difference between first time rewards at prime wars are ammount of starcrom and by getting more point u get x amount of mods and weapons as reward when completed 15.05 and yes there is basicly no content after 3rd week pws are nice if u have nice group(they are laggy asf when some one uses molotows or bbom boom because server cant hadle it) most of mats are too easy to get ur hands on there is no value to trying to farm anything because lack of ways to get controllers. and they have telld us how wipes work they are included in game menu too
Yeah, they told us how wipes work... but what better way to see how it works and FEELS than to experience it for yourself? So I'm in it for the wipe. Maybe it'll freshen up the game and make me want to play more. Maybe it won't. I won't know until I see it. As for the PW, the issue is that the rewards are kinda pathetic since they give you resources you can get outside of it... resource that you waste x20 times more just to complete it.
@@Comrade_Del last day they fixed pw resources and made like mod drops getting dropped as hier tier and now controlles like wise are farmamble but yes after wipes may be fun few times like if map changes or something but how much etc and can they keep game content feeling fresh tbh
30 hours in I lost my first base to the bug. Decided, I would just start over. I'm now another 40 hours in and lost all motivation to continue. I SO badly want to 100% the map. But there's no point if it's just gonna reset.
You shoulld remember to make blueprints, but if you lost your base, most of the mats should have been in your vault so you could just rebuild. It happened to me and I just built a better base.
I agree the pacing is gonna be rough in this game long term. I play PvE and loved the opening grind getting more memetics and farming base upgrades but im already max rank w/ a finished battle pass and like 6 quests left with half the season still to go. Unless they add alot more quests and events in the next phases im basically just gonna be sitting at home waiting for acid and gas to refine while spamming adverts for my vending machines and im sure im not gonna be the only one even if im a little early to the party compared to the average. Also the season wipe is gonna be a double edged sword I feel, while engaging to bring back people for the first phase or two the retention is gonna be bad cause without the reset at least more people would be okay with sitting out these dry spells just to bulk farm various resources. Overall im on the fence about the longevity of the game and seasonal wipes it really just depends on what direction the devs take moving forward.
U could play other games and not play 4-6 maybe 8 hour sessions of one single game. I have 30 Hours playing at my leisure and won’t get everything done
@@Astrobmh Sorry your slow? Idk its not that hard to mainline through the content especially considering like the video mentions its clones of the exact same quest most of my playtime after the first day is sitting around making aesthetic bases and watching acid refine.
Yeah, it's kind of the issue. I basically maxed out of my memetics and levels by days 3 of phase 2... and we have 6 phases in the season. I honestly don't think players should feel like they reached the endgame and done everything 1/3 of the way through the season. Now granted, this is just the first season and we're only like 3 weeks after the release of the game. I really hope that the next season would be more evenly spread out to keep us engaged but as it is right now I honestly don't feel like I got much to do in the game besides wait for my acid and oil to be processed. First impressions are important and if this is how seasons are going to be handled, as in give you a nice exciting start for the first 2 weeks and then leave to nothing else to do but mindlessly grind for mats by doing the same thing or waiting for the rest of the season, I can already tell that a lot of people would fall off the game.
@@Astrobmh 30 hours? Idk what the gotcha moment is supposed to be you said it in your first reply but considering you said 6 8 hour sessions was unfeasible when really your already nearly 3/4 of the way there. I do agree I dumped a bit more time than the average person but 90% of my server is in the last 10 levels of their account with 4 phases in the season still to go otherwise id share your sentiment a little more.
Great video! I think the events are a bit lackluster reward side but the experience of the event for me is pretty fun. I think a big thing to increase player engagement is to fix the party finder system and make "event specific" rewards or potentially a specific event currency to buy cosmetics or bulk resources or perhaps an extremely expensive item that will allow you to pull the effects of legendaries or epics, like the power surge or shrapnel perks
Yeah, right now all the events and dungeons and even bosses basically give you the exact same rewards. Why would you waste your time on events and bosses when you can consistently and quickly grind the same resource you'll get elsewhere by grinding a dungeon? One of the dungeons can literally be completed in 2-3 minutes and is where most people farm for credits and stardust. If events offered something different I have no doubt that people would be drawn to it a lot more. Imagine an event that has a small, even tiny chance to drop a unique weapon blueprint or even blueprint fragments? I think that'll instantly make it an event that the entire serve population would not miss. You got screwed over with your specializations and you can do anythign with gold? Imagine an event where you can smelt your silver or gold ores but you have to protect the smelter? That'll make for an interesting event and give those people who lost on the RNG a chance to use a resource that is essentially useless to them beyond just trading it. There's so many ways to make the day to day life in the game more unique and interesting instead of just sitting in your base waiting for your acid and oil to process or grinding the same dungeon again and again.
I can tell you this as a person that’s been in all the beta’s… that patch won’t fix a lot. They’re common issues we had all the way back a year ago, the true updates you should be excited for are the end of august ones for the new server infrastructure… but I don’t see them having many players left by then since they are fixing things that aren’t true core issues.
I totally agree with you man, the one and only life service that i still strongly involve myself in is Dayz Standalone. Btw, anyone wanna play modded Dayz some time?
I am enjoying the game so far, but I do not like the idea of the seasonal wipes for sure. I am a very slow, methodic, horder type player - which is really hard with the toooooo short respawn rates of mobs! :-) I am one of the guilty ones that has not done any of the public events, but I do not like public, I seem to have the ability to make the wrong chioices in a tight situation and screw things up for others so I avoid them. I have even tried to watch videos of others playing the event, but when I try to do the same things myself - it all goes to HECK! So for everyone's sake I stay away from them.
