10K in a week is crazy 💀 appreciate y’all fr Edit: Fully upgraded cars with a different track and completely different results here: th-cam.com/video/QxwOuFS36UY/w-d-xo.html Edit 2: Testing fully upgraded cars + junkman parts + manual transmission here: th-cam.com/video/fvcfT16qPOQ/w-d-xo.html
@@taniakadam I second this. It's so good I actually beat almost every other NFS game it had it. In Rivals, I am the record owner in every race with it...
@@yakuzariv Streamer and a speedrunner. Used to have a WR beating NFS MW. He also beat the entire game with a stock golf. I much recommend checking out his channel.
Can't believe RX-8 is that slow in this game. When I was young, I used to pick it up and upgrade it, selling Golf, because it looked way cooler than some white-blue hatchback
@@Joseph86__ it's amazing with junkmans (but then what car isn't, it's an aspect I liked in this OG MW the most, you can have a good time in any car, nowadays it's that bullshit tiered system in every game, I hate it....)
Apparently when one opens up Vlt-ed, the RX-8 is inexplicably much heavier than it should. It weighs like 1.6K kg in-game despite weighing 1310 kg IRL.
Alternatively; he should feel some embarrassment. Dude built a car that can perform 4 places higher then where he is but he is only at 15. Dude can build but he can't drive yet lol.
Just because Sonny is at the bottom of the blacklist, doesn't mean his car is the worst, because its proven to be very useful early in the game. Razor was originally at the bottom, because he actually isn't that good of a racer. That's why he set you up, so he can take your ride and use it to make his way to the top. After all, the BMW was so good, he wouldn't have stood a chance without it!
a tip for anyone who wants to get all the pink slips guarranteed. when you get to the first set of markers pick one at random. if it's not the pink slip restart the playthrough until you get the first pink slip. 2nd pink slip will always be one marker over. so if the first pink slip was the first marker than the 2nd pink slip will be the 2nd marker, 3rd pink slip on the 3rd marker, 4th pink slip on the 1st marker again and repeat the pattern throughout the whole blacklist. but super important, this only works if you play through the game without exiting. otherwise the patern will randomize and you might miss a pink slip. the pattern will remain the same but you won't know which marker has the next pink slip
@@fadishdog yeah funnily enough i've discovered it thanks to my obsesive compulsive disorder where i like ordered numbers, so whenever presented with a choice among several objects i always pick them in order. my first playthrough i picked the first marker and the pink slip was there. i thought it was just luck at first and then at the second blacklister i chose the second marker and the pink slip was also there, and then the third too and so on. 4th pink where i chose the 1st marker again i realized it was a pattern
@@Xcarbonizer I think this won't work if you have the 1.3 patch, at least if you reload the save. What I mean is, with the 1.3 patch, I beat a blacklist boss, memorised the place, and the next day when I loaded the save to beat the next one, the order wasn't like you mentioned. What I did instead was install NFS MW Extra Options and give myself 4 markers to choose from.
@@vladandrei1996 that's why i mentioned it's SUPER IMPORTANT that you need to play through the game in one sitting for the pattern to work all the way. if you reload a save the next pink slip will be randomised among the three markers but the pattern stays the same for the following blacklisters if you manage to guess the correct marker for the current blacklister you reloaded your save on
@Xcarbonizer are you sure? because this is the pink slip slot of my current playthrough up to Jewels. 2 1 3 1 2 1 2 1. What I noticed is that I won't be getting the same pink slip slot in a row, and only that. And I quit the game as I normally would. And people seem to be agreeing with this on KuruHS channel.
15. IS 300 - Heavy and doesnt have 6th Gear 14. Rx-8 - A rotary engine but slow and slippery 13. Supra - Fair power but weak in cornering 12. Eclipse - Slow acceleration and heavy to drive 11. Golf GTI - Quite fast and fair steering 10. Mustang GT - Fair power but heavy 9. CLK - 500 - Fast but heavy and slippery 8. Evo Viii - Fast but doesnt have 6th Gear 7. Cayman S - Fast, good cornering but slippery 6. DB9 - Fast but not on full power and heavy 5. Gallardo - Quick Acceleration but weak on cornering 4. C6 - Fast, good on cornering almost no issue 3. Viper SRT10 - Great power, light to drive but sometimes slippery 2. SLR McLaren - Fast but weak braking 1. M3 GTR - Power, Handling, Cornering Overall perfect
Supra corners and handles like an absolute CHAMP if you tune +5 Steering, +2 Handling, +2 Brakes and +5 Aerodynamics. This is my basic tune for all cars in the game for absolute greatness. I won't add the +2 Handling for any cars that don't want to oversteer/drift in corners by default. And for any cars (like the RX-7) with a REALLY tall 5th gear I will add +3 or +4 Turbo/Supercharger depending on feel to move boost up higher into the rev range - otherwise it's impossible to get out of 5th gear and reach top speed before running out of road.
It did. Also good speed overall. The Carrera GT was the car I did most of the high-level pursuit challenges with for that reason. It was the only car that I could reliably stay ahead of the corvette cops with, and Cross.
I find this particularly interesting because I did the same test on a different track, the rosewood center KO lap, yet got very different results. Appreciate the testing vid!
Definitely not the worst car in the game lmao. The GTO/Monaro is dogwater, so is the (breaks my heart to say it because it's my dream car) Murcielago because it handles like a truck with no power-steering. That CTS is also garbo, The Camaro from the Blacklist Challenge Series race is abysmal too. The CLK can really hold it's own if you tune the performance right. The mustang even with full junkmans and a proper performance tune is a turd.
Bro I couldn’t choose, I love them all equally. Whenever I played I’d use the previous rivals car to beat the next person. Like an imaginary power move.
Supra is a severly under-rated beast.. you can practically complete the entire series with that car. The only car I ever rated above it was Bull's Merc
I just did my 12th play-through with just the Supra ;D It is an absolute missile that defies physics in the handling department if you tune it right in the menu! I took Sonny's pinkslip + unique performance part, then basically just spent all my marker selections after beating each blacklist member on unique performance parts for the rest of the game (apart from Vic lol, I needed his Supra) so that I could have a full Junkman Supra by the time I beat Ronnie. Supra with full Junkman parts is stupidly fast, and handles like a dream while sounding amazing too. I even styled it as close as possible to Paul Walker's Supra from the OG Fast and the Furious. All it took in the performance tuning menu was +5 Steering, +2 Handling, +2 Brakes & +5 Aerodynamics to get it handling like the Gallardo.
