[I was born and grew up in Australia] My father was born in the southern United States in 1921. He attended the Naval Academy, and served in the US Navy during WWII. He came to Australia for work in the mid 1960s, loved it here, met my mother and they had me. He was in his 50s when I was born. That all said, for my entire life, my father always referred to the toilet as “the head”, he’d say “Port” or “Starboard” when giving directions on land and, especially in the summertime he always had us rinse off our feet before we came indoors. To me, this was normal and I didn’t realise that it wasn’t until I grew up. These etiquette videos have brought back so many memories and I wanted to thank you both for this ❤. He was an amazing human being, a walking talking human GPS and weather man. He knew all of the constellations and how to use the stars to navigate. He sailed in the Sydney to New Caledonia race as well as the Sydney to Hobart a few times. As a kid it was incredibly exciting to travel to meet the boats as they all came in. Extra exciting to get reports on their location as they sailed towards the “finish line”. Before the internet, the sailing club had a big map up on the wall. They had little triangles of paper pinned to the map, representing the last known position reported of each sailing vessel. I remember as a kid sitting there watching and waiting for the regular updates and seeing the man move each of the pins just a little bit further along. Just incredible. Yup, his heart always belonged to the sea. Once again thanks so much for sparking these memories. Big love to you both. 🙂🐿🌈❤️
My dad just called and asked me if we paid you to make this video before he visits for the holidays! LOL! He also said "some things in the video really made me think", so great work you two! Clearly you got the point across well!
Good list. We have a friend going on a long sail with her boyfriend. She's never been out for longer than a weekend. One of the things she needed to hear was that she can't redecorate the boat like she does her boyfriend's house. Everything on a boat is where it is for a reason.
Great advice. What's the first thing you do if you fall overboard? Zip up tour pants. So when they find your body, they don't know you fell trying to pee. Lol
Great info! I think I’d also add to the safety category is making sure guests/crew know they need to let whoever is the “medic” know about any aches, pains, injuries, or symptoms no matter how small. Small problems can turn into big problems in a hurry in remote locations without medical professionals readily available.
Idea for sand/salt on feet--At our house in the Bahamas, we keep a bucket of water on the bottom step. When you come up from the beach, you dip your feet in to rinse them. After a few days, when there is too much sand in the bottom, just throw it out, and add some fresh.
Good job on this one. For wine issues....get a bottle of “wine away” They sell it at BevMo. We used it on the corporate jet and works really well. Doesn’t need water... Spray it on and dob it out. Works best on fresh stains...
GREAT video - this is the everyday for someone owning a boat, but guests and how to handle them is an art-form. Thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together.
You’ve said it: Managing expectations, both guests AND Admirals! After that... it’s all operational! As usual, loved your video. This one is a keeper and a must see for all guest prior to boarding. Love you guys.
Really a great subject for you guys to cover! I've been waiting awhile to see if anyone could come up with a complete, respectful and humorous way to approach the "touchy" subject of having guests onboard and you guys did a fantastic job of accomplishing that. Thank you ever so much for not giving your "guests" a Southern accent like so many do when trying to portray people who don't know what they don't know. Insult comes in all forms and it is amazing how so many otherwise intelligent people don't realize this. I see that you are back into my favorite anchorage at Cape Lookout and hope you were able to weather out all 8" of rain we had recently with a pleasant visit. Keep the great videos coming. I'll always be here to watch! I wish you sunny days, A warm Nor'Easterly and safe travels.
As you'll see in tomorrow's video, we actually had a few challenges out there at Lookout. Got ROUGH! But we still love it up there. You are very lucky!
Dear Nick and Megan, that video was as valuable to share as it was entertaining. I already told my kids, "this is your homework before visiting our boat in January 2021." It's so much more palatable coming from you than our lips. THANK YOU BOTH! If you do happen to swing north after crossing the Panama Canal, let us know and we'd be happy to meet in person in Mexico and share etiquette on S/V Serenity (close tie with "Vibe"). Thanks for being part of our journey. You provide a real service. Keep it up!
Loved it! So much seems to be common sense but by I’m old and was taught to be respectful. I work with a lot of younger people who just don’t seem to get it. Maybe a sad comment on the world these days. Love you guys! Timmy
It is clear, boat ethics is very important for a pleasant and joyful time without unexpected surprises. The frugality of resources should be encouraged on the sea and on the land all the time.
😂 this was great and entertaining albeit accurate. I really appreciate your thinking ahead of the real issues that many boaties face when having people join them on their boats. How about making an in depth video covering all the do's and don'ts like an induction presentation. That would be a brilliant resource for all boaties to show any guests, passengers and crew to watch before joining any vessel that would avoid any problems later?
What a great video! We have a list we send out to friends about board life, and still folks that visit for the first time give us hard times. Will send them here in the future. Thanks!
