Anyone remember the lotus silk vid? Now compare these dude "14 hour of blood sweat and tear", to the lady who labor for 2 months+, making silk by hand cm after cm, to create a scarf that charge for less than a 10th of this chain.
@@tinybats452 You need to look up some "how they're made" videos of these folks actually making these chains. I saw one once about 20 or so minutes long, IIRC. Absolute works of art. I'd charge that much too if I had to put that much work in. I wouldn't take this video, which only shows about 4 or 5 minutes worth of actual work, seriously as more than hype. Behind the hype is real work and artistry.
“You are wearing someone’s blood, sweat, and tears” Heard of the sweatshop workers in Asia that make products like shoes, clothes, and a variety of other textile products?
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@1% When did I not acknowledge the efforts of Jamaicans and other LatinX workers? If you want to hyperbolize something THAT ISN’T THERE, go ahead. In applying “you are wearing someone’s blood, sweat, and tears” to Asians, I’m not diminishing the hard work of the aforementioned groups one bit; I’m merely ALSO bringing to attention the plight of sweatshop workers that put in a similar amount of effort, if not more, to provide the daily products you and I use.
@1% if anything, you and I should be raging against the major corporations that skim off the most profit from the fruits of labor of campesinos, miners, sweatshop workers, and many other blue-collar workers that are paid pennies relative to the profits their employer makes. Why rage against me for bringing into attention the plight of my fellow brethren in tandem to yours? Workers globally should unionize to demand fair pay for their labor and adequate protection so the bullshit issues of the gilded age(in American history) won’t perpetuate beyond 2021.
@Briscoe17555 I was being specific about making the chains with the "one year". I know you wouldn't become an all around jeweler in one year. But as well you could learn one of the several disciplines of making shoes in one year. But there are four of them.
I feel like some blacksmiths and sword smiths create more beautiful art. Its kinda a shame that these chains cost more than somethings that required hundreds of hours to make
I wouldn't pay beyond spot for a 24k gold chain. It's literally a gold chain... no additional value beyond the 5 or so hours they spent on it and the gold itself.
good luck finding that if you ever decide to buy one. i suppose you never pay more than what the ingredients cost a a restaurant for a meal yeah?@@mehmeh1999
This video makes people with even the most basic tools skills look like a professional. Soldering isn't that hard, you're not going to lose a finger to a roller unless you're braindead, and your oxyacetylene torch only heats the thing you point it at.
I mean, I'm no expert, but I took a short night course to be a machinist, and I feel like most of the guys that completed it could do this with just a little more training on mixing the metals. None of this really looks hard or complicated. I think its largely hype. But, then again, a lot of things are, aren't they?
As a certified jeweler I will say every damn thing in this trade is “hard”, and I highly, highly encourage and challenge everyone to attempt to work with metals as a professional.
The reason they're so expensive is because people will buy something expensive in order to tell the world (and themselves), "I'm so successful that I can buy something expensive".
And only fools will actually pay the price meanwhile the "experienced people" laugh at how they made easy money for something that isn't actually hard to make
@@helloitsme1130 Unless they need to replace every single machine and piece of equipment used in the process after every finished piece, paying 80.000 $ or indeed ten times as much (as they say some of them cost) for a chain really makes you the fool. For that kind of money, you could literally buy the necessary equipment, rent a workshop, hire a group of competent metalworkers and give them a week or two's worth of practice with all of the necessary materials before they make the final product for you, and you'd probably still have saved a bunch of money, let alone have a bunch of metalworking equipment that you could resell for profit.
Literally one of the easiest pieces of handmade jewellery out there... It's a chain... No set gems, no inlays, no variation in size. Dangerous?? Try working in any other type of metal fabrication, this is not dangerous, you are using an oxy torch and a shrinker/stretcher
@@AL-ij2ki if you have any skill or talent than this wouldn't be dangerous. Those who blow glass are in a much more dangerous situation but rarely have anything happen to them because they know what they are doing
Oh, someone has lost a finger in this job? This is concidered dangerous if you sit in an office all day. We have a mine right behind our house, when it was still active, my dad and his cousin worked there. (This was well before I was born) The cousin got some of his shirt cought in a conveyor belt, he got pulled in with his whole arm and couldn't free him self. He died, after he was dragged by the conveyor belt. This is a dangerous job. Not working with some warm metal and a controllable gas flame a meter away from you.
i made these chains as kid when i was learning to make jewellery at my grand father's shop. I am a 10th generation jeweller from india and these chains are some of the easiest to make. His soder metal is not right that is why it kept on breaking. He should lessen the zinc by 1% copper by 4%and increase the silver by 5% gold remains the same in the sodering metal.
Cuban link chains are actually very easy to make compared to other jewellery. Their value is in the gold content. They are some of the most basic jewellery to make from an effort and skill pov.
Have you ever tried pass a bar through a rolling machine, and twelve times at that? You need to put it in, and then you need to remember to catch it when it gets out. Just watch 2:35 and admire the works of a master craftsman.