Cant say much for the content lacking yet cause im just in week 2 on a server and ive spent far too much time building instead of questing but the game has a very strong foundation.
It really does! But this season is going to last 6 weeks. Week 1 and 2 were AWESOME. New quests, new areas, new dungeons. Week 3? Just a new difficulty for bosses and dungeons. No new areas, no new events, no new rewards. If this keeps up through week 4, 5 and 6, it's going to be a bit of a letdown content wise. What I mean is that it feels like they just blew all their content on the first two weeks and the rest is padding. I love building a cool base too, but I can't see myself spending 4 weeks just on that when there's nothing new to do for the rest of the season.
The goal they went with this game is to collect rare to legendary blueprints to keep for next season, and to collect starchroms and mitsuko's mark for gacha and seasonal skins. Im new to survival games but this game feels fine, I think the primary problem with this game aside from incentives, is the goal/objective on why should you play this game.
I'm enjoying the game too but the goal/objective issue is really the main problem. Yeah, we just started as the game just launched and I have no doubt they'll add more stuff to grind/farm for but if it's the only thing they'll be focusing on, I can expect a significant amount of people to fall off in a season or two. I understand that the grind is part of the game and many people even like it, but I don't think it's going to take away from the game or hurt it if they attempt to make the grind more entertaining, varied and fun.
I didn't say it's losing players NOW. I'm saying it might lose a significant number if the next season is going to be a repeat of that. Although the new patch does calm some of my worries. They added more ways to gain some resources and more events to come. That's a good sign!
Also week 2 of the wipe is super lack luster, week one is so long that you basically farm all the mats you need, so when week 2 comes around you can get the story and weapons you want in a day. Not to mention you get one new boss for week 2 and the next boss unlocks week 4. I like the idea of locked progression but it seems too extreme. RNG make mods so painful to get. Especially if you want a god roll.
I wish bosses and dungeons would give you a different reward than just any other regular activity, or the opposite. Why would I do any events or bosses when I can go to a dungeon and get the very same reward but in a bigger quantity? It's why people farm dungeons, not bosses. It's not worth it. I also hate how you can't fix looted weapons. Why even have them? But yeah, week 1 and 2 were great, since you actually had things to do in them. Granted, you're right that week 2 was lackluster in comparison since pretty much everyone farmed so much in week 1 that they could get the week 2 stuff within a day, but week 3 was abysmal in comparison to that! Just a difficulty upgrade? Come on... if the only thing Week 4 is going to give us is 1 new boss, just 2 more quests and that's it? I'll be pissed.
@@Comrade_Del The first paragraph isn't entirely true, you do want to farm events, silos and monoliths. From events you get controllers and with the most recent update, it's made clear that you can get 3 controllers per day from public events. From silos and monoliths you can target farm mods - silos drop armor mods for specific slots, while monoliths drop weapon mods for specific builds. The only things that aren't worth farming are LEA, the Forsaken Giant and Prime War bosses, since they drop the same amount of loot as pro silos and monoliths but the mods are completely randomized, therefore you can't target farm mods there. The only unique rewards from these places are deviants, but they're not good enough to warrant farming them.
Im sure by the time this game wipes its definitely gonna be a smaller group like fo76. This game only was popular when it released but now we literally lost half of the community because they heard of the season wipe. Only people who will stay are the fans of this type of game imo. They will be games that will come out that people will move on to. Also not everyone can invest in grinding as much esp when they have real life priority's. Game is free and free to move on lol its not like you paid anything.
Events reward controllers, controllers are needed to open loot rewards. Fuel and acid can be gained from the crates you can buy with event currency. I feel like you are missing things. 9 players on your server? I have 22 active right now in just my warband. We need to have a chat I think live.
I feel like you're missing things too :) Video was made before the crates were added to Nissa and besides that... why would you need to do the events anyway when you can farm them? People have set up farms that far outstrip the time and effort required to get a substantial amount of acid and fuel from Nissa. Yeah, you gain controllers... but the loot you get from said rewards has no variety whatsoever and all rewards are basically the same with a few minor exceptions. The only useful thing is Stardust... which can also be farmed if you have the Stardust pump and the ability to craft batteries en masse and if you do that, it renders every single event in the game pretty much worthless if the only thing you're after is Stardust. And really, looking at one server and using it as the standard for the hundreds of servers out there? Your server is more populated. You got lucky. Mine is less populated. Sucks for me.
Yeah, it's the current solution but it's a solution that takes time. You need to build a proper base, find a proper location for it (good luck since there's dozens of videos about these locations so people already build bases there) and then have the infrastructure to basically make your base focused on making acid. Yeah, it's viable, it works... but there's also people who don't like doing this kind of stuff, so they're kinda forced into it. Thankfully, there's a couple of annoying alternatives to farm acid.
The main reason for the wipes (and I’m shocked that this isn’t clear to the most People) is to clear the map. How many Players have built a House, stuffed it full with everything they could find. Then Logged off and never came back. So… what do you think makes the servers run worse? a) Events b) The Shit ton of stuff random player built, that might never come back though. It’s not for content, it’s not for balancing, it’s not for getting things fixed. It’s to clear the map of dead players houses. That simple. Nothing more, nothing less. Especially late game players have large, complex houses with a LOT of stuff in it. All of that slows the servers down. So they wipe it. Why do you think they came up with Eternaland? You can basically store all of your stuff there and then bring it over to the next season.
There is an event that gives acid and premium gas. Defennding refineries, with the deviant food buff, you can earn 500 acid in 30 mins. This event also gives premium gas.
