When I played Pokemon Blue the first time as a kid in 1998, Pidgeot was my last surviving Pokemon when I defeated the Rival in the Top4, it finished off the Rival's Venusaur with a Wing Attack. That memory is engraved in my brain and because of it, Pidgey and it's evolutions have and always will have a place in my heart :D
When you were talking about the middle evolutions, you forgot a couple. The Nidos. Though the one's I'm looking forward to the most are Poliwhirl and Weepinbell.
Hey Scott, did you know there is ONE way to delete an HM from a Pokémon's moveset. The condition is your Pokémon still has a move to learn by level up. Drop the Pokémon at the day care, possibly a few EXP before the level it learns its new move, one the Pokémon has grown to the level it learns a new move, the first move in its moveset is deleted. Probably useless in these solo runs but still pretty cool.
I don't think Scott is allowing the use of the daycare, so that's not an option either. But it's pretty useful, I remember using it myself back in the days.
@@shoblette961 probably too inconsistent, requires you to have another available move slot for mimic, a very limited selection of moves to take from agatha, and finally there's only 2 more fights left in the game so is it really worth it?
This was a satisfying run to watch, even if Pidgeotto wasn’t that good. I tend to prefer the slow and steady approach more, prioritizing consistency, rather than going for sheer luck. As for the Poké Maniac that greets you in Rock Tunnel, I’d name him Sloan: Slo- as in his Slowpoke and the -oan as in Cubone (this is more phonetic, but I thought it was pretty clever.) Also a spoiler: I like that Pidgeotto is a Flying type that didn’t need to use Double Team to beat Giovanni! Always nice when that happens.
Two name suggestions for the Pokemaniac in Rock Tunnel: the Slowbone Maniac, or the Mud Maniac. The first because it is fun to say and an on-brand level of juvenile, the second because he is not noteworthy for any particular strategy he wanted the fusing, but because the particular type combination he uses is annoying for a wider variety of Pokemon than most random trainers... water, and ground. Mud.
Here's am explanation for why physical moves hit ghost types: In order for the ghosts to actually hit other pokemon, they have to materialize, since ghosts can't usually interaxt with the physical world. Normal type is the exception both ways because they are opposites, so the farthest from the ghosts immaterial bodies.
Hey just wanted to say- of the hundreds of Pokemon speedrun/nuzlocke/ other challenges, you have by far the best interface which makes it super easy to follow along. Keep up the great work!
This channel has increased my knowledge of the first games. When he said that he would be saving sand stacks for later in the battle, I was like "oh! For Bide, since it bypasses accuracy checks!" Thanks Scott!
Pidgeotto is actually my favorite pokemon. Not that it's great in battle, but it was the first pokemon I saw that I was really impressed with when I first saw the anime. It was the mt moon episode. Pikachu looked weird, Zubat was... just a blue bat. Staryu was sort of interesting, meowth was just a talking cat... But Pidgeotto looked so cool to me (even though it's just a bird with neat hair). I liked it more than its final evolution since I felt that look seemed a bit too chunky appearing. It's cool to see some of the strategy you use with Pidgeotto! Also regarding the Pokemaniac... How about Manny the Maniac? Just for alliteration, no real reason otherwise.
Once again, I can't emphasize enough how much your channel has improved since your first vids ! Since we're talking about birds, when will come Dodrio (the best gen 1 bird) ? Maybe a race Magneton Vs Dugtrio VS Dodrio as the "race of the 3 of a kind" would be cool (and I think I remember you haven't done any of these in your channel)
I like to think of Flying types as being a combination of "Bird" and "Air" attacks, like Wing Attack and Gust, Brave Bird and Hurricane, etc. It obviously makes sense for "Air" attacks to hit Ghost types.
I love these videos and your commentary so much! You are intelligent, and all of your analysis are sensible. Whenever you upload, I'm 100% confident that I'm tuning in for a good video.
Interestingly they planned to make more 3 stage Pokémon in gen 1, meowth, vulpix, growlithe and ponyta all had pre evolutions that were cut. I think i remember reading that they did have to cut some Pokémon so i think they made the right choice for variety`s sake.
Pidgeotto has a special place in my heart. It was my first capture in yellow and in the franchise. Love this bird to the point I either won't evolve it or nickname it Pidgeotto so it holds that name for ever. Definitely my preferred flying companion.
This brings back so many memories! My first ever victory against Brock in Pokemon Yellow was with a sand attacking Pidgeotto! I can still remember how big of a strategist nine year old me felt on that day lol
In my very first playthrough of _Pokémon Yellow_ in my youth, I remember soloing Surge with my Pidgeotto. I knew it was theoretically a bad idea, but I wanted those style points.
