Good point. This was filmed (a) on a Sunday, (b) in the evening (~7pm), and (c) right after a heavy storm throughout the day… all of which likely contributes to the town - and the people mover - being mostly empty.
I spent this past summer in Ann Arbor and was in Detroit just about every weekend. It was busy, vibrant and fun in Downtown. This is definitely not the usual weekend vibe.
This rolling stock you rode was built by the Urban Transportation Development Corporation in Ontario, Canada. Originally for Toronto's defunct Scarborough RT. Basically in the early 70s, the Ontario government launched GO-Urban, an intermediate capacity transit system across Toronto's suburