Things To Know Before You Buy A Buell XB12R!!

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  • @localenterprisebroadcastin5971
    @localenterprisebroadcastin5971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Fuel pumps are easy to find you just have to rebuild the module yourself…yes the drop in assemblies are no longer available however the pump itself is very much everywhere online and auto parts stores if you know how to cross reference part numbers and bring the old one with you… as for your electrical problems, you need to go through every connector and reapply dielectric grease… the reason they get issues overtime is the grease dries up and if you don’t disconnect the battery , electrolysis can build up in the connectors… (This also occurs overtime as the wire harnesses are poorly insulated against that air cooled, blast, furnace we call an engine 😂) personally I’ve never seen one catch fire so you might want to check your grounds… switch everything over to LEDs …Other than that, just ride it

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good to know. I gotta go through it one time for sure. I know I asked dealers for parts and they no longer have them. I know people who have barn fulls or buell parts here in Wisconsin

    • @christophertaylor9206
      @christophertaylor9206 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I used an early 90's mustang fuel pump for my XB12X. ran perfect

    • @JohnDoe-mp1yn
      @JohnDoe-mp1yn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@christophertaylor9206 you mean a Ford Mustang?

    • @christophertaylor9206
      @christophertaylor9206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnDoe-mp1yn yes. Pretty sure it was the 93 Ford mustang with. Not sure if it was the 5.0L or the 2.3L but it was straight outta one of those. Ran perfectly.

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    "1000 in the past couple years" Bro I put on 1000 miles a month

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We get 4 good month if we are lucky. And in those 4 months I got a lot of toys to use.

  • @TheBevo67
    @TheBevo67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hi - I have a 2005 xb9sx, bought it new like your dad so I’m the original owner (has it really been 19 years?!). Love it. Funny you talk about spark plugs - this was something I ran into as well. As far as parts go, I think (for now), I’m not finding it too difficult to source (interestingly, some of the better sources are in Europe). One thing I would say is - DO NOT go to a Harley dealer for help. I’ve always found them to be very reluctant when dealing with Buells and when they do take it in for work, I don’t think they really care how it turns out (my experience from two different Harley dealers in two different US states .. I’m sure others may have had different experiences). Anyway, do your own work, get to know your bike - its now becoming, in my opinion, a classic, rare bike. I’m glad to see Erik Buell and team start making new bikes again - I’ll probably pick up one of his new bikes when available.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yah my Harley deals take Buells. But I also live in Wisconsin where they are made. Ebs new bikes are super cool. Out of my price range tho

    • @psylentsage
      @psylentsage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His new bikes are crazy pricey for what u can get on the market. I’m looking at getting an XB12 firebolt rn but the part issues is making me nervous about purchasing it.

    • @TheBevo67
      @TheBevo67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@psylentsage Buy the XB12 and don’t look back… regret and “might have been” will kick you in the ass.

  • @plap.
    @plap. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have put 80K miles on mine with regular scheduled maintenance. Still with original fuel pump also. Have had it since new with absolutely no issues whatsoever. Runs as good as new. Many parts can be cross referenced (like oil filters, injectors, fuel pump, sensors, ect)and purchased regularly at most auto parts stores. It is even pretty easy to get a reference list of parts on line from others that have already done the leg work. They handle better than 90% of bikes on the road. Expert level for sure but phenomenal none the less, with no need for a damper. Actually designed to work without one. Just a blast to ride hard and can take it all day long. Still my favorite of many I own, still ride it regularly. Do the same and your issues will miraculously go away. Anything sitting for 16 years with almost no milage will do the same. One spark plug is difficult to reach but a swivel solves that. No valve adjustments to mess with like other bikes,( do some shim under bucket valves on other bikes and then talk difficult). no chain mess or adjustments. Don't blame the bike blame the two people that let it sit with old fuel and haven't used the bike.