Good tips! It's definitely a different culture and frame of mind on the water. I think it's good to start people off with the whole "Permission to come aboard?" routine (and maybe give them a couple easy orders to start with, like where to stow their stuff or tie/untie a thing if applicable) just to get that culture model going. Thinking back to when I did a lot of sailing with yacht groups, I think goes even deeper than the specifics you gave here. There was this unconscious "castle" theme or undercurrent. Everyone was friendly and mostly familiar, but we didn't get on each others boats much. More likely we'd gather on shore, or talk from the dock to the people onboard, lean against a dock pillar with a beverage and talk; or if coming by in a dingy, you'd stay in the dingy to chat across the rail. Except for particular occasions, you kinda maintained people's boat as their world without even thinking about it. You didn't push them to take responsibility for you unless there was a reason. It's like... if you went with someone to get party supplies from their boat, you didn't automatically follow them onboard unless they actually needed you to lift stuff. You waited on the dock, and they would bring things out and hand them over to you to carry from there. If you were loading things, they went onboard and you handed stuff in to them. You knew you would be welcome any time there was a call for it, but you just didn't cross the rails UNLESS there was a call for it. It's like the boat is an extra layer of social intimacy in any scenario. Even among friends, if there wasn't some real reason to come aboard, you didn't. It would be like visiting a friend's land-house and going to their dresser and putting on their pajamas or something, just a little weird. Then when on a boat, there was never a question of whose world it was. The order of things was just a reflex. If the host captain needed something (done) and said "could someone..." another captain/owner would be the first to jump to a menial task without considering their own status on their own boat. Those with responsibility respected the responsibility. Like any subculture I guess, you could tell so quickly who was waterfolk and who were the landlubbers. The lubbers would stumble all over the courtesies and not realize the order of things and be awkwardly intrusive in a hundred little ways. All you could do was roll your eyes and try to guide them gently until they caught on. Anyway, that's how I remember it. In these kinds of inherently hazardous environments, the order of things has to take a special priority without having to be explained or negotiated. It shows up in other risks-included subcultures like hunting, martial arts, scuba, historical re-enactment, wilderness trekking, and so on. You just have to know how to... be.
Just thought I'd say hello from Thailand; am not a boater and have only been on one once a long time ago. But my wife and I enjoy watching and learning about things we know nothing about. Am long time retired here in south central Thailand and live only a mile from the beach in a very nice beach resort town right on the Gulf of Thailand. Thanks again Russ & Addy.
An excellent review of the common rules & regulations of boating as well as for RV’s too! One of the items/memories that came to mind was my late Dad’s rule for using the “head” or toilet. Absolutely EVERYONE Must be seated! He would say ‘that no matter how good of aim you had, sit the hell down’ ! Dad hated cleaning urine out of the bilge! Your comments on clutter rang true too. Put your stuff away when not in use, no matter What it is! My folks loved sharing their various boats or RV’s with friends and family. But there just had to be rules, period!
@@TheOKellys Well, you have us all fooled then. I've tried to put together just a short video and finally gave up. It's so much more complicated than people realize.
So funny! You nailed it with the water usage....I have found since I got a boat I am much more conscience of my water use. Its a precious resource....even on the land!
Love this! Great tips. Honestly a lot of them would come in handy for houseguests as well! I would love to hang out with you and I’d even share my favorite popcorn recipe 😂
At the beginning of every "Journey", the captain(s) should gather everyone aboard and read aloud "The Articles of War". :) Most people can easily see the freedoms that you have. "Seeing" the constraints that you must live under to achieve these freedoms, is not so easily done. Great video yet again.
Awesome video. Will email to my fellow charter crew next year for our grenadines to grenada trip. Also how I have broken up bareboat chapter food costs is typically send one person from each cabin to shop for provisions. Usually they are either alone or know the cohabitant’s preferences. Before shopping I have each cabin kick in 100-250 into the kitty for food. Whatever is left over is used for future costs like moorings, ice, water, fuel, etc common to the boat. At the end of the charter whatever is left over we split up evenly. If we run short in the kitty we ask everyone to contribute again evenly during the charter to keep it solvent. Alcohol is BYOB. Everyone’s preferences are different or none at all. If you want to share or trade that’s great. Thanks for a great video.
Great video, this turn I loved to see you acting as the guests! If one day you decide to leave the boat live, can start a career in Hollywood! Congrats!
I organize several charter trip over the last 15 years and you are right on. I add issues with crew arguing with each other on trip that lasted more then 2 weeks. I always had to split the bill between the alcohol drinker and the none drinker. One time, I did not and got into trouble. This is excellent information for people starting the cruising life who wants to bring friends with them.
I agree 100% with what you presented here. BUT, if you are a US flagged vessel you might want to look at the actual laws pertaining to guests and crew on board. You will quite probably be surprised. If you two great people invite me aboard for a fee, then you are a charter captain and you have to have a captain's license of the appropriate class for your vessel and area of operation. If you two invite me aboard as a guest with the understanding that I'm not paying my way, there are still technicalities that most people aren't aware of. If I bring a case of Georges DeBeouf Beaujolais Villages (yes, it's red wine but I promise to only open and drink it outside) then guess what? I am bringing my own sustenance so to speak and that changes the definition of the trip and one of you has to have a captain's license appropriate for your boat and for your area of operation. The same applies if I bring a single freakin orange. The regulations are insane and unreasonable, but that's what happens when you have unelected bureaucrats making federal regulations.
