My father worked on Groupama 3, he was one of the mechanics, he wouldn't go on board for records but he was preparing the boat, and when she capsized near NZ, he had to go and bring back the pieces, so rn I have a 3-4m section of her mast in my garden...
To be udpated ? New flying trimarans are now ready for "la Transat Jacques Vabre 2021" : Actual Ultim 3, Sodebo 3, Banque Populaire XI, Gitana 17, SVR Lazartigue...for the moment, there are not as fast as the "Hydroptere" but they can cross oceans. All are marvels from France, like the 5 mentioned in this video.
85km/u!!!! Prima. Dankie for a great video. When will this kind of sailboats be on the general market? Normal sailboats go about maxi of 8Knt (15km/h). Cats maxi about 18knt (33km/h). Merci.
It's not that sad. The hydroptere is going to be in a museum very soon, the design is just too old & it says a lot about how visionary the entire project was
There is no direct relation between wind speed and boat speed. Sailing is not based on using a tail wind to push the boat forward but using a side wind to creat a forward force like an aircraft wing. The larger the sail, the stronger the force, the faster the boat and the lesser the water/air resistance, the faster the boat. As the wind is sideway the force is still the applied even when the boat is faster than the wind. The foils almost cancel water resistance by getting the boat hull above the surface, allowing higher speeds. They generally dont intentionnaly go to 70 kmh wind areas and if they face such conditions they generally reduce the sail to avoid snapping the mast of flipping the boat.
@@pauljrcarty9314 I don't know what sail configuration is used in high winds situations, depends a lot on the boat design and the roughness of the sea. The first ranked boat in this video used 70 kmh wind conditions to reach 50 + knt (100 kmh). Ongoing world tour record attempt is currently going 70 kmh in 40 kmh wind.
If lending club and groupama 3 look similar its because it's litteraly the same boat it was commissioned in 2006; beated the circum navigation record twice, first under groupama colors in 2008 and a second time in 2016 unde idec sport's color with a mast ten meter shorter, it also won the route du rhum 3 edition in a row: in 2008 as groupama 3, in 2012 as banque populaire 7 and in 2016 as idec sport, a truly impressive machine that can be cited as the ledgendary boat of the racing world like the pen duick series, pierre premier, orange 2 and so many other
Why don't we still use cubits and chains? The question should be: why don the Americans move to the much simpler metric system..... like the rest of the world?
Well, it looks like they got the main problems out of the way. Like the deck area between hulls, gone! No more push over airspace in full tilt. Yet, I wonder how a 70 ft boat with a 45 ft beam can ever come to mean something to the yachting world, other than a cool essay in ?
Bruce, What do you mean by the last sentence? These are some of the most powerful vessels ever devised! They have travelled across oceans faster than the fastest oil driven beasts. They have circumnavigated the world in 40 days 13hours! Not even a nuclear vessel has done that! Oh and that was using wind alone!! Cool Essay? Which “yachting World”?
@@bruceruttan60 If you can bend the side skiffs in it is perfectly suitable for a tight budget cruising family. Take the Corsair 970, it is bare-bone (think camping) inside but brings you everywhere flying. Another concept is the Neel 51, pricey but more than enough room for the average motorhome family who has some money lying around. Two examples which hopefully show you some inside in its possibilities .😎
@@tip00former1 I guess it depends on your demands: you will never go 40kn+ (regardless of design) if you bring the kingsize bed, the dish washer, the washing machine, the scuba equipment, the bicycle,...(and expect all that to fit in less than 50 ft)
LOL I have an ancient old Baja that would smoke all of these boats... And it's old pile of crap with two worn out engines. The bearings scream in one of the superchargers... And half the gauges don't work. The upholstery is shot... Needs paint. But you get what I'm saying.. That piece of junk sitting in my shop would literally blow past these boats like they were sitting still... *BECAUSE THEY'RE SLOW*
L'hydroptere has been around for a few decades now, still inspiring, and most of the fleet going to foils, what more the speed when foiled. Love it
My father worked on Groupama 3, he was one of the mechanics, he wouldn't go on board for records but he was preparing the boat, and when she capsized near NZ, he had to go and bring back the pieces, so rn I have a 3-4m section of her mast in my garden...
Lucky you i would love that. I would put it in my house
The number one ship. What a design. Interested to learn more. Thanks for sharing.
To be udpated ? New flying trimarans are now ready for "la Transat Jacques Vabre 2021" : Actual Ultim 3, Sodebo 3, Banque Populaire XI, Gitana 17, SVR Lazartigue...for the moment, there are not as fast as the "Hydroptere" but they can cross oceans. All are marvels from France, like the 5 mentioned in this video.
The sails who go faster than the wind itself.
Would it be possible to create a trimaran drone that could circumnavigate continuously, generating it's own power?
Outdated video, numbers off but still awesome boats and some nice footage.
3:34 two hulls far out of water. Maybe add two more small hulls further out to balance further.
85km/u!!!! Prima. Dankie for a great video. When will this kind of sailboats be on the general market? Normal sailboats go about maxi of 8Knt (15km/h). Cats maxi about 18knt (33km/h). Merci.
I don’t know! I’m not a producer of this boats ;)
lol @ listing the same boat twice, what a drongo. I was half expecting to see you put in 'Spindrift 2'
spindrift 2 is back populair
Spindrift2 is Banque Populaire V, juste the news name.
Macif? Gitana?