    • @romanfesas9721
      @romanfesas9721 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow 80k! Very cool

    • @plap.
      @plap. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@romanfesas9721 Texas heat, freezing temps, rain, wind, sleet and snow. It was my only vehicle for the first 3.5 years I owned it. The OG battery even lasted me 7 years. Lots of tires, 4 sets of hand grips, wheel bearings and 2 belts. Bike never let me down.

  • @mikealfabravosierra
    @mikealfabravosierra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excellent review of this "vintage" bike. I bought it in 2008 but it has a total of 16 thousand miles on it. In my case, her engine must be suffering a lot because in Brazil gasoline is mixed with ethanol at 25%. I have already carried out preventive maintenance, on the electrical and mechanical parts.
    I took the bike out of the drawer this year and put about 2,500 miles on it in the last month. So much fun to ride!

  • @DtheDissident
    @DtheDissident 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Parts are still being made for the Buell XB just not by HD or the new ownership Buell brand, Twin Motorcycles and some other aftermarket places have new parts for the XBs. Id recommend upgrading the regulator rectifier, getting the 3 bearing upgrade and fixing conector 77 if you get a pre 08 model and get an 08 later if you can.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They stopped making them in 09. Which this bike is. But yah Harley stopped making parts. Lots of people here in Wisconsin are holding nos

  • @Bacon676
    @Bacon676 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    My right ear loved this video.

  • @180FiftyFive
    @180FiftyFive 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the video. I think these are pretty rare and cool bikes - they are quite cheap even low mileage ones. I'll check out the rest of your channel, looks like you have a nice collection of rides.
    I found it funny how you say "rode it a lot" and say that he put on 1,500 miles in a couple of years! To me that's a garage queen. You're probably going to spend more time fixing it than riding it if you let it sit around.
    I'm not trying to brag but I can barely afford this hobby and ride about 6,000 miles a year and to me that was about average. 😅 I guess everyone has their own riding habits, but a colleague put 80,000 miles on his Yamaha over about 10 years touring the world while remote working, so that put things into perspective.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yah they are pretty cool bikes! For the price a good buy imo.
      I live in Wisconsin so we only have about 4-5 good months to ride if we are lucky. That and I have about 5-10 different bikes I put miles on so I ride closer to 3-5k a year, which is not a lot but its only my second year riding, this season I hope I can do 10k. Then on top of that I am a huge car person and have a couple sports cars that I drive consistently in the summer In time it will get the miles that it deserves.

    • @shawnblackwell5907
      @shawnblackwell5907 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you ever tried to reach out to Mr Buel?, that's his original spelling, just for legal reasons,he didn't use his correct spelling. He now operates under an electric motorcycle company called Fuel, look him up and see if he can help you solve a lot of the issues with the bike and even show and tell you what you need to do, good luck and great video. Btw,a gentleman bought a lot of these and reconfigured them, they were featured in some movies, look these things up and maybe they'll be able to help you with redesigns and trouble shooting them,also, I heard that the relationship between these two wasn't as nice as people would 🤔

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shawnblackwell5907 I have never reached out to EB but I know someone who knows him since we live in Wisconsin. Luckily I do not have another major wrong with the bike right now, and I assume EB is very busy.

  • @myronman3
    @myronman3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i have no idea what you are talking about when you say it is very hard to turn around in corners......i have had 3 buells.....2005 firebolt, 2007 lightning scg, and a blast i bought for my ex wife to learn on. all 3 were absolute razorblades in the corners....and i am a harley cruiser guy who doesnt like to push it in corners. these 3 bikes would cut through a 25mph corner at 55 effortlessly. it was so easy it was almost boring.

    • @joshuanewsome98
      @joshuanewsome98 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Prolly ain't got no gas in it!!!