Yeah, but those require extraction permits... and the drop rate on those is extremely low, so you don't really have a guaranteed way to continue farming this way. I for one already used up my extraction permits and I don't really have much luck with the RNG to get more of them consistently sadly. Ironically, my attempts to get the permits get me more acid than the refinary does! Not so much with premium gas but you get my point. I know it's supposed to be a premium resource but wouldn't it be nice to have a event that maybe gives you like 5-10 premium gas or something? It'll be a consistent way to get the resource, can't really grind it but it will make people excited to participate!
@@Comrade_Del You can loot fuel to make premium fuel from cars on the side of the road. I have 1000s of fuel from running around and looting the cars. Acid is no issue since you can earn about a million e-links an hour at shadow hound. In the server I'm in, acid sells for 60ea. My only issue with the game is the rubber crafting item. No one in my server sells it and i seem to never loot enough of it to repair my armor.
@@Glubbdubdrib Yep, I'm on that rubber grind too as I'm starting to run low... but yeah, right now converting regular fuel to premium one is how I'm doing it. I got like 3000 units of acid by now so it's no big deal and I didn't even grind or wait for it since I just bought it from Nissa.
you keep everything important after the wipes,you keep your blueprints,mods, accessories,other in game currencies except energy links,you only thing lose is your base and level.after the wipe you move to a new part of the map and continue the story, new gear,deviants and bosses.Acid and oil can be farmed.the wipe is a thing so that new people dont feel overwhelmed
I understand the idea, there's no confusion there. What I'm weary about is the execution. Yeah, you get to keep those items... but how many of them are you going to use? How many of them are you ALLOWED to use? You can already see in game that you'll need to pay a specific currency to transfer items from Eternaland to your game. How much currency will you have? How expensive is it going to be? What if they'll make it so you can only transfer a VERY limited amount of items? Honestly, the only way to actually know how it all works is to experience it. Devs can say whatever they want but I'd rather see it with my own eyes before I do a final judgement on it.
These are the same issues we brought up over a year ago. Forced time gates, forced weekly limits on simple things, story progression gated by timers and zones that you can’t even enter without the map trying to kill you… This is and are the same issues they were warned about… if you think acid and premium fuel is bad now? TRUST ME, you wouldn’t have liked what they forced us to do originally in the beta’s. You had to play 90% of the game with the crossbow since acid and gun powder drops were very rare. Prime war missiles (biomass) were 25 premium fuel per missile - silvers were 100 premium per missile… We had 1/10 the starchrom amounts we have now and NO OPTION to buy what you wanted like you can now… they didn’t listen and the plummeting player numbers is evidence enough
I'm really hoping that they'll actually use what they learned from the beta but... who knows. I'm glad to see them adding more events to the game but honestly, I'm already betting the rewards are going to be the same ones as anything else. The latest event they added, which is a level 50 event just gives you some stardust and that item you can use to farm starchrom. Nothing unique, nothing special. Very little incentive. Again, why would I go to this event to look for stardust, waste thousands of bullets, like 10-15 minutes of my life when I can run a dungeon in 2-3 minutes and get like 10 times more?
@@Comrade_Del the problem with them “adding more events” is that they don’t advertise them as what they are. Look at highway pursuit, they made it look awesome and fun, instead we get an on rails follow sim… and the drops absolutely suck and aren’t even what they showed off… people are putting up with the bait and switch anymore
@@jsullivan649 It goes back to the problem I pointed out. Incentives. The event isn't out yet so I'm hoping, probably pointlessly, that they might do something different with it but knowing how everything is done so far... it's probably the same rewards than all the other events give. Still, more stuff to do, I guess... for a day or two before everyone gets bored with it.
Yep, I'm a casual player which is why more content is needed. I honestly don't have the patience and will to grind the same dungeon again and again and again for some mats. It's still early though, only been like 3 weeks so I'm hoping the devs got plans for it! But first impressions are important and it doesn't really feel like they went all out with their first season, which is arguably the best time to go all out to hook everyone into the game.
@@aesieaiyahcloe Nah, I don't think I'm anywhere near min maxing. I don't try to make a specialized broken build. I just got a weapon I liked, upgraded it and play the game. I don't got a base designed to get 100+ acid an hour like some other players have nor do I grind the same dungeon for 3 hours to have a surplus of mats. I just want to run around and have more stuff to do xD
Honestly the lack of new content between phases does the same to a lot of people. I could put hours into the game but I honestly don't have much to do in the game beyond grinding for an hour or two and quitting until later.
PPL always complain, show me 1 mmo where ppl are super satisfied with the game, it doesnt exist, I also dont like the wipes idea and this is the reason I dont play this game even tho I like it.
You're right on the money there! You literally CAN'T please everyone so someone will always complain! My complains are honestly nitpicks. I understand that this is basically a live service game and they never just give you all content at once... but I don't really have to like it, right? And I don't. I just want more content and more verienty and incentive between the phases, that's all. Heck, they might already have a plan to do just that! I just think it's silly to hold back at a time where they need to show their best to keep the players hooked.
