Cyril M ex-RMP told me a story of a friend from another regiment who was transporting stores across the camp in a Land Rover. He was young and hasty, and the stores were bouncing around in the rear. About the middle of the camp a large tin of paint bounced out and burst on the road. The two men looked at each other, they were in trouble. Quickly they debussed and grabbing a broom, spread the paint into a square, and then drove on. To their relief nothing was queried. Twenty years later, he returned to the camp for a reunion, to discover the square had been freshly painted.
I was told that story by a reme Sgt in his 80s about painting a white line around a square in a camp in southern England just before going out to Egypt (Suez crisis) on being returned base the square was freshly repainted ! .....seems a good story that gets retold year after year
I think it's similar to saying "hoover" for vacuum cleaner, it is incorrect as Jeep is of course a specific brand but perhaps due to them dominating the early 4x4 market, it turned into a word for offroad vehicles. I served in the artillery and we always called them "rovers"🤷🏽♂️
It should also be noted that in this time of sophisticated electronic warfare these lowly LR with no ECU’s would be pretty much impervious to electronic interference on the battlefield and therefore a real asset 👍
And can be fixed with a UK forces Mk l specialist hammer. Widely available in all forward workshops and invaluable as a close quarters weapon if needed….
The Landrover is NOT a jeep. The latter is a specific vehicle of US manufacture which has become like Hoover for vacuum cleaners, a generic name for off road vehicles. However bearing in mind the universality and continuation of this amazing and reliable British made utility vehicle, it deserves to be called and KKnown as LANDROVER.
Love all the Land Rover negativity on here. Yes Defender's rust on the chassis, but so do Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan etc, even the newer G wagons are suffering from chassis rust, the older ones suffer body rust , the difference is that most Defenders with a rusty chassis are 20, 30 or 40 years old, the other difference is that a new chassis is available from a number of companies as are 99% of the parts to rebuild the vehicle, the other positive is that in the UK, parts are reasonably priced and readily available, they're also very easy to work on with basic tools and easy to upgrade. Service them properly and they'll last a long time.
Love the Landy's, as an Amercian soldier back int he 80's and 90's I had the opportunity to drive Jeeps, Landy's and the HMMWV (Humvee).They each have their place, but I'd give the biggest advantage to the Land Rover. The best part of the Jeep was it's weight, you could throw it in low range, first gear and let out the clutch and it would find it's own way over or around obstacles/terrain. Oh, and that lieutenant's mustache needs to be recognized properly! 🤣
About 1960 I was surprised to see a demonstration of one of these as it crossed a stream completely submerged. The top was removed, and the driver stood in water to his chest. The only obvious modification was a tall stack to deliver air to the carburetor.
Have also seen videos of Defender's being driven roof deep in the sea going to and from landing craft...again the only mod was an extended air intake...
JLR made a huge mistake stopping production of these genius vehicles. They should have set up a small production hall to keep assembling these just for military or export use. Or contracted a firm to do it. Such a wasted opportunity. INEOS cloned this vehicle to build their Grenadier and charge mega bucks for it. Maybe JLR should have also just kept the body and running gear and put fancy and expensive kit on it.
The mistake they made was building it for too long. They lost their biggest buyer, farmers, a good 10 years before they upgraded the Defender. Once double cab pickups became readily available farmers dropped the Defender and its old fashioned ways for a dependable workhorse with heated seats, aircon that worked, comfort, and everything that comes with a modern vehicle. LR should have dropped the Defender in the early 2000s and come up with something new for farmers. Because they completely missed the boat they had to chase the soccer moms with the new defender, and are doing very well with it sales wise, which is all that matters really.
The problem is that the government wants to shop for equipment for the army rather than make it. Projects under government control overspend or fail. You can make old style landys. Yet the Army is dropping the landrover so this post is strange.
@@marksingleton7199 I think that they may have had their fingers burned with the Austin Champ: impressive vehicle to drive, but at nearly twice the price of the Landy, the contract was terminated before the full quantity was delivered.
I have owned my Land Rover 90 200 Tdi since new in 1991. Yes I know it is a "Defender" but I hate that silly name. My first two vehicles in the mid 1970s were Series ones (86 inch and 80 inch). The 200 Tdi has no electronics whatsoever. It does require maintenance and involvement but everything is fixable with a basic tools. There is no radio, couldn't hear it over the racket anyway, no air con, it leaks a bit in heavy rain and the heater does its best to overcome the draughts and lack of insulation. Despite its feeble by today's standard 110 horse power it will pull two or three tons with ease and no drama. Solid, noisy, not built for comfort, annoying at times but I love it and there is nothing else like it.