First time I ever did a Nuzlocke was on the Yellow Virtual Console entry when it came to the 3DS. I didn't realise species clause covered the whole family, so I thought for example, that if you encountered Caterpie on Route 2, then Metapod in Viridian Forest, they wouldn't activate the Species Clause so they would both count as your encounters. I didn't realise the Nuzlocke starts when you get Pokeballs, so I thought I blew through my route 1 encounter. My route 22 encounter was Spearow, my route 2 encounter was Pidgey, and would you believe, but my very first encounter in Viridian Forest was Pidgeotto and I actually managed to catch it when my Pikachu had just 1HP left. This meant my team for Brock was Pikachu, Spearow, Pidgey and Pidgeotto, and I was so pleased of my sand attack/growl/tail whip strategy that managed to get by without any casualties. I kept the Pidgeotto right up until Giovanni where he wiped out my whole team.
The Pidgey line will always be special because of Twitch Plays Pokemon. Hard to believe it was already 10 years ago. Bird Jesus was so memorable in that playthrough and it was awesome seeing so many people love Pidgeot so much.
I always thought it was a cool that you could find one at level 9 in Viridian Forest in Pokémon Yellow in yet another nod to the anime. I mentioned that as a kid, I always grinded my Pikachu to level 20 (one tradition I still keep alive on all Yellow playthroughs to this day), but back in the day, I also always caught a level 6 Caterpie (to grind and evolve into a Butterfree, which I still do on all playthroughs), a Mankey with Low Kick and Pidgeotto. I never really used any of them outside of the Butterfree for even the early game, but they made it easier to get the 10 Pokémon needed to get Flash, so that made one leg of my journey easier.
I pronounced it "Pidgey-auto" as a kid until hearing Ash say it the canonical way enough. And you're right that it should have been the name for the final form.
I've come to prefer every other Kanto bird, especially Doduo, but Pidgeotto does remain in my heart as part of my first ever Pokémon team (Ivysaur, Beedrill, Raichu, Dugtrio, Vaporeon and Pidgeotto). Said Pidgeotto also knew Razor Wind because I insisted that such a cool sounding attack must be good... it was not. 1:16 - That's an interesting stat trivia. It would also explain why the Pidgey line never came across as too great compared to the other birds, but at least it's Special stat serves some purpose in being it's Special Defence as well. 4:16 - Oh yeah, Jolteon has Thunder instead of Magneton with it's Thunderbolt. It's risky to bank on it but a chance to miss being hit by Thunder is certainly the better of the two options. 7:57 - Never understood why the likes of Sand Attack or Confuse Ray could hit Flying and Normal types respectively. What's the point of giving status moves a type if they don't effect things. 10:09 - Your delivery of this joke was perfect. Thanks for the good laugh and sorry about your misfortune. 11:41 - Funny thing about the Pidgey line's move-set is that it doesn't get much better in terms of diversity in later games. I'm also trying to think of what moves the Pidgey could have been given back in Gen 1, TM or otherwise, that would have been both handy and make sense but I'm struggling to think of any. Double Kick and Blizzard would have been a stretch but maybe; perhaps even Submission. I still think Razor Wind should have been a Dragon move. 12:50 - I don't know why but my first thought was Scully. To be fair, Rapping Lass is technically not a name either; more of a title. He's the one who says the "Game Over" line I believe so perhaps the Gamer Maniac? Both his Pokémon are very slow so maybe Sluggish Maniac instead? 17:02 - That 60 Special surprisingly being useful. Good on Mid the sand chucking Pidgeotto for besting the fully evolved Electric type with only a 4 level difference. 24:02 - Out of context, it's hilarious hearing how your strategy involves not levelling up in the midst of battle. You're stronger by not gaining experience and learning. It's been interesting watching this run with Pidgeotto as you've been so careful and meticulous with this first run to the point that I'm unsure how you would improve things on a second go. 29:59 - Good old reliable Mimic; been a while since I watched one of your videos where that came into play but Pidgeotto needs something for it's moveset. An yes, I can imagine Rhydon being the biggest obstacle for Flying and Normal only bird. 31:05 - Pidgeotto's tanking of Rock Slides and Thunderbolts in this run has been impressive. 35:26 - Given Aerodactyl waiting around the corner, it did seem like Hydro Pump would have been the better option here. Of course, said move isn't handy for the Dragons and you'd have to hope Fly would be enough for them. Really tricky to figure out until you've had a chance to experiment. 35:55 or you can steal Ice Beam which is significantly better here. 43:07 - I didn't think there would be much you could do to improve your time but these earlier Rare Candies to have a quick win over the roadblock that was Blaine looks like you'll be making significant improvements. 47:35 - Again, really surprised and impressed you managed to make improvements given how optimal you were doing things in your first run. 49:08 - Wow, Pidgeotto did so poorly that you noticed an error with Pidgeot and ended up placing it lower on the Tier List.