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I want to know what wire they're actually bending in those jigs, and what metal they're "soldering" together. Pure gold, or jewelry grade alloys, don't require nearly that level of effort to bend. Or solder. Sure, it's tricky but so is glassblowing. Once you learn the technique it's second nature. I've worked with metal, many types of metal and I felt like what I was watching was steel or even copper wire links being formed, brazed together, twisted, ground, etc. And then gold plated. But get real, the wire they're working with in this video, it's not gold. And the "that's not dirt on my hands, that's gold!" statement is funny. Tin, lead, bronze, copper, steel, and aluminum are just a few metals that will leave black oxide as a residue, which leads even more to this story smelling fishy. These guys have skills, don't get me wrong. But these guys are making this process seem like arduous labor that only a few people in the world have the skills to do. Anyone who's worked with real gold is laughing at the iron work and forging going on. "Guys have lost their fingers doing this!". So have chefs, blacksmiths, assembly line workers, iron workers, leather crafters, firefighters, the list goes on and on. Stop the soap opera of trying to sell yourself off as some kind of hero. Look, you spend some time making gold plated chain for overpriced thugs with more money than brains. Count yourself lucky that you can make oodles of cash doing semi-skilled labor producing a way overpriced product that's a "must have bling" for rappers to feel legit. But jeez, stop the superman act. The ego in that shop is about on par with their super star customers, LMAO.
As someone who's actually done some jewelry making which included soldering, good lord are these dudes full of shit. Solder has a very low melting point, that's literally what it's made for, if you manage to melt gold while soldering it I'm pretty sure you were trying to do that. Not like polishing it is super hard either, just takes some high grit sandpaper and elbow grease, maybe a buffing wheel .
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If you want to justify high prices of jewelry by labor intensive processes, look into watchmaking... THAT requires skill, not the most basic blacksmithing techniques
There's a reason why blacksmiths don't mess with jewelry and it's because they can't afford it. That's why they stick to metals are that are cheap af go work with.
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If it were so dangerous they would use PPE, and they could definitely use a bigger drill for those big chains, i can't believe these a holes are ripping people off with these prices.
@@Issabamabeat there's not that much skill involved in this This is literally basic metal craftsmanship they aren't even good at the basics when you consider they think that gold and soda(solder speech to text fail) material melt around the same temperature I have zero experience in metal smithing and I know that they don't melt anywhere near the same temperature hundreds of degrees of difference
"Just a few people in the world can do what we do" dafuk? Does he thinks he's making a katana, painting a Mona Lisa or some shit? It's just a chain. You ain't that's special.
@@ukoysakabo7310 no no, i'm pretty sure we could make a katana outa gold. the price may be a little steep. for the right price anything can be done in gold!
@@eksine I'm a jeweler and polishing is not the hardest job but it isn't super easy either. A beginner can think that hes done a good job while a professional or a customer can tell its not done right. Especially when its a chain you need to get atleas every visible nook and cranny and you can't have mark showing you polished in certain direction.
Everybody acts like these guys are doing open heart surgery or something..... 12 hours to make a chain..... Well I guess that wouldn't be a bad day for me since I work 16-hour shifts....geeze
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@@gvs6462 well here in singapore just 2 room flat in a hdb is like 80k somewhere there and thats cheap i think like just a few of those cuban chains is enough for a 2 room
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I know this reply is late as shit but they also file them all down to exactly the same shit too, like there's no differences between any chain itself aside from material used. Bruh
It costs so much because some people have too much money and think they are buying bling. Rats have always been attracted to shiny things. If you can solder it, it isn't worth it.
bro you can solder gold on circuitry, and chains and jewellery. is gold not worth it ? now I get why you'd say that for stuff like non gold chains like some wear. but these chains are heavy and thick, gold is costly. most of the cost has to be gold here.
The reason there are only a handful of people that can do this is because it’s sooooo dangerous. I can’t even tell you the death count from making These necklaces. 😂 blôw me
For reals. I wear a gold wedding ring. It's subtle and classy. The picture of a rapper with a 20pound gold chain. Why even drop 700+ grand on a necklace?
At the beginning the guy talking about how you're wearing their blood sweat and tears, like, my $4 Walmart shirt from a sweatshop also has someone's blood sweat and tears on it too.
That guy makes it seem like hes making an authentic samurai katana "literally only a handful of people around the world can do this and it takes us the grand total of 14 hours" 🤣
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Theses guys really made all this look pretty dramatic but it is hard work to be able to master this craft, I'm gonna be making my first Cuban link chain as soon as I can get my hands on silver wire and I gotta say it's probably the easiest possible chain to make out there which is why it'll be my first project. In the jewelry game it's all about how you market yourself and the intricate details in your pieces that seperate you from the rest. I can't wait to be part of this business and create my own jewelry empire, for now I'm sitting at 161 subs but I just can't wait to see where I'll be at in 5 years!
My dad is a welder and he saw this video and said that it's complete BS. To prove it, he and I made one these chains in our spare time. We used a rusty old chain that we used to lock the workshop and did the process like they did. It's almost identical to what they did and it barely costed us anything for the weekend that we made it on. Like you can probably add up the resources we used to about $50 or something on the equipment and electricity. People who spend this much money on this is getting scammed, I asked for quote on a Pawnshop on the chain that we did and they offered us like 1k for something that we did on our spare time lmao.
"If you mess it up you can't be afraid to go back and do it over" ... Man, these guys are some real Dunning Kruger. There's only a handful doing what they do in their town. They have torches with thousands of degrees of heat. They join gold with solder. Guys have lost fingers. They are epic gods with sacred knowledge. Rappers need their chains for legitimacy. LoL.
"Somebody had to literally take 14 hours of their day running hot steel through machinery to then turn it by hand,..." What the hell does that mean? So they're just gold-filled. They start out as steel and they are coated with gold. It's a plumbing job. Complete bs.
Lol why this guy tryna make it sound so deep, they just bending metal n heating it hahahahahah not tryna be a hater but mans acting like he’s building a rocket xD
You're right and the guy isn't that smart either he thinks gold and solder material melt around the same temperature when there's literally hundreds of degrees of difference at their melting point
@@GARBO96 yh lol like i respect it, its hard labour but thats all it is. Labour. Doesnt really take much skill lol its expensive cus its made of gold n already expensive af so thus they can add a bigger premium lol
@@GARBO96 i think he meant brazing. Maby they use the same folder as the Chain. Still, what they are doing doesn't look like it's massively difficult. It is still gonna be hard work. But that kinda goes along with working with metals.