@@keyden7732 unfortunately i don't record the race because,i don't record it man, anyway i just use keyboards with manual transmission,manual gear sometime become faster
@@16boinadhif can you tell me how to do that Cars Steer more cause on the speedrun attenpts i see dude like laser-lining , and me that also have same setup can’t even reach 75% of the Radius that he becomes, And I am 100% sure that you must know the answer cause man i mean you cut 2s from my time XD
I love the fact that you used for background sound an OST from NFS Porsche Unleashed. I once did in 2011 an excel file ranking all cars from NFS Porsche with all upgrades in Evolution Mode. I used track Monte Carlo 3. I considered it the best for high speed, cornering and braking. Still have that file!
Jewel's Mustang really shines in police pursuits methinks. I don't know if the weight of the cars really means anything in this game but it feels like I gain so much momentum with this car when I'm trying to ram into a police car, be it a Crown Vic or a Corvette.
Weight does matter. The Elise is one of the fastest overall vehicles in the game but is a complete liability in pursuits as it cannot just punch through roadblocks or handle being pushed around well like most vehicles can.
@@Joseph86__I got an unbelievable 40 minute pursuit with the Gallardo once… I only got caught because my Xbox lagged and I ran right into spike strips… my normal 5 heat pursuits usually don’t last more than a few minutes because my Carrera GT gets thrown around by heavy SUVs
Pretty suprising results, when I was a kid Kazes CLK was one of my favourite blacklist cars. Drove it a heap after winning it, and I beat the game using the DB9, not Ronnies, but my own I bought as soon as I unlocked it (I loved Astons, and still do). I never really liked the Viper, or the SLR Mclaren, both of which I won.
Corvette was always my heartbeat of the entire game. There was no tollbooth or speedtrap race I couldn't win with it. And in most cases, due to the fact that I've completed MW a total of 9 times, this was the easiest car to reace against Razor, especially for the 4th event (3-lap circuit). I loved it!
The funny thing is that in real life, the 950hp blitz supra did a 07:49 min lap record on the nurburgring, which is the same time as the 300hp club sport golf gti
I wanted to try in highway. So I tested the same in city perimeter circuit. - default blacklist car - no nitro - no tuning Below are rankings based on my personal best with each car Circuit time in seconds: 1. Razor - 96.6 2. Webster - 101.2 3. Bull - 101.8 4. Ming - 102.7 5. JV - 104.8 6. Ronnie - 109.2 7. Baron - 109.6 8. Earl - 115.3 9. Kaze - 116.0 10. Jewel - 117.2 11. Vic - 120.1 12. Big lou - 120.6 13. Izzy - 121.1 14. Sony - 122.2 15. Taz - 129.4
Another interesting fact is that the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, next to the Mercedes SLR McLaren, has the best acceleration in the game after tuning to the maximum (ultimate parts).
@@adamkowalski5177 you honestly can’t go wrong with either. My favorite part was playing with friends but while everyone was using end game cars I was beating them with the Golf😂
Its handicapped early in the game due to the 5 speed, like the cobalt. But once you get the last transmission upgrade it transforms starter cars into missiles. 😂
I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Golf does. I recently re-discovered the game and am now doing a playthrough where I pretty much beat every Black List racer with it ( It's totally not because I drive that one IRL, no sir, I'm not biased at all) :P
Thanks a lot bro I remember having this games disc back in the day when I was like 6 but never really downloading it I was playing other old need for speeds so I’m doing my first playthrough rn and I really needed this and I also really liked the way you explained the cars thanks dawg 🙏
@@steelwix well Rog did say that Sonny was pretty new to the Blacklist at the time of challenging him so maybe he didn’t have time to move up before the player beat him (that’s my headcanon anyway)
Earl's evo viii is my favourite since the first time I played nfs mw, the evo is so reliable especially for the bounty, the handling is amazing not too slippery, even though there's some understeer & lack of top speed & the 6th gear felt so heavy, but for the overall for me the evo is the best
It always pays to get Sonny's pink slip early in the game, just to have an advantage with the first few blacklist racers. as cars and parts tend to be very expensive, when you consider the income you get from races.
I remember turning off the autosave just to get Ronnie DB9 back then, yes it is a little heavy but when you upgrade it to full junkman and doing bit performance setting it feels like rocket + DB9 kinda underrated
Every time I played the game,, i beat the whole blacklist with, Cobalt SS ✔ Lexus IS 300 ✔ Lancer Evo ✔ CLK 500 ✔ And right now I'm trying to get to number one with a Supra. The handling of the CLK requires quite a bit of concentration and attention, but with the full tuning package and parts from Junkman, the top speed is so amazing that at 340 km/h, you'd still be revving up the revs, there just aren't any long stretches of road in the game that you can drive through unimpeded. The acceleration can also get brutal towards the end of the game. When I got my M3 back, I felt like I was driving a car with a very degraded performance :D What's kind of ridiculous is that no matter what race I was in, the most despicable NPC opponent cars were; Golf 5, Renault, Fiat..... these 3 completely average cars could always beat me. 😂
For me JV's Viper, Ming's Gallardo, Baron's Porsche and Earl's Evo are my favourites in the blacklist due to how great they feel and I used these 4 in my recent play through beating Razor with Viper.
interesting video! I wouldve like it though if you did multiple runs for each car (in case you didnt) or explain your thought process for the challenge; like why you'd choose the track (maybe because its a mix between high speed low speed and medium speed for example) just to have a well rounded challenge, and multiple runs to get a consistent result
@@justanotherforsenboy1651 yeah I did multiple runs off camera and chose Ironwood Estates because imo it was the perfect balance between high speed and corners :)
Handling in general was more challenging on most wanted than any other NFS speed game I've played so I expected these comments on the handling but I agree with most of your comments and good video man.
Really? Most Wanted has absurd levels of traction. Have you played Carbon? Carbon is pretty hardcore for some car tiers and classes (exotics in the canyon, yikes).
@omegarodent765 Yeah I played Carbon after Most Wanted and for the most part they had the same feel. Coming from underground 1 and 2 the new feel wasn't welcomed especially when it came to the lacking of customization options.