When I was a kid, Pidgeotto always came across as a rare strong pokemon because it's original pokemon card was a "star" or rare, unlike most other mid stage pokemon. Either way, I'm a sucker for the early game bird Mon. I always use them on my first play through
Not sure if I'm who you were talking about, but I definitely told my story about Pidgeot, and why it came to be one of my favorites, in the Pidgeot/Fearow versus video! I know it's not a great Pokemon, but it will always have a special place in my heart. Still sad I never managed to get that bird to 100 before someone stole the copy of Silver I had transferred it to.
Great video Scott! I have a question about your tier list so far. With so many E tier Pokémon and the lack of B tier, are you going to reshuffle/change the times when you finish Gen 1 so it’s more balanced out?
never realized how few middle evolutions there were... holy moly! there just went 25 oder 26 years of my live believing that 3 stage evolutionary lines were the usual case...
I love how you use Giovanni at Silph as your litmus test. I've never really played gen 1, but in the gen 3 games, he consistently annihilated my teams.
I cant imagine that noone claimed my favourite Pokemon Roserade already from the patreons btw i love your videos and your strategys espacially the exeggcute video, loved that one keep up the work and i am looking forward for your completion of every tierlist pokedex in every generation
This is how I beat Yellow as a kid. Pikachu was useless against Brock and I got upset with Pikachu. I ended up catching a Pidgy and that Pidgy ended up defeating Brock. I immediately put Pikachu in the PC and never saw Pikachu again. I do that run once a year and have for like twenty years now :).
My first game as a kid was Pokémon Blue. I remember only leveling up my Blastoise and Pigeot. (And then later Mewtwo.) I knocked out all the legendary birds because I didn’t realize they were static one-time encounters, RIP.
Golem would be a great offensive guard. Heavy, stocky, long arms and extremely strong. Prior experience in “floating/levitating” so has great potential in a pulling or zone run schemes.
Wholesome storytime for any other Poké OGs out there: So in the Gen 1 days, Pidgeotto was my favorite, with Butterfree and Dragonite behind, all because of the Anime. Fast-forward to Gen 2, I'm walking around with a trio that are to-this-day my 5 favorites-- Croconaw, Sneasel, Lugia, Suicune and Ampharos. For whatever reason, I find myself back in Viridian Forest, where I encounter my first-ever legit random shiny... Pidgey. Sure, it was a bad shiny, but you know I evolved it to Pidgeotto right then and there. And somehow, some way, that was the team I used to take down Red for the first time.
Not a big fan of flying/normal types. ;) but I hope this proves me wrong! Prediction: + Viridian city rival fight + Viridian forest + Erika + sand attack cheesing + Giovanni gym fight + Koga - Brock gym fight - Mt Moon - learnset through level up - Lt Surge - Rock tunnel - Elite 4: Lorelei and Lance
How much could switching to Gust during Bide help? I'm assuming you out speed the Onix. If not, however, would Onix take one less hit during Bide, or was the damage already done too much to even matter considering that? Love watching your runs, haven't commented in awhile, but I just love your growth as a content creator. All the love ❤
Thinking about middle stages gave me an idea: Crobat in Yellow. Golbat is not great however Crobat is, it would be interesting to see how that speedy monster fares in a Kanto solo run.
Hey Scott, do you EVER fight the trainers in the maze south of Lavender Town/east of Fuscia? I'm just randomly remembering a question someone asked a few months ago about the least-fought trainers, and I don't think I've ever seen you battle those guys.
On the topic of regional birds, part of me wonders how Noctowl and Swellow will handle their respective regions. Wonder if pre-poisoning strats would be allowed for the latter to abuse Guts.
Might I make a tiny suggestion? :3 When putting up the time between playthroughs, would it be a good idea have the "- Time" be in green, and have "+ Time" be in red? Here, pigeotto had a faster second run, and I'd argue displaying it's -9:35 real time, it's -9 resets and -0:16 game time in green would seem better and clearer than having it in red. But lovely video as always, and already looking forward to the next! Cheers!
I never had a Pidgeotto playing R/B as a kid. I always preferred Spearow. You could catch it at level 5 and peck was super handy for all the bug and grass types you encounter in the early-game.
Really like your videos :) Recently found them, and like them a bunch. I'm planning my own idea for a run of Gen 1 with a ruleset I've seen no one run before, but I need a bunch of info that's hard to find 😅 Good job on your videos :) Your layouts are dope.
I remember caching a Pidgeotto in the forest in Pokémon Yellow,and I was so excited! However, even as a small child I quickly realized by mid game how trash this Pokémon actually is. He was basically a dead weight, low level fly muel by Vermillion city.
Every time I play Generations 1 or 2 I usually use a Pokémon from the Pidgey line as my flier. Turns out I was looking at it through rose tinted glasses, but the game definitely gave it a hard time with that move set too.
do you think there would ever be a need for separate tier lists for first stage second stage and third stage Pokémon? or would it get too confusing because of single stage Pokémon and Pokémon that only evolve once.