@@herpesdergotterbote2719 hard work and skilled work are two very different things I don't deny this is hard work I'm just saying they don't have any extra special skill. Literally everything they're doing can be taught in a community college class over the summer
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Business Insider should do a video about gold jewellery in India, the craftsmanship, the attention to detail and the sheer variety of designs from different states. The sort of jewellery should here would actually be seen as extremely bland and basic.
“This is reason why it cost so much, if any one of these links breaks, you’re gonna have to take it ALL THE WAY back to the soldering table… re-solder it.. and bring it back here and turn it again.”
“You’re wearing someones blood, sweat and tears” Well, lets make bread, $2000/unit at the end you’re eating someones blood, sweat and tears. What a ridiculous way to justify such an overpriced item.
And judging from some of the comments on this video... this particular outfit of Cuban Link jewelers overprice the shit out of their stuff too. Apparently they're the worst of the Cuban Link jewelers in Miami.
Steel mill and metal foundry workers work way more dangerous and in some cases difficult conditions and it seems like the shit they make isn’t worth nearly as much.
While I agree that nothing in the video justifies price tags of like $80k other than the materials I really do not understand why everyone here is acting like making jewelry or working with metal in general is an easy task that anybody can do? I've taken a few courses in metalworking and jewelry making at my college and none of this is as easy as it seems. Even soldering, as basic a skill as it is in that area of work, takes lots of practice to be able to get the feel for when it's right-- after doing it a year I still wouldn't call myself particularly great at it. I can do all the things shown in the video but the chain I make would not come out nearly as good. There IS skill involved and it is pretty insulting to all jewelry artists and metalworkers out there to be keyboard warriors acting like this shit is child's play. Also the fact that people on here are braindead enough to complain that the gold isn't pure--- yall know how soft gold is? My father has a pure real gold ring from Jordan he NEVER wears because it is so soft you could squish it in your hand like putty if you wanted to. Without mixing it with other metals its a horrible material to make jewelry from. The price tag is there simply because people are stupid enough and willing to buy it for that much, that part isn't wrong, there's nothing about it that justifies it being more expensive than most people's yearly income, but the reasons yall are complaining for are just wrong lmfao.
Agreed, I also thought it was kinda marked up but calling even the basics like soldering is hard to do well, it's def not something just anyone can do. I wouldn't pay almost 30k for these chains but people really be insulting an entire industry and art just because these particular jewelers are making exorbitant mark ups. I would say the other jewelers esp those in asia who make much more complicated and time consuming jewelry should price their craft much higher, similar to the prices of these chains
Its not easy make to make jewels but its not as hard as they make it seem to be in the video, 14 hours for completed chain is not that long. Besides these are the most boring and easiest design, their only specialty is their absurd size and weight.
@@seatheparade Everyone's insulting the guys in the video, not every jewel maker out in the world. "Blood, sweat and tears" I can't help but laugh at this.
Now imagine the amount of work and knowledge it takes to make a microprocessor and compare about how much you got charged for compared to these artifacts... let alone the usefulness
Can you imagine trying to get a ring resized with these people? The owner will personally come out and spend 5 minutes telling you how hard it's gonna be but how talented his Metal Smiths are and how they're one of handful of shops in the World that can handle such a big, sophisticated job like Ring Resizing. And how normally shops of their fame and popularity wouldn't even take on jobs like this but because they really value their customers, and because nobody else on the West Coast can perform a Ring Resizing, they'll do it just for you and it'll only be a 3-4 week wait time... Then they'll either steal the miniscule amount of gold they took out of the ring or they'll massively overcharge for the miniscule amount they had to add. Then 6 weeks later when it's ACTUALLY done they'll go 'That'll be $500 thanks.'
AWESOME VIDEO! Where can I find an oval mandrel/copper rod for crafting these links? Are there any stores you know of that sell them, or is it something that needs to be custom-made?
These guys talk about it like theyre building a spaceship. 😂 Soldering metal isnt as hard as you might think. Metal is metal, whether or not humans put different price tags on it, they still generally all work the same. The guy doing your plumbing pipes pretty much does the same thing.
@@pravarsaran No my point was that the documentary presents those guys as jewelers, while those chains are gold plated copper and their skills are more alike to a blacksmith. Jewelcrafting, in my European eyes at least, is more like Cartier or Bulgary were doing. Chainmail blacksmithing isn't in the same category.
@@grsamael Imagine if microchip manufacturers started calling themselves jewlers because they utilise gold in the manufacturing of electronic components :D
Anyone remember the lotus silk vid? Now compare these dude "14 hour of blood sweat and tear", to the lady who labor for 2 months+, making silk by hand cm after cm, to create a scarf that charge for less than a 10th of this chain.
Like fuckin for real dude... These dudes are just clueless...
It's like comparing a kid to an adult, these dudes tripping
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" *price of scarf can go as up as 200$* "
that's nothing for the hard work
This is such epic BS. They use the most basic smithing skills to charge $80K for a damn non-pure gold chain? Come on. Marketing at its worst.
And that guy is crying about it as if they're being forced to do it and that its so hard
@@scottfree6479 exactly I went to Daniels and got a 8mm
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So true lol
It's crazy how the meaning of simple words like "handmade,Craftsmanship, labor intensive and skill...." can change from one country to another
It's Miami bro, hard work is merely conceptual there
Right? Have you seen the homemade feather shuttles video? Those guys made me want to pick up badminton!