Once I was playing the game and racing the blacklist racers, I still remember I didn't had a very good luck so i wasn't able to get most of the rival's cars including the cayman and gallardo. I still purchased them manually with the money i saved by doing all the blacklist races because they were my favorites.
Bro I would just turn the power to my PS2 off at the wall and re-challenge the rival until I got their pink slip lmao. I was taking their car and there was no way they could avoid it. The game wouldn't autosave if you didn't progress past the marker selection screen. #abuse haha. The Cars I didn't use I sold.
I wonder if there's a way to handle these tests a little more scientifically, like running multiple laps and taking the best time from each batch (unless you did that off-camera and I wasn't paying attention. That's most likely the case). It's too bad there's no easy way to make your own tracks like Broughy did in GTA5 so he could properly run cars through their paces. But you did give insight into how each car feels, and removing variables in Most Wanted without basically crafting your own mods for the job is nigh impossible, so the methodology was never going to be perfect. And hey, you didn't just put them through a drag race and call it a day, so you definitely get points for that. You worked with what you had, and you did well. I always found it funny that blacklist racers with worse cars somehow ended up higher on the blacklist (but then again, the blacklist is about police notoriety as much as it's about racing, so that's always something to consider).
Man, you don’t know what you’re missing with Manual Transmission on some of these cars! Not only do they go faster and have more MPH/KMH overall but they’re easier to control in turns and you get a feel for the best speeds to enter turns with in some of these cars. Especially #15’s Golf, which goes from ho-hum and reliable to a contender for the best car up until JV’s Viper (or Bull’s McLaren SLR) if you stay consistent with upgrades 👍🏽 It even makes cars that handle horribly a lot easier to manage once you get used to downshifting and upshifting rapidly in & out of turns. Ronnie’s Aston Martin DB9 become above average in Manual as well, which is crazy since it’s the least “cool” of the Supercars you can unlock due to how lame it looks and feels to handle in Automatic
I liked the oid design where you can beat the game in any car. Gunning a lowly Fiat Punto to 225 MPH when fully upgraded was cool AF. This game is as close to perfection in terms of arcade racing as you can get. The only thing sorely missing from it is a damage model on cars. Cars are made of unobtanium and even ramming a hard object at 200 MPH doesn't even produce a single scratch.
if you have need for speed shift 2 would you rank all of the free cars in the game? (basically everything thats just rewarded to you such as special builds of cars from defeating people in events like the nissan gt-r or mazda rx-7 to the cars given to you such as some special cars like the drift alliance 240sx you get beating the drift tutorial or the cars you get for reaching a certain level, basically the free cars that cant be bought from the dealership for $0)
I used a gallardo to beat razor, its not ming's gallardo but the car that I PURCHASED in the car shop. It was that easy to beat razor but hard to get to the blacklist
I literally crushed everyone with the Punto. It's like having a toy car equipped with a plane engine because it's just so light I can drive around corners without the need to brake, just foot off the gas. It's amazing.
Ronnie's DB9 is underrated in terms of design because of it's "KISS ME IM IRISH." It looks so good. His car looks one of the best because his vinyl is unique. But the car's performance isn't good for its price. Baron's Cayman S is easily the best blacklist car for playthrough. It's also good all-around. Beating Earl for the first time is hard without having a good car like the Cayman S. It's good until you get Ming's Lambo. Ming's Lambo has full upgrades(even the ones that you'll unlock after beating Ronnie). Ming's Lambo is better than Baron's Cayman until Blacklist 3. For Blacklist 2, the Cayman is better. Or you can just get the fastest car, Carrera GT. Bull's SLR has good performance but I wish they kept his beta vinyl. For me, his car looks one of the worst because it's a lazy stock design. If they kept the beta vinyl, his car would look really good.
But when it comes to blacklist races, I felt beating Ronnie was harder than 2 and 1 when I was a kid playing the game in 2007 for the first time, Maybe it was ok purpose since his ai was too ap already
Bull's car is a fucking sleeper. If you look it on the outside you'll see the body kit is stock. No modifications. But if you look inside his SLR, it's fully upgraded. LMAO
How do you do the tests? Cuz there's no way RX8 is considered slow. Any time I've checked it against a car I've won in a pinkslip felt so much worse than the RX, no aftermarkets used and both upgraded after getting to next level. Do you drive on neutral adjustments or smfn?
A lot of the understeer issues isn’t weight, it’s the drive wheels. FWD and AWD will understeer. The Mercedes is very heavy, which makes it decelerate slower and leads to understeer.
This one with the iconic P60B40 motor is the exact car built by BMW to compete in the ALMS GT Series iirc, not DTM technically. Yes I wanna see the fully tuned version too :) Thanks OP. I wish the M3 GTR was tunable in game - at least from the pause menu so I can tweak handling and the NOS. Or that we can upgrade it at the shop but only have the option to and add a Supercharger:D
I mean, not only is the the M3 the coolest car in the game, but it's just a straight up ALMS GT car with a license plate on it. 😅 Realistically, it would take ALOT to beat that with a street car. Just like the corvette C6.R that you can use in free races, they SHOULD be on a totally different level than everything else the game has to offer just on principle alone! 🤘
as far as i know is the devs fucked up the turbo of the golf, the stock is stronger than the ultimate one which means you dont need to upgrade the turbo at any point and save a bit money and the clk 500 is overall the worst car in the game
So on my first playthrough (I was 8 at the time) which I still remember even after almost 20 fcking years now... WOW... well, 18 to be exact but its been almost 20 yrs since this game... wow... Anyway, so I still remember how I moved forward with cars..... I failed to get the Golf which was a missed opportunity which I realized on my second playthrough, so my loyal SS managed to get me the Supra which I used till Baron. Unlocking the Cayman was a game changer, I easily managed until Ming with upgrading the Cayman and the only reason I switched to the Lambo was bcz I love the Gallardo which I used until I beat Bull.... For Razor I actually used the Murcielago... I was 8 at the time and born in the late 90s... I am sorry for liking my Lambos.... LOL... Also I did use other cars in between as well, the RX-8 for the handling in some drag races, the Evo 8 for some sprints and the SLR for some drag races as well... I did use a lot of different cars for the bounties though, even the horrendous Jewel's Mustang and Kaze's CLK which sucked even after the upgrades... It was an experience, I played MW exclusively for more than a year, using every car combo imaginable to beat the Blacklist... Those were the times...