I thought about this, but I came to the conclusion that I like to see theinteraction between first-stage Pokemon and final stage Pokemon. It's interesting seeing just how back Hitmonchan is and how strong Poliwag and Bellsprout are when compared with the likes of Arcanine and Rapidash!
On my very first playthrough on pokemon blue, i caught a level 2 pidgey as my first new pokemon. Unfamiliar with the game I went into the rename menu, but i didn't want to actually give it a name. Being very young at the time, i tried to spell it the name as best as i could... And so began the legend of piggy the bird pokemon. Piggy stayed with me the whole game, and for some reason i chose not to evolve it (like my own Pikachu). Pretty much every game i play when i can catch a pidgey, I'll now name it piggy. Piggy was also the only pokemon i transferred through to my silver version and used, though i did start evolving it in silver from level 80
Hell yeah. Been doing stuff like this for years. Love beating the game with just 1 weak mon. I like to make it harder and no using items in battle to include held items.
Agility raises your speed right, so does it up critical when your maxed out or else critical hits only depend on base speed of the pokemon ? I always wanted to know this because if it raises critical like how im hoping it could make some crappy mons better like this pigeotto , agility , reflect , sand attack , rest, could be some useful for this no move bird. Sky attack for a flying move? I would
I used to use pidgeotto because ash had one. When it evolved I was so excited 🥰 -when I grew up all I could see were stats… Pidgey line had good hair though
22:00 Geez, is that Gen 1 Koga or Gen 2?! I don't think I've ever seen Koga abuse that so much in Yellow, but its, almost ironically, his strategy in Gen 2.
This reminds me of the first time I played pokemon Yellow. I didn't understand types or anything, so I just tried to beat Brock with a Pikachu and a Pidgeotto. Iirc they were around level 16-20 before I finally won.
I forgot Nidorino & Nidorina!
I came to comment this just now
I love how you take the dome fossil every time; it seems like a friendly jab to MDB
Nido fans in shambles
@@hippotuskman7808 It's also a reference back to Omastar vs Kabutops!
Those two bring the total to 16.
I foresee an extreme amount of sand-attack usage and praying to RNG-esus
You mean Bird Jesus?
@@uli11 RNG-esus
@@uli11 🤣
This. I remember being scared of this bird because of losing to it multiple times from sand-attack spam.
@@uli11 praise helix
When I played Pokemon Blue the first time as a kid in 1998, Pidgeot was my last surviving Pokemon when I defeated the Rival in the Top4, it finished off the Rival's Venusaur with a Wing Attack. That memory is engraved in my brain and because of it, Pidgey and it's evolutions have and always will have a place in my heart :D
So you were one of the tare fewest who went for the turtle instead of charmander :p
Hey I remember that too! Pidgeot was OP
When you were talking about the middle evolutions, you forgot a couple. The Nidos. Though the one's I'm looking forward to the most are Poliwhirl and Weepinbell.
Same!
Caught that too, for some reason I could’ve sworn he’s done a Nidorino run
@@erock2500 I know he's done Nidoking and Nidoqueen, but I'm not sure if he's done any of the other parts of their lines.
Poliwhirl is my favorite mon
Been looking forward to it for a while!
@@curtiscross-qr9cg stop capping. it aint your favorite. your favorite is pikachu
Hey Scott, did you know there is ONE way to delete an HM from a Pokémon's moveset. The condition is your Pokémon still has a move to learn by level up. Drop the Pokémon at the day care, possibly a few EXP before the level it learns its new move, one the Pokémon has grown to the level it learns a new move, the first move in its moveset is deleted.
Probably useless in these solo runs but still pretty cool.
I don't think Scott is allowing the use of the daycare, so that's not an option either. But it's pretty useful, I remember using it myself back in the days.
Wow I didn't know this
what if you switched it into the right slot and used the mimic glitch? The one that happens when Agatha switches on you?
@@shoblette961 probably too inconsistent, requires you to have another available move slot for mimic, a very limited selection of moves to take from agatha, and finally there's only 2 more fights left in the game so is it really worth it?
Not in RBY, Pokemon that know HMs can't be deposited in the Day Care.
This was a satisfying run to watch, even if Pidgeotto wasn’t that good. I tend to prefer the slow and steady approach more, prioritizing consistency, rather than going for sheer luck.
As for the Poké Maniac that greets you in Rock Tunnel, I’d name him Sloan: Slo- as in his Slowpoke and the -oan as in Cubone (this is more phonetic, but I thought it was pretty clever.)
Also a spoiler: I like that Pidgeotto is a Flying type that didn’t need to use Double Team to beat Giovanni! Always nice when that happens.