_That_ was more craftsmanship than this.
Agreed.
@@frankrosemeck9898 And their price are much cheaper too
The entire process could be automated.
"It's become, in a way, like a status symbol." Jewelry has been that for literally thousands of years lol
Yeah they're saying it as if jewelery isn't suppose to be a status symbol
He's just trying to market more
He's referring specifically to the hip hop industry and rappers alike. A status symbol there, not jewelry in general.
A specific* symbol in hip hop*
😅like they just discovered fire or something
This video actually does a good job of convincing me why these chains are overpriced.
How-
@Anonymous Anonymous i do agree on that but, cmon, these ppl don't do a good job at convincing that their work worth the price of the chain
@@tinybats452 You need to look up some "how they're made" videos of these folks actually making these chains. I saw one once about 20 or so minutes long, IIRC. Absolute works of art. I'd charge that much too if I had to put that much work in. I wouldn't take this video, which only shows about 4 or 5 minutes worth of actual work, seriously as more than hype. Behind the hype is real work and artistry.
@@Vladpryde its literally just a chain in gold
@@tinybats452 So go make one if it's so easy.
“You are wearing someone’s blood, sweat, and tears”
Heard of the sweatshop workers in Asia that make products like shoes, clothes, and a variety of other textile products?
Just by the sound of his voice I could tell he has a criminal record. Hope a cop plants drugs on him to arrest him.
@@JR-xn6yu how could you possibly know someone’s background “by the tone of their voice”?! Please do not wish harm on someone you have never met. Also, planting drugs to arrest someone is illegal
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@1% When did I not acknowledge the efforts of Jamaicans and other LatinX workers? If you want to hyperbolize something THAT ISN’T THERE, go ahead. In applying “you are wearing someone’s blood, sweat, and tears” to Asians, I’m not diminishing the hard work of the aforementioned groups one bit; I’m merely ALSO bringing to attention the plight of sweatshop workers that put in a similar amount of effort, if not more, to provide the daily products you and I use.
@1% if anything, you and I should be raging against the major corporations that skim off the most profit from the fruits of labor of campesinos, miners, sweatshop workers, and many other blue-collar workers that are paid pennies relative to the profits their employer makes. Why rage against me for bringing into attention the plight of my fellow brethren in tandem to yours? Workers globally should unionize to demand fair pay for their labor and adequate protection so the bullshit issues of the gilded age(in American history) won’t perpetuate beyond 2021.
The Ferrari example made me laugh, I'm fine with the one off the lot. They're really trying to justify these prices.
They are not a jewellery company.
They are a marketing company.
@Briscoe17555 I know that. But those chains are not exemplary of a jewelers job.
@Briscoe17555 I was being specific about making the chains with the "one year".
I know you wouldn't become an all around jeweler in one year.
But as well you could learn one of the several disciplines of making shoes in one year. But there are four of them.
@@AllisterCaine To become a master goldsmith it takes 20+ yrs. There's so much more to being a goldsmith then making chains.
🤷🏾♂️the clients they serve buy 200%+ price inflated luxury clothing brands anyways.
Those guys are making it seem harder than it really is
I feel like some blacksmiths and sword smiths create more beautiful art. Its kinda a shame that these chains cost more than somethings that required hundreds of hours to make
All hyped!!
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@@sonnykim6755 they act like a blacksmith for profit.
yea, they said ur taking 14 hours from one persons life to get one chain, but thats just like 2 work days calm down
"Your wearing someone's blood sweat and tears" makes me want to use alcohol hand gel after touching it.
Lol
You mean hand sanitizer
The only people's blood sweat and tears you're wearing is the children that mine the gold in poor countries
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So, the hardest part is to solder a chain shut.
What was I paying for again?
we're gonna pay 80k for a chain because some rappers we barely know also wear them.
I wouldn't pay beyond spot for a 24k gold chain. It's literally a gold chain... no additional value beyond the 5 or so hours they spent on it and the gold itself.
good luck finding that if you ever decide to buy one. i suppose you never pay more than what the ingredients cost a a restaurant for a meal yeah?@@mehmeh1999
This video makes people with even the most basic tools skills look like a professional. Soldering isn't that hard, you're not going to lose a finger to a roller unless you're braindead, and your oxyacetylene torch only heats the thing you point it at.
Exactly my thought
@Jesus Gonzalez Why pay so much for a chain that doesn’t even contain any precious metals like Gold.
I mean, I'm no expert, but I took a short night course to be a machinist, and I feel like most of the guys that completed it could do this with just a little more training on mixing the metals. None of this really looks hard or complicated. I think its largely hype. But, then again, a lot of things are, aren't they?
@Jesus Gonzalez where in India did you see this?
As a certified jeweler I will say every damn thing in this trade is “hard”, and I highly, highly encourage and challenge everyone to attempt to work with metals as a professional.
The reason they're so expensive is because people will buy something expensive in order to tell the world (and themselves), "I'm so successful that I can buy something expensive".
I'm successful. I use an Anker phone charger. 😂👍
And only fools will actually pay the price meanwhile the "experienced people" laugh at how they made easy money for something that isn't actually hard to make
@@nutsandbolts1264 I'd love to see you make that chain
@@helloitsme1130 I know someone who could definitely make that chain. It literally just requires normal metalworking skills.
@@helloitsme1130 Unless they need to replace every single machine and piece of equipment used in the process after every finished piece, paying 80.000 $ or indeed ten times as much (as they say some of them cost) for a chain really makes you the fool.