Great words of wisdom once again from the both of you. Couple of questions I do have though. How did you two get the 2 mannequins you used here through the marina without the other boat owners taking notice? What "are" the O'Kelly's up to now? Raised a few eyebrows I'll bet? Toilet? It's the head- so I've been told. For breaking the boat rules of Etiquette what is the Capitan's option here? A Stern- talking to? It's the crows nest for you. I have found the keel hauling works well in these situations. Deters future transgressions from the offending parties. Don't make me maroon you on a deserted island with a bottle of rum and a single shot pistol. It is why you have your own boat. You set the rules, if your not on board with mine- get your own boat then. Great to see you two smiling again. Last rule- never ever waste Tacos while on board this boat. Got that? That could get you thrown over board pretty much. Safe travels. LAC
@@TheOKellys Bad as watchstanders. What a bunch of stiffs they are. They never work hard at all. Not on my crew. Mannequins life sized fenders- new for your boat. DO it and film the reactions in the harbor thereof. Priceless. The O'Kelly's out takes. Hmmm storing mannequins for years on the boat- takes up room for other things. Now- why are they there in the first place again dare I ask? I got a great deal on them... they work cheap as crew members. Present location? Heading south to warmer weather-we're on O'Kelly's time here- we'll get there when we get there that's the plan and we don't really have a plan per say- that's the way we roll here on Clarity. LAC
Hi, if there is a "#1Head" that one can use a traditional urinal screen to prevent non-liquids from being deposited. Snaking paper or products out can be very time consuming! Any other heads can rely on the typical signage system;)
Maybe not exactly etiquette, but as I hit my head AGAIN on the boat I was thinking it would be good to communicate to newbies that a boat is different from a house in that overhead clearances are not always what you are used to, the size and pitch of stairs is not standard as it is in a house, and that there can be lots of things (like cleats) to stub one's toe on. Move about with care and deliberation!
Ok, we'll bring the virgin sangria, loads of extra Chapstick, coffee and sewing supplies. Is my purple Speedo ok? Just let us know which dock to meet you at! ;)
As Captain, I used to say: “You may be surprised how exciting intimacy can be when you COMPLETELY HIDE ALL AUDIBLE AND VISUAL EVIDENCE OF SEX from everyone else for the whole trip!” I used to have the whole party “repeat those nine words after me: completely hide all audible and visual evidence of sex!” Haha! This is an ice breaker, and a fun way to keep a classy boat for the benefit of all! BTW-Private family moments also includes undisciplined children who may never have been taught not to whine, cry for effect and argue loudly, especially in the company of others...and many a good Captain has helped parents parent and improved the whole trajectory of their family’s lives in a short time! “)
Just so much fun to listen to you and learn :) Would love to sail someday too. I am from South Africa if you ever come around to Cape Town or Simons Town. Would love to meet you. But I doubt me and my wife will get comfortable with strangers on a boat. I like privacy, order and a clean environment. Especially on such a small space :) You and the Wynns are my kind of boat companions. Enjoy
We are soon to be brand new, green, newb liveaboards! Absolutely love the channel! Am I correct to assume that the water rationing and toilet paper issue is mainly while you are underway as opposed to being stationary at your slip hooked up to the marinas fresh water supply and weekly pump out services? You guys are killing it, keep up the awesome content! Subscribed!
Good summary! I had several times the issue that “unfortunately” there was not enough time left for guests to clean up their cabin, their bathroom etc. They just escaped. Did you ever experience that?
It should be noted that any contribution from a guest, even bringing food to share, makes the boat trip legally a charter, which really changes the responsibilities of the owner. Then it is a commercial venture requiring permits, different insurance, etc,etc. While that is subject to interpretation, once the owner or Captain says " we will split the cost of fuel, permits, food, etc"., there is no question. Its a commercial charter.
Well covered. I'd add just two things: I used to ask guests if they could swim. Some were a bit offended so I changed to asking if they are a GOOD swimmer. This lets the non-swimmers say 'not really'. The reason I want to know is to decide if we have time to turn the boat around or if I have to go straight in after them. (I'd also say if they go overboard when the spinnaker is up, just to wave bye-bye) The other thing is to be a spotter if someone does go over. Keep eyes on them at all times and continuously point to them while you can still see them. Don't turn your head to chat, keep eyes on. Today we use dan-buoys and so they can be told to just throw it overboard. Keep eyes on victim until the dan-buoy inflates and shows its flag. There's an annoying rule in racing that says if you finish with fewer crew you will be disqualified, so even irritating crew and guests should be rescued. Optional: after a weekend's cruising, it's nice to be taken to dinner on land, or at least asked. Also, no smoking. If they must, put them in the dinghy.
Haha .. on the water subject , growing up in the Carolinas water was everywhere, but living my adult life in Colorado with no water. We have to teach people to take short showers and no baths and turn the faucet off during brushing your teeth ..
Water consumption- Charter 1: 3 sailing instructors and 5 experienced sailors. Less than 1/2 of the boat's water used in 10 days. Charter 2: 2 experienced sailors and 6 land lubbers. All water gone in 18 hours flat. I've also done a 16 day blue water trip with no water maker or jerry cans with a crew of 5 sailing instructors and one well disciplined novice on a Beneteau 473. We made it with water to spare. The difference is REAL! How I wash dishes at anchor. Put them in a snorkeling gear 'net bag', tie a line to it and lower it into the water for the night. Nice and clean in the morning and the fish love it. All they need after is a quick fresh water rinse. Just don't do this next to a bunch of boats with bad "discharge" habits ;-)
Yes, good call on the net bag. That works really well. We are a bit spoiled these days on Clarity, but we are still washing the smoothie stuff off the back steps in seawater.
I discourage guests bringing aerosol sun screen. I'm told it damages plastics especially on instruments and stains gelcoat. And while some may disagree with me, I've stopped taking small children under 10 on board because they take away from the parents' fun on the water. This decision comes from experience from having guests on board with a small children that wouldn't mind, kept crawling up and down the companionway stairs, insisted on flipping switches, and refused to wear a life jacket. The parents were so busy tending the child they had no time to enjoy their time on the water. Also, while alcohol is permitted, I don't allow excessive drinking where a person is intoxicated to the point of endangerment to themselves or others.
What no long HOT showers on the swim step? The tip on the dish washing is a great idea! From now on our Admiral (wife) will be doing the dishes. I (hubby) does the cooking. So what do you do with the used brownish TP? Thank you for all of great the advice except for the red wine. I use it to gargle with after I brush my teeth. Thanks again!!!!