They are not Jeeps. When I used to drive them 40 odd years ago, they had a plate in the footwell that described Army Land Rovers as '4x4 Field cars'......
Fantastic vehicles! Unfortunately the procurements and contract support team behind the platform, not so much. Couldn’t get parts as minor as fan belts before I left and scrapping them for slight rusting on the bulkheads.
@@tdolan500 Absolutely false and never has been so with ample evidence to prove it. No owner refers to a Range Rover, Porsche Cayenne, Land Rover Defender, BMW X7, Volvo XC90, Land Rover Discovery, Mercedes GLS, Audi Q8 etc as a Jeep.
@@timjones6255 absolutely false after watching a video where someone using the common expression lol alrighty buddy I have an X5, my father borrows it occasionally. 100% of the time he asks for the Jeep keys.
@@timjones6255 I don’t want to make you too depressed but it’s literally in the Cambridge dictionary Jeep: Noun, a strong car with big wheels that is used for driving over rough ground
Not a Wolf HS, which is the only platform in service with the Army. It is a bespoke chassis, as is the Wolf. Less in common with it's Civi cousin other than looks.
Yep one saved my life in the Australian Army, I was a forward observer signaller calling in a training live fire mission in Shoalwater Bay Military Training Area in the late 1970's and had a major recently returned from the UK's Military School Of Artillery. Part of my role was to double check the Majors locstats, which were wrong, I called it got a dressing down and then sat on the ground with my back against the passenger side front wheel. His 1st adjustment round landed about 200 meters down the slope on the ridge we were on, did a fair amount of damage to the Land Rover as well which was between the point of impact and the FO team.
I was in the SA army in 1984 and 1985 and we had short wheel base Landys for the Officers to drive around. We used to wash the Garys as it was called with diesel to bring out the brown colour of the paint.
I joined the British army a longtime ago, as a 15 year old, although I’m not British. But l vividly remember doing the land rover off-road course near Aldershot. I was hooked on off-road driving. Loved the army land rovers. Now l drive a kitted out FJ cruiser.
I had the opportunity to drive an ex- military Defender Wolf identical to the one shown here a few months ago. It is extremely over built. Buttressed frame and axles. A total beast yet very smooth. I love my Series 2A but would love to park a Wolf next to it!
@@victorhodgson8767 Don't try and big it up pal. Plenty of hotels (and car parks) in all of those places - I've seen them. I lived in crab bases for about 6 years of my career and their Landrovers were very shiny and underused compared to ours.
@@victorhodgson8767 Oh, he replied :) Not at all and not even with the benefit of hindsight. I had a great time in the Army and did not like the concept of one person-one job that the RAF had. Very much a 'not my job' type of organisation. Anyway... Landrovers?
Love it! ... awesome event as always too. Would love to know who took the drone footage from Shotts. They must have got some great action! ... we passed under the drone a few times 😄 (car 27 red 90) well done all 👍
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
Yes I understand that ...the same as "Hoover" is used to describe all items of that nature as a generic term . But here he literally specifically identified what it was in the preceding word, then called it something else completely using a generic term! (usually used when you have not identified specifically what it is ) And more importantly if you meet a land rover owner and refer to their "jeep" They will get really upset !!! 🤣@@JohnyG29
They won`t be around much longer. The Army cannot get genuine LR spares for these, LR don`t make them anymore and the military will not use after market spare parts, only genuine LR parts. So, if the parts are not available they are deemed unservicable and sold to the civilian market. I`ve heard (on good authority) that the replacement for the military Defender will be a militarised pick up based product . That will be interesting!.
The Army use Land Rover Wolf Higher Spec (HS) which is a bespoke chassis, axles, suspension, uprated transmission, roll cage, fibre glass roof, 24 volt, twin alternator, 300TDI EGR. It looks very much like a civilian 110, but has less in common being a bespoke procurement for the MOD under the WOLF program. They made a mistake casting all the TUL 90s from service.
I purchased one of the last made and i just love it and i will not be selling it anytime soon they hold such good values cheapest car i have ever owned
Well the driver wants to learn how to drive over cross country properly. I served seventeen years in the British army (Royal Corps of Transport) We were always told you drive at 5mph or 8 km. over rough terrain, wing mirrors always pulled in and side windows always down, always turn your convoy light on regardless whether it was day or night. Army veteran R.C.T/ R.L.C 1985 to 2002.