For that kind of money, you could literally buy the necessary equipment, rent a workshop, hire a group of competent metalworkers and give them a week or two's worth of practice with all of the necessary materials before they make the final product for you, and you'd probably still have saved a bunch of money, let alone have a bunch of metalworking equipment that you could resell for profit.
Literally one of the easiest pieces of handmade jewellery out there... It's a chain... No set gems, no inlays, no variation in size. Dangerous?? Try working in any other type of metal fabrication, this is not dangerous, you are using an oxy torch and a shrinker/stretcher
If your skill is so low that you think it is dangerous, it is a very dangerous task.
This is clearly not dangerous because there is something more dangerous.
/s off
@Jesus Gonzalez i wanna go to india then lol
@@AL-ij2ki if you have any skill or talent than this wouldn't be dangerous. Those who blow glass are in a much more dangerous situation but rarely have anything happen to them because they know what they are doing
Oh, someone has lost a finger in this job?
This is concidered dangerous if you sit in an office all day.
We have a mine right behind our house, when it was still active, my dad and his cousin worked there. (This was well before I was born) The cousin got some of his shirt cought in a conveyor belt, he got pulled in with his whole arm and couldn't free him self.
He died, after he was dragged by the conveyor belt.
This is a dangerous job. Not working with some warm metal and a controllable gas flame a meter away from you.
i made these chains as kid when i was learning to make jewellery at my grand father's shop. I am a 10th generation jeweller from india and these chains are some of the easiest to make. His soder metal is not right that is why it kept on breaking. He should lessen the zinc by 1% copper by 4%and increase the silver by 5% gold remains the same in the sodering metal.
Design charge is much cheaper in India also. 😏
Furthermore we have so many complicated designs in chains, rings, bangles, etc.
Talks about how dangerous this is
Doesn't weare any glasses, gloves or protections
*It takes 5 men to make a cuban chain*
Bobby White: Fine, I'll do it myself.
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@Jesus Gonzalez India has got some of the best jewelers
Cuban link chains are actually very easy to make compared to other jewellery. Their value is in the gold content. They are some of the most basic jewellery to make from an effort and skill pov.
Have you ever tried pass a bar through a rolling machine, and twelve times at that? You need to put it in, and then you need to remember to catch it when it gets out.
Just watch 2:35 and admire the works of a master craftsman.
@@japphan I cant tell if your sarcastic...
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I guess, if you find it hard to put it in, my comment might sound serious.
@@japphan The art of subtle sarcasm isn't totally lost on the internet after all. My faith in humanity is restored.
@@SeanStrife agreed
You're also wearing someone's blood sweat in tears buying new clothes from Gap, Walmart and target lol
They arent ready for that conversation :|
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I want to know what wire they're actually bending in those jigs, and what metal they're "soldering" together. Pure gold, or jewelry grade alloys, don't require nearly that level of effort to bend. Or solder. Sure, it's tricky but so is glassblowing. Once you learn the technique it's second nature. I've worked with metal, many types of metal and I felt like what I was watching was steel or even copper wire links being formed, brazed together, twisted, ground, etc. And then gold plated. But get real, the wire they're working with in this video, it's not gold. And the "that's not dirt on my hands, that's gold!" statement is funny. Tin, lead, bronze, copper, steel, and aluminum are just a few metals that will leave black oxide as a residue, which leads even more to this story smelling fishy.
These guys have skills, don't get me wrong. But these guys are making this process seem like arduous labor that only a few people in the world have the skills to do. Anyone who's worked with real gold is laughing at the iron work and forging going on. "Guys have lost their fingers doing this!". So have chefs, blacksmiths, assembly line workers, iron workers, leather crafters, firefighters, the list goes on and on. Stop the soap opera of trying to sell yourself off as some kind of hero. Look, you spend some time making gold plated chain for overpriced thugs with more money than brains. Count yourself lucky that you can make oodles of cash doing semi-skilled labor producing a way overpriced product that's a "must have bling" for rappers to feel legit. But jeez, stop the superman act. The ego in that shop is about on par with their super star customers, LMAO.
so basically they caught in 4k for selling shit
A whole Bible lol
The dingus turning the heavier guage wire actually called it steel.
He works with a flame? Omg 😱 a flame! Wow my hero!!
Metal fabricators work with electric sparks and momentarily molten metal.
Wow looks like someone's really "IRON"IC
Sarcasm not irony
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They really try to push the idea that is dangerous and hard, ThIs Is WhY sO eXPppeNsIvE pLs PaY tHE PRiCe
As someone who's actually done some jewelry making which included soldering, good lord are these dudes full of shit. Solder has a very low melting point, that's literally what it's made for, if you manage to melt gold while soldering it I'm pretty sure you were trying to do that. Not like polishing it is super hard either, just takes some high grit sandpaper and elbow grease, maybe a buffing wheel
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Full o shet
I do this type of things on my garage and have never burn my hand
@Jesus Gonzalez yes sir! I believe you this is all marketing it is work but not sooo much like that
Health benefit: ...
Higher performance than machine made: ...
High overhead to keep workers safe: ...
Unnecessarily laborious: Yeessss. And its worth it!!!!
If you want to justify high prices of jewelry by labor intensive processes, look into watchmaking... THAT requires skill, not the most basic blacksmithing techniques
Watch making requires such precise movements that it makes me question if the craftsman are really human
There's a reason why blacksmiths don't mess with jewelry and it's because they can't afford it. That's why they stick to metals are that are cheap af go work with.
And so does building a bassoon. If you’ve seen insiders video on oboe making, you’ll know what I’m talking about.