Most of the games will be boring for someone who can play 15 hour's daily. I'm working 8 hours, 5 day's a week and I don't even have enough time to finish all i need in phase one. I can safely say, that I won't discover everything game has to offer right now, even on second cycle. Once human had a pretty successful start, it's hard to believe that they are not planning to add more stuff and event's. And what's most important, cycle just started, it's end of the phase 1, not a lot of game studios revealing their updates month early
Well, just because I'm a youtuber/streamer doesn't mean I got 15 hours a day to play. I'm on that 9-5 grind too since a guy's gotta eat and pay the bills. So even with investing 2-4 hours a day into this game, I got through the vast majority of the content the game had by day 3 of week 2 and I didn't even need to rush through it. Did it all at a chill, leisurely pace. But yes, the game is definitely had a succesful start. I still recall how I had to literally walk 10 minutes to find an open spot on the starting area in my server because it was so populated. But I'm already seeing a severe drop of people on my server and most people don't even bother with the Prime War anymore because by their own words, it's not worth the hassle and lost resources to do more than once. Yeah, it's only phase one as you said and we just started out, but at the same time, it sets the tone for how things would be done and I really want to see what they do next... but I just hope it's not more of the same.
@@Comrade_Del Which is weird tho, because there's 130/145k average player count on steam, I don't know how it exactly work bcs there's different servers, worlds and all that crap, new servers keep getting added. I started playing around last weekend on the newest server and the majority of the time there were people on almost every location/ time event etc. Then I noticed that before the new cycle it was a lot less crowded, which is kinda logical in cycle type game I guess, you just take the perfect available spot for base and keep grinding the most important materials.
@@Comrade_Del They had super long beta and still keeping top ish playerbase on steam. Ofc if they won't make improvements and enhance gameplay then 80% playerbase gonna drop pretty fast. But if that's their end product after such success for a free game, then it's a shame because so far I'm having a blast 😌
@@DankChucle Honestly, if you've seen the latest update patch notes, it really removes a lot of my worries! They added new ways for some of the events to be more useful and added incentives to participate in them. Don't get me wrong, I'm having a blast too! I love this game! But I just feel that them holding a lot of the content and their ideas back simply because you need to keep stuff back because it's a live service game is not the best choice they could've done. I'm of the opinion that first impressions are important and that they needed to blow our minds. The first two weeks did that but I can tell they decided to take it slow for the rest of the season. Most likely because they're focusing on actual fixes and optimization.
@@DankChucle If think it feels a lot less crowded because people moved away from the central area. With the map opening up, people started spreading around so it feels less crowded. But I just noticed that there's a lot less people online on my server at least. Could be many reasons. Maybe they switched servers to play with friends since we don't have character migration (which is a bummer in my opinion) I don't want to start a new character if I want to play with friends from other regions :(
I tried the GOTCHA machine because thats what I was told is the only way to really upgrade your weapons or armor....over 5k spent and I got nothing I could use,pissed me off but I moved on and tried to help a hive mate build a farm and after a full day of building and setting up the ground was only giving polluted water so we had to move her and I took that spot and when I set up an acid farm and put my pumps down all I got was dirty water...I moved the pumps up and down raised them up and still all I got was dirty water...WTF
@Comrade_Del it's just very odd I set up in the exact same spot and got totally different resource...that and losing 5k pretty much ended it for me as I won't be playing it till the gotcha machine isn't the main way to upgrade.
@@ShadowKingRecks Yeah, I would love the devs to add alternative ways to get BP fragments because yeah, you need A LOT of Starchrom to upgrade a single legendary weapon...
How many hours a day have u been playing? U run out of content if u burn threw it quickly no living the game is a common problem I see people run into. I play at most 4 hours a day and I still have not run out of things to do. There is plenty of content in the game in my opinion.
Honestly, I play just about the same amount. With maybe a bit more on days off from work. As I've said, I basically completed all the quests and sidequests by day 3 of week 2... and since then I've just been working on my base, farming tools and maybe random loot crates and so on. Yeah, it's still stuff to do but if we're looking at actually content, it's a bit of a bad look when your season lasts 6 weeks but all your content is only for week 1 and 2.
lol the rant is silly. Zoom out of the map and you will understand why the 6 week wipe is needed. and that we gain access to a new region in the new season. Clearly you need to read about more information on the things the developers has planned. And BTQ Fallout 76 is shit
It IS silly, but it's just that. A silly rant. I've read everything the devs have said and I followed every announcement and explanation but first impressions are important and so far to me it seems that they just blew their load on the first two phases of the season and the rest is just a frankly boring difficulty upgrade without anything else. Does it mean it'll be the same the next season? No! I know they'll expand the map in the next season and give us new areas and new quests to explore and many new things and honestly that's what's keeping me in the game. I want to see more! But is there a guarantee that the next season won't work the same way? As in all the content is going to come in the first 2-3 phases and the rest is just going to be a difficulty upgrade? Again, I'm not complaining about the wipe. In fact, I think it'll make the game intersting... IF the new season is going to have more content spread out between the phases instead of just being all bunched up at the start. And Fallout 76 does some things better and some things worse! To each their own!
Dude if you do things right you will have unlimited amount of acid and fuel... I build a base in cool place from start and now my base already prodused 50k acid and 25k premfuel... And yes i produce about 100 biomissiles every day... Stardust is the problem for me😅
Yeah, that's valid but I don't bother going THAT hard on the passive farming lol. I still want to have stuff to do! I got my tiny farm and I get my tiny amount which is honestly enough for me :D
difference between first time rewards at prime wars are ammount of starcrom and by getting more point u get x amount of mods and weapons as reward when completed 15.05 and yes there is basicly no content after 3rd week pws are nice if u have nice group(they are laggy asf when some one uses molotows or bbom boom because server cant hadle it) most of mats are too easy to get ur hands on there is no value to trying to farm anything because lack of ways to get controllers. and they have telld us how wipes work they are included in game menu too
Yeah, they told us how wipes work... but what better way to see how it works and FEELS than to experience it for yourself? So I'm in it for the wipe. Maybe it'll freshen up the game and make me want to play more. Maybe it won't. I won't know until I see it. As for the PW, the issue is that the rewards are kinda pathetic since they give you resources you can get outside of it... resource that you waste x20 times more just to complete it.