French ship
dison qu'en 2017 la classe ultime n'avait pas encore deployé ses ailes
Hallucinant wow!!! 💖💖💖
The sad thing is that hydroptere is sitting abandoned in Hawaii since 2015 after a failed attempt at the trans pac record.
It's not that sad. The hydroptere is going to be in a museum very soon, the design is just too old & it says a lot about how visionary the entire project was
She is impounded and is now for auction in Oahu, 8,000.00
She has been sold and will return to SF.
Not anymore, it's returning to SF and then to France I think
@@michaelkeaton5394 Yes is good to see, I was offered to help deliver it back but apparently it was held together by duct tape
Maserati?
Hobie Trifoiler, 72 km/h, is faster than Groupama 3
Are they sailing in 70 kmh wind?
There is no direct relation between wind speed and boat speed. Sailing is not based on using a tail wind to push the boat forward but using a side wind to creat a forward force like an aircraft wing. The larger the sail, the stronger the force, the faster the boat and the lesser the water/air resistance, the faster the boat. As the wind is sideway the force is still the applied even when the boat is faster than the wind.
The foils almost cancel water resistance by getting the boat hull above the surface, allowing higher speeds.
They generally dont intentionnaly go to 70 kmh wind areas and if they face such conditions they generally reduce the sail to avoid snapping the mast of flipping the boat.
@@simonrano8072 gale force is dangerous
@@simonrano8072 so jibs only in gale force?
@@pauljrcarty9314 I don't know what sail configuration is used in high winds situations, depends a lot on the boat design and the roughness of the sea. The first ranked boat in this video used 70 kmh wind conditions to reach 50 + knt (100 kmh). Ongoing world tour record attempt is currently going 70 kmh in 40 kmh wind.
@@simonrano8072 in theory it appears that a ketch would be faster
If lending club and groupama 3 look similar its because it's litteraly the same boat it was commissioned in 2006; beated the circum navigation record twice, first under groupama colors in 2008 and a second time in 2016 unde idec sport's color with a mast ten meter shorter, it also won the route du rhum 3 edition in a row: in 2008 as groupama 3, in 2012 as banque populaire 7 and in 2016 as idec sport, a truly impressive machine that can be cited as the ledgendary boat of the racing world like the pen duick series, pierre premier, orange 2 and so many other
Kind of odd that you indicate speeds in km/h and not in knots! Anybody interested in watching this video should know what a knot is
General public understand KPH.
Why would you put speed in kilometers instead of knots?
Why don't we still use cubits and chains?
The question should be: why don the Americans move to the much simpler metric system..... like the rest of the world?
What speed machines,watch out for pitch polling✅
Pourquoi MACIF n'est-il pas classé ?
Great video ! You should actualize now ;)
Sailrocket: Paul Larsen 11/24/2012
not a trimaran ;)
@@iiishinryuiii Three points of contact! Why not?
Well, it looks like they got the main problems out of the way. Like the deck area between hulls, gone! No more push over airspace in full tilt.
Yet, I wonder how a 70 ft boat with a 45 ft beam can ever come to mean something to the yachting world, other than a cool essay in ?
Bruce, What do you mean by the last sentence?
These are some of the most powerful vessels ever devised!
They have travelled across oceans faster than the fastest oil driven beasts.
They have circumnavigated the world in 40 days 13hours!
Not even a nuclear vessel has done that!
Oh and that was using wind alone!!
Cool Essay?
Which “yachting World”?
@@grahamsolomon2037 to the yachting world. Breaking records is great but I don't see this effecting the family boat much. Sorry
@@bruceruttan60 If you can bend the side skiffs in it is perfectly suitable for a tight budget cruising family. Take the Corsair 970, it is bare-bone (think camping) inside but brings you everywhere flying. Another concept is the Neel 51, pricey but more than enough room for the average motorhome family who has some money lying around.
Two examples which hopefully show you some inside in its possibilities .😎
@@tip00former1 I guess it depends on your demands: you will never go 40kn+ (regardless of design) if you bring the kingsize bed, the dish washer, the washing machine, the scuba equipment, the bicycle,...(and expect all that to fit in less than 50 ft)
time to update!
Where are more hydrofoils?
Not sure Phaedo is a great name for a ship.
In barca si misura la velocità in nodi !
Hidroptere es un avion
Groupama3 et banque pop c edt le meme bateau donc pas ouf
Groupama 3 = Lending Club 2 = Banque Populaire 7; Banque Populaire 5 = Spindrift 2; Phaedos 3 = Foncia (MOD 70)
Look how fast i can go boi
These r essentially mono hulls with stabilisers
Better not hit a log!
Sunfish
Les classements sont Faux
Classement complètement bidon avec des vieux bateaux
Mdr et Spindrift? Sodebo Ultim 3 ? Massif ? Gitana ?
La vidéo a été publiée il y a 7 ans ,il y a 7 ans ces trimaran n'existait pas
Karine Laurent non elle a été publiée il y a 3 ans
Hydroptere
判んねえなぁ、フネの世界でkm/hで表現されてもなぁ。併記でいいからKnotも描いてくれよ、計算するのめんどいから、そもそもkm/hはKnotを逆算したんだろ？
LOL I have an ancient old Baja that would smoke all of these boats... And it's old pile of crap with two worn out engines. The bearings scream in one of the superchargers... And half the gauges don't work. The upholstery is shot... Needs paint. But you get what I'm saying.. That piece of junk sitting in my shop would literally blow past these boats like they were sitting still...
*BECAUSE THEY'RE SLOW*
Haha I never cease to marvel at some comments' insight. Thanks for the moment ^^