OMG...that was funny. Nick, you looked like Hunter S Thompson in the Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas movie. All you needed was a kilo of coke and a Magnum 45 and your lawyer in tow and we wouldn't have noticed the difference. PS: Alcohol...always let your guests know what the status quo onboard is: I'm a member of the Bill W Fellowship and whilst I don't mind alcohol onboard, I expect guests to bring their own and if possible, for them to bring spirits rather than wine...because of the storage issues...it's far easier to store a single bottle of gin as opposed to a dozen bottles of wine, and if you must bring wine, then bring cask wine.
Hahahahaha... A compliment for sure! What a character he was! Rode that rocket straight into outer space! Lol We keep a little booze on board for anyone who might want it, but only because it was gifted to us. Actually there’s some aboard now gifted to us by a politician....so we get to serve them a drink and a good story! Lol. Never know who your going to run into out here. Hope we share an anchorage and a fizzy water someday soon.
13:59 When I was in flight school, there was a sign in the bathroom that said, "If your manifold pressure is low or your pitot tube is short, keep your pattern tight." I wonder what the nautical analogue would be.
Great episode, might come in handy as soon as we start to live aboard. I am also a fan of Megan´s catching smile. Speaking of spray sunscreen you might add hairspray ;-) Greetings from Germany, Ute
In the nineties, while still a student, I used to work on a friends dive boat as a dive guide and deck hand/gopher for several summers. The initial instructions *always* included what goes down the head and what not, but still, on every 2nd tour, I as the "head-master" had to take the pump apart to clean it cos it was clogged. One time, we had a group of divers, all guys, one woman. one day, the head was clogged of course, and I find a tampon in the pump - the guesswork who it came from didn´t really require a Sherlock Holmes. I discretely took the woman aside and repeated the instructions (only piss, poop and vomit). In the evening of the very same day, the head was clogged up again. I found another tampon, made some angry plans, got the OK from the skipper, and the next morning, I served the tampon to her on her breakfast plate on a toast, for everybody to see and with a thank you note. GOD she was embarrassed and pissed! (but so were the skipper and I).
[I was born and grew up in Australia]
My father was born in the southern United States in 1921. He attended the Naval Academy, and served in the US Navy during WWII.
He came to Australia for work in the mid 1960s, loved it here, met my mother and they had me. He was in his 50s when I was born.
That all said, for my entire life, my father always referred to the toilet as “the head”, he’d say “Port” or “Starboard” when giving directions on land and, especially in the summertime he always had us rinse off our feet before we came indoors. To me, this was normal and I didn’t realise that it wasn’t until I grew up.
These etiquette videos have brought back so many memories and I wanted to thank you both for this ❤.
He was an amazing human being, a walking talking human GPS and weather man. He knew all of the constellations and how to use the stars to navigate.
He sailed in the Sydney to New Caledonia race as well as the Sydney to Hobart a few times.
As a kid it was incredibly exciting to travel to meet the boats as they all came in. Extra exciting to get reports on their location as they sailed towards the “finish line”.
Before the internet, the sailing club had a big map up on the wall. They had little triangles of paper pinned to the map, representing the last known position reported of each sailing vessel.
I remember as a kid sitting there watching and waiting for the regular updates and seeing the man move each of the pins just a little bit further along.
Just incredible.
Yup, his heart always belonged to the sea.
Once again thanks so much for sparking these memories.
Big love to you both.
🙂🐿🌈❤️
Thank you for sharing your incredible memories!
We're just going to send this to any future guests!
Megan just reminded me you guys are welcome guests anytime
@@TheOKellys and @Sailing Nahoa are two of my favorite channels! Man I wish I had a sailboat!
@@TheOKellys I think if they could get across a border they would join you now! Well especially as you get to warmer weather!
Now that’s a partnership I’d like to see.
sailing nahoa you havent got any room for guest
My dad just called and asked me if we paid you to make this video before he visits for the holidays! LOL! He also said "some things in the video really made me think", so great work you two! Clearly you got the point across well!
Love it!!
Good list. We have a friend going on a long sail with her boyfriend. She's never been out for longer than a weekend. One of the things she needed to hear was that she can't redecorate the boat like she does her boyfriend's house. Everything on a boat is where it is for a reason.
Great advice. What's the first thing you do if you fall overboard? Zip up tour pants. So when they find your body, they don't know you fell trying to pee. Lol
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Great info! I think I’d also add to the safety category is making sure guests/crew know they need to let whoever is the “medic” know about any aches, pains, injuries, or symptoms no matter how small. Small problems can turn into big problems in a hurry in remote locations without medical professionals readily available.
Good point! Gotta know if someone needs extra attention.
A lot of very valid points. Explain beforehand and make sure things are clear up front saves a lot of misunderstanding down the road
You guys a truly the most likable sailing TH-cam couple I’ve found!
Awww thank you so much Ian, we had way too much fun with this episode 🤣!
Idea for sand/salt on feet--At our house in the Bahamas, we keep a bucket of water on the bottom step. When you come up from the beach, you dip your feet in to rinse them. After a few days, when there is too much sand in the bottom, just throw it out, and add some fresh.
Good job on this one. For wine issues....get a bottle of “wine away” They sell it at BevMo. We used it on the corporate jet and works really well. Doesn’t need water... Spray it on and dob it out. Works best on fresh stains...
GREAT video - this is the everyday for someone owning a boat, but guests and how to handle them is an art-form. Thanks for taking the time and effort to put this together.