What will the MOD replace it with now LR have discontinued it, maybe make them to a special MOD order like the old FWC Ambulance and Artillery tractor? Can't see a Range Rover or the new Defender doing the same roles. Is the PTO driven ammunition trailer still used?
I remember driving land-rover wolf FFR with trailer and through mud., stopping , then tied up stuck humvee and pulled the whole lot out of the mud. Also remember driving off 4ft drop on airfield whilst no lights tactical and it was fine
Similarly, they gave us brand new shiny Toyota Land Cruisers on Op GRANBY for non tac purposes. We had to send a Landrover to pull them out several times when they bogged in. As a family we owned a Land Cruiser for about 10 years a decade afterwards. Great for carting the kids around in style but there's no way it had the same off road capability as the Landrover. I do live in the country before someone calls it a Chelsea tractor 😁
i use to be a civy driver in ash church camp, i use to transport these all over the country after repair, you wouldnt believe the abuse the squaddies givev these, the boys at ash church, use to turn them around in hours. Picked up a 6X8 daf from warminster one day, chassis had been twisted through 90deg, they rebuilt it in 36 hours and on the monday, i was taking it back down on a trailer.
I noticed in the latest News Reports from Israel the IDF uses Landrovers. As they no longer made in the U.K, for several years, where are they now made ? I remember seeing Spanish CASA Landrovers built under license decades ago.
hi, blame the government for allowing LR to stop producing these vehicles. bad enough when the 101 was stopped, the Granadier coul be a replacement but very expensive, i understand the army is using Austrian vehicles at the moment that come in a 4x4 and 6x6 mode and are about 2 ton, for me the Bedford RL was top of the pops, easy to fix
The Pinzguaer 4x4 and 6x6 were built by British Aerospace, they bought the rights, they're very good off road but don't think they're as simple to fix. Developed by Steyr Puch in Austria many years ago. All these soft skinned vehicles are becoming obsolete due to IED's. There was an option to rebuild the 101 onto coil chassis and with diesel power but they were replaced with the Reynolds Broughton RB44.
Rather than phase them out wouldn't it be a good idea to put the 6,000 odd Wolf vehicles to be updated with new engines and transmission, armour where required etc. Done by a small to medium production company controlled directly by the army it would provide a good alternative to more modern platforms (which are normally an uparmoured version of Ford Rangers or Toyotas)?
Neat video. I like the part when they drive in the mud! In all seriousness, the fact these vehicles don’t have electronics and can be easily repaired is what a 4X4 is all about. What type of motors do these have and are they standard or automatic? EDIT: The lieutenant’s mustache is an accomplishment by itself! Well done sir!
Good workhorse yes but not if you need any armour. Jeep is a registered name for Jeep the Land Rover is not a Jeep. Jeeps were in use during WW11 the Land Rover was designed from a Jeep firstly with central driving position but this was not practical.
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
Simple ! Spend millions of pounds on a fact finding research program and end up with a useless dog then spend even more on fixing that one ( the thought of telling manufacturers what spec you want then insisting no useless fragile e components seems lost on the r&d dept )
They don't need them, due to IED's the defender can't be used in the front line, it's also too expensive for white fleet where a cheaper standard 4x4 Ranger or similar can be used. Even armoured Defenders didn't offer the protection, they now used Mastif, Jackal etc, all far more complex, expensive and better armoured.
Volume is key in a full fledged war. If there ever would be one where UK would take part that fleet would be depleted in a couple of months with 0 options of replacing it. I'm talking from a perspective of more than two hundred vehicles sent to Ukraine by myself.
I thought the mod stopped buying them after the 300tdi due to the td5s stupid computers that required computers in the field for repair. I thought they had started using those ugly Renault "van" looking things to replace the Defenders and be more compatible with the other EU militaries. JLR dropped the ball massively when they stopped production due to new EU safety and emmisions rules. Ineos proved a defender could've continued production instead of another Chelsea tractor in the same market as all the other JLR Chelsea tractors. Used to be a clear divide between what each model was intended for. Now they're all the same market.
No, the RB44 (Renault/Dodge cab) replaced the 101 Forward control Land Rover. Defenders are no longer fit for front line service due to the threat from IED's and lack of protection. It's cheaper to buy Ford Rangers for white fleet use. Much as I dislike the new Defender JLR do seem to have sold a great deal of them and I suppose they're in the business of selling cars. Ineos haven't proved anything the Grenadier can't carry the same weight as the old Defender, it also weighs over 2 tonnes and isn't much use for businesses as it doesn't qualify for VAT relief. Over complicated (auto box, touch screen, electronics ) and more expensive than the planned brief, I can see it doing badly compared to the new Defender, shame it's hardly British either, despite the union Jack's being waved in the early days.