Informal logical Fallacy. Red herring argument. Even if that's true it doesn't negate what they are doing.
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0:39 dude doesn't even know what metals he's working with, shows the level of skill in that workshop
If it were so dangerous they would use PPE, and they could definitely use a bigger drill for those big chains, i can't believe these a holes are ripping people off with these prices.
They are not riping off anyone. There are cheaper ones people just buy this ones for the brand.
Ripping off. These things take time and skill to make. You're paying for materials plus the time to make.
@@lucaskp16 ur the right customers for this scam. Its way overpriced for a gold and metal chain
@@Issabamabeat there's not that much skill involved in this This is literally basic metal craftsmanship they aren't even good at the basics when you consider they think that gold and soda(solder speech to text fail) material melt around the same temperature I have zero experience in metal smithing and I know that they don't melt anywhere near the same temperature hundreds of degrees of difference
@@GARBO96 So you're telling me it doesn't require much skill to make and that you have no skill or actual experience in it... okay lol 🤡
"Just a few people in the world can do what we do" dafuk? Does he thinks he's making a katana, painting a Mona Lisa or some shit? It's just a chain. You ain't that's special.
😂 katana, now that would be aninterestingg piece to make in gold.
you ever made a chain?
@@LirysJewelry you can't make katana out of gold and the process of forging a katana is requires SSS level craftsmanship.
@@ukoysakabo7310 no no, i'm pretty sure we could make a katana outa gold. the price may be a little steep. for the right price anything can be done in gold!
@@LirysJewelry what about out of diamonds... eh I doubt they could cut that mineral up
“People have lost fingers in this business” almost every mechanics fear buddy and I charge 1/10 of what this costs.
no mechanic even charges anywhere near 1/10th of that
No proper mechanic losses fingers.
Ignorance of safety measures is just a show of incompetence.
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Ya but gold isn't loosing value literally everything you work on will end up in a dump some day
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"you are wearing 14 hours of someone life"
Japanese katana master: "weaks"
" why are Cuban link chains so expensive?"
"Just cuz"
I feel the guy who said polishing is their favourite task, mostly because it means the job is finished. 😂
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it's cause he lets everyone else do the hard work and he's super lazy
@@eksine I'm a jeweler and polishing is not the hardest job but it isn't super easy either. A beginner can think that hes done a good job while a professional or a customer can tell its not done right. Especially when its a chain you need to get atleas every visible nook and cranny and you can't have mark showing you polished in certain direction.
Everybody acts like these guys are doing open heart surgery or something..... 12 hours to make a chain..... Well I guess that wouldn't be a bad day for me since I work 16-hour shifts....geeze
16 hours? Damn
Look at the comments again. Lots of people think this is bs
I agree with you but 16 hours? Geezus
$80k chain per shift
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Yeah - every single comment I've seen so far is making fun of these "craftsmen" that are beclowning themselves with ego.
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@@gvs6462 well here in singapore just 2 room flat in a hdb is like 80k somewhere there and thats cheap i think like just a few of those cuban chains is enough for a 2 room
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"Here is where the passion of the jeweler comes into play, into how beautiful he can make it"
Cuts to man brutally filing the chain
I know this reply is late as shit but they also file them all down to exactly the same shit too, like there's no differences between any chain itself aside from material used. Bruh
Lol yeah these idiots are insane at how they dramatize their basic jobs. Lol
It costs so much because some people have too much money and think they are buying bling. Rats have always been attracted to shiny things. If you can solder it, it isn't worth it.
I agree with your point, but I'm pretty sure Rats are more attracted to food. I might be wrong though, I haven't read an article about it yet.
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You can solder pretty much any metal, though.
This comment made no sense
bro you can solder gold on circuitry, and chains and jewellery. is gold not worth it ? now I get why you'd say that for stuff like non gold chains like some wear. but these chains are heavy and thick, gold is costly. most of the cost has to be gold here.
The reason there are only a handful of people that can do this is because it’s sooooo dangerous. I can’t even tell you the death count from making These necklaces. 😂 blôw me
Lol. You said it. This kind of crap...if this sort of baloney doesn’t make you cynical about how stupid people are, few things will.
For reals. I wear a gold wedding ring. It's subtle and classy. The picture of a rapper with a 20pound gold chain. Why even drop 700+ grand on a necklace?
@@JR-xn6yu Well, you pretty much settled the issue right there: rappers and hip-hop artists are not about subtlety.
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Accidents happen, and idiots getting their hands on tools happen too. That’s what protection equipment is for
At the beginning the guy talking about how you're wearing their blood sweat and tears, like, my $4 Walmart shirt from a sweatshop also has someone's blood sweat and tears on it too.
That guy makes it seem like hes making an authentic samurai katana "literally only a handful of people around the world can do this and it takes us the grand total of 14 hours" 🤣
These men are sooooooo over the top dramatic. QUEENS!
Interesting here that "higher end" doesn't necessarily mean "higher quality", it just means "higher priced".
I mean, the series IS called "So Expensive".
*_"It becomes, in a way like a status symbol"_*
They've always been a status symbol
"To legitimize your self as a rapper you have to have jewelry"
Last time I checked you needed actual skill
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"To legitimize yourself as a rapper you need to have jewelry "
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He is white bro...
That alone is more than enough to legitimize him to have status
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tbf they were way overstating that. Ice Cube hardly wears bling either
"My job is so hard. Take me seriously."
*Whips him with a cheap ass chain*
I have a bong that took more than 30hrs of hot, careful craftsmanship to create.
If you drop a gold chain you still have a gold chain. If you drop a bong you just have trash.
