What If Megatron Betrayed The Fallen In ROTF? Timeline Officially Explained - Transformers 2021
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- Hey guys the Fire Brothers here and today I'm talking about a fun what if scenario that is actually officially explained by Ask Vector Prime, this what if scenario follows the events of the Transformers Revenge Of The Fallen The Game primarily the Decepticon campaign but this story can also happen in the Autobot one. What-if scenarios are pretty fun and we all have asked one of these questions in some way shape or form, so this what if is honestly pretty interesting since it covers a bunch of questions we had about the movies and the characters themselves. I do plan to cover more What-If scenarios in the future if that's something that you guys are interested in, I come to find out that there is a huge amount of movie what-if scenarios. So without further ado sit back, relax as we talk about What If Megatron Betrayed The Fallen In ROFT Officially Explained!
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Through the gaps of *TIME*
Across the distances of *SPACE*
Journey through *REALITY*
It's an endless sword between world where every strike creates a new universe. I Am Vector Prime your guide in these new realities and ask the question,
"What would happen if...?"
What if...the transformers has return?
What if Jeffrey Wright Will voiced by Vector Prime?
@@jackytran7818 I like Richard Newman to reprise his role troy baker did a good impression
@@blueraccoon1088 ok😎😎😎😎
I might need to make a video intro saying that
I always assumed that The Fallen's power over entropy gives him the ability to enact a barrier around himself that decays everything that tries to hurt him, however, a Prime has resistance or even outright immunity to the powers of other Primes, so only Optimus could defeat him because as a Prime, his energy nullified The Fallen's entropic barrier.
And I also have a theory/headcanon that Optimus can use the exact same thing offensively, before he melee strikes an opponent, his power over entropy causes the armor to decay so fast in an instant that it melts away like butter when his attack lands.
Hasbro really hyped up the fallen but plenty of other movie media showed that he can be hurt by people who are not Primes
@@thefirebrothers3739 That's my belief for the movie canon. I have a bunch of alternative theories/ways thnigs play out, or what ifs, wanna hear some of them?
@@thefirebrothers3739 and some how he beat 8 other primes
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Yeah, that's weird
I would love an official What If-style Transformers series with alternate takes on the movies, like what if Sentinel Prime didn't betray the Autobots? What if the Matrix didn't revive Optimus? What if the Autobots weren't hunted down after DOTM? What if Jazz survived? So many possibilities.
We got the stories, we would just have to animate them
I hope those people at Hasbro are taking notes from what if but I doubt it
Or optimus didnt kiled megatron in dotm
What if the allspark was not destroyed?
If Sam and Carly survived is something I want to see as it’s been 12 yrs without them on the big screen
Honestly Megatron was so weak in DOTM he was no threat that Sentinel didn't have to betray the autobots
His brain is half damaged
@@frederickgrandison3609 I said Sentinel not Megatron
I just finished my TF1 rewrite and I’m currently working on my ROTF rewrite and it is drastically different than the movie Jolt gets an actual role this time the Twins don’t exist the Arcee sisters get a good role as well The Fallen is a much more mysterious villain but his intentions are the same but it’s for a darker purpose Megatron doesn’t die in the first rewrite and instead is in deep hiding while his goons cause some chaos I also took some inspiration from the DS game also Optimus doesn’t die this time instead he gets put into a deep coma to the point where he appears dead Sideways lives this time like I said my ROTF rewrite is drastically different than what we got
The DS games had such a good story specially the 2007 ones
@@thefirebrothers3739 agreed and Jolt has the role the create-A-bot has from the ROTF game but he’s already on Earth at the time however I made him as a sort of fanboy he looks up to Optimus and he knows a few things about the Primes but not too much so Jolt Sideswipe and Bumblebee all go on the road trip to find Jetfire that’s where the Arcee sisters come in they’re somewhat spies in my rewrite they find Jetfire’s location the main team finds him and learn about the Matrix and The Fallen
Ca I read it or watch it somewhere?