TBH I have played every edition of most wanted, on PC and PS2, Ming's Gallardo should be at number 2 because that thing made the game so easy once I got it, it felt like the difficulty level was changed or something.
the golf is the best car. fully upgraded it can do really good speeds, great handling and it is a heavier car that can crash the cops easy. its just a great jack of all trades car that you can play from the start to the final race
I always started with a is300 or cobalt then got Taz car used it until baron then used the Porsche until Ming then his Lambo pretty much finished the game for me unless I wanted to switch it up with the corvette or viper. Also occasionally used the RX-8, Supra, Evo, and Mustang.
U should max out the performance parts with the junkman unique upgrade, and then test the lap time so that it really comes down to the individual car at the same performance level
Fully upgraded AND TUNED; driven by a skilled driver, its the Lotus Elise And the Porsche Carerra GT. No other car comes close to these two! My best time around the Hastings circuit (Longest circuit in the game.) 3:02.## Carrera GT. The lotus is less than a second slower.
The M3 GTR's acceleration slaps for a NA car bro 👀 Any other car in the game with no forced induction upgrade is dog slow in comparison lmao. Handling could be improved though.
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10K in a week is crazy 💀 appreciate y’all fr
Edit: Fully upgraded cars with a different track and completely different results here:
th-cam.com/video/QxwOuFS36UY/w-d-xo.html
Edit 2: Testing fully upgraded cars + junkman parts + manual transmission here:
th-cam.com/video/fvcfT16qPOQ/w-d-xo.html
I’m a weirdo too, I drive better with keyboard!
@ nice to see another fellow keyboard weirdo 😎
Ming's Lamborghini is my favorite of the blacklist cars
Yeah! That single car is enough to beat the whole game
No wonder,overall nice car with max(aside from lvl1 nitrous) tuning
@@platinumchromee3191 Yes ikr 🥰👌🏻
My favourite also!
@@taniakadam I second this. It's so good I actually beat almost every other NFS game it had it. In Rivals, I am the record owner in every race with it...
9:37 that was never razor's car that was MY car
Razor make some upgrades to the car didn't he? I don't remember...
As a wise man once said, "The Golf is Better"
~kuruhs
@@felixfr1015WHO is kuru? Like completely 😂
@@yakuzariv A Master Of Driving GOLF GTI [Stock]
@@yakuzariv Streamer and a speedrunner. Used to have a WR beating NFS MW. He also beat the entire game with a stock golf. I much recommend checking out his channel.
@@yakuzariv if you don't know you must not watch racing game related stuff
Can't believe RX-8 is that slow in this game. When I was young, I used to pick it up and upgrade it, selling Golf, because it looked way cooler than some white-blue hatchback
@@AR3Q Izzy’s RX8 still does look cool for whatever it’s worth tho lol
@@Joseph86__ it's amazing with junkmans (but then what car isn't, it's an aspect I liked in this OG MW the most, you can have a good time in any car, nowadays it's that bullshit tiered system in every game, I hate it....)
Apparently when one opens up Vlt-ed, the RX-8 is inexplicably much heavier than it should. It weighs like 1.6K kg in-game despite weighing 1310 kg IRL.
I beat the game with it
Is there an rx 8 in nfs heat?
That sonny guy would be real proud to see himself on 11 than 15. I came here thinking he’ll be the 15th one
Alternatively; he should feel some embarrassment. Dude built a car that can perform 4 places higher then where he is but he is only at 15. Dude can build but he can't drive yet lol.
@@MrSourceMan TBF Rog States In A Voice Message He's Fresh On The Blacklist So He Probably Hasn't Had The Chance To Challenge Other Members
Just because Sonny is at the bottom of the blacklist, doesn't mean his car is the worst, because its proven to be very useful early in the game.
Razor was originally at the bottom, because he actually isn't that good of a racer. That's why he set you up, so he can take your ride and use it to make his way to the top. After all, the BMW was so good, he wouldn't have stood a chance without it!
The fact that the golf did better than the other 4 cars without NOS and turbo shows how amazing it is.
@@leksraj9888 It's totally worth getting the pinkslip from Sonny, just to get the best of the starter cars!
a tip for anyone who wants to get all the pink slips guarranteed. when you get to the first set of markers pick one at random. if it's not the pink slip restart the playthrough until you get the first pink slip. 2nd pink slip will always be one marker over. so if the first pink slip was the first marker than the 2nd pink slip will be the 2nd marker, 3rd pink slip on the 3rd marker, 4th pink slip on the 1st marker again and repeat the pattern throughout the whole blacklist. but super important, this only works if you play through the game without exiting. otherwise the patern will randomize and you might miss a pink slip. the pattern will remain the same but you won't know which marker has the next pink slip
Is this real? Would’ve been goated 14 yrs ago
@@fadishdog yeah funnily enough i've discovered it thanks to my obsesive compulsive disorder where i like ordered numbers, so whenever presented with a choice among several objects i always pick them in order. my first playthrough i picked the first marker and the pink slip was there. i thought it was just luck at first and then at the second blacklister i chose the second marker and the pink slip was also there, and then the third too and so on. 4th pink where i chose the 1st marker again i realized it was a pattern
@@Xcarbonizer I think this won't work if you have the 1.3 patch, at least if you reload the save. What I mean is, with the 1.3 patch, I beat a blacklist boss, memorised the place, and the next day when I loaded the save to beat the next one, the order wasn't like you mentioned.
What I did instead was install NFS MW Extra Options and give myself 4 markers to choose from.
@@vladandrei1996 that's why i mentioned it's SUPER IMPORTANT that you need to play through the game in one sitting for the pattern to work all the way. if you reload a save the next pink slip will be randomised among the three markers but the pattern stays the same for the following blacklisters if you manage to guess the correct marker for the current blacklister you reloaded your save on
@Xcarbonizer are you sure? because this is the pink slip slot of my current playthrough up to Jewels. 2 1 3 1 2 1 2 1.
What I noticed is that I won't be getting the same pink slip slot in a row, and only that. And I quit the game as I normally would. And people seem to be agreeing with this on KuruHS channel.