Initial reaction to seeing any of the pidgey line is just "oh nooooo, this is gonna take forever"
Two name suggestions for the Pokemaniac in Rock Tunnel: the Slowbone Maniac, or the Mud Maniac. The first because it is fun to say and an on-brand level of juvenile, the second because he is not noteworthy for any particular strategy he wanted the fusing, but because the particular type combination he uses is annoying for a wider variety of Pokemon than most random trainers... water, and ground. Mud.
I second the Mud Maniac =P
I'd like to suggest SlowBone.
@@luminousdemoncracy445 Also a really solid entry
Here's am explanation for why physical moves hit ghost types:
In order for the ghosts to actually hit other pokemon, they have to materialize, since ghosts can't usually interaxt with the physical world. Normal type is the exception both ways because they are opposites, so the farthest from the ghosts immaterial bodies.
You forgot Nordina & Nidorino as mid-stage evolutions! Great video, as always :)
you beat me
Nidorina
I’m offended he “forgot” the royal nido knights
@@sceptilethehedgehog5862looks like you also forgot nordina
Hey just wanted to say- of the hundreds of Pokemon speedrun/nuzlocke/ other challenges, you have by far the best interface which makes it super easy to follow along. Keep up the great work!
This channel has increased my knowledge of the first games. When he said that he would be saving sand stacks for later in the battle, I was like "oh! For Bide, since it bypasses accuracy checks!"
Thanks Scott!
We making it out of the mid stage evolution with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Drinking game: take a shot every time Scott says Pidgeot
Pidgeotto is actually my favorite pokemon. Not that it's great in battle, but it was the first pokemon I saw that I was really impressed with when I first saw the anime. It was the mt moon episode. Pikachu looked weird, Zubat was... just a blue bat. Staryu was sort of interesting, meowth was just a talking cat... But Pidgeotto looked so cool to me (even though it's just a bird with neat hair). I liked it more than its final evolution since I felt that look seemed a bit too chunky appearing. It's cool to see some of the strategy you use with Pidgeotto!
Also regarding the Pokemaniac... How about Manny the Maniac? Just for alliteration, no real reason otherwise.
Once again, I can't emphasize enough how much your channel has improved since your first vids !
Since we're talking about birds, when will come Dodrio (the best gen 1 bird) ? Maybe a race Magneton Vs Dugtrio VS Dodrio as the "race of the 3 of a kind" would be cool (and I think I remember you haven't done any of these in your channel)
Good idea!
This is an excellent idea
Weezing doesn't count as a 3 of a kind ? Exeggcute beats them all anyway.
@@InsanityForce Wheezing only has 2 heads and a growth. Personally I'd say it doesn't count but you're free to disagree.
@@briancaster2876 Well it's trying.
I like to think of Flying types as being a combination of "Bird" and "Air" attacks, like Wing Attack and Gust, Brave Bird and Hurricane, etc.
It obviously makes sense for "Air" attacks to hit Ghost types.
The Pidgeot line is my favorite bird line!
I love these videos and your commentary so much! You are intelligent, and all of your analysis are sensible. Whenever you upload, I'm 100% confident that I'm tuning in for a good video.
Whether or not it's worthy of being the Pokemaniac's name, his party composition is undeniably *Slowbone*, and that's just satisfying to say.
It's crazy how far ahead you've thought out all these runs. The fact Pidgey's video is slotted for "next year" says a lot. Excited for all of them!
I feel Pidgey is destined for the Bruno tier
I never loved the Pidgeot line growing up but the older I get the more I really really love Pidgeotto and Pidgeot's designs.
I love your videos, Scott!
It's like Ash's Pigeotto before he evolved.
Interestingly they planned to make more 3 stage Pokémon in gen 1, meowth, vulpix, growlithe and ponyta all had pre evolutions that were cut. I think i remember reading that they did have to cut some Pokémon so i think they made the right choice for variety`s sake.
You forgot the middle evolution of nidorans!
Pidgeotto has a special place in my heart. It was my first capture in yellow and in the franchise. Love this bird to the point I either won't evolve it or nickname it Pidgeotto so it holds that name for ever. Definitely my preferred flying companion.
This brings back so many memories! My first ever victory against Brock in Pokemon Yellow was with a sand attacking Pidgeotto! I can still remember how big of a strategist nine year old me felt on that day lol
In my very first playthrough of _Pokémon Yellow_ in my youth, I remember soloing Surge with my Pidgeotto. I knew it was theoretically a bad idea, but I wanted those style points.
11:25 that was me! Thanks for the shoutout! Love your vids bro! ❤❤❤
First time I ever did a Nuzlocke was on the Yellow Virtual Console entry when it came to the 3DS. I didn't realise species clause covered the whole family, so I thought for example, that if you encountered Caterpie on Route 2, then Metapod in Viridian Forest, they wouldn't activate the Species Clause so they would both count as your encounters.