@@helloimjeff935 unfortunately I don’t know how to release the rewrite but if you have insta or discord I can basically just tell you the entire TF1 rewrite and explain all of my new ideas and improvements
@@helloimjeff935 I do plan on making a stop motion adaptation but right now I’m struggling and I don’t have the space so it’ll take time
I love this one. This is a very great What If. I really love how Sentinel Prime finally gets to reform and be the good guy he was before the war forced him to make a deal with Megatron and then go on to help Optimus Prime reshape many of the events that follow in "Age of Extinction" and "The Last Knight." For one of your next What Ifs, you should do "What if Sentinel Prime was in Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen." And I'm not talking about the part where he was mentioned by Sam Witwicky. I'm talking about an official appearance. And explore how Sentinel Prime's involvement in Transformers: Revenge of The Fallen would change the course of what happens up to the part where Optimus Prime goes up against The Fallen and then everything else that follows in the events "Age of Extinction" and "The Last Knight."
Right now I plan to cover official what-ifs, but I guess I could make some fan-made ones in the future
If Optimus didn’t die or Megatron stayed dead then the Fallen would just be rusting in a chair waiting for no primes
The fallen had no reason to fear normal Optimus
Do a What If Shatter and Dropkick actually sent the satellite signal to the Decepticon Army
What if Sam, Mikaela, Lennox, Epps and Simmons where in AOE and TLK
Lennox was in TLK.
@@matuefamily7829 I know but he wasn't in aoe
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD .....Fair enough.
Actually i really wish that sam Simmons Lennox Epps director Charlotte mearing was in transformers age of extinction instead of being replaced by li bingbing as su yueming
Nice video dude :)
Marvel Fans:"What if" its almost perfect!
Fire Brothers:Im so dissapointed...
Marvel Fans have low standards, I was very disappointed with the series
I love What IF scenarios like this ! Very good video !
I really enjoy de What if's from Transformers
What if Mudflap and Skids were the main characters
Sounds like a recipe for disaster
@@thefirebrothers3739 it’ll be epic
@@PK-Radio i agree…an epic, hilarious disaster
Here’s one
What if barricade was more significant and didn’t disappear all the time
That's tricky cause the movies always under-utilized the robots so I can't say much would change
Now all we need is a Star Wars what if 👍
Also, I'm having a little QnA with he director of the Transformers Rise Of Unicron fan-film. Here are a couple of screenshots in preparation for a big update video I plan to do very soon covering the progress they made with the film, if you have any questions for him or the crew write it down in the comments of this community tab(th-cam.com/users/postUgkxBMEVVBOrfwzqKeEHQH2O5BaYbxf7pWcp) and I will pick which ones I relay to him. So make it good, anyways have fun!
Dude u and Trans theories should totally join hasbro and write the script for a "What if" televisions series for transformers like Marvel
If only it worked that way
I would really love to see this in the movie this would’ve been a good end to the transformers series
It does sound like a pretty cool movie
@@thefirebrothers3739 yes indeed
6:53 Lockdown despises both Bots & Cons. He never would’ve interacted with Megs.
I am like what if I think it's a good concept
This is kinda like my what if megatron won video in tf1 with the decepticon army
One that I’m interested is if revenge of the fallen wasn’t ritten at the same time of the righters thing tha5 bad one to make rotf be rushed. But if it wasn’t then how different and possibly more better and then what will dark of the moon be different too and aoe and tlk
this timeline goes hard as fuck.
What if the Rainmakers show up in the movies ?
Answer : They kill everyone
Or get kill like most of the name Decepticons
Yeah...
Can you make a video about an unknown character from Transformers Universe called Mark brasington I think he is a Decepticon minivan just like outsider
Fire brother: Doesn't say the b word in the past
Also Fire brothers: Says that the deciptcons kick the auto bot ass more
Well you do another transformers what if video
This would be cool
What if TLK wasn't screwed during writing or editing?