@@felixf4378 a materials scientist ehh?
Lmao
@@felixf4378 but he didn't pay 100k for that bong that took wayyy more effort and time.
@@homebodyhero4602or maybe he just sucks at glass work and needed more time?
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Theses guys really made all this look pretty dramatic but it is hard work to be able to master this craft, I'm gonna be making my first Cuban link chain as soon as I can get my hands on silver wire and I gotta say it's probably the easiest possible chain to make out there which is why it'll be my first project. In the jewelry game it's all about how you market yourself and the intricate details in your pieces that seperate you from the rest. I can't wait to be part of this business and create my own jewelry empire, for now I'm sitting at 161 subs but I just can't wait to see where I'll be at in 5 years!
I’ve never asked this question to myself, but my mind suddenly wants to know the answer.
I have a question. Why can't Americans pronounce the word solder?
I've seen jewelers in Guadalajara at work, these guys are medieval, but they probably charging as if they were swiss.
You guys really over exaggerated the difficulty, it’s literally not that hard. You guys are pushing it.
Yeah i mad about this rambling
My dad is a welder and he saw this video and said that it's complete BS. To prove it, he and I made one these chains in our spare time. We used a rusty old chain that we used to lock the workshop and did the process like they did. It's almost identical to what they did and it barely costed us anything for the weekend that we made it on. Like you can probably add up the resources we used to about $50 or something on the equipment and electricity.
People who spend this much money on this is getting scammed, I asked for quote on a Pawnshop on the chain that we did and they offered us like 1k for something that we did on our spare time lmao.
Wow it’s a sad day that two whole morons believed one of the worst fan fictions I’ve even read
"If you mess it up you can't be afraid to go back and do it over" ... Man, these guys are some real Dunning Kruger. There's only a handful doing what they do in their town. They have torches with thousands of degrees of heat. They join gold with solder. Guys have lost fingers. They are epic gods with sacred knowledge. Rappers need their chains for legitimacy. LoL.
1:57 Really? I didn't know that's how skills worked.
"Somebody had to literally take 14 hours of their day running hot steel through machinery to then turn it by hand,..." What the hell does that mean? So they're just gold-filled. They start out as steel and they are coated with gold. It's a plumbing job. Complete bs.
Agree!! Nothing but salesman at work.
Not a plumber 😂😂😂
@@scottfree6479 People like this seem to automatically think "Expensive = Good" and that's good enough.
This guy explains soldering as if it is brain surgery, when it is more comparable to glueing
"To legitimize yourself as a rapper, you have to have jewelry." 😂
This is just another day in the workshop for a jeweler that knows his craft and won't put his fingers through the rolling machine
His finger would come out the machine looking like a Cuban chain
Made with an adjustable wrench and visegrips. Classy.
lol
Exactly, right?
13 hours that it , they be scamming peoples
Workers:-"These are totally hand made yo"
Machines in the background:-"are we a joke to you bro?"
The rappers hustles the people in the comment section and then these guys hustles the rappers. Respect.
This just looks like basic metal work but gold instead of steel
Lol why this guy tryna make it sound so deep, they just bending metal n heating it hahahahahah not tryna be a hater but mans acting like he’s building a rocket xD
You're right and the guy isn't that smart either he thinks gold and solder material melt around the same temperature when there's literally hundreds of degrees of difference at their melting point
@@GARBO96 yh lol like i respect it, its hard labour but thats all it is. Labour. Doesnt really take much skill lol its expensive cus its made of gold n already expensive af so thus they can add a bigger premium lol
@@GARBO96 i think he meant brazing. Maby they use the same folder as the Chain.
Still, what they are doing doesn't look like it's massively difficult. It is still gonna be hard work. But that kinda goes along with working with metals.
@@herpesdergotterbote2719 hard work and skilled work are two very different things I don't deny this is hard work I'm just saying they don't have any extra special skill. Literally everything they're doing can be taught in a community college class over the summer
@@GARBO96 yes.
"Not all Cuban link chains are made equal, some are more equal than others"
Same thing applies to any other product made in Cuba...
I think I read a similar phrase in a book called animal farm
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Business Insider should do a video about gold jewellery in India, the craftsmanship, the attention to detail and the sheer variety of designs from different states. The sort of jewellery should here would actually be seen as extremely bland and basic.
This may sound arrogant but honestly, I see zero reason to make this chain "so expensive"
It's pretty hilarious hearing these guys talk about how hard this basic stuff is.
There is some skill in the craftsmanship, the dangers are pathetic. The price is nothing more than fashion where label is everything.
“This is reason why it cost so much, if any one of these links breaks, you’re gonna have to take it ALL THE WAY back to the soldering table… re-solder it.. and bring it back here and turn it again.”
If filing a chain costs that much imagine how much forging a sword would cost.
“You’re wearing someones blood, sweat and tears” Well, lets make bread, $2000/unit at the end you’re eating someones blood, sweat and tears. What a ridiculous way to justify such an overpriced item.
Uh 14 hours worth of someone’s effort is a pretty good reason.
@@miriammeenattoor2952 Eh no, it ain't that much time for handmade stuff, in fact is kind of standard. These guys overprice their ordinary chains
And judging from some of the comments on this video... this particular outfit of Cuban Link jewelers overprice the shit out of their stuff too. Apparently they're the worst of the Cuban Link jewelers in Miami.
Imagine being so materialistic that your legitimacy as an artist is tied directly to your accessories, not your talent...
Steel mill and metal foundry workers work way more dangerous and in some cases difficult conditions and it seems like the shit they make isn’t worth nearly as much.
Couldn’t agree more with the last advice tip. Suppliers are key to your business.