You lose all credibility calling a Land Rover a jeep, shows you have not done your research or know the history. They are Land Rovers, plain and simple.
please re-record the voice over and stop calling them "jeeps". Jeeps are an American 4x4, the company is called "Jeep". What you are showing are Landrover Defenders.
Love the Landy feature David but with national pride at stake here, it’s a Land Rover, not a Jeep!
What he said. Not a jeep.
STOP CALLING THEM 'JEEPS'!!!!!
this^
@nnoddy8161 +1 more!!! Stop it
Cyril M ex-RMP told me a story of a friend from another regiment who was transporting stores across the camp in a Land Rover. He was young and hasty, and the stores were bouncing around in the rear. About the middle of the camp a large tin of paint bounced out and burst on the road. The two men looked at each other, they were in trouble. Quickly they debussed and grabbing a broom, spread the paint into a square, and then drove on. To their relief nothing was queried. Twenty years later, he returned to the camp for a reunion, to discover the square had been freshly painted.
I was told that story by a reme Sgt in his 80s about painting a white line around a square in a camp in southern England just before going out to Egypt (Suez crisis) on being returned base the square was freshly repainted ! .....seems a good story that gets retold year after year
@cedhome7945 old Cyril would be in his 80s now. He added, “that’s all you need to know about how the Army works.”
I bet that square has grown exponentially in the years since then.
Why is he calling them “jeeps”
You know why , stop being quasi sanctimonious
Jeep is a dirty four lettered word !
@@springer3783 it was an honest question, stop being quasi confrontational
@@frankleespeaking9519 stop being brit-ish.
I think it's similar to saying "hoover" for vacuum cleaner, it is incorrect as Jeep is of course a specific brand but perhaps due to them dominating the early 4x4 market, it turned into a word for offroad vehicles.
I served in the artillery and we always called them "rovers"🤷🏽♂️
It should also be noted that in this time of sophisticated electronic warfare these lowly LR with no ECU’s would be pretty much impervious to electronic interference on the battlefield and therefore a real asset 👍
Which is why the military declined the use of the TD5 engine and kept the trusty old 300tdi for the green field fleet.
Totally impervious to shell fragments.
And can be fixed with a UK forces Mk l specialist hammer.
Widely available in all forward workshops and invaluable as a close quarters weapon if needed….
Yes they would probably still function after an EMP
The Landrover is NOT a jeep.
The latter is a specific vehicle of US manufacture which has become like Hoover for vacuum cleaners, a generic name for off road vehicles.
However bearing in mind the universality and continuation of this amazing and reliable British made utility vehicle, it deserves to be called and KKnown as LANDROVER.
There’s bigger problems in the world right now
They are not saying Jeep. It is called a GP for general purpose.
My sentiments exactly a jeep is a jeep A landrover is far superior to a j**p
Not on this forum right now ! 🤣@@lachlanchester8142
In the British army that is not the case its known as the TUM ...truck utility medium. JEEP / GP is strictly of U.S origin.@@SCscoutguy
Love all the Land Rover negativity on here. Yes Defender's rust on the chassis, but so do Toyota, Mitsubishi, Nissan etc, even the newer G wagons are suffering from chassis rust, the older ones suffer body rust , the difference is that most Defenders with a rusty chassis are 20, 30 or 40 years old, the other difference is that a new chassis is available from a number of companies as are 99% of the parts to rebuild the vehicle, the other positive is that in the UK, parts are reasonably priced and readily available, they're also very easy to work on with basic tools and easy to upgrade. Service them properly and they'll last a long time.
Love the Landy's, as an Amercian soldier back int he 80's and 90's I had the opportunity to drive Jeeps, Landy's and the HMMWV (Humvee).They each have their place, but I'd give the biggest advantage to the Land Rover. The best part of the Jeep was it's weight, you could throw it in low range, first gear and let out the clutch and it would find it's own way over or around obstacles/terrain.
Oh, and that lieutenant's mustache needs to be recognized properly! 🤣
About 1960 I was surprised to see a demonstration of one of these as it crossed a stream completely submerged. The top was removed, and the driver stood in water to his chest. The only obvious modification was a tall stack to deliver air to the carburetor.