Not gonna live I would love to see this version of story in live action
What if Sam put the all spark in optimus prime chest
There is actually a what-if scenario for it, I might cover that next
I don’t know if someone already comment about this. What if Sentinel Prime did something right in TF3? He would still bring Cybertron, but he breaks a deal with Megatron and wants Optimus and the Autobots to head back to the Moon to fix the Ark and they’ll travel to the galaxy searching more surviving Autobots to have a backup to restore Cybertron and Megatron with what’s left of his Decepticons on Earth didn’t know or maybe they know Sentinel betrayed Megatron and took the pillars out to the galaxy to restore Cybertron somewhere else. Knowing Sentinel just wants to restore Cybertron but this time he takes the pillar somewhere else than Earth. So who knows what’ll be like if that happen for TF4 and TF5? And what if Megatron lives since he give Optimus a truce since he had nothing left after Cybertron is gone thanks to the Autobots destroying the pillar. So if Megatron lives in TF3, what’ll be like through the rest of the sequels?
The Protos wouldn’t have worked since well they needed energon to hatch & destroying the machine stopped them from growing. So Megs would have to rely on the moon army.
What if zombies was bad and good video I like it
Glad you agree, I didn't like the amount of jokes they made.
@@thefirebrothers3739 I agree with that
What if Solus Prime survived?
Fire please make a video a what if sentinel prime never deals with Megatron in transformers dotm I have been waiting for so long
That's an interesting one
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This is litteraly what I wanted for a what if well it's not exactly the one I wanted because the one I wanted is sentinel not betraying the autobots but instead betraying the decepticons but it still happend 🤔
make more of these please
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I need more What If
I need more What if!!!
This would be a dark of the moon rewritten and would made the movie a lot better
This is amazing
what if the fallen never revealed the transformers to the humans?
What if unicorn was in transformers dark of the moon and cyclones and scourge and more Decepticons army
If you do more of these, what if prime just threw the matrix down the well instead of sacrificing himself in TFP?
I mean like I think thi9ngs would stay the same bc he comes back into RID
@@Soundwaveproductions8419we pretend RID never happened
So how reliable is this, its interesting
Megatron was no match for the Fallen.
Can you do what if bumblebee never came back in transformers prime. Would optimus actually kill megatron if he didn't get the upper hand after he killed bee
That is an excellent idea
can you do what if megatron betrays quintessa
Can you do what if Optimus let megatron go after end of Dotm.
Off Topic but question but does anyone know what happened to Sam Witwicky after Dark of the Moon?
He dies, its at least implied that he dies.
WHAT IF MEGATRON NEVER GOT REVIVED IN TRANSFORMERS 2 BUT IN THREE INSTEAD?!
What if Megatron was never revived in:
G1
ROTF
AOE
There is one for G1 but not for ROTF or AOE...I think
2022 Transformers $$$
What if Sam witwicky never dies between dotm and aoe
What if Megatron became Nemesis Prime instead of Gavlotron
You could argue he kinda was
@@thefirebrothers3739 but let's say if ksi did build his body to look like prime and Megatron only took over the body instead of Turing it into gavlotron
what if soundwave survival 🤔
To be honest if you or your fans need visuals I can provide stopmotions for them though I’d need to find certain characters
Pls do more TF what if
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if you turn this into a series can you do a video on what if galvatron never ran away from lockdown it would be like this galvatron never obeyed KSI after he faught optimus prime and instead worked with lockdown.
doubt it, he’s still megatron and he wants to be in charge, lockdown takes orders from quintessa, so i doubt they could coexist. now maybe if they fought it would be more realistic. something like DOTM have galvatron save prime instead of having lockdown die cause of human interference. 1, that’s more believable. 2, maybe have galvatron attempt to call a truce again, trick optimus into rethinking what he did last time and accept the truce and have galvatron betray him, kill him then retreat. next movie can be about finding the next prime or trying to revive him
@@alexandercarrillo9951 I think you hit the nail in the coffin
@The Fire Brothers, PLEASE do a sequel to this what if,
Since Age of Extoinktion would eventually still happen, except without Lockdown's help.
_What if Cybertron was brought in the Solar System at the end of DotM, yet Sentinel died and Optimus and Megatron made a truce ?_
The book
@user-zy6mj2hd6m I would love seeing a followup of this version. It could've made AoE way better.