JV's Viper is an absolute beast. I got into a 5-6 star chase and excaped and drove to the Safe house with all 4 tires blown out!
Earl's Second Sprint is always painful :)
Thooght I was the only one 🤣
honestly, its not that hard even back then i beat him in at least 2 tries and sometimes first try
15. IS 300 - Heavy and doesnt have 6th Gear
14. Rx-8 - A rotary engine but slow and slippery
13. Supra - Fair power but weak in cornering
12. Eclipse - Slow acceleration and heavy to drive
11. Golf GTI - Quite fast and fair steering
10. Mustang GT - Fair power but heavy
9. CLK - 500 - Fast but heavy and slippery
8. Evo Viii - Fast but doesnt have 6th Gear
7. Cayman S - Fast, good cornering but slippery
6. DB9 - Fast but not on full power and heavy
5. Gallardo - Quick Acceleration but weak on cornering
4. C6 - Fast, good on cornering almost no issue
3. Viper SRT10 - Great power, light to drive but sometimes slippery
2. SLR McLaren - Fast but weak braking
1. M3 GTR - Power, Handling, Cornering Overall perfect
Supra corners and handles like an absolute CHAMP if you tune +5 Steering, +2 Handling, +2 Brakes and +5 Aerodynamics.
This is my basic tune for all cars in the game for absolute greatness. I won't add the +2 Handling for any cars that don't want to oversteer/drift in corners by default. And for any cars (like the RX-7) with a REALLY tall 5th gear I will add +3 or +4 Turbo/Supercharger depending on feel to move boost up higher into the rev range - otherwise it's impossible to get out of 5th gear and reach top speed before running out of road.
porsche unleashed and import tuner challenge soundtrack, based af
Finally someone ranked these cars based on performance
"There is a reason that Razor got to number 1, and trust me it's not because his a good driver."
the burn🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
LMAO
Brother was #15 in the blacklist until he got the BMW M3
@@Volcanicthebedwarssweat how did he get the bmw?
@@0xcoffee427 It is in the prologue races. The final one of them where he cheats and wins
M3 the fastest in blacklist
But not in the game
Porsche Carrera gt in mw had an impressive handling
My personal experience
It did. Also good speed overall.
The Carrera GT was the car I did most of the high-level pursuit challenges with for that reason. It was the only car that I could reliably stay ahead of the corvette cops with, and Cross.
@@Eye_Of_Odin978Bull should had driven that car instead of his McLaren
yeah bro i agree, but hes talkin abt blacklist cars only
I find this particularly interesting because I did the same test on a different track, the rosewood center KO lap, yet got very different results. Appreciate the testing vid!
I’d definitely be willing to test this again with different tracks/fully upgraded cars!
Kaze's car look so cool. It's a shame that the CLK-500 is the worst car in the game.
true but I gotta give credit where it’s due, somehow she made it to #7 above Earl in that shitbox
I mean, her bio DOES say that she's crazy!
@@Sh4dowgaleThe first sentence😂
Definitely not the worst car in the game lmao. The GTO/Monaro is dogwater, so is the (breaks my heart to say it because it's my dream car) Murcielago because it handles like a truck with no power-steering. That CTS is also garbo, The Camaro from the Blacklist Challenge Series race is abysmal too. The CLK can really hold it's own if you tune the performance right. The mustang even with full junkmans and a proper performance tune is a turd.
@@hagridsbeardguy1399 The Murcielago is a top 3 car in the game what are you on
JV's Viper always went hard to the point where I made a bootleg in The Crew.
FY Ubisoft.
Always loved his car. The sound, the graphics, how it drives, everything.
but yeah it’s 🖕Ubisoft
My guy just straight roasted Razor for placing #1 on the blacklist. 💀
@@willy.1369 he’s only there because he’s using my car 😂
The reason Lou's Eclipse slightly understeers more than Izzy L's RX 8 is because its FWD
Bro I couldn’t choose, I love them all equally. Whenever I played I’d use the previous rivals car to beat the next person. Like an imaginary power move.
This is awesome! Loved the quick quips about each car.
Websters Vette was always my favorite 😍
Solid Ranking if possible could you ranking all of those cars again but this time its max upgraded (ultimate/junkman up to you) + tuned
@@devolzre sure! Love your content btw 💪
@@Joseph86__ eyy thanks man
the IS300 is amazing when it is Fully Upgraded.
it is heavy and has great handling great against cops, also is fast with and without junkmans
Cool video! I appreciate Carbon music at the end!
Supra is a severly under-rated beast.. you can practically complete the entire series with that car. The only car I ever rated above it was Bull's Merc
I agree it’s pretty good, I used it to get all the way to Webster without upgrading it further
I just did my 12th play-through with just the Supra ;D It is an absolute missile that defies physics in the handling department if you tune it right in the menu!
I took Sonny's pinkslip + unique performance part, then basically just spent all my marker selections after beating each blacklist member on unique performance parts for the rest of the game (apart from Vic lol, I needed his Supra) so that I could have a full Junkman Supra by the time I beat Ronnie. Supra with full Junkman parts is stupidly fast, and handles like a dream while sounding amazing too. I even styled it as close as possible to Paul Walker's Supra from the OG Fast and the Furious. All it took in the performance tuning menu was +5 Steering, +2 Handling, +2 Brakes & +5 Aerodynamics to get it handling like the Gallardo.
I got
Sonny 55.07
Taz 58.27
Vic 54.80
Izzy 54.80 *xD*
Big Lou 54.93
Baron 50.49
Earl 52.80
Jewels 52.62
Kaze 53.54
Ming 46.86
Webster 46.06
JV 46.92
Ronnie 49.71
Bull 46.63
M3 Razor 44.09
1. *42.54* Razor
2. *44.74* Bull
3. *44.82* Webster
4. *44.92* JV
5. *45.18* Ming
6. *48.90* Baron
7. *49.00* Ronnie
8. *49.39* Earl
9. *51.27* Jewels
10. *52.40* Kaze
11. *53.36* Big Lou
12. *53.37* Vic
13. *54.10* Sonny
14. *56.86* Izzy
15. *57.72* Taz , btw its interesting to share some laptime so i've tried too :)
@@16boinadhif can you Show me the clip for the razor?