@@Comrade_Del last day they fixed pw resources and made like mod drops getting dropped as hier tier and now controlles like wise are farmamble but yes after wipes may be fun few times like if map changes or something but how much etc and can they keep game content feeling fresh tbh
30 hours in I lost my first base to the bug. Decided, I would just start over. I'm now another 40 hours in and lost all motivation to continue. I SO badly want to 100% the map. But there's no point if it's just gonna reset.
You shoulld remember to make blueprints, but if you lost your base, most of the mats should have been in your vault so you could just rebuild. It happened to me and I just built a better base.
I agree the pacing is gonna be rough in this game long term. I play PvE and loved the opening grind getting more memetics and farming base upgrades but im already max rank w/ a finished battle pass and like 6 quests left with half the season still to go. Unless they add alot more quests and events in the next phases im basically just gonna be sitting at home waiting for acid and gas to refine while spamming adverts for my vending machines and im sure im not gonna be the only one even if im a little early to the party compared to the average. Also the season wipe is gonna be a double edged sword I feel, while engaging to bring back people for the first phase or two the retention is gonna be bad cause without the reset at least more people would be okay with sitting out these dry spells just to bulk farm various resources. Overall im on the fence about the longevity of the game and seasonal wipes it really just depends on what direction the devs take moving forward.
U could play other games and not play 4-6 maybe 8 hour sessions of one single game. I have 30
Hours playing at my leisure and won’t get everything done
@@Astrobmh Sorry your slow? Idk its not that hard to mainline through the content especially considering like the video mentions its clones of the exact same quest most of my playtime after the first day is sitting around making aesthetic bases and watching acid refine.
Yeah, it's kind of the issue. I basically maxed out of my memetics and levels by days 3 of phase 2... and we have 6 phases in the season. I honestly don't think players should feel like they reached the endgame and done everything 1/3 of the way through the season. Now granted, this is just the first season and we're only like 3 weeks after the release of the game. I really hope that the next season would be more evenly spread out to keep us engaged but as it is right now I honestly don't feel like I got much to do in the game besides wait for my acid and oil to be processed. First impressions are important and if this is how seasons are going to be handled, as in give you a nice exciting start for the first 2 weeks and then leave to nothing else to do but mindlessly grind for mats by doing the same thing or waiting for the rest of the season, I can already tell that a lot of people would fall off the game.
@@LegendsDEMON386 how many hours do I got?
@@Astrobmh 30 hours? Idk what the gotcha moment is supposed to be you said it in your first reply but considering you said 6 8 hour sessions was unfeasible when really your already nearly 3/4 of the way there. I do agree I dumped a bit more time than the average person but 90% of my server is in the last 10 levels of their account with 4 phases in the season still to go otherwise id share your sentiment a little more.
Great video! I think the events are a bit lackluster reward side but the experience of the event for me is pretty fun. I think a big thing to increase player engagement is to fix the party finder system and make "event specific" rewards or potentially a specific event currency to buy cosmetics or bulk resources or perhaps an extremely expensive item that will allow you to pull the effects of legendaries or epics, like the power surge or shrapnel perks
Yeah, right now all the events and dungeons and even bosses basically give you the exact same rewards. Why would you waste your time on events and bosses when you can consistently and quickly grind the same resource you'll get elsewhere by grinding a dungeon? One of the dungeons can literally be completed in 2-3 minutes and is where most people farm for credits and stardust. If events offered something different I have no doubt that people would be drawn to it a lot more. Imagine an event that has a small, even tiny chance to drop a unique weapon blueprint or even blueprint fragments? I think that'll instantly make it an event that the entire serve population would not miss.
You got screwed over with your specializations and you can do anythign with gold? Imagine an event where you can smelt your silver or gold ores but you have to protect the smelter? That'll make for an interesting event and give those people who lost on the RNG a chance to use a resource that is essentially useless to them beyond just trading it. There's so many ways to make the day to day life in the game more unique and interesting instead of just sitting in your base waiting for your acid and oil to process or grinding the same dungeon again and again.
Once Human is the game that lurks my childhood nostalgia.
I know this was two days ago before the aug 1st patch notes but there's more events coming.
I can tell you this as a person that’s been in all the beta’s… that patch won’t fix a lot.
They’re common issues we had all the way back a year ago, the true updates you should be excited for are the end of august ones for the new server infrastructure… but I don’t see them having many players left by then since they are fixing things that aren’t true core issues.
I totally agree with you man, the one and only life service that i still strongly involve myself in is Dayz Standalone. Btw, anyone wanna play modded Dayz some time?
I am enjoying the game so far, but I do not like the idea of the seasonal wipes for sure.
I am a very slow, methodic, horder type player - which is really hard with the toooooo short respawn rates of mobs! :-)
I am one of the guilty ones that has not done any of the public events, but I do not like public, I seem to have the ability to make the wrong chioices in a tight situation and screw things up for others so I avoid them.
I have even tried to watch videos of others playing the event, but when I try to do the same things myself - it all goes to HECK!
So for everyone's sake I stay away from them.
Cant say much for the content lacking yet cause im just in week 2 on a server and ive spent far too much time building instead of questing but the game has a very strong foundation.
It really does! But this season is going to last 6 weeks. Week 1 and 2 were AWESOME. New quests, new areas, new dungeons. Week 3? Just a new difficulty for bosses and dungeons. No new areas, no new events, no new rewards. If this keeps up through week 4, 5 and 6, it's going to be a bit of a letdown content wise.