Your next video should be Teen Titans 2003 vs Teen Titans no
No, no one would watch it
Sorry you have to
What if... Fire didn't see us next time?
What if...Chris donated money to Fire?
What if... Squeaker had regular appearances and roles on the channel?
The fallen shall fall again
if squeaker was here the channel would do better by 1 million subs. (my burns are inescapable)
Mmmmmmm interesting
Is megatron William Afton because he always comes back
What if, the movies used the G1 models?
They would be smaller
What if Optimus prime was evil and had red eyes in the bay verse and join sentinel prime in transformers dark of the moon
Can you do megtron turn good in tf3
Here's my what if Question
What if Optimus prime accepts megatrons truce in dark of the moon
That actually is pretty cool what if idea
@@thefirebrothers3739 thanks
That happened in the novel.
Here a what if? what if megatron was the main villan?
LOL
ayy thanks for the heart
The there would be only 1 movie
What if the Bay verse turn into zombies?
So Terrorcons?
@@thefirebrothers3739 yes fire brothers, what if unicron & his minions becoming a terrorcons?
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Your intro is just perfect... The way you transition to the What IF...? Theme is immaculate. One thing though, the names that appear during that segment should be replaced by your TH-cam name and a like comment subscribe
Why Didnt Lockdown Use the Seed on Cybertron??? He also Got Brain damage like Megatron
It would explain where he got his scar from
Age of extinction would have been 10 times better if it was Ironhide and sideswipe instead of hound and crosshairs.
I think it would be just about the same, except that the characters would look better
Do you think that the new version of Megatron with the G1 design will be more powerful than the past bay formers versions of megatron? I think so.
What if Bumblebee was always able to talk
Then other Bumblebee's in the franchise would talk more
What if sentinel prime was return in the last knight
Why not write an alternate universe where Megatron grabs hold of the Allspark and plays god with every machine, reviving them back to his army. And the Autobots had to evacuate Mission City as the whole world is now an apocalyptic cesspool. But MY version is to retcon the SHIT out of the sequels and make all the newcomers more G1 inspired and play out more as a horror movie style series for Nickelodeon and be more PG.
Ni
What If…. Cemetery Wind managed to hunt down *all* Autobots?
No movie
will you the fire brothers make what if about son of optimus prime today yes are no
What prime never died
will you the fire brothers make what if about son of God Megatron today yes are no
Sheesh
I have Dom studio series Megatron figure
Lucky, I don't have one
I wish this was how the movies went it kind of bothers me that sentinel didn’t get at least some redemption. I think a cool senario would be what if the dinobots were in rotf.
They were originally planned to be in there, how they would be added would be the challenging part
@@thefirebrothers3739 maybe they could be unearthed during the fight in Hong Kong like perhaps when demolisher slams his hands on the ground it causes enough damage to where the autobots and nest find a faint energy signature and see the dinobots ship.
Dude murdered Ironhide, along with summoning an army that wiped out so many humans. Redemption was not happening for him.
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I was expecting continuing redesign infernicon.
(Just keep in mind) although “what if” would be fine.
What if bumblebee died in any movie
Uhm, that changes simultaneously a lot and not a lot
What if unicron won in transformers the movie is that a thing
Yes, that is an official what-if and its dark. I really want to cover that
we seriously need an animated movieverse series
What if ROTF wasn't made in the writers strike
That's a good one
When are you going to make a Teen Titans 2003 video and compared to Teen Titans go
Never, I never said I was
Why would anyone compare greatness to compete garbage
Sentinel to Optimus: "Nothin' personal kid, just business."
LOL I wish someone would make a fandub of that
What if starscream never betrayed megatron would be a good one
Except he never did in the movies, outside of the movies he did but in the movies he was more or less loyal
@@thefirebrothers3739 Wasn't there a theory once about Starscream being part of the fighter jets that hit Megatron in the 07 film? You know, the part where a lot of fighter jet missiles dish out some good damage to Megs, making him actually fall to the ground. I remember reading this theory quite a lot and it would definitely fit Starscreams character.
Can you please make a part 2 about all the 2009 Autobots
Sure, soon