I'm also riding moped in winter. Mine is electric moped (4 kW comparable to 50cc). My tires in winter are 12" off-road knobby tires with about 200 carbide tipped screw studs in each. They are superior to your friction & stud tires. It seems I live more to south from you, and roads are more snow free. Asphalt is visible and is just icy. With help from the climate change, I can possibly ride through this winter. I have not done *any* maintennance to my e-moped years! I fabricated a battery heater that takes electricity from the lithium battery itself, which is critically important feature in electric vehicle in sub-zero temperatures.
I know guys that would put sheet metal screws in the blocks of their knobby dirtbike tires for riding in winter. they drill a small one 8 inch hole in the block of rubber on the tires. They put a drop of super glue in the hole and then insert the sheet metal screw which is short. So the hex head sheet metal screw with a flat blade screwdriver slot in it gives them traction on ice, but, don’t even think of using these screws in tires you are going to ride on the street. You will go right on your ass the first time you go to make a corner, The difference between street tires, and dirtbike tires is this with a street bike tire, the street digs into the rubber. Just imagine sliding on your bare skin down an asphalt or concrete road. It would take your skin right off. That’s because it’s digging into your skin. that’s what happens with street bike tires Dirtbike tires. The flat part of the knobby tires has some grip on the street because the street will dig into that. It doesn’t have much grip on dirt. The only thing, or should I say the main thing that you get traction from on dirt/mud/snow/is the sharp edge of those blocks on your dirtbike tires.. once that edge is rounded off which can happen in as little as half an hour, that tire is junk, it’s worn out.. you will see an ice skater playing hockey, and you’ll see him fall when he goes to make a quick turn, what happened is, he “lost his edge “. The ice skate rides along on the flat part of the skate between the two outer edges. But it’s the edges that allow the skater to turn on ice without falling. That is a tiny knife edge that gives the skater all that traction on the most slippery surface known to physics. The most frictionless surface in physics is, wet smooth ice, sliding on wet smooth ice, at 33°. The edge of an ice skate can handle that with no problem because of the edge. Same thing with dirtbike tires on dirt, mud, snow, the sharp edge of the rubber knobs on the tires or what give the motorcycle tire its traction
if you dress your torso to retain heat, and you don’t have leakage around the neck. Your hands and feet will not get as cold.. your body shuts down circulation to your extremities to retain heat for your torso where are your major organs are.. An electric vest is wonderful.. cover your levers with -( i cover them with leather i got from trimming a pair of leather jeans.. I wrapped them around the clutch and brake levers, and I glue them on using 3M spray adhesive. Those metal levers suck the heat out of the hands while sitting at a redlight… buy boots 2 sizes larger for winter so you can wear a couple pairs of thick socks.. if you get an electric vest, get one with a heated collar.. your greatest heat loss is around the neck.. heated grips do not use a lot of power, and the thinner your gloves are, the more heat you feel through the gloves from the grips if you ride a motorcycle that you can buy competition trails tires for, do it. They are not DOT approved. The difference between summer and winter tires for cars besides the tread pattern, is the rubber. Snow tires/winter tires for cars are made of a more flexible rubber than summer tires.. competition grade trials motorcycle tires are very very flexible. They can get traction on slimy rocks While climbing a waterfall at a trails event.. i’m not talking about street bike trails tires, I’m talking about trials tires made for trials competition, made by Michelin, Dunlop makes them too.. those tires would be the most flexable and pliable for cold temp traction i rode trials , trail, moto cross , and dual sport machines for decades..i installed competition trials tires on my trail and mx bikes that i rode in snow and ice at times.. they worked the best
Mine never wants to start when it's cold, warm months no problem. Winter in Michigan I'll just kick and kick. I'd love to use the motor for a ice sled project but if it doesn't start what's the point.
I like to wear a merino wool balaclava under my helmet, its kind of stretched out but if you finagle it into shape. my tires are just michelin s83, i have to be super careful without studs lol I worry about salt too, its a blast riding it in the winter though, the elite 80, but I need some studded tires, how much those run you?
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Thanks man, Erwin from Holland here..
I'm also riding moped in winter. Mine is electric moped (4 kW comparable to 50cc). My tires in winter are 12" off-road knobby tires with about 200 carbide tipped screw studs in each. They are superior to your friction & stud tires. It seems I live more to south from you, and roads are more snow free. Asphalt is visible and is just icy. With help from the climate change, I can possibly ride through this winter. I have not done *any* maintennance to my e-moped years! I fabricated a battery heater that takes electricity from the lithium battery itself, which is critically important feature in electric vehicle in sub-zero temperatures.
I know guys that would put sheet metal screws in the blocks of their knobby dirtbike tires for riding in winter. they drill a small one 8 inch hole in the block of rubber on the tires. They put a drop of super glue in the hole and then insert the sheet metal screw which is short. So the hex head sheet metal screw with a flat blade screwdriver slot in it gives them traction on ice, but, don’t even think of using these screws in tires you are going to ride on the street. You will go right on your ass the first time you go to make a corner,
The difference between street tires, and dirtbike tires is this
with a street bike tire, the street digs into the rubber. Just imagine sliding on your bare skin down an asphalt or concrete road. It would take your skin right off. That’s because it’s digging into your skin. that’s what happens with street bike tires
Dirtbike tires. The flat part of the knobby tires has some grip on the street because the street will dig into that. It doesn’t have much grip on dirt. The only thing, or should I say the main thing that you get traction from on dirt/mud/snow/is the sharp edge of those blocks on your dirtbike tires.. once that edge is rounded off which can happen in as little as half an hour, that tire is junk, it’s worn out.. you will see an ice skater playing hockey, and you’ll see him fall when he goes to make a quick turn, what happened is, he “lost his edge “. The ice skate rides along on the flat part of the skate between the two outer edges. But it’s the edges that allow the skater to turn on ice without falling. That is a tiny knife edge that gives the skater all that traction on the most slippery surface known to physics. The most frictionless surface in physics is, wet smooth ice, sliding on wet smooth ice, at 33°. The edge of an ice skate can handle that with no problem because of the edge.
Same thing with dirtbike tires on dirt, mud, snow, the sharp edge of the rubber knobs on the tires or what give the motorcycle tire its traction
if you dress your torso to retain heat, and you don’t have leakage around the neck. Your hands and feet will not get as cold.. your body shuts down circulation to your extremities to retain heat for your torso where are your major organs are..
An electric vest is wonderful..
cover your levers with -( i cover them with leather i got from trimming a pair of leather jeans.. I wrapped them around the clutch and brake levers, and I glue them on using 3M spray adhesive. Those metal levers suck the heat out of the hands while sitting at a redlight…
buy boots 2 sizes larger for winter so you can wear a couple pairs of thick socks..
if you get an electric vest, get one with a heated collar.. your greatest heat loss is around the neck..
heated grips do not use a lot of power, and the thinner your gloves are, the more heat you feel through the gloves from the grips
if you ride a motorcycle that you can buy competition trails tires for, do it. They are not DOT approved. The difference between summer and winter tires for cars besides the tread pattern, is the rubber. Snow tires/winter tires for cars are made of a more flexible rubber than summer tires.. competition grade trials motorcycle tires are very very flexible. They can get traction on slimy rocks While climbing a waterfall at a trails event.. i’m not talking about street bike trails tires, I’m talking about trials tires made for trials competition, made by Michelin, Dunlop makes them too..
those tires would be the most flexable and pliable for cold temp traction
i rode trials , trail, moto cross , and dual sport machines for decades..i installed competition trials tires on my trail and mx bikes that i rode in snow and ice at times.. they worked the best
Thanks man
That's mental
What are those tires called and where can I get a pair?
These tires would be good where i am I think... not much snow but lots of rain and freezing temperature at night
Mine never wants to start when it's cold, warm months no problem. Winter in Michigan I'll just kick and kick. I'd love to use the motor for a ice sled project but if it doesn't start what's the point.
I hate when people talk about everything but what they’re supposed to be
It gets even more cold..ER
Should add a plexiglass windshield.
Tried it, but on that scooter it added too much windresistance IMO.
Weapon oil? Just get a tank LoL
I like to wear a merino wool balaclava under my helmet, its kind of stretched out but if you finagle it into shape. my tires are just michelin s83, i have to be super careful without studs lol I worry about salt too, its a blast riding it in the winter though, the elite 80, but I need some studded tires, how much those run you?
Baclava? I'm joking