What I mean is that it feels like they just blew all their content on the first two weeks and the rest is padding. I love building a cool base too, but I can't see myself spending 4 weeks just on that when there's nothing new to do for the rest of the season.
The goal they went with this game is to collect rare to legendary blueprints to keep for next season, and to collect starchroms and mitsuko's mark for gacha and seasonal skins. Im new to survival games but this game feels fine, I think the primary problem with this game aside from incentives, is the goal/objective on why should you play this game.
I'm enjoying the game too but the goal/objective issue is really the main problem. Yeah, we just started as the game just launched and I have no doubt they'll add more stuff to grind/farm for but if it's the only thing they'll be focusing on, I can expect a significant amount of people to fall off in a season or two. I understand that the grind is part of the game and many people even like it, but I don't think it's going to take away from the game or hurt it if they attempt to make the grind more entertaining, varied and fun.
The continues high player count, daily btw, contradicts your view on this game...
I didn't say it's losing players NOW. I'm saying it might lose a significant number if the next season is going to be a repeat of that. Although the new patch does calm some of my worries. They added more ways to gain some resources and more events to come. That's a good sign!
Also week 2 of the wipe is super lack luster, week one is so long that you basically farm all the mats you need, so when week 2 comes around you can get the story and weapons you want in a day. Not to mention you get one new boss for week 2 and the next boss unlocks week 4. I like the idea of locked progression but it seems too extreme. RNG make mods so painful to get. Especially if you want a god roll.
I wish bosses and dungeons would give you a different reward than just any other regular activity, or the opposite. Why would I do any events or bosses when I can go to a dungeon and get the very same reward but in a bigger quantity? It's why people farm dungeons, not bosses. It's not worth it.
I also hate how you can't fix looted weapons. Why even have them?
But yeah, week 1 and 2 were great, since you actually had things to do in them. Granted, you're right that week 2 was lackluster in comparison since pretty much everyone farmed so much in week 1 that they could get the week 2 stuff within a day, but week 3 was abysmal in comparison to that! Just a difficulty upgrade? Come on... if the only thing Week 4 is going to give us is 1 new boss, just 2 more quests and that's it? I'll be pissed.
@@Comrade_Del The first paragraph isn't entirely true, you do want to farm events, silos and monoliths. From events you get controllers and with the most recent update, it's made clear that you can get 3 controllers per day from public events. From silos and monoliths you can target farm mods - silos drop armor mods for specific slots, while monoliths drop weapon mods for specific builds. The only things that aren't worth farming are LEA, the Forsaken Giant and Prime War bosses, since they drop the same amount of loot as pro silos and monoliths but the mods are completely randomized, therefore you can't target farm mods there. The only unique rewards from these places are deviants, but they're not good enough to warrant farming them.
Im sure by the time this game wipes its definitely gonna be a smaller group like fo76. This game only was popular when it released but now we literally lost half of the community because they heard of the season wipe. Only people who will stay are the fans of this type of game imo. They will be games that will come out that people will move on to. Also not everyone can invest in grinding as much esp when they have real life priority's. Game is free and free to move on lol its not like you paid anything.
Events reward controllers, controllers are needed to open loot rewards. Fuel and acid can be gained from the crates you can buy with event currency. I feel like you are missing things. 9 players on your server? I have 22 active right now in just my warband. We need to have a chat I think live.
I feel like you're missing things too :) Video was made before the crates were added to Nissa and besides that... why would you need to do the events anyway when you can farm them? People have set up farms that far outstrip the time and effort required to get a substantial amount of acid and fuel from Nissa. Yeah, you gain controllers... but the loot you get from said rewards has no variety whatsoever and all rewards are basically the same with a few minor exceptions. The only useful thing is Stardust... which can also be farmed if you have the Stardust pump and the ability to craft batteries en masse and if you do that, it renders every single event in the game pretty much worthless if the only thing you're after is Stardust.
And really, looking at one server and using it as the standard for the hundreds of servers out there? Your server is more populated. You got lucky. Mine is less populated. Sucks for me.
With the water pumps and purification, you can make your own acid and a lot of it.
Yeah, it's the current solution but it's a solution that takes time. You need to build a proper base, find a proper location for it (good luck since there's dozens of videos about these locations so people already build bases there) and then have the infrastructure to basically make your base focused on making acid. Yeah, it's viable, it works... but there's also people who don't like doing this kind of stuff, so they're kinda forced into it. Thankfully, there's a couple of annoying alternatives to farm acid.
The main reason for the wipes (and I’m shocked that this isn’t clear to the most People) is to clear the map. How many Players have built a House, stuffed it full with everything they could find. Then Logged off and never came back. So… what do you think makes the servers run worse?
a) Events
b) The Shit ton of stuff random player built, that might never come back though.
It’s not for content, it’s not for balancing, it’s not for getting things fixed. It’s to clear the map of dead players houses. That simple. Nothing more, nothing less.
Especially late game players have large, complex houses with a LOT of stuff in it. All of that slows the servers down. So they wipe it. Why do you think they came up with Eternaland?
You can basically store all of your stuff there and then bring it over to the next season.
There is an event that gives acid and premium gas. Defennding refineries, with the deviant food buff, you can earn 500 acid in 30 mins. This event also gives premium gas.