I didn't realise the Nuzlocke starts when you get Pokeballs, so I thought I blew through my route 1 encounter. My route 22 encounter was Spearow, my route 2 encounter was Pidgey, and would you believe, but my very first encounter in Viridian Forest was Pidgeotto and I actually managed to catch it when my Pikachu had just 1HP left. This meant my team for Brock was Pikachu, Spearow, Pidgey and Pidgeotto, and I was so pleased of my sand attack/growl/tail whip strategy that managed to get by without any casualties. I kept the Pidgeotto right up until Giovanni where he wiped out my whole team.
What about the middle evolutions for the nidorans?
My boy Pidgeotto finally getting some love! Thank you!
The Pidgey line will always be special because of Twitch Plays Pokemon. Hard to believe it was already 10 years ago. Bird Jesus was so memorable in that playthrough and it was awesome seeing so many people love Pidgeot so much.
32:05 I’ve always thought like this as well. It’s similar with Cherubi and Cherrim.
I always thought it was a cool that you could find one at level 9 in Viridian Forest in Pokémon Yellow in yet another nod to the anime. I mentioned that as a kid, I always grinded my Pikachu to level 20 (one tradition I still keep alive on all Yellow playthroughs to this day), but back in the day, I also always caught a level 6 Caterpie (to grind and evolve into a Butterfree, which I still do on all playthroughs), a Mankey with Low Kick and Pidgeotto. I never really used any of them outside of the Butterfree for even the early game, but they made it easier to get the 10 Pokémon needed to get Flash, so that made one leg of my journey easier.
I pronounced it "Pidgey-auto" as a kid until hearing Ash say it the canonical way enough. And you're right that it should have been the name for the final form.
I've come to prefer every other Kanto bird, especially Doduo, but Pidgeotto does remain in my heart as part of my first ever Pokémon team (Ivysaur, Beedrill, Raichu, Dugtrio, Vaporeon and Pidgeotto). Said Pidgeotto also knew Razor Wind because I insisted that such a cool sounding attack must be good... it was not.
1:16 - That's an interesting stat trivia. It would also explain why the Pidgey line never came across as too great compared to the other birds, but at least it's Special stat serves some purpose in being it's Special Defence as well.
4:16 - Oh yeah, Jolteon has Thunder instead of Magneton with it's Thunderbolt. It's risky to bank on it but a chance to miss being hit by Thunder is certainly the better of the two options.
7:57 - Never understood why the likes of Sand Attack or Confuse Ray could hit Flying and Normal types respectively. What's the point of giving status moves a type if they don't effect things.
10:09 - Your delivery of this joke was perfect. Thanks for the good laugh and sorry about your misfortune.
11:41 - Funny thing about the Pidgey line's move-set is that it doesn't get much better in terms of diversity in later games. I'm also trying to think of what moves the Pidgey could have been given back in Gen 1, TM or otherwise, that would have been both handy and make sense but I'm struggling to think of any. Double Kick and Blizzard would have been a stretch but maybe; perhaps even Submission. I still think Razor Wind should have been a Dragon move.
12:50 - I don't know why but my first thought was Scully. To be fair, Rapping Lass is technically not a name either; more of a title. He's the one who says the "Game Over" line I believe so perhaps the Gamer Maniac? Both his Pokémon are very slow so maybe Sluggish Maniac instead?
17:02 - That 60 Special surprisingly being useful. Good on Mid the sand chucking Pidgeotto for besting the fully evolved Electric type with only a 4 level difference.
24:02 - Out of context, it's hilarious hearing how your strategy involves not levelling up in the midst of battle. You're stronger by not gaining experience and learning. It's been interesting watching this run with Pidgeotto as you've been so careful and meticulous with this first run to the point that I'm unsure how you would improve things on a second go.
29:59 - Good old reliable Mimic; been a while since I watched one of your videos where that came into play but Pidgeotto needs something for it's moveset. An yes, I can imagine Rhydon being the biggest obstacle for Flying and Normal only bird.
31:05 - Pidgeotto's tanking of Rock Slides and Thunderbolts in this run has been impressive.
35:26 - Given Aerodactyl waiting around the corner, it did seem like Hydro Pump would have been the better option here. Of course, said move isn't handy for the Dragons and you'd have to hope Fly would be enough for them. Really tricky to figure out until you've had a chance to experiment. 35:55 or you can steal Ice Beam which is significantly better here.
43:07 - I didn't think there would be much you could do to improve your time but these earlier Rare Candies to have a quick win over the roadblock that was Blaine looks like you'll be making significant improvements.
47:35 - Again, really surprised and impressed you managed to make improvements given how optimal you were doing things in your first run.
49:08 - Wow, Pidgeotto did so poorly that you noticed an error with Pidgeot and ended up placing it lower on the Tier List.
0:49 wow, this man keeps his word to a T. He really did make that Pidgey run 😢
Let's go Pidgeotto!!🐦
Let's go pidgeot!