While I agree that nothing in the video justifies price tags of like $80k other than the materials I really do not understand why everyone here is acting like making jewelry or working with metal in general is an easy task that anybody can do? I've taken a few courses in metalworking and jewelry making at my college and none of this is as easy as it seems. Even soldering, as basic a skill as it is in that area of work, takes lots of practice to be able to get the feel for when it's right-- after doing it a year I still wouldn't call myself particularly great at it. I can do all the things shown in the video but the chain I make would not come out nearly as good. There IS skill involved and it is pretty insulting to all jewelry artists and metalworkers out there to be keyboard warriors acting like this shit is child's play. Also the fact that people on here are braindead enough to complain that the gold isn't pure--- yall know how soft gold is? My father has a pure real gold ring from Jordan he NEVER wears because it is so soft you could squish it in your hand like putty if you wanted to. Without mixing it with other metals its a horrible material to make jewelry from. The price tag is there simply because people are stupid enough and willing to buy it for that much, that part isn't wrong, there's nothing about it that justifies it being more expensive than most people's yearly income, but the reasons yall are complaining for are just wrong lmfao.
Agreed, I also thought it was kinda marked up but calling even the basics like soldering is hard to do well, it's def not something just anyone can do. I wouldn't pay almost 30k for these chains but people really be insulting an entire industry and art just because these particular jewelers are making exorbitant mark ups. I would say the other jewelers esp those in asia who make much more complicated and time consuming jewelry should price their craft much higher, similar to the prices of these chains
Its not easy make to make jewels but its not as hard as they make it seem to be in the video, 14 hours for completed chain is not that long. Besides these are the most boring and easiest design, their only specialty is their absurd size and weight.
@@seatheparade Everyone's insulting the guys in the video, not every jewel maker out in the world. "Blood, sweat and tears" I can't help but laugh at this.
Cuban: I'm going to make this gold chain. It gonna be my blood sweat and tears India: hold my beer
Now imagine the amount of work and knowledge it takes to make a microprocessor and compare about how much you got charged for compared to these artifacts... let alone the usefulness
Can you imagine trying to get a ring resized with these people? The owner will personally come out and spend 5 minutes telling you how hard it's gonna be but how talented his Metal Smiths are and how they're one of handful of shops in the World that can handle such a big, sophisticated job like Ring Resizing. And how normally shops of their fame and popularity wouldn't even take on jobs like this but because they really value their customers, and because nobody else on the West Coast can perform a Ring Resizing, they'll do it just for you and it'll only be a 3-4 week wait time...
Then they'll either steal the miniscule amount of gold they took out of the ring or they'll massively overcharge for the miniscule amount they had to add. Then 6 weeks later when it's ACTUALLY done they'll go 'That'll be $500 thanks.'
AWESOME VIDEO! Where can I find an oval mandrel/copper rod for crafting these links? Are there any stores you know of that sell them, or is it something that needs to be custom-made?
Why is it so expensive?...
2kg of gold: Am I a joke to you??
These guys talk about it like theyre building a spaceship. 😂 Soldering metal isnt as hard as you might think. Metal is metal, whether or not humans put different price tags on it, they still generally all work the same.
The guy doing your plumbing pipes pretty much does the same thing.
4:16 it’s not that it’s a soft material, it’s just soft for a metal. It’s the same hardness as aluminum, no one says aluminum is soft
Umm aluminum is really soft. It's
Aluminium is soft, you can bend it with pliers and almost no force.
@@Xergecuz My aluminum baseball bat begs to differ sir. Pliability is not the same thing as softness anyway
@@colinmurphy2214 Hit a rock and see how it bends.
@@colinmurphy2214 There's no way it's pure aluminum, it will be an alloy with something like iron added for hardness.
2:24 lucky hes got safety glasses on then aye
I paid $800 for a 100g Cuban link chain in 1996, Raekwon put me on to this with his album title. I think that same chain is now like $4000. Lmao
watched hundreds of these cuban link vids... this Business insider video is definitely the most detailed!
Wow. You've wasted your life, bud.
This is just a whole lot of hype for something that can be mechanized and made more precise with machinery.
Craftsmanship?
Louis-François Cartier must be laughing his ass somewhere up there...! >_
Why? Genuinely curious, like was he into mechanising jobs or what?
@@pravarsaran No my point was that the documentary presents those guys as jewelers, while those chains are gold plated copper and their skills are more alike to a blacksmith. Jewelcrafting, in my European eyes at least, is more like Cartier or Bulgary were doing. Chainmail blacksmithing isn't in the same category.
@@grsamael
Imagine if microchip manufacturers started calling themselves jewlers because they utilise gold in the manufacturing of electronic components :D
“Cuban link chains are from Cuba”
Ah yes, the air is made of air.
No, you're supposed to say the air is from the air.
Well explained, thanks. Greetings from Peru.
Jewelry is the ultimate symbol of "Hey, everybody! Look at me! Look at how successful I am! Validate me!"
“There have been people who have lost fingers, in this... _points to machine_
Me: 🙂
*bUsInEsS*”
Me: 🙃
...because people are willing to pay that much.
I get the whole its handmade thing but some of this process could be automated and probably be better quality for it
It really could not
I don't care if they are machine-made or hand-made if they look the same
Those are called Cuban link chains? I thought they were called bling bling.
0:52 isn't this the case for every single product, ever made, ever?
( aside from things built by robots on an assembly line )
You don't wear most things around your neck and I'd doubt the passion thing on many mass produced products.
@@Guuggel
In a way I find it hard to believe that pumping out such profitable goods is mainly motivated by passion