Yeah, but those require extraction permits... and the drop rate on those is extremely low, so you don't really have a guaranteed way to continue farming this way. I for one already used up my extraction permits and I don't really have much luck with the RNG to get more of them consistently sadly. Ironically, my attempts to get the permits get me more acid than the refinary does! Not so much with premium gas but you get my point. I know it's supposed to be a premium resource but wouldn't it be nice to have a event that maybe gives you like 5-10 premium gas or something? It'll be a consistent way to get the resource, can't really grind it but it will make people excited to participate!
@@Comrade_Del You can loot fuel to make premium fuel from cars on the side of the road. I have 1000s of fuel from running around and looting the cars. Acid is no issue since you can earn about a million e-links an hour at shadow hound. In the server I'm in, acid sells for 60ea. My only issue with the game is the rubber crafting item. No one in my server sells it and i seem to never loot enough of it to repair my armor.
@@Glubbdubdrib Yep, I'm on that rubber grind too as I'm starting to run low... but yeah, right now converting regular fuel to premium one is how I'm doing it. I got like 3000 units of acid by now so it's no big deal and I didn't even grind or wait for it since I just bought it from Nissa.
you keep everything important after the wipes,you keep your blueprints,mods, accessories,other in game currencies except energy links,you only thing lose is your base and level.after the wipe you move to a new part of the map and continue the story, new gear,deviants and bosses.Acid and oil can be farmed.the wipe is a thing so that new people dont feel overwhelmed
I understand the idea, there's no confusion there. What I'm weary about is the execution. Yeah, you get to keep those items... but how many of them are you going to use? How many of them are you ALLOWED to use? You can already see in game that you'll need to pay a specific currency to transfer items from Eternaland to your game. How much currency will you have? How expensive is it going to be? What if they'll make it so you can only transfer a VERY limited amount of items? Honestly, the only way to actually know how it all works is to experience it. Devs can say whatever they want but I'd rather see it with my own eyes before I do a final judgement on it.
These are the same issues we brought up over a year ago. Forced time gates, forced weekly limits on simple things, story progression gated by timers and zones that you can’t even enter without the map trying to kill you…
This is and are the same issues they were warned about… if you think acid and premium fuel is bad now? TRUST ME, you wouldn’t have liked what they forced us to do originally in the beta’s.
You had to play 90% of the game with the crossbow since acid and gun powder drops were very rare. Prime war missiles (biomass) were 25 premium fuel per missile - silvers were 100 premium per missile…
We had 1/10 the starchrom amounts we have now and NO OPTION to buy what you wanted like you can now… they didn’t listen and the plummeting player numbers is evidence enough
I'm really hoping that they'll actually use what they learned from the beta but... who knows. I'm glad to see them adding more events to the game but honestly, I'm already betting the rewards are going to be the same ones as anything else. The latest event they added, which is a level 50 event just gives you some stardust and that item you can use to farm starchrom. Nothing unique, nothing special. Very little incentive. Again, why would I go to this event to look for stardust, waste thousands of bullets, like 10-15 minutes of my life when I can run a dungeon in 2-3 minutes and get like 10 times more?
@@Comrade_Del the problem with them “adding more events” is that they don’t advertise them as what they are. Look at highway pursuit, they made it look awesome and fun, instead we get an on rails follow sim… and the drops absolutely suck and aren’t even what they showed off… people are putting up with the bait and switch anymore
@@jsullivan649 It goes back to the problem I pointed out. Incentives. The event isn't out yet so I'm hoping, probably pointlessly, that they might do something different with it but knowing how everything is done so far... it's probably the same rewards than all the other events give. Still, more stuff to do, I guess... for a day or two before everyone gets bored with it.
@@Comrade_Del highway pursuit is always out, been out for awhile
The time gated system will filter out some of the sweaty players. It's a game for the casuals.
Yep, I'm a casual player which is why more content is needed. I honestly don't have the patience and will to grind the same dungeon again and again and again for some mats.
It's still early though, only been like 3 weeks so I'm hoping the devs got plans for it! But first impressions are important and it doesn't really feel like they went all out with their first season, which is arguably the best time to go all out to hook everyone into the game.
You're not playing casually then. You're almost min maxing.
@@aesieaiyahcloe Nah, I don't think I'm anywhere near min maxing. I don't try to make a specialized broken build. I just got a weapon I liked, upgraded it and play the game. I don't got a base designed to get 100+ acid an hour like some other players have nor do I grind the same dungeon for 3 hours to have a surplus of mats. I just want to run around and have more stuff to do xD
i hate the fact that we cant play with friend because all the server are full
My buddies and I solved it by all logging in at the same time and joining a server at the exact same time
They suck and don't care about fixing the issues they cause.
thank god this game is free cause im getting bored of the cut and paste effect of this game
Honestly the lack of new content between phases does the same to a lot of people. I could put hours into the game but I honestly don't have much to do in the game beyond grinding for an hour or two and quitting until later.
PPL always complain, show me 1 mmo where ppl are super satisfied with the game, it doesnt exist, I also dont like the wipes idea and this is the reason I dont play this game even tho I like it.
You're right on the money there! You literally CAN'T please everyone so someone will always complain! My complains are honestly nitpicks. I understand that this is basically a live service game and they never just give you all content at once... but I don't really have to like it, right? And I don't. I just want more content and more verienty and incentive between the phases, that's all. Heck, they might already have a plan to do just that! I just think it's silly to hold back at a time where they need to show their best to keep the players hooked.