That might have been an Austin Champ, a much better piece of kit.
Have also seen videos of Defender's being driven roof deep in the sea going to and from landing craft...again the only mod was an extended air intake...
Is one of those stacks visible at 1:42?
@NmaeUnavailablesigh Yes...and they're more commonly known as Snorkels...
We use two defenders ones a 110 and the others a 90. Use them for arboriculture unbelievable bits of kit for towing.
Great vehicles which every soldier from the late 1940s til now and beyond will have experienced and can even buy as a civilian.
There is a special place in Hell for people who call Land Rovers "Jeeps".
I nearly spat my tea out when he described Land Rovers as “dependable”. Land Rover: making mechanics out of drivers since 1948
JLR made a huge mistake stopping production of these genius vehicles. They should have set up a small production hall to keep assembling these just for military or export use. Or contracted a firm to do it. Such a wasted opportunity.
INEOS cloned this vehicle to build their Grenadier and charge mega bucks for it. Maybe JLR should have also just kept the body and running gear and put fancy and expensive kit on it.
The mistake they made was building it for too long. They lost their biggest buyer, farmers, a good 10 years before they upgraded the Defender. Once double cab pickups became readily available farmers dropped the Defender and its old fashioned ways for a dependable workhorse with heated seats, aircon that worked, comfort, and everything that comes with a modern vehicle. LR should have dropped the Defender in the early 2000s and come up with something new for farmers.
Because they completely missed the boat they had to chase the soccer moms with the new defender, and are doing very well with it sales wise, which is all that matters really.
You can't deploy airbags in a Land Rover, the bulkhead jumps forward an inch under the force because it's not a monocoque body. So they had to go.
The problem is that the government wants to shop for equipment for the army rather than make it.
Projects under government control overspend or fail.
You can make old style landys.
Yet the Army is dropping the landrover so this post is strange.
@@marksingleton7199 I think that they may have had their fingers burned with the Austin Champ: impressive vehicle to drive, but at nearly twice the price of the Landy, the contract was terminated before the full quantity was delivered.
@@geoffm499 True.
Plus the airborn vehicles that dont fit in planes.
I have owned my Land Rover 90 200 Tdi since new in 1991. Yes I know it is a "Defender" but I hate that silly name. My first two vehicles in the mid 1970s were Series ones (86 inch and 80 inch). The 200 Tdi has no electronics whatsoever. It does require maintenance and involvement but everything is fixable with a basic tools. There is no radio, couldn't hear it over the racket anyway, no air con, it leaks a bit in heavy rain and the heater does its best to overcome the draughts and lack of insulation. Despite its feeble by today's standard 110 horse power it will pull two or three tons with ease and no drama. Solid, noisy, not built for comfort, annoying at times but I love it and there is nothing else like it.
No need to replace as there is enough spares to totally rebuild to as good if not better than new
They are not Jeeps. When I used to drive them 40 odd years ago, they had a plate in the footwell that described Army Land Rovers as '4x4 Field cars'......
Fantastic vehicles! Unfortunately the procurements and contract support team behind the platform, not so much. Couldn’t get parts as minor as fan belts before I left and scrapping them for slight rusting on the bulkheads.
i did this exercise about 20 years ago, had a great time. and me and Dan my driver won the best novice category. i still have the tankard some where.
Part of the education should be to make it clear they are not ‘Jeeps’ but Land Rovers.
Jeep is a common expression for any big 4x4 vehicle in the U.K. or Ireland.
@@tdolan500 Absolutely false and never has been so with ample evidence to prove it. No owner refers to a Range Rover, Porsche Cayenne, Land Rover Defender, BMW X7, Volvo XC90, Land Rover Discovery, Mercedes GLS, Audi Q8 etc as a Jeep.
@@timjones6255 absolutely false after watching a video where someone using the common expression lol alrighty buddy
I have an X5, my father borrows it occasionally. 100% of the time he asks for the Jeep keys.
@@timjones6255 I don’t want to make you too depressed but it’s literally in the Cambridge dictionary
Jeep: Noun, a strong car with big wheels that is used for driving over rough ground
First vehicle I ever rolled on it's roof.....
That moustache !🤣😂🤣
Even older than the Land Rover, eh?
IT'S NOT A F*****G JEEP!! 🤬
They can get newchassis from Britparts who have an enormous warehouse full of them.
Not a Wolf HS, which is the only platform in service with the Army. It is a bespoke chassis, as is the Wolf. Less in common with it's Civi cousin other than looks.