Our pleasure!
You’ve said it: Managing expectations, both guests AND Admirals! After that... it’s all operational! As usual, loved your video. This one is a keeper and a must see for all guest prior to boarding. Love you guys.
Great revealing episode. & now we know why Megan always has a smile and twinkle in her eye.
Lol🤣
Really a great subject for you guys to cover! I've been waiting awhile to see if anyone could come up with a complete, respectful and humorous way to approach the "touchy" subject of having guests onboard and you guys did a fantastic job of accomplishing that. Thank you ever so much for not giving your "guests" a Southern accent like so many do when trying to portray people who don't know what they don't know. Insult comes in all forms and it is amazing how so many otherwise intelligent people don't realize this.
I see that you are back into my favorite anchorage at Cape Lookout and hope you were able to weather out all 8" of rain we had recently with a pleasant visit.
Keep the great videos coming. I'll always be here to watch!
I wish you sunny days, A warm Nor'Easterly and safe travels.
As you'll see in tomorrow's video, we actually had a few challenges out there at Lookout. Got ROUGH! But we still love it up there. You are very lucky!
Dear Nick and Megan, that video was as valuable to share as it was entertaining. I already told my kids, "this is your homework before visiting our boat in January 2021." It's so much more palatable coming from you than our lips. THANK YOU BOTH! If you do happen to swing north after crossing the Panama Canal, let us know and we'd be happy to meet in person in Mexico and share etiquette on S/V Serenity (close tie with "Vibe"). Thanks for being part of our journey. You provide a real service. Keep it up!
Loved it! So much seems to be common sense but by I’m old and was taught to be respectful. I work with a lot of younger people who just don’t seem to get it. Maybe a sad comment on the world these days.
Love you guys!
Timmy
Lack of parenting is the reason....
It is clear, boat ethics is very important for a pleasant and joyful time without unexpected surprises. The frugality of resources should be encouraged on the sea and on the land all the time.
exactly!
😂 this was great and entertaining albeit accurate. I really appreciate your thinking ahead of the real issues that many boaties face when having people join them on their boats. How about making an in depth video covering all the do's and don'ts like an induction presentation. That would be a brilliant resource for all boaties to show any guests, passengers and crew to watch before joining any vessel that would avoid any problems later?
Holy duck I’m laughing my ass off at the water running...and like everything.
At 7:00 you should have said "If it didn't come out of you, it doesn't go down the loo." I'm just a sucker for good rhymes
Lol. How’d we miss that one? Lol
Not from you, not in the loo
Being slightly indelicate . . . we once (no more) had a friend who thought that applied to a used Tampax 😝
Safety -- Allergies, those that are life threatening. Bee stings, peanuts, location of EpiPens, etc.
What a great video! We have a list we send out to friends about board life, and still folks that visit for the first time give us hard times. Will send them here in the future. Thanks!
It's like dry camping rules, with a boat addendum. Great info, with entertainment. Thank you.
I appreciate your sage, yet practical, wisdom! Well done! Lots of laughs!
This is great! Thank you! I will be sending to all friends and family... before they come aboard - cheers!
Good tips! It's definitely a different culture and frame of mind on the water. I think it's good to start people off with the whole "Permission to come aboard?" routine (and maybe give them a couple easy orders to start with, like where to stow their stuff or tie/untie a thing if applicable) just to get that culture model going.
Thinking back to when I did a lot of sailing with yacht groups, I think goes even deeper than the specifics you gave here. There was this unconscious "castle" theme or undercurrent. Everyone was friendly and mostly familiar, but we didn't get on each others boats much.
More likely we'd gather on shore, or talk from the dock to the people onboard, lean against a dock pillar with a beverage and talk; or if coming by in a dingy, you'd stay in the dingy to chat across the rail. Except for particular occasions, you kinda maintained people's boat as their world without even thinking about it. You didn't push them to take responsibility for you unless there was a reason.
It's like... if you went with someone to get party supplies from their boat, you didn't automatically follow them onboard unless they actually needed you to lift stuff. You waited on the dock, and they would bring things out and hand them over to you to carry from there. If you were loading things, they went onboard and you handed stuff in to them.
You knew you would be welcome any time there was a call for it, but you just didn't cross the rails UNLESS there was a call for it. It's like the boat is an extra layer of social intimacy in any scenario. Even among friends, if there wasn't some real reason to come aboard, you didn't. It would be like visiting a friend's land-house and going to their dresser and putting on their pajamas or something, just a little weird.
Then when on a boat, there was never a question of whose world it was. The order of things was just a reflex. If the host captain needed something (done) and said "could someone..." another captain/owner would be the first to jump to a menial task without considering their own status on their own boat. Those with responsibility respected the responsibility.
Like any subculture I guess, you could tell so quickly who was waterfolk and who were the landlubbers. The lubbers would stumble all over the courtesies and not realize the order of things and be awkwardly intrusive in a hundred little ways. All you could do was roll your eyes and try to guide them gently until they caught on.
Anyway, that's how I remember it. In these kinds of inherently hazardous environments, the order of things has to take a special priority without having to be explained or negotiated. It shows up in other risks-included subcultures like hunting, martial arts, scuba, historical re-enactment, wilderness trekking, and so on. You just have to know how to... be.
Thanks for the note. Yes, it varies boat to boat for sure. We certainly seem to see folks doing a lot more inviting aboard than we used to.
Just thought I'd say hello from Thailand; am not a boater and have only been on one once a long time ago. But my wife and I enjoy watching and learning about things we know nothing about. Am long time retired here in south central Thailand and live only a mile from the beach in a very nice beach resort town right on the Gulf of Thailand. Thanks again Russ & Addy.
