black metal, definitely "Eternal Darkness (Autumn)" is among the very best
I had the opportunity to see them live and I can say that the experience cannot be compared, it is simply one of the best concerts of my life
Next AMORPHIS Please
with you, great reaction
I agree.. great riff. That made me think of another song you should check out. The Riff by Lordi. Another Finnish band, but they have a monster/horror theme to it. Basically Finland's answer to GWAR. Excellent stuff.
Hope more winterson is coming 😬