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So got me a xb12x. Replaced voltage regulator because blowing headlight bulbs. The seat cracked harness connector to ecm. Moved the ecm between fuse box and battery. Still same cracked ecm. But since moving ecm it hasn't stalled from crack on ecm. The seat used to kill the fuel pump from pressing on ecm. You get a mustang fuel pump from auto parts store and put in the buell fuel pump assembly. It also can use mustang injectors. Dorman makes actuators for intake and exhaust. Mine likes to run above 3000 rpm and does run smooth. Below 2700 rpm it will rattle you teeth.

  • @MeyerBen27
    @MeyerBen27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put 9k miles on my 2005 Triumph Daytona 650 over the last year and a half. Only had to change the stator/regulator, oil changes, brakes once, and new tires.

  • @EggedAegis
    @EggedAegis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember my dad’s Firebolt! Classic gold and black, I’d love to get one like his one day

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yah I love that color way as well. Cool bikes.

  • @3041jmarsh
    @3041jmarsh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. Can’t find parts
    2. Most shops won’t touch them because they can’t get parts which equals unhappy customers and bikes that take up floor space in shapes.
    Don’t need a third reason. Just get a new freedom edition and drive it by HD daily.

  • @JR-bj3uf
    @JR-bj3uf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had a 2001 Buell M2 Cyclone. It seemed more like a prototype bike but now I have an itch for an XB. A really bad itch!

  • @costasgeorgiou5015
    @costasgeorgiou5015 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They stopped making them in 2010 buell stopped there connection with them in May of 2009 continued to 2010 with the 1125r/cr and I got about 29k miles on mine love the bike. Had stator issues but that is about it. Will soon convert the ignition with a Suzuki one, to make it bulletproof, but that's all I'm gonna do had mine for years

  • @enyelator1239
    @enyelator1239 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Btw you can’t water down gas. It’s equivalent to watering down oil. Gas has a shelf life and if your state has ethanol in the gas, that can interact with moisture and separate from the gas. That’s a beautiful bike, too bad your weather there doesn’t allow you to use it more. Sitting has killed the bike. If you are going to let it sit that long take out all the gas and store it empty. Turning on the bike and not riding it and allowing it to come up to temperature is also bad. I currently have two bikes and I put around 1000 miles a month combined on both of them. I’m lucky that I have no winter here in Miami and can ride year round.

    • @thiaguinhooitodois2211
      @thiaguinhooitodois2211 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turning on does not damage it. It allows the oil to circulate.

  • @thirdgearboogie2210
    @thirdgearboogie2210 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking about purchasing 2003 xb9r. I also live in Wisconsin. I would like to chat with you about what I am getting myself into.

  • @robertmueller9064
    @robertmueller9064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought a fuel pump for mine there are several companies that make parts for them

  • @eliinthewolverinestate6729
    @eliinthewolverinestate6729 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Run rec gas on all small engines. My wife's sportster says premium only but not all premiums are equal. Looking at Ulysses, SS, or Stt. Wanting the longer swing arm and taller seat height.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always run premium from good gas stations on all my Motorcycles.
      Also the other ones are cool. I haven’t had any experience with them yet.

    • @irocss85
      @irocss85 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@navscyclesi was gonna say the same thing he did.
      Recreational gas has no ethanol in it. THAT is the reason today's fields are not good for sitting long term. Octane rating has nothing to do with it. High octane rating is for high compression performance motors. I'm pretty sure these have 10.5:1 compression and that is not high. Supersport online 4s have between 11.5 to 12.5 compression. THOSE need high octane fuels.
      Since you ride infrequently I think YOU need to use Rec fuel. Lol.

    • @Lazerecho
      @Lazerecho 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rec gas has no ethanol, premium can, the extra octane isn't going to make it shelf stable 😂

  • @teltwosheds2972
    @teltwosheds2972 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having just bought an xb12x Ulysses on a whim 😂. It is too big for me,but. I love it!

  • @rsbharley4766
    @rsbharley4766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, as I am thinking pf buying one. Excellent info, thanks for sharing. Cheers

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching. I’m glad I could help at little bit with my experience.