Well hello there! Glad to have you with us. Just up tonight watching the anchor as Eta goes by.
I learned a lot from this video! Thank you so much 😊
An excellent review of the common rules & regulations of boating as well as for RV’s too! One of the items/memories that came to mind was my late Dad’s rule for using the “head” or toilet. Absolutely EVERYONE Must be seated! He would say ‘that no matter how good of aim you had, sit the hell down’ ! Dad hated cleaning urine out of the bilge! Your comments on clutter rang true too. Put your stuff away when not in use, no matter What it is! My folks loved sharing their various boats or RV’s with friends and family. But there just had to be rules, period!
good rule. We should have put that in there!
Typical high quality, well planned, humorous, and very informative video. Always look forward to Thursdays.
Lol. He said Well Planned! Lol
@@TheOKellys Well, you have us all fooled then. I've tried to put together just a short video and finally gave up. It's so much more complicated than people realize.
The T shirt says stay wild!!! A contridiction is hear ! Loved this all the same as its funny as fuc! thanks guys again.
OMG this is hilarious! My favorite is the water running 😂😂 I've tried to make a list for our boat but this video sums it up with humor - great job !
So funny! You nailed it with the water usage....I have found since I got a boat I am much more conscience of my water use. Its a precious resource....even on the land!
Love this! Great tips. Honestly a lot of them would come in handy for houseguests as well!
I would love to hang out with you and I’d even share my favorite popcorn recipe 😂
At the beginning of every "Journey", the captain(s) should gather everyone aboard and read aloud "The Articles of War". :)
Most people can easily see the freedoms that you have.
"Seeing" the constraints that you must live under to achieve these freedoms, is not so easily done.
Great video yet again.
Awesome video. Will email to my fellow charter crew next year for our grenadines to grenada trip. Also how I have broken up bareboat chapter food costs is typically send one person from each cabin to shop for provisions. Usually they are either alone or know the cohabitant’s preferences. Before shopping I have each cabin kick in 100-250 into the kitty for food. Whatever is left over is used for future costs like moorings, ice, water, fuel, etc common to the boat. At the end of the charter whatever is left over we split up evenly. If we run short in the kitty we ask everyone to contribute again evenly during the charter to keep it solvent. Alcohol is BYOB. Everyone’s preferences are different or none at all. If you want to share or trade that’s great. Thanks for a great video.
Good tips Tim!
I love your humor in getting the point across, Thank you for these videos, they go far in giving people the right mind set to be in.
I appreciate that!
OMG I was cringing within 30 seconds!!! You guys nailed this. Well done.
Great video, this turn I loved to see you acting as the guests! If one day you decide to leave the boat live, can start a career in Hollywood! Congrats!
Hahahahaha....call my agent. Lol
Well done, we have no more to add, except, we love your videos. Thanks a lot and greetings from France
Great info!
All from 'YOUR' beginners memories aboard someone else's boat.
Boom!
This in all seriousness needs to be a full educational video/dvd onboard every single boat.
that's quite a compliment
@@TheOKellys total truth 💪🚢 🐚 🌴 ⛵
Sailing Doodles fixed the toilet paper problem with a "bum wash" setup. Might be an idea to check it out.
same as "Sailing Sisu", Frak called it a 'bun gun'.
I organize several charter trip over the last 15 years and you are right on. I add issues with crew arguing with each other on trip that lasted more then 2 weeks. I always had to split the bill between the alcohol drinker and the none drinker. One time, I did not and got into trouble. This is excellent information for people starting the cruising life who wants to bring friends with them.
yes, gotta keep those finances clear!
Really interesting, informative and even with some fun. Great video.
A must see video for any visitor!
I agree 100% with what you presented here. BUT, if you are a US flagged vessel you might want to look at the actual laws pertaining to guests and crew on board. You will quite probably be surprised. If you two great people invite me aboard for a fee, then you are a charter captain and you have to have a captain's license of the appropriate class for your vessel and area of operation.
If you two invite me aboard as a guest with the understanding that I'm not paying my way, there are still technicalities that most people aren't aware of. If I bring a case of Georges DeBeouf Beaujolais Villages (yes, it's red wine but I promise to only open and drink it outside) then guess what? I am bringing my own sustenance so to speak and that changes the definition of the trip and one of you has to have a captain's license appropriate for your boat and for your area of operation. The same applies if I bring a single freakin orange.
The regulations are insane and unreasonable, but that's what happens when you have unelected bureaucrats making federal regulations.
What a great episode. Your advice will surely make visits for many much more enjoyable
Great stuff guy's! A must watch for anyone coming abord.
Now this video is nothing less than hilarious but very true and very informative. Great job...
Best movie by far😂 perfect to share with your future friend who comes on board👍 thank you for the job you put in🤘
Great words of wisdom once again from the both of you.
Couple of questions I do have though.
How did you two get the 2 mannequins you used here through the marina without the other
boat owners taking notice? What "are" the O'Kelly's up to now? Raised a few eyebrows I'll bet?
Toilet? It's the head- so I've been told.
For breaking the boat rules of Etiquette what is the Capitan's option here? A Stern- talking to? It's the crows nest for you.
I have found the keel hauling works well in these situations. Deters future transgressions from the
offending parties. Don't make me maroon you on a deserted island with a bottle of rum and a single shot pistol.
It is why you have your own boat. You set the rules, if your not on board with mine- get your own boat then.
Great to see you two smiling again. Last rule- never ever waste Tacos while on board this boat. Got that?