That looked like a rare species of ginger moth that landed on his upper lip
It's a tidy enough tash, he's just a little too young to be sporting it. He needs a beard to pull it off but I don't suppose that's allowed.
Yep one saved my life in the Australian Army, I was a forward observer signaller calling in a training live fire mission in Shoalwater Bay Military Training Area in the late 1970's and had a major recently returned from the UK's Military School Of Artillery. Part of my role was to double check the Majors locstats, which were wrong, I called it got a dressing down and then sat on the ground with my back against the passenger side front wheel. His 1st adjustment round landed about 200 meters down the slope on the ridge we were on, did a fair amount of damage to the Land Rover as well which was between the point of impact and the FO team.
I was in the SA army in 1984 and 1985 and we had short wheel base Landys for the Officers to drive around. We used to wash the Garys as it was called with diesel to bring out the brown colour of the paint.
I joined the British army a longtime ago, as a 15 year old, although I’m not British. But l vividly remember doing the land rover off-road course near Aldershot.
I was hooked on off-road driving. Loved the army land rovers. Now l drive a kitted out FJ cruiser.
They are not JEEPs. Jeep is a yank company. Land rover was BRITISH and the Defenders used by British Forces were made in ENGLAND! Get it right!
Good bit of kit
I had the opportunity to drive an ex- military Defender Wolf identical to the one shown here a few months ago. It is extremely over built. Buttressed frame and axles. A total beast yet very smooth. I love my Series 2A but would love to park a Wolf next to it!
The ones I drove had leaf springs & no “diff” lock, so was somewhat lacking in soft undulating going. ( Ex RAF. ).
It's alright mate, you only had the hotel car parks to contend with :)
@@tattyheid7279 Not in Cyprus, North Africa, & The Western Isles of Scotland, were “ car parks” available! .
@@victorhodgson8767 Don't try and big it up pal. Plenty of hotels (and car parks) in all of those places - I've seen them. I lived in crab bases for about 6 years of my career and their Landrovers were very shiny and underused compared to ours.
@@tattyheid7279
There seems to be a huge chip on your shoulder “pal” ! .
@@victorhodgson8767 Oh, he replied :) Not at all and not even with the benefit of hindsight. I had a great time in the Army and did not like the concept of one person-one job that the RAF had. Very much a 'not my job' type of organisation. Anyway... Landrovers?
Love it! ... awesome event as always too. Would love to know who took the drone footage from Shotts. They must have got some great action! ... we passed under the drone a few times 😄 (car 27 red 90) well done all 👍
He actually called it a Land rover JEEP !!!!!! 😲😲😲
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
Yes I understand that ...the same as "Hoover" is used to describe all items of that nature as a generic term . But here he literally specifically identified what it was in the preceding word, then called it something else completely using a generic term! (usually used when you have not identified specifically what it is ) And more importantly if you meet a land rover owner and refer to their "jeep" They will get really upset !!! 🤣@@JohnyG29
The new Defender is a school run toy and couldn't deal with the abuse and army throws at it.
JLR should have made a manual gearbox as well for specific market's and you're right about the soccer mum's.
Awesome bit of kit
They won`t be around much longer. The Army cannot get genuine LR spares for these, LR don`t make them anymore and the military will not use after market spare parts, only genuine LR parts. So, if the parts are not available they are deemed unservicable and sold
to the civilian market. I`ve heard (on good authority) that the replacement for the military Defender will be a militarised pick up based product . That will be interesting!.
Ironic when you consider most aftermarket parts are far superior to most things from LR🙄
I wonder if they will opt for the Ineos Grenadier or even *gasp* the Mercedes Gelandewagen!
The new style seems to aimed at the tractor brigade and not as basic clever vehicles for Army outdoor rangers and farmers alike
The Army use Land Rover Wolf Higher Spec (HS) which is a bespoke chassis, axles, suspension, uprated transmission, roll cage, fibre glass roof, 24 volt, twin alternator, 300TDI EGR. It looks very much like a civilian 110, but has less in common being a bespoke procurement for the MOD under the WOLF program. They made a mistake casting all the TUL 90s from service.
I thought you guys were going to be switching to something like the JLTV in the future or was I wrong?
I purchased one of the last made and i just love it and i will not be selling it anytime soon they hold such good values cheapest car i have ever owned
Well the driver wants to learn how to drive over cross country properly. I served seventeen years in the British army (Royal Corps of Transport) We were always told you drive at 5mph or 8 km. over rough terrain, wing mirrors always pulled in and side windows always down, always turn your convoy light on regardless whether it was day or night. Army veteran R.C.T/ R.L.C 1985 to 2002.