When I was a kid, Pidgeotto always came across as a rare strong pokemon because it's original pokemon card was a "star" or rare, unlike most other mid stage pokemon. Either way, I'm a sucker for the early game bird Mon. I always use them on my first play through
Not sure if I'm who you were talking about, but I definitely told my story about Pidgeot, and why it came to be one of my favorites, in the Pidgeot/Fearow versus video! I know it's not a great Pokemon, but it will always have a special place in my heart. Still sad I never managed to get that bird to 100 before someone stole the copy of Silver I had transferred it to.
As a Pidgeot #1 fan, I was yelling at my TV every time you called Pidgeotto Pidgeot lol
i’d imagine poliwhirl might do even better than poliwrath given its better defensive typing and speed
Also movepool
Yeah he discussed this during his nuzlocke video, poliwhirl > wrath
A wise bird once told me: "PIDG-YOOOO!!"
Great video Scott! I have a question about your tier list so far. With so many E tier Pokémon and the lack of B tier, are you going to reshuffle/change the times when you finish Gen 1 so it’s more balanced out?
Nice job on the smooth cuts in Blaine's gym
I'm getting Anime nostalgia from this one
I wonder why the name of the evolution is the same but shorter.
12:50 Sloan. Slowpoke + Cubone.
never realized how few middle evolutions there were... holy moly! there just went 25 oder 26 years of my live believing that 3 stage evolutionary lines were the usual case...
POLIWHIRL!!! The GOAT of middle evolution. Can’t wait for that one!🤩
I love how you use Giovanni at Silph as your litmus test. I've never really played gen 1, but in the gen 3 games, he consistently annihilated my teams.
The fact you finally mentioned buying all the drinks. I feel all the closure!
I cant imagine that noone claimed my favourite Pokemon Roserade already from the patreons
btw i love your videos and your strategys espacially the exeggcute video, loved that one
keep up the work and i am looking forward for your completion of every tierlist pokedex in every generation
This is how I beat Yellow as a kid. Pikachu was useless against Brock and I got upset with Pikachu. I ended up catching a Pidgy and that Pidgy ended up defeating Brock. I immediately put Pikachu in the PC and never saw Pikachu again. I do that run once a year and have for like twenty years now :).
Pidgeot carried my fire red run after I sent my starter to platinum
My first game as a kid was Pokémon Blue. I remember only leveling up my Blastoise and Pigeot. (And then later Mewtwo.) I knocked out all the legendary birds because I didn’t realize they were static one-time encounters, RIP.
Think you might’ve forgotten nidorino and nidorina
Golem would be a great offensive guard.
Heavy, stocky, long arms and extremely strong. Prior experience in “floating/levitating” so has great potential in a pulling or zone run schemes.
Wholesome storytime for any other Poké OGs out there:
So in the Gen 1 days, Pidgeotto was my favorite, with Butterfree and Dragonite behind, all because of the Anime. Fast-forward to Gen 2, I'm walking around with a trio that are to-this-day my 5 favorites-- Croconaw, Sneasel, Lugia, Suicune and Ampharos. For whatever reason, I find myself back in Viridian Forest, where I encounter my first-ever legit random shiny... Pidgey. Sure, it was a bad shiny, but you know I evolved it to Pidgeotto right then and there. And somehow, some way, that was the team I used to take down Red for the first time.
Not a big fan of flying/normal types. ;) but I hope this proves me wrong!
Prediction:
+ Viridian city rival fight
+ Viridian forest
+ Erika
+ sand attack cheesing
+ Giovanni gym fight
+ Koga
- Brock gym fight
- Mt Moon
- learnset through level up
- Lt Surge
- Rock tunnel
- Elite 4: Lorelei and Lance
How much could switching to Gust during Bide help? I'm assuming you out speed the Onix. If not, however, would Onix take one less hit during Bide, or was the damage already done too much to even matter considering that? Love watching your runs, haven't commented in awhile, but I just love your growth as a content creator. All the love ❤
Thinking about middle stages gave me an idea: Crobat in Yellow.
Golbat is not great however Crobat is, it would be interesting to see how that speedy monster fares in a Kanto solo run.
Golbat is actuality surprisingly good, go watch Scott's playthrough with it if you haven't already.
With you rom editing software couldn't you remove the RNG from the game corner slot machines to make the process to get the TMs smoother?
Hey Scott, do you EVER fight the trainers in the maze south of Lavender Town/east of Fuscia? I'm just randomly remembering a question someone asked a few months ago about the least-fought trainers, and I don't think I've ever seen you battle those guys.
He fought a whole bunch in other videos with weak pokemon, I think Ekans and Koffing
What about the nidoran middle evolutions?
Oh yeah, good catch
On the topic of regional birds, part of me wonders how Noctowl and Swellow will handle their respective regions. Wonder if pre-poisoning strats would be allowed for the latter to abuse Guts.