That could get you thrown over board pretty much. Safe travels.
LAC
Lol. Been dragging those mannequins around for years and finally found a use! Lol. Also good as fenders. Bad watchstanders though.
@@TheOKellys Bad as watchstanders. What a bunch of stiffs they are. They never work hard at all. Not on my crew.
Mannequins life sized fenders- new for your boat.
DO it and film the reactions in the harbor thereof. Priceless. The O'Kelly's out takes.
Hmmm storing mannequins for years on the boat- takes up room for other things.
Now- why are they there in the first place again dare I ask? I got a great deal on them... they work cheap as crew members.
Present location? Heading south to warmer weather-we're on O'Kelly's time here- we'll get there when we get there that's the
plan and we don't really have a plan per say- that's the way we roll here on Clarity.
LAC
Love this video. This is very helpful! Thank you!
Another awesome video! I’m so happy that I found your channel.
Us too! Welcome!
Thank you for all the information you box into your video's.
Hi, if there is a "#1Head" that one can use a traditional urinal screen to prevent non-liquids from being deposited. Snaking paper or products out can be very time consuming! Any other heads can rely on the typical signage system;)
ALWAYS ENJOY YOUR INFORMATION.
Maybe not exactly etiquette, but as I hit my head AGAIN on the boat I was thinking it would be good to communicate to newbies that a boat is different from a house in that overhead clearances are not always what you are used to, the size and pitch of stairs is not standard as it is in a house, and that there can be lots of things (like cleats) to stub one's toe on. Move about with care and deliberation!
Good idea. Big thing for non boaty guests!
One of your best vids. Informative and entertaining!
Wow, thanks!
You two are the coolest couple I have ever seen 😎. Keep the videos coming and be safe out there!👍
Thank you so much, you’re very sweet!
I need to rewind and take notes.
Ok, we'll bring the virgin sangria, loads of extra Chapstick, coffee and sewing supplies. Is my purple Speedo ok? Just let us know which dock to meet you at! ;)
As Captain, I used to say: “You may be surprised how exciting intimacy can be when you COMPLETELY HIDE ALL AUDIBLE AND VISUAL EVIDENCE OF SEX from everyone else for the whole trip!” I used to have the whole party “repeat those nine words after me: completely hide all audible and visual evidence of sex!” Haha! This is an ice breaker, and a fun way to keep a classy boat for the benefit of all!
BTW-Private family moments also includes undisciplined children who may never have been taught not to whine, cry for effect and argue loudly, especially in the company of others...and many a good Captain has helped parents parent and improved the whole trajectory of their family’s lives in a short time! “)
One of your better videos - very helpful
Love this. Pretty much going to link this to future guests!!
That’s awesome thanks guys!
Just so much fun to listen to you and learn :) Would love to sail someday too. I am from South Africa if you ever come around to Cape Town or Simons Town. Would love to meet you. But I doubt me and my wife will get comfortable with strangers on a boat. I like privacy, order and a clean environment. Especially on such a small space :) You and the Wynns are my kind of boat companions. Enjoy
Awww, thanks Lourens. Hope we get down your way. Have yet to meet a S African we didn’t like.
We are soon to be brand new, green, newb liveaboards! Absolutely love the channel! Am I correct to assume that the water rationing and toilet paper issue is mainly while you are underway as opposed to being stationary at your slip hooked up to the marinas fresh water supply and weekly pump out services? You guys are killing it, keep up the awesome content! Subscribed!
Good summary! I had several times the issue that “unfortunately” there was not enough time left for guests to clean up their cabin, their bathroom etc. They just escaped. Did you ever experience that?
Not when they left, but during their stay...for sure
This is an AWESOME video. Thank you
Great info! I enjoyed both episodes on etiquette.
Thanks Christine so glad you enjoyed we had a lot of fun making them.
How do you handle menu expectations, food allergies and sensitivities, etc.? Do you have a planned menu for a given cruise?
We don’t have to deal with that with our friends and family, but if we were chartering I’m sure we’d be sensitive to peoples’ tastes.
It should be noted that any contribution from a guest, even bringing food to share, makes the boat trip legally a charter, which really changes the responsibilities of the owner. Then it is a commercial venture requiring permits, different insurance, etc,etc. While that is subject to interpretation, once the owner or Captain says " we will split the cost of fuel, permits, food, etc"., there is no question. Its a commercial charter.
Well covered.
I'd add just two things: I used to ask guests if they could swim. Some were a bit offended so I changed to asking if they are a GOOD swimmer. This lets the non-swimmers say 'not really'.
The reason I want to know is to decide if we have time to turn the boat around or if I have to go straight in after them.
(I'd also say if they go overboard when the spinnaker is up, just to wave bye-bye)
The other thing is to be a spotter if someone does go over. Keep eyes on them at all times and continuously point to them while you can still see them. Don't turn your head to chat, keep eyes on.
Today we use dan-buoys and so they can be told to just throw it overboard. Keep eyes on victim until the dan-buoy inflates and shows its flag.
There's an annoying rule in racing that says if you finish with fewer crew you will be disqualified, so even irritating crew and guests should be rescued.
Optional: after a weekend's cruising, it's nice to be taken to dinner on land, or at least asked. Also, no smoking. If they must, put them in the dinghy.
good thing to know. good thing to ask. good point!
Great video!!! Thanks for putting this together.
If you can not put toilet paper down there, where do you put it? or how do you clean yourself?
Thats a big list but yeah I get ya. Best to send this vid to any guests thinking about visiting, that’ll keep the numbers down 👍
Lol.. a fantastic video as always! Absolutely hilarious but so true!