@@keyden7732 unfortunately i don't record the race because,i don't record it man, anyway i just use keyboards with manual transmission,manual gear sometime become faster
@@16boinadhif can you tell me how to do that Cars Steer more cause on the speedrun attenpts i see dude like laser-lining , and me that also have same setup can’t even reach 75% of the Radius that he becomes, And I am 100% sure that you must know the answer cause man i mean you cut 2s from my time XD
@@keyden7732 bro i didnt know before about that settings.I just found out that there are now speedrunners who use that technique from you, hehe.
I love the fact that you used for background sound an OST from NFS Porsche Unleashed. I once did in 2011 an excel file ranking all cars from NFS Porsche with all upgrades in Evolution Mode. I used track Monte Carlo 3. I considered it the best for high speed, cornering and braking. Still have that file!
Jewel's Mustang really shines in police pursuits methinks. I don't know if the weight of the cars really means anything in this game but it feels like I gain so much momentum with this car when I'm trying to ram into a police car, be it a Crown Vic or a Corvette.
This x1000. The Mustang and the Evo are probably my 2 favorite cars to use for pursuits with the Gallardo being an honorable mention :)
Weight does matter. The Elise is one of the fastest overall vehicles in the game but is a complete liability in pursuits as it cannot just punch through roadblocks or handle being pushed around well like most vehicles can.
@@Joseph86__I got an unbelievable 40 minute pursuit with the Gallardo once… I only got caught because my Xbox lagged and I ran right into spike strips… my normal 5 heat pursuits usually don’t last more than a few minutes because my Carrera GT gets thrown around by heavy SUVs
Pretty suprising results, when I was a kid Kazes CLK was one of my favourite blacklist cars. Drove it a heap after winning it, and I beat the game using the DB9, not Ronnies, but my own I bought as soon as I unlocked it (I loved Astons, and still do).
I never really liked the Viper, or the SLR Mclaren, both of which I won.
i think your life changes as you get gallarado, and the most difficult one to bear is earl
glad to see most of us had the same opinions on these cars growing up🥰🥰
I always used Sonny's Golf GTI for pursuits and races, Vic's Supra for races, Baron's Cayman for races and Ming's Gallardo for races and pursuits 😊
This era of NFS will always be supreme in my heart ❤
I always think how razors worthless Ford won against all blacklists
Never let this guy cook again
Corvette was always my heartbeat of the entire game. There was no tollbooth or speedtrap race I couldn't win with it. And in most cases, due to the fact that I've completed MW a total of 9 times, this was the easiest car to reace against Razor, especially for the 4th event (3-lap circuit). I loved it!
Cayman for racing, evo for pursuits. Its all you Need 😊
The funny thing is that in real life, the 950hp blitz supra did a 07:49 min lap record on the nurburgring, which is the same time as the 300hp club sport golf gti
I wanted to try in highway. So I tested the same in city perimeter circuit.
- default blacklist car
- no nitro
- no tuning
Below are rankings based on my personal best with each car
Circuit time in seconds:
1. Razor - 96.6
2. Webster - 101.2
3. Bull - 101.8
4. Ming - 102.7
5. JV - 104.8
6. Ronnie - 109.2
7. Baron - 109.6
8. Earl - 115.3
9. Kaze - 116.0
10. Jewel - 117.2
11. Vic - 120.1
12. Big lou - 120.6
13. Izzy - 121.1
14. Sony - 122.2
15. Taz - 129.4
"The Golf is better" ~ KuruHS
The M3 GTR is the best car EA ever came up with, Webster’s Corvette is the best for pursuits, and Barron’s Cayman is the best for getting to number 3
The golf being 11th just proves Golf Supremacy in this game. It is quite literally the best car
@@danielmcintyre7405 the golf is better indeed
Another interesting fact is that the Chevrolet Cobalt SS, next to the Mercedes SLR McLaren, has the best acceleration in the game after tuning to the maximum (ultimate parts).
@@adamkowalski5177 you honestly can’t go wrong with either. My favorite part was playing with friends but while everyone was using end game cars I was beating them with the Golf😂
@@Joseph86__After tuning to the max, Fiat Punto is slightly better than Golf.
@@danielmcintyre7405 Punto after tuning to the max is slightly better than Golf.
Taz's IS300 is my favorite car on the Blacklist, it's a shame it's the worst in the top :(
if only the handling was better 😭
Or a better transmission prior to the ultimate upgrade.
I can respect your opinion if you like Taz's car
Its handicapped early in the game due to the 5 speed, like the cobalt. But once you get the last transmission upgrade it transforms starter cars into missiles. 😂
I beat most of blacklists using Sonny's car until I got Ming's Lambo. Little upgrade but it's like super car.
I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Golf does. I recently re-discovered the game and am now doing a playthrough where I pretty much beat every Black List racer with it ( It's totally not because I drive that one IRL, no sir, I'm not biased at all) :P
The lexus doesnt get enough love, the engine noise and vinyls are awesome
Gallardo is a must have car indeed because its an all arounder car.You can do whatever you want with this car be it sprint,circuit,speedtrap or drag.
Thanks a lot bro I remember having this games disc back in the day when I was like 6 but never really downloading it I was playing other old need for speeds so I’m doing my first playthrough rn and I really needed this and I also really liked the way you explained the cars thanks dawg 🙏
@@saba39 no problem my guy 💪
So Sonny is slow af with a fast car and Ronnie is top 3 with a boat on wheels.
We could see which driver is skilled and who is not with that board
@@steelwix well Rog did say that Sonny was pretty new to the Blacklist at the time of challenging him so maybe he didn’t have time to move up before the player beat him (that’s my headcanon anyway)
I wish you could’ve talked about Razor’s Mustang he had before he stole the M3 from us. Aside from that, it’s still a great video!
@@hesnotquitedead I thought about it. But I don’t know the actual performance for Razor’s mustang so I didn’t include it
Everyone in Rockport knows that Razor is a scumbag and deserves to have more fun time with Sgt. Cross.”
#cheers
Honestly this is the only valid blacklist ranking in my opinion!
Earl's evo viii is my favourite since the first time I played nfs mw, the evo is so reliable especially for the bounty, the handling is amazing not too slippery, even though there's some understeer & lack of top speed & the 6th gear felt so heavy, but for the overall for me the evo is the best
i finished MW with the Cayman, u totally feel u for putting it on 7th place 🔥🔥
It always pays to get Sonny's pink slip early in the game, just to have an advantage with the first few blacklist racers. as cars and parts tend to be very expensive, when you consider the income you get from races.