If he can waste PP in advance, I think pre poisoning or burning is fair game as well.
Might I make a tiny suggestion? :3
When putting up the time between playthroughs, would it be a good idea have the "- Time" be in green, and have "+ Time" be in red?
Here, pigeotto had a faster second run, and I'd argue displaying it's -9:35 real time, it's -9 resets and -0:16 game time in green would seem better and clearer than having it in red.
But lovely video as always, and already looking forward to the next! Cheers!
The fact that Bruno was able to defeat Pidgeot but not Pidgeotto is just sad, lol. Great video!
I never had a Pidgeotto playing R/B as a kid. I always preferred Spearow. You could catch it at level 5 and peck was super handy for all the bug and grass types you encounter in the early-game.
"Can you keep a secret?" "The question is: can i remember one" -two and a half men
as a kid I wanted to catch a pigeotto just like ash, then I met Pigeot and...well. It was much better!
great job!
Really like your videos :) Recently found them, and like them a bunch. I'm planning my own idea for a run of Gen 1 with a ruleset I've seen no one run before, but I need a bunch of info that's hard to find 😅
Good job on your videos :) Your layouts are dope.
I remember caching a Pidgeotto in the forest in Pokémon Yellow,and I was so excited! However, even as a small child I quickly realized by mid game how trash this Pokémon actually is. He was basically a dead weight, low level fly muel by Vermillion city.
Every time I play Generations 1 or 2 I usually use a Pokémon from the Pidgey line as my flier. Turns out I was looking at it through rose tinted glasses, but the game definitely gave it a hard time with that move set too.
do you think there would ever be a need for separate tier lists for first stage second stage and third stage Pokémon? or would it get too confusing because of single stage Pokémon and Pokémon that only evolve once.
I thought about this, but I came to the conclusion that I like to see theinteraction between first-stage Pokemon and final stage Pokemon. It's interesting seeing just how back Hitmonchan is and how strong Poliwag and Bellsprout are when compared with the likes of Arcanine and Rapidash!
On my very first playthrough on pokemon blue, i caught a level 2 pidgey as my first new pokemon. Unfamiliar with the game I went into the rename menu, but i didn't want to actually give it a name. Being very young at the time, i tried to spell it the name as best as i could...
And so began the legend of piggy the bird pokemon. Piggy stayed with me the whole game, and for some reason i chose not to evolve it (like my own Pikachu).
Pretty much every game i play when i can catch a pidgey, I'll now name it piggy.
Piggy was also the only pokemon i transferred through to my silver version and used, though i did start evolving it in silver from level 80
Birb time, how long is the Brock Split going to be?
"Dratini and Dragonair learn Hyper Beam through level up but not through TM" (paraphrased)
Wait, what? [checks to confirm] WHAT!?
Hell yeah. Been doing stuff like this for years.
Love beating the game with just 1 weak mon.
I like to make it harder and no using items in battle to include held items.
Commenting before the video is even available, for the algorithm ofc.
Am I the only that fall asleep watching these. So I have to watch them like 10 times each at least?? 😂😂😂
Nope
Agility raises your speed right, so does it up critical when your maxed out or else critical hits only depend on base speed of the pokemon ? I always wanted to know this because if it raises critical like how im hoping it could make some crappy mons better like this pigeotto , agility , reflect , sand attack , rest, could be some useful for this no move bird. Sky attack for a flying move? I would
Critical hit chance is determined with base speed, not the Pokémon’s current speed. Using agility does not up the crit rate.
Slowpoke/Cubone trainer in Rock Tunnel should be named the SlowBone trainer?
woah, the blastoise sprite in yellow is awesome!
Pidgeotto is nostalgic to me, because i have watched the pokemon series and it was Ash his thirth pokemon he catched :)
I used to use pidgeotto because ash had one. When it evolved I was so excited 🥰
-when I grew up all I could see were stats… Pidgey line had good hair though
12:44 I am not sure why but maybe Spud would work as a name for the Pokemaniac
"The Slow Bone Maniac" for the pokemaniac with Cubone and slowpoke ?
22:00 Geez, is that Gen 1 Koga or Gen 2?! I don't think I've ever seen Koga abuse that so much in Yellow, but its, almost ironically, his strategy in Gen 2.
"I need more PP". You are not alone, brother.
What about nidorino and nidorina?
Excellent video as always =)
I also occasionally mess up Pidgeotto/Pidgeot, and I predict that you will get a sub 1:30 time with Pidgey (barely).
Do the Stone Evos not count as mid evos?
Made a pinned comment
This reminds me of the first time I played pokemon Yellow. I didn't understand types or anything, so I just tried to beat Brock with a Pikachu and a Pidgeotto. Iirc they were around level 16-20 before I finally won.
Yay, another middle evolution! There’s something about middle evos that I just like. I dunno why!
If a pokemon is burned and gets a crit does it ignore the burn reduction?