  • @Headroom1001
    @Headroom1001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So it's very hard to turn around corners huh?

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not hard to turn more like challenging to lay it down without experience, imo

    • @Headroom1001
      @Headroom1001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@navscycles I agree they handle somewhat nervous because of the 21" rake. A steering damper will reduce that twitchy behaviour but it corners like no other bike. About the fuell pump, mine has run 28K Mi now during the 14 years I own it and I never had any issues. Oh and I'm still running with the second set of spark plugs (NGK iridium). I'm sorry to hear you've had so many problems for it is a beautiful bike.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Headroom1001 Yah I agree they need a damper, I have it on my list of things I want to do. Like I said fuel pump is probably because it sat.

  • @JAMESWUERTELE
    @JAMESWUERTELE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll help you out. Buy non-ethanol fuel if you can. I only run non-ethanol in my Honda. If you fill the tank up all the way before winter with non-ethanol, you don’t have to run stabil, which doesn’t help anything. Ethanol is awful, pump 91 with ethanol is ok if you are using a lot of fuel during the riding season.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always use 91 non-e, which in Wisconsin is the best we can get at most stations, select stations have 93 but rare.

  • @JAMESWUERTELE
    @JAMESWUERTELE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I ride Honda 1000RR’s, I can’t stand not having fairings. How is that bike in the wind?

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly the wind is not bad the little windshield it has does a much better job than you would think.

    • @soloproductions5666
      @soloproductions5666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im 160 that wind tosses my ass on my xb9r

    • @psylentsage
      @psylentsage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@soloproductions5666to be fair wind tosses you no matter what even my 800lb connie get slapped into other lanes if I’m not careful during a lane change lol

  • @DadeWheless
    @DadeWheless 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    seriously 1k miles in a couple years? I put 2k miles on my Triumph Speed twin in 5 weeks... You have barely ridden that bike.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I own a handful of motorcycles. I’ve started to put more miles on it already this year. Close to 500 already which for Wisconsin and my schedule is actually pretty good.

  • @markwinchester3005
    @markwinchester3005 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fair review.

  • @themuz3
    @themuz3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is almost a hit piece on buells. You let any bike sit with modern gas it will go to pot period.

  • @overlordisgoogle8431
    @overlordisgoogle8431 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review dude

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you!

  • @vood00samurai
    @vood00samurai 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Under 4,000 mi at bikes not even broken in

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it’s definitely not. For sure needs more miles

  • @georgeiftime6615
    @georgeiftime6615 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful bike😍

  • @scottlawhon9155
    @scottlawhon9155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your cc number is incorrect. It's a 1203cc. I have the same bike, same color just a year older.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yah I confused it with another bike I think I realize that now

  • @1381greg
    @1381greg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1280 cc ??? NOT.

    • @jaden9128
      @jaden9128 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is lol

    • @Oldguy1313
      @Oldguy1313 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correct.... 1203cc

  • @bluebullock3143
    @bluebullock3143 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rebuild kits online all day

  • @tokyosmash
    @tokyosmash 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is a 2009, big dog.

  • @druno83
    @druno83 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big Gun ! :) Thanks for the review

  • @ERidesOn2
    @ERidesOn2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This bike has nothing to do with the new Buell. Harley Davidson doesn't, either. Which is a good thing. It's not a great idea to buy an old anything from HD Harley, especially if it sits in the garage a lot not being used.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New Buell isn't even Buell anymore lol

  • @vazquezga2023
    @vazquezga2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Respectfully, all the problems with this bike is your family’s fault, no motorcycle is meant to just sit around, as you stated, they have to be ridden. You clearly like motorcycles but you’ don’t come off as a biker. We ride our bikes year round as long as there’s no snow on the ground. You put 1000 miles in a couple years, we do that in a weekend. That being said, enjoy the bike, it’s a cool looking bike

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So yes the issues are because it sat, and I said that in the video. But dont assume im not a biker, average riders do about 3k miles, Ive done about 10k this year. I own 40 motorcycles so one particular bike doesn't get major miles but every bike gets run at least a couple hundred a year, this bike sat before I had my license ever since only issues are the electrical issues mentioned.