Landrover is not Jeep
"Jeep"? No! Land Rover 110. Some WOLF's.
What will the MOD replace it with now LR have discontinued it, maybe make them to a special MOD order like the old FWC Ambulance and Artillery tractor? Can't see a Range Rover or the new Defender doing the same roles. Is the PTO driven ammunition trailer still used?
So what will be the replacement now they no long make them?
@frogmaster An EV in flamingo pink with white wall tires .
@@bengunn3698 now that funny. 😁😁
I had a mate buy a decompressiones Wolf 90, and puts a TVR V8 in it.
What's happens now that the Defender has stopped production, or is Landrover still producing them for the Army?
The most modern Defenders the mod have come from the late 1990s. They’ve not had any since then. Defender production ceased entirely in 2016.
They buy aftermarket parts from abroad
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@@rjjj5836 No, they do not.
That’s the issue. The 110 GS was used as a run around, but now that role has been replaced by white fleet hire pickups or mini buses.
I remember driving land-rover wolf FFR with trailer and through mud., stopping , then tied up stuck humvee and pulled the whole lot out of the mud.
Also remember driving off 4ft drop on airfield whilst no lights tactical and it was fine
Similarly, they gave us brand new shiny Toyota Land Cruisers on Op GRANBY for non tac purposes. We had to send a Landrover to pull them out several times when they bogged in. As a family we owned a Land Cruiser for about 10 years a decade afterwards. Great for carting the kids around in style but there's no way it had the same off road capability as the Landrover. I do live in the country before someone calls it a Chelsea tractor 😁
i use to be a civy driver in ash church camp, i use to transport these all over the country after repair, you wouldnt believe the abuse the squaddies givev these, the boys at ash church, use to turn them around in hours. Picked up a 6X8 daf from warminster one day, chassis had been twisted through 90deg, they rebuilt it in 36 hours and on the monday, i was taking it back down on a trailer.
I noticed in the latest News Reports from Israel the IDF uses Landrovers.
As they no longer made in the U.K, for several years, where are they now made ?
I remember seeing Spanish CASA Landrovers built under license decades ago.
Stop calling it a Jeep :P
Only been in two rollovers both in thr back of LD 90s, upside down coverd in rat pac's and ammo. Though where the days.
Past mi driving test in one back in 1979 when I was a sprog😊
No longer built, spares etc. what is the replacement. Land cruiser? They must be getting ropey, can't keep going for ever.
hi, blame the government for allowing LR to stop producing these vehicles. bad enough when the 101 was stopped, the Granadier coul be a replacement but very expensive, i understand the army is using Austrian vehicles at the moment that come in a 4x4 and 6x6 mode and are about 2 ton, for me the Bedford RL was top of the pops, easy to fix
The Pinzguaer 4x4 and 6x6 were built by British Aerospace, they bought the rights, they're very good off road but don't think they're as simple to fix. Developed by Steyr Puch in Austria many years ago. All these soft skinned vehicles are becoming obsolete due to IED's.
There was an option to rebuild the 101 onto coil chassis and with diesel power but they were replaced with the Reynolds Broughton RB44.
Hi, A Land Rover is not a Jeep in any way or form. It should not be referred to as a Jeep. It's a Land Rover.
Rather than phase them out wouldn't it be a good idea to put the 6,000 odd Wolf vehicles to be updated with new engines and transmission, armour where required etc. Done by a small to medium production company controlled directly by the army it would provide a good alternative to more modern platforms (which are normally an uparmoured version of Ford Rangers or Toyotas)?
Give it the respect it deserves then.....its not a Yank jeep.....
Its a Landy 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
Neat video. I like the part when they drive in the mud! In all seriousness, the fact these vehicles don’t have electronics and can be easily repaired is what a 4X4 is all about. What type of motors do these have and are they standard or automatic?
EDIT: The lieutenant’s mustache is an accomplishment by itself! Well done sir!
300TDI engine which is a 2.5L straight 4 turbo diesel. Manual gearbox with high and low range
@@Willard05 Thank you for the reply. It obviously gets it done with power to spare.
Did I hear correctly....did he say JEEP (2.40).....thats twice in this video 🤣😂
Good workhorse yes but not if you need any armour. Jeep is a registered name for Jeep the Land Rover is not a Jeep. Jeeps were in use during WW11 the Land Rover was designed from a Jeep firstly with central driving position but this was not practical.