I remember turning off the autosave just to get Ronnie DB9 back then, yes it is a little heavy but when you upgrade it to full junkman and doing bit performance setting it feels like rocket + DB9 kinda underrated
Every time I played the game,, i beat the whole blacklist with,
Cobalt SS ✔
Lexus IS 300 ✔
Lancer Evo ✔
CLK 500 ✔
And right now I'm trying to get to number one with a Supra.
The handling of the CLK requires quite a bit of concentration and attention, but with the full tuning package and parts from Junkman, the top speed is so amazing that at 340 km/h, you'd still be revving up the revs, there just aren't any long stretches of road in the game that you can drive through unimpeded. The acceleration can also get brutal towards the end of the game. When I got my M3 back, I felt like I was driving a car with a very degraded performance :D
What's kind of ridiculous is that no matter what race I was in, the most despicable NPC opponent cars were; Golf 5, Renault, Fiat..... these 3 completely average cars could always beat me. 😂
Like one wise twitch streamer said.. "Golf is better"
the damn AI fiat was crazy man I stg 😂
For me JV's Viper, Ming's Gallardo, Baron's Porsche and Earl's Evo are my favourites in the blacklist due to how great they feel and I used these 4 in my recent play through beating Razor with Viper.
Nice list, mine’s pretty much the same
interesting video! I wouldve like it though if you did multiple runs for each car (in case you didnt) or explain your thought process for the challenge; like why you'd choose the track (maybe because its a mix between high speed low speed and medium speed for example) just to have a well rounded challenge, and multiple runs to get a consistent result
@@justanotherforsenboy1651 yeah I did multiple runs off camera and chose Ironwood Estates because imo it was the perfect balance between high speed and corners :)
Handling in general was more challenging on most wanted than any other NFS speed game I've played so I expected these comments on the handling but I agree with most of your comments and good video man.
Really? Most Wanted has absurd levels of traction. Have you played Carbon? Carbon is pretty hardcore for some car tiers and classes (exotics in the canyon, yikes).
@omegarodent765 Yeah I played Carbon after Most Wanted and for the most part they had the same feel. Coming from underground 1 and 2 the new feel wasn't welcomed especially when it came to the lacking of customization options.
Once I was playing the game and racing the blacklist racers, I still remember I didn't had a very good luck so i wasn't able to get most of the rival's cars including the cayman and gallardo. I still purchased them manually with the money i saved by doing all the blacklist races because they were my favorites.
Bro I would just turn the power to my PS2 off at the wall and re-challenge the rival until I got their pink slip lmao. I was taking their car and there was no way they could avoid it.
The game wouldn't autosave if you didn't progress past the marker selection screen. #abuse haha. The Cars I didn't use I sold.
I wonder if there's a way to handle these tests a little more scientifically, like running multiple laps and taking the best time from each batch (unless you did that off-camera and I wasn't paying attention. That's most likely the case). It's too bad there's no easy way to make your own tracks like Broughy did in GTA5 so he could properly run cars through their paces. But you did give insight into how each car feels, and removing variables in Most Wanted without basically crafting your own mods for the job is nigh impossible, so the methodology was never going to be perfect. And hey, you didn't just put them through a drag race and call it a day, so you definitely get points for that. You worked with what you had, and you did well. I always found it funny that blacklist racers with worse cars somehow ended up higher on the blacklist (but then again, the blacklist is about police notoriety as much as it's about racing, so that's always something to consider).
Man, you don’t know what you’re missing with Manual Transmission on some of these cars!
Not only do they go faster and have more MPH/KMH overall but they’re easier to control in turns and you get a feel for the best speeds to enter turns with in some of these cars. Especially #15’s Golf, which goes from ho-hum and reliable to a contender for the best car up until JV’s Viper (or Bull’s McLaren SLR) if you stay consistent with upgrades 👍🏽
It even makes cars that handle horribly a lot easier to manage once you get used to downshifting and upshifting rapidly in & out of turns. Ronnie’s Aston Martin DB9 become above average in Manual as well, which is crazy since it’s the least “cool” of the Supercars you can unlock due to how lame it looks and feels to handle in Automatic
I liked the oid design where you can beat the game in any car. Gunning a lowly Fiat Punto to 225 MPH when fully upgraded was cool AF.
This game is as close to perfection in terms of arcade racing as you can get. The only thing sorely missing from it is a damage model on cars. Cars are made of unobtanium and even ramming a hard object at 200 MPH doesn't even produce a single scratch.
if you have need for speed shift 2 would you rank all of the free cars in the game? (basically everything thats just rewarded to you such as special builds of cars from defeating people in events like the nissan gt-r or mazda rx-7 to the cars given to you such as some special cars like the drift alliance 240sx you get beating the drift tutorial or the cars you get for reaching a certain level, basically the free cars that cant be bought from the dealership for $0)
1:36 but this car is the best for Drifting even if you not mod the game
I don’t really drift in NFSMW but maybe I’ll have to try it some time
@@Joseph86__ doing it as a next challenge
Chads beat the blacklist with the fiat punto
I used a gallardo to beat razor, its not ming's gallardo but the car that I PURCHASED in the car shop. It was that easy to beat razor but hard to get to the blacklist
@@Mihajlo94 Gallardo great car
I literally crushed everyone with the Punto.
It's like having a toy car equipped with a plane engine because it's just so light I can drive around corners without the need to brake, just foot off the gas. It's amazing.
Ronnie's DB9 is underrated in terms of design because of it's "KISS ME IM IRISH." It looks so good. His car looks one of the best because his vinyl is unique. But the car's performance isn't good for its price.
Baron's Cayman S is easily the best blacklist car for playthrough. It's also good all-around. Beating Earl for the first time is hard without having a good car like the Cayman S. It's good until you get Ming's Lambo. Ming's Lambo has full upgrades(even the ones that you'll unlock after beating Ronnie). Ming's Lambo is better than Baron's Cayman until Blacklist 3. For Blacklist 2, the Cayman is better. Or you can just get the fastest car, Carrera GT.