  • @bluebullock3143
    @bluebullock3143 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Parts e bay .... All day

  • @Zach2Wheels
    @Zach2Wheels 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Harley project" isn't accurate. It was it's own company that Harley bought into. HD never outright owned Buell.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Buell was an engineer at Harley and he worked on the bikes when he still worked there and then branched off. You can get technical but it’s made very closely with Harley.

    • @Zach2Wheels
      @Zach2Wheels 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@navscycles he worked at HD, while building his own bikes on the side. His first bikes weren't even using HD engines. Harley had no idea who Erik was when he worked there. He created Buell independent of HD. Later they bought a majority of Buell (51-53%). They never out right owned them. HD shut them down because of the engine switch during the 1125 era. Which is the engine still being used in the current 1190's. They (Buell) didn't want to use HD engines anymore. HD lost 100 million dollars killing Buell. Clearly didn't work.
      It's not a big deal, most people are confused about the history and what happened. As it's a convoluted and confusing history. But it was never a Harley Project. Harleys involvement is on par with all of its purchases of other motorcycle companies, controlling competition. Literally had nothing to do with Buell until it got attention. Also they did nothing to help Buell, even when they owned majority.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s good to know. I always thought the first bike he build was with Harley since it says Harley on it but I think it came a little later. It’s currently parked in the workshop with one of my bikes.

    • @Zach2Wheels
      @Zach2Wheels 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@navscycles awesome sause!! I honestly couldn't say he never built an early bike out of HD parts. Primarily he used a company that ended up shutting down. But he did switch sometime after his parts supplier shut down.
      I have an xb12ss (2006), 1190Rx "Hammerhead" (2023), 1190Rs (2013), and I ordered the Fuell Fllow. It's an electric motorcycle* he helped design, won't be here till December or later in 2025 (or never, will see 🤣).

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zach2Wheels That's awesome. Lately Ive found myself itching for a 1125r but ill see.

  • @tomserbaducci8559
    @tomserbaducci8559 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldn’t even make it through the whole video. Wtf are you even talking about? Buells are some of the best handling bikes ever made, no idea how you had an issue unless that poor firebolt is beat up from sitting. May need new wheel bearings or steering head bearing. These bikes are smooth cornering. As far as the plugs…yeah, if you start this bike and ride it for 5 mins, you’re gonna go thru spark plugs. These bikes have to be let to get to operating temp at least before you put em away. Buells are absolutely fantastic bikes.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I state in the video the starting problem with the plugs in from sitting. The bike handles great but from my experience on the bike, and everyone Ive let ride my bike and even some other owners I've talked to agree that the bike is very raw and could use a damper. Not sure if you perhaps had a difference experience but thats my experience with it.

  • @norseman5041
    @norseman5041 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How much do you want for your garbage bike, I give you $1000

  • @ryanfigueroa6079
    @ryanfigueroa6079 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    UR CHEAP

  • @joshsteig8951
    @joshsteig8951 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have no actual Buell knowledge. Most everything you stated is false.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can MY experience and my opinions be wrong ? I’d honestly love to hear what I got so false. I’m always learning but honestly I rewatched the video and there weren’t any “facts” in the video really to get wrong.

    • @joshsteig8951
      @joshsteig8951 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plenty of parts available
      Buell produced through 2010 model year
      Your fuel pump failed because of crappy old ethanol
      Your plugs fouled because you started the bike and never road it.

    • @navscycles
      @navscycles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buell and Harley don’t supply parts. That’s the point I was making it’s all aftermarket. I literally in the video word for word said my fuel pump went bad most likely because the bike sat and because America has bad gas. No offense man but i literally made those points, seems like you wrote that comment without even watching the whole video.