Lt. needs to tame that moustache before he catches it in a trip wire. 😂
It's not a Jeep, it's a defender big difference, I own a 110 300tdi defender County great off and on-road.
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
Its not a jeep......
"In lowercase, the term "jeep" continues to be used as a generic term for vehicles inspired by the Jeep that are suitable for use on rough terrain." - Wikipedia
What will they replace it with since they’re no longer making them?
2:30 that guys looks like general melchett from Blackadder. 😂
Then it’s a shame they are not made any longer
Don't forget the crucial factor: Replacing them would cost money
3:08
I winced at each mention of Land Rover Jeep, they are Defenders, Land Rover was the Manufacturer.
Did you know that 90% of all Landrovers ever made are still on the road? ……The rest made it home 😂 I’ll see myself out
Tim's 'Tash!!!
That journalist needs to wash his mouth out😂 Fancy calling a Landy a jeep.
So why is it so difficult to get spares for the. Now!!
Why is the reporter calling it a Jeep??!!!
It is NOT A JEEP!
ITS NOT A JEEP!
Jeep? It's a Land Rover!
Reporter needs to give his head a wobble!
JEEPS! That's a Yank vehicle company.
So what are the forces going to do now then as the Defender is no longer being built?
Simple ! Spend millions of pounds on a fact finding research program and end up with a useless dog then spend even more on fixing that one ( the thought of telling manufacturers what spec you want then insisting no useless fragile e components seems lost on the r&d dept )
They don't need them, due to IED's the defender can't be used in the front line, it's also too expensive for white fleet where a cheaper standard 4x4 Ranger or similar can be used. Even armoured Defenders didn't offer the protection, they now used Mastif, Jackal etc, all far more complex, expensive and better armoured.
Mmmmm look at those lovely Jeeps!!!! Who wouldn't know what a Land Rover was?! Probably Uni Educated!!
Volume is key in a full fledged war.
If there ever would be one where UK would take part that fleet would be depleted in a couple of months with 0 options of replacing it.
I'm talking from a perspective of more than two hundred vehicles sent to Ukraine by myself.
Absolutely loved these pieces of kit. The new Defender is impressive but moves so far away from the original concept. Such a shame.
The army really should have put in a big order for new Wolfs with JLR just before the assembly line was shutdown
Stop calling it a Jeep!!
I thought the mod stopped buying them after the 300tdi due to the td5s stupid computers that required computers in the field for repair. I thought they had started using those ugly Renault "van" looking things to replace the Defenders and be more compatible with the other EU militaries. JLR dropped the ball massively when they stopped production due to new EU safety and emmisions rules. Ineos proved a defender could've continued production instead of another Chelsea tractor in the same market as all the other JLR Chelsea tractors. Used to be a clear divide between what each model was intended for. Now they're all the same market.
No, the RB44 (Renault/Dodge cab) replaced the 101 Forward control Land Rover. Defenders are no longer fit for front line service due to the threat from IED's and lack of protection. It's cheaper to buy Ford Rangers for white fleet use. Much as I dislike the new Defender JLR do seem to have sold a great deal of them and I suppose they're in the business of selling cars.
Ineos haven't proved anything the Grenadier can't carry the same weight as the old Defender, it also weighs over 2 tonnes and isn't much use for businesses as it doesn't qualify for VAT relief. Over complicated (auto box, touch screen, electronics ) and more expensive than the planned brief, I can see it doing badly compared to the new Defender, shame it's hardly British either, despite the union Jack's being waved in the early days.
That’s a Top Tash for Movember !!
Btw.... it's not a Jeep, it's a Land Rover.
You lose all credibility calling a Land Rover a jeep, shows you have not done your research or know the history. They are Land Rovers, plain and simple.
Giving it armour and mini gun
Love it how its dlwats rupers they speak to ha ha. I know major urquhart. Grest guy 👍👌 might even be joining that regiment soon 🤔
great video but please STOP calling the land rover a jeep🤐
I don't think Land Rovers like to be called 'Jeeps'.
please re-record the voice over and stop calling them "jeeps". Jeeps are an American 4x4, the company is called "Jeep".
What you are showing are Landrover Defenders.
Jeeps ?
JEEPS ?
Jesus wept
Strong tash Lieutenant!
It's a good Jeep.
It’s not a Jeep, so stop calling the Land Rover a Jeep…it’s not!
Please stop calling Landrovers, Jeeps