History of Manchester - 2. A Tale of Two Ditches

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  • @georgemilo7649
    @georgemilo7649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Give this man a TV series. Best channel I've found in a while!

    • @topshot2787
      @topshot2787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just came here and subbed after watching Martin Zero. His channel is a belter for info on local places of historical interest of industry and the countryside. Just come across Bee Here Now today but been watching Martin Zero for a long while. He shows us brilliant places of local history with all the info and diagrams. Brilliant to put your feet up to with a with a cuppa and a biscuit or bit of cake. All the best from lancashire.

  • @tysondundas1947
    @tysondundas1947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I worked in Manchester for a year and wish these videos existed then. There is so much I've learned and now know i missed so much.

  • @llay101
    @llay101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dude, how the hell have you only got 1600 subscribers? I'm hooked and am working my way thru all your vids on my dinner hour!! Keep up the good work

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha thanks very much!

    • @nickolasgus2711
      @nickolasgus2711 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont know if you guys gives a shit but if you are bored like me atm then you can stream all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been watching with my girlfriend these days =)

    • @theodorecoen2793
      @theodorecoen2793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Nickolas Gus Yea, I have been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself :)

  • @nicknewton7189
    @nicknewton7189 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really enjoyed that,thankyou 👍✌️

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just subscribed, great videos. Lots of info and enjoyable narration....... Thanks

  • @pa486
    @pa486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant vids. So informative and enjoyable to watch. Also love the music & editing. 👍

  • @lukeneild9918
    @lukeneild9918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Similar to previous comments, I've just discovered your channel. As a Mancunian, I'm surprised by how little I know about my city. Instant subscriber.

    • @lukeneild9918
      @lukeneild9918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just to add, I worked in the school next to the ditch (Melland high school) I can assure you we knew exactly what the ditch was when I worked there.

  • @liamthomas-fn7fc
    @liamthomas-fn7fc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very informative videos, I know of strawberry studios in greater Manchester where 10cc used to record their music, it became their home studio. Joy division, the smiths, the moody blues and Paul McCartney recorded there as well.

  • @kaiagretekukker7075
    @kaiagretekukker7075 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for the informational video! I'm going to Manchester in a couple of days and I already feel nostalgic about a city I've never actually been to yet. I like this Oasis pun in your username!

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha thanks! Its a great place. Just hope you get some sunshine!

  • @David-jb5dv
    @David-jb5dv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. I've learnt so much about this great city

  • @Nathan.Manchester
    @Nathan.Manchester 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video- I liked and subscribed 👍

  • @jerrywierzi5142
    @jerrywierzi5142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love a trip around Manchester withyou mate. Great storry telling skills!👍

  • @bernieweaver8488
    @bernieweaver8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just found your channel and really enjoying the videos I've watched so far , keep up the good work 👍

  • @michelet6806
    @michelet6806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this video! Keep this up, I'm following your channel, this is AMAZING 😊

  • @grumpybore863
    @grumpybore863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just had this vlog of yours show up in my "recommended" TH-cam videos. most channels never catch my attention, but yours has, and I've subscribed. looking forward to going through your older vids and catching up!

  • @madelinemccormackward5281
    @madelinemccormackward5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it great way of telling History 😊

  • @UniversalExports
    @UniversalExports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was brilliant thanks for posting. 👍

  • @paulwarren3106
    @paulwarren3106 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant! Love this!

  • @johnnewton3335
    @johnnewton3335 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it always fascinates me that these diches are so strait and almost never built on as you pointed out. maybe part of a ley line ?

  • @shal7321
    @shal7321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top History! Really enjoy your stuff [praise indeed from a scouser]

  • @bernardmcmahon5377
    @bernardmcmahon5377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation thanks, you’re very, very good at explaining these documentaries

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you that's very nice to say. Cheers!

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you that's very nice to say. Cheers!

  • @plester3257
    @plester3257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, very informative and easy to follow with your maps. Have subscribed, look forward to hearing more about Manchester history!

  • @p166mx
    @p166mx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Parts of the ditch are still visible on Ryebank Fields in Chorlton. It also appears to feature old maps from the early 1900s. It appears this part of the ditch was one of the last parts of it to be built over.

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amazing! Great info. I'll check that out. I don't live very far from there

  • @nigelericogden3200
    @nigelericogden3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father, born in Worsley, looked all the world like a Viking, and I’ve had a kind of romantic notion that were descended from the Scandinavians, Manchester being part, as you say, of the Danelaw. These thin slithers of history that you point to Ollie are in some ways the most fascinating.

  • @Zentron
    @Zentron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been visiting Gorton these past couple of years for my investigations and excavations of Hyde Road Railway Station on the Fallowfield Loop, I never knew that ditch was there. I think this Sunday, if I have the time after I come out of the underground chamber of the station, I might pop down to the ditch and have a mooch around, I'm not too far away!

  • @futurenewmedia
    @futurenewmedia 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting and well edited 👍 Keep posting and it won’t be long till you surpass Martin Zero. I love Manchester’s Victorian industrial past but find it harder to gain much insight further back in time ... make that your niche 🤩

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey that's lovely to hear! I will certainly try my best, though like you say, it's very difficult to pick out history in Manchester before the eighteenth century.

  • @bill-2018
    @bill-2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So many historical things lost. Nico Ditch filled in and mostly gone. At 6.50, I bet most people walking there don't know or care about the history of it. Too many don't care about yesterday and are only interested in today, and don't even care about tomorrow.
    The area around Manchester Cathedral is nice.
    I remember the Old Wellington pub and Sinclair's Oyster Bar being moved from their original location and going up some wide concrete steps when I first started going drinking and went in at their original location. It must have been in the 1970's. There is something about Byrom looking out and seeing Jacobites passing by.

  • @Roddersville
    @Roddersville 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting stuff...👍🏻

  • @chrism8705
    @chrism8705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant

  • @richardjellis9186
    @richardjellis9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It probably DID carry water. Just as it does In the cemetery.
    Not as a water course, but it would have filled up in parts with rainwater. Which would have been a good thing, as it would have made crossing it just that much harder.!🤔!.
    What do you think to this.?🤔?.
    Love your videos mate.
    Rich🥰🥰🥰.

  • @scenesbybri354
    @scenesbybri354 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh you said it! Next to Mellons it 8s still very deep!

  • @tonea1976
    @tonea1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to see a vid with you and Martin zero

  • @johnnyreggae969
    @johnnyreggae969 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve lived in Manchester all my life and I’ve never heard of nico ditch
    I’m going looking for it now I live very near Denton golf course
    Thank you

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha okay but it's not very impressive! It's good hunting it down but it's probably the worst historical attraction in the country

  • @nicholasjones7312
    @nicholasjones7312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems curious that Mercia had two other boundary ditches (albeit with ramparts) along the Welsh frontier in the form of Watt’s Dyke and Offa’s Dyke, so why not a northern boundary too? Those ancient boundaries with Wales are respected throughout the ages by more modern boundaries, just like the ones you highlighted.

  • @RingwayManchester
    @RingwayManchester 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Martin Zero did this with all the magnum fossata stuff

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nice one I've just watched it. He covers it much better than I do. I love his videos and the ones you've done with him too!!

    • @cubicinches18
      @cubicinches18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BeeHereNowuk All of you guys do a great job of telling that history which is all too often omitted from the mani stream docco makers and history tellers. All of you keep up the great work

  • @steveygee1
    @steveygee1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos. From Newcastle but living in Manchester for 7 years now, interested in the history.
    Also somewhat of an ASMR effect.

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh good to know 😂 Thanks for watching it :)

    • @steveygee1
      @steveygee1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂

  • @johnrooney1860
    @johnrooney1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video. Born moss side Manchester john Rooney st.annes Lancashire UK

  • @martinfitzpatrick1551
    @martinfitzpatrick1551 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HI, I like the videos you are doing please do more. I have a small challenge. On Ashton old road opposite the mercedes benz showroom and next to a car wash business is the side of a bridge. Behind it there appears to be a train/container. It is gated on one side. I was wondering if you wanted to solve this puzzle of what it is and why it is there??? I discovered it myself but havent managed to get further with its purpose. So, are you up for the challenge to research it and post a video about it??. Many Thanks, martin.

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think I know where you mean? Is it in the trees?

    • @martinfitzpatrick1551
      @martinfitzpatrick1551 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeeHereNowuk Hi, It is overgrown yes. I was going to go back with a camera on a stick to get a closer look inside the train-like structure. Im not brave enough to jump over. Thankyou for your reply. I did find a map of the area but it didnt shed any new light on it. I know that one end is gated off with something modern though. :)
      .

  • @pscott000
    @pscott000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, Friedrich Engels hung out in Manchester?... I worked in Barmen (Wuppertal) for 14 years, the first of which was actually on Friedrich-Engels-Allee.

  • @alanstarkie2001
    @alanstarkie2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Old Shambles was moved in the late 60's or early 1970s from what was called St Mary's Gardens. I remember it in the original location. One of my teachers (Broughton Modern), a well known Salford artist, went onto the building site before the Shambles was moved and picked up what looked like an old tap washer. When he gave it a wash at home, he found it to be a diamond-encrusted piece of jewellery that had been reported lost (I think) by a Spanish noblewoman who stayed there in medieval times. He told me at the time that it may or not be 'treasure trove'. 10 (Radcliffe House) house-points to anyone who went to that school who can name the teacher!

  • @cosmicbaggy9637
    @cosmicbaggy9637 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    aaah, now i understand the name of the one time wine merchants/bar (Hanging ditch) next to the cathedral.

  • @davidhartley5045
    @davidhartley5045 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi and a big thanks for all your interesting videos, gives Martin Zero a run for his money,,, which is another down to earth brill TH-cam'er just wondering where the map of ye'old French owned Manchester came from. The very top of it shows 1300s Dunkenhalgh. Regards David

  • @duxberry1958
    @duxberry1958 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i believe were Hunts Bank and Walkers Croft is it was used as a burial site the plague ...

  • @deewhite2873
    @deewhite2873 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Channel is my new vice

  • @Rpboc
    @Rpboc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After watching this and Martin Zeros video, I decided to go and find Nico Ditch for myself in Platt Fields. I found what I believe to be a bit of the ditch which isn’t fenced in and I stood inside it.. Please can I send you an email with some photos to see what you think? 😃

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah sure! Love to see them

    • @Rpboc
      @Rpboc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bee Here Now what’s your email address please?

    • @BeeHereNowuk
      @BeeHereNowuk  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi its beeherenowuk@gmail.com

    • @Rpboc
      @Rpboc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bee Here Now I’ve emailed you

  • @scenesbybri354
    @scenesbybri354 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can see this ditch much clearer on the levenshulme Gorton border across the road from the highschool :

  • @mikethepsych2084
    @mikethepsych2084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you should link up with another Mancunian TH-camr called Martin zero, he's just like you but nearly twice your age.

  • @duxberry1958
    @duxberry1958 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i,ll taking a look at Red Lion Brook and Chorlton Brook and were it joins the River Mersey in a few weeks time ...i dont do videos i have a Stammer ...

  • @scenesbybri354
    @scenesbybri354 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh you even went there... should have waited before commenting

  • @sailing_raptor
    @sailing_raptor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Angles and the Saxons were two different tribes; the Angles being from Britain and the Saxons being form Germany. The Anglo Saxons were the product of invasion of the lands of the Angles, by the Saxons and by settling in Britain and 'mixing' with the Angles, the combination of both becoming what is known as the Anglo Saxons.
    In conclusion, nowhere has ever been invaded by the Anglo Saxons.

    • @Gnurftl
      @Gnurftl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Uhmm - Angeln is a strip of land between Flensburg und Schleswig on the jutish peninsula, just north of the biggest trade point of the viking time, Haithabu. The Angel-Sachsen (anglo-saxons) were both folk from what is now Germany and southern Denmark.

    • @ronhall9394
      @ronhall9394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry but that doesn't agree with any accounts I've heard - Angles, Frisians, Jutes and Saxons were all Germanic tribes that crossed the German Bight and settled/slaughtered (depending which theory you prefer). The Angles were in the North - Northumbria, Mercia and East Anglia, the Saxons mainly in the south.
      I suppose you are right that the 'Anglo-Saxons' didn't invade - but the Angles and Saxons definitely did.

  • @HYSTERIA-we6fg
    @HYSTERIA-we6fg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A ditch of that magnitude must've been a defensive ditch why else make it. Plus it acts as a clear border between North and south.

  • @peterfryer9615
    @peterfryer9615 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought it was mancunium

  • @richardjellis9186
    @richardjellis9186 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "a gift to the people".??.
    More likely to be his (hopefull) ticket to heaven.!😂!.
    Rich 🥰🥰🥰.

    • @totherarf
      @totherarf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing really.
      Back then people were encouraged to do Pilgrimage to the Holy Land ... but the Church saw a way of capitalizing on it and would accept gifts and monies instead of pilgrimage and give dispensation to the person involved to be going "upstairs" rather than the other place ;0)

  • @LUVCHUNK
    @LUVCHUNK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just saw martinzeros video who is ripping off who here coz summat smells funky

    • @cubicinches18
      @cubicinches18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Martin made his vid in 2018 but I don't think it matters because the same subject can be viewed and presented in many perspectives and when comes to the neglected real, industrial and social histories of Manchester the more people telling the story the better. I also like the younger perspectives of Mancunian history as told by Curbex (Connor)