Bull's SLR has good performance but I wish they kept his beta vinyl. For me, his car looks one of the worst because it's a lazy stock design. If they kept the beta vinyl, his car would look really good.
But when it comes to blacklist races, I felt beating Ronnie was harder than 2 and 1 when I was a kid playing the game in 2007 for the first time, Maybe it was ok purpose since his ai was too ap already
Bull's car is a fucking sleeper. If you look it on the outside you'll see the body kit is stock. No modifications. But if you look inside his SLR, it's fully upgraded. LMAO
@@ralphlorenzperolino3054imagine if Bull drove the Carrera GT.
Impressive!!! Can you do another video of the same track where all Cars have fully upgraded??!
Tbh,when l first got Ming’s Lamborghini,that’s when l was introduced to *speed*. Like actually,this car is crazy fast
Prostreet is super fun. It made me cry so hard.. finished the game 2 times and downloaded the soundtrack 👌
How do you do the tests? Cuz there's no way RX8 is considered slow. Any time I've checked it against a car I've won in a pinkslip felt so much worse than the RX, no aftermarkets used and both upgraded after getting to next level. Do you drive on neutral adjustments or smfn?
"as is" oh yeah bruh no shit early cars are slower than top ones
A lot of the understeer issues isn’t weight, it’s the drive wheels. FWD and AWD will understeer. The Mercedes is very heavy, which makes it decelerate slower and leads to understeer.
What are you using at 0:46???
plz i do not know it,i wanna no(the watch thing i am talking about)
NFS: Porsche Unleashed: Soundtrack
stock/Sonny´s Golf gets me through to Baron, and his Cayman gets me all the way through to Bull´s McLaren or even Razor. almost every playthrough
My favourite Blacklist Cars (excluding the truly and purely Iconic BMW M3 GTR) are: Izzy's Mazda RX8 and Earl's Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8 ☯️🤷🏻♂️✌️
The M3 is race car after all. It's based on the DTM version.
Anyway, now do it all again with all of them fully tuned.
@@valferdinandmonissabiano8641 already made it homie
@Joseph86__ I just watched it. Can't believe the Golf is goated. Who wouldn't know the weakest blacklist had the fastest car when fully upgraded.
This one with the iconic P60B40 motor is the exact car built by BMW to compete in the ALMS GT Series iirc, not DTM technically.
Yes I wanna see the fully tuned version too :) Thanks OP. I wish the M3 GTR was tunable in game - at least from the pause menu so I can tweak handling and the NOS.
Or that we can upgrade it at the shop but only have the option to and add a Supercharger:D
Almost every playthrough I save each car and use them in order to move up the list
Bro the BMW clip is so smooth🙂↕️
NFS MW Ps5 remake/port when?
Dodge Viper SRT 10 was my favourite car in the game!! Used it to beat Razor! Craaaazy good handling and power! Overall the best 💯🔥
In my book, Baron's car full upgrape with special performance kit is the One ^^
I mean, not only is the the M3 the coolest car in the game, but it's just a straight up ALMS GT car with a license plate on it. 😅
Realistically, it would take ALOT to beat that with a street car. Just like the corvette C6.R that you can use in free races, they SHOULD be on a totally different level than everything else the game has to offer just on principle alone! 🤘
as far as i know is the devs fucked up the turbo of the golf, the stock is stronger than the ultimate one which means you dont need to upgrade the turbo at any point and save a bit money
and the clk 500 is overall the worst car in the game
Wait. Is this true? Man I fucked up then
I understood reason behind Taz car being in colour of sh*t the moment I tried my first race in it. This vid only confirms that it wasn't coincidence.
@@naus9067 😂
So on my first playthrough (I was 8 at the time) which I still remember even after almost 20 fcking years now... WOW... well, 18 to be exact but its been almost 20 yrs since this game... wow... Anyway, so I still remember how I moved forward with cars.....
I failed to get the Golf which was a missed opportunity which I realized on my second playthrough, so my loyal SS managed to get me the Supra which I used till Baron. Unlocking the Cayman was a game changer, I easily managed until Ming with upgrading the Cayman and the only reason I switched to the Lambo was bcz I love the Gallardo which I used until I beat Bull.... For Razor I actually used the Murcielago... I was 8 at the time and born in the late 90s... I am sorry for liking my Lambos.... LOL... Also I did use other cars in between as well, the RX-8 for the handling in some drag races, the Evo 8 for some sprints and the SLR for some drag races as well... I did use a lot of different cars for the bounties though, even the horrendous Jewel's Mustang and Kaze's CLK which sucked even after the upgrades...
It was an experience, I played MW exclusively for more than a year, using every car combo imaginable to beat the Blacklist... Those were the times...
TBH I have played every edition of most wanted, on PC and PS2, Ming's Gallardo should be at number 2 because that thing made the game so easy once I got it, it felt like the difficulty level was changed or something.
the golf is the best car. fully upgraded it can do really good speeds, great handling and it is a heavier car that can crash the cops easy. its just a great jack of all trades car that you can play from the start to the final race
That's the RX-7 for me mate :D
Couldn't agree more!🙌🏿
Baron's Cayman is canonically overtuned according to his description
And then Ming's Gallardo has all the ultimate performance upgrade except one
I always started with a is300 or cobalt then got Taz car used it until baron then used the Porsche until Ming then his Lambo pretty much finished the game for me unless I wanted to switch it up with the corvette or viper. Also occasionally used the RX-8, Supra, Evo, and Mustang.
U should max out the performance parts with the junkman unique upgrade, and then test the lap time so that it really comes down to the individual car at the same performance level
How did you get the picture so clear?
Fully upgraded AND TUNED; driven by a skilled driver, its the Lotus Elise And the Porsche Carerra GT.
No other car comes close to these two!
My best time around the Hastings circuit
(Longest circuit in the game.)
3:02.##
Carrera GT.
The lotus is less than a second slower.
I've played/beat this game 5 times. The Evo is CLEARLY the best car.
I used Izzy's RX8 and i think its not that bad, I defeated Razor with it with upgrades ofcourse
To be honest, the BMW may be the most iconic, but has horrible handling and acceleration. Ming's Gallardo dies circles around it.
The M3 GTR's acceleration slaps for a NA car bro 👀 Any other car in the game with no forced induction upgrade is dog slow in comparison lmao. Handling could be improved though.
Liked because of Porsche unleashed❤