Most of the games will be boring for someone who can play 15 hour's daily. I'm working 8 hours, 5 day's a week and I don't even have enough time to finish all i need in phase one. I can safely say, that I won't discover everything game has to offer right now, even on second cycle. Once human had a pretty successful start, it's hard to believe that they are not planning to add more stuff and event's. And what's most important, cycle just started, it's end of the phase 1, not a lot of game studios revealing their updates month early
Well, just because I'm a youtuber/streamer doesn't mean I got 15 hours a day to play. I'm on that 9-5 grind too since a guy's gotta eat and pay the bills. So even with investing 2-4 hours a day into this game, I got through the vast majority of the content the game had by day 3 of week 2 and I didn't even need to rush through it. Did it all at a chill, leisurely pace.
But yes, the game is definitely had a succesful start. I still recall how I had to literally walk 10 minutes to find an open spot on the starting area in my server because it was so populated. But I'm already seeing a severe drop of people on my server and most people don't even bother with the Prime War anymore because by their own words, it's not worth the hassle and lost resources to do more than once. Yeah, it's only phase one as you said and we just started out, but at the same time, it sets the tone for how things would be done and I really want to see what they do next... but I just hope it's not more of the same.
@@Comrade_Del Which is weird tho, because there's 130/145k average player count on steam, I don't know how it exactly work bcs there's different servers, worlds and all that crap, new servers keep getting added. I started playing around last weekend on the newest server and the majority of the time there were people on almost every location/ time event etc. Then I noticed that before the new cycle it was a lot less crowded, which is kinda logical in cycle type game I guess, you just take the perfect available spot for base and keep grinding the most important materials.
@@Comrade_Del They had super long beta and still keeping top ish playerbase on steam. Ofc if they won't make improvements and enhance gameplay then 80% playerbase gonna drop pretty fast. But if that's their end product after such success for a free game, then it's a shame because so far I'm having a blast 😌
@@DankChucle Honestly, if you've seen the latest update patch notes, it really removes a lot of my worries! They added new ways for some of the events to be more useful and added incentives to participate in them. Don't get me wrong, I'm having a blast too! I love this game! But I just feel that them holding a lot of the content and their ideas back simply because you need to keep stuff back because it's a live service game is not the best choice they could've done. I'm of the opinion that first impressions are important and that they needed to blow our minds. The first two weeks did that but I can tell they decided to take it slow for the rest of the season. Most likely because they're focusing on actual fixes and optimization.
@@DankChucle If think it feels a lot less crowded because people moved away from the central area. With the map opening up, people started spreading around so it feels less crowded. But I just noticed that there's a lot less people online on my server at least. Could be many reasons. Maybe they switched servers to play with friends since we don't have character migration (which is a bummer in my opinion) I don't want to start a new character if I want to play with friends from other regions :(
I tried the GOTCHA machine because thats what I was told is the only way to really upgrade your weapons or armor....over 5k spent and I got nothing I could use,pissed me off but I moved on and tried to help a hive mate build a farm and after a full day of building and setting up the ground was only giving polluted water so we had to move her and I took that spot and when I set up an acid farm and put my pumps down all I got was dirty water...I moved the pumps up and down raised them up and still all I got was dirty water...WTF
Yeah, finding spots is finicky. I just checked recommended spots on youtube and used that haha
@Comrade_Del it's just very odd I set up in the exact same spot and got totally different resource...that and losing 5k pretty much ended it for me as I won't be playing it till the gotcha machine isn't the main way to upgrade.
@@ShadowKingRecks Yeah, I would love the devs to add alternative ways to get BP fragments because yeah, you need A LOT of Starchrom to upgrade a single legendary weapon...
this guys clueless lol
How many hours a day have u been playing? U run out of content if u burn threw it quickly no living the game is a common problem I see people run into. I play at most 4 hours a day and I still have not run out of things to do. There is plenty of content in the game in my opinion.
Honestly, I play just about the same amount. With maybe a bit more on days off from work. As I've said, I basically completed all the quests and sidequests by day 3 of week 2... and since then I've just been working on my base, farming tools and maybe random loot crates and so on. Yeah, it's still stuff to do but if we're looking at actually content, it's a bit of a bad look when your season lasts 6 weeks but all your content is only for week 1 and 2.
lol the rant is silly. Zoom out of the map and you will understand why the 6 week wipe is needed. and that we gain access to a new region in the new season. Clearly you need to read about more information on the things the developers has planned. And BTQ Fallout 76 is shit
It IS silly, but it's just that. A silly rant. I've read everything the devs have said and I followed every announcement and explanation but first impressions are important and so far to me it seems that they just blew their load on the first two phases of the season and the rest is just a frankly boring difficulty upgrade without anything else.
Does it mean it'll be the same the next season? No! I know they'll expand the map in the next season and give us new areas and new quests to explore and many new things and honestly that's what's keeping me in the game. I want to see more! But is there a guarantee that the next season won't work the same way? As in all the content is going to come in the first 2-3 phases and the rest is just going to be a difficulty upgrade? Again, I'm not complaining about the wipe. In fact, I think it'll make the game intersting... IF the new season is going to have more content spread out between the phases instead of just being all bunched up at the start.
And Fallout 76 does some things better and some things worse! To each their own!
@@Comrade_Del True I agree with you there. for the first impressions I mean
lol stupid rant
its a mobile game. and its more boring than most.
It's actually a pc game that's coming to mobile
lol, game is BARELY an mmo. and the prime war should not have good rewards at all since its gated to only pve servers (for shitters)
Dude if you do things right you will have unlimited amount of acid and fuel... I build a base in cool place from start and now my base already prodused 50k acid and 25k premfuel... And yes i produce about 100 biomissiles every day... Stardust is the problem for me😅
Yeah, that's valid but I don't bother going THAT hard on the passive farming lol. I still want to have stuff to do! I got my tiny farm and I get my tiny amount which is honestly enough for me :D