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers
Steve
Just found your videos today and subscribed
Haha .. on the water subject , growing up in the Carolinas water was everywhere, but living my adult life in Colorado with no water. We have to teach people to take short showers and no baths and turn the faucet off during brushing your teeth ..
Water consumption-
Charter 1: 3 sailing instructors and 5 experienced sailors. Less than 1/2 of the boat's water used in 10 days.
Charter 2: 2 experienced sailors and 6 land lubbers. All water gone in 18 hours flat.
I've also done a 16 day blue water trip with no water maker or jerry cans with a crew of 5 sailing instructors and one well disciplined novice on a Beneteau 473. We made it with water to spare.
The difference is REAL!
How I wash dishes at anchor. Put them in a snorkeling gear 'net bag', tie a line to it and lower it into the water for the night. Nice and clean in the morning and the fish love it. All they need after is a quick fresh water rinse. Just don't do this next to a bunch of boats with bad "discharge" habits ;-)
Yes, good call on the net bag. That works really well. We are a bit spoiled these days on Clarity, but we are still washing the smoothie stuff off the back steps in seawater.
So do you not use toilet paper at all? Just a bidet or shower?
i thought I tuned into a National Lampoon video. Love you guys.
I discourage guests bringing aerosol sun screen. I'm told it damages plastics especially on instruments and stains gelcoat. And while some may disagree with me, I've stopped taking small children under 10 on board because they take away from the parents' fun on the water. This decision comes from experience from having guests on board with a small children that wouldn't mind, kept crawling up and down the companionway stairs, insisted on flipping switches, and refused to wear a life jacket. The parents were so busy tending the child they had no time to enjoy their time on the water. Also, while alcohol is permitted, I don't allow excessive drinking where a person is intoxicated to the point of endangerment to themselves or others.
U guys too much!! Hilarious...Will definitely use this video for future guests..Thank you Pierre
Will save this brief for my next guests ! Because when it come from me I am called “too bossy “..thank you . Pierre
Great video!! Thank you for sharing your insight!
I Love my Crew There Are 3 of US Me , Myself and i works a treat lol
never been on a sailboat but what a great vid
What no long HOT showers on the swim step? The tip on the dish washing is a great idea! From now on our Admiral (wife) will be doing the dishes. I (hubby) does the cooking.
So what do you do with the used brownish TP? Thank you for all of great the advice except for the red wine. I use it to gargle with after I brush my teeth.
Thanks again!!!!
Lol
Omg this was hilarious! Thank you so much, we are definitely going to take these tips onboard 😉 for our next guests!
thanks guys! See you soon I hope
OMG...that was funny. Nick, you looked like Hunter S Thompson in the Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas movie. All you needed was a kilo of coke and a Magnum 45 and your lawyer in tow and we wouldn't have noticed the difference. PS: Alcohol...always let your guests know what the status quo onboard is: I'm a member of the Bill W Fellowship and whilst I don't mind alcohol onboard, I expect guests to bring their own and if possible, for them to bring spirits rather than wine...because of the storage issues...it's far easier to store a single bottle of gin as opposed to a dozen bottles of wine, and if you must bring wine, then bring cask wine.
Hahahahaha...
A compliment for sure! What a character he was! Rode that rocket straight into outer space! Lol
We keep a little booze on board for anyone who might want it, but only because it was gifted to us. Actually there’s some aboard now gifted to us by a politician....so we get to serve them a drink and a good story! Lol. Never know who your going to run into out here. Hope we share an anchorage and a fizzy water someday soon.
Very very good information.
13:59 When I was in flight school, there was a sign in the bathroom that said, "If your manifold pressure is low or your pitot tube is short, keep your pattern tight." I wonder what the nautical analogue would be.
... 😒 even men sit to pee at sea.
Ha! Lemme think of one....
@@stevenr8606 Well, as a helicopter pilot, I prefer to just hover. :-D
This might be a weird question. How do you dispose of toiletpaper, since you can't flush it down?
Great episode, might come in handy as soon as we start to live aboard. I am also a fan of Megan´s catching smile.
Speaking of spray sunscreen you might add hairspray ;-) Greetings from Germany, Ute
Awww thank you for the nice compliment 😃!
OMG, do you freak out like I do in a public restroom when the Faucet continues to run long after you are done.
Get uncontrollable shakes. Not pretty. Lol
Great cousin Eddy!!
A lot of Australian have lived with rainwater tanks most Aussies understand water conservation.
We should all conserve water no matter if we are on land or on a boat, maybe we should all live on a boat to practice!
Thanks guys, great tips! Geez, no toot paper? Mmmm maybe minimal ...
In the nineties, while still a student, I used to work on a friends dive boat as a dive guide and deck hand/gopher for several summers. The initial instructions *always* included what goes down the head and what not, but still, on every 2nd tour, I as the "head-master" had to take the pump apart to clean it cos it was clogged. One time, we had a group of divers, all guys, one woman. one day, the head was clogged of course, and I find a tampon in the pump - the guesswork who it came from didn´t really require a Sherlock Holmes. I discretely took the woman aside and repeated the instructions (only piss, poop and vomit). In the evening of the very same day, the head was clogged up again. I found another tampon, made some angry plans, got the OK from the skipper, and the next morning, I served the tampon to her on her breakfast plate on a toast, for everybody to see and with a thank you note. GOD she was embarrassed and pissed! (but so were the skipper and I).
rebuilding the head sucks....you really can't piss off a captain or crew any worse than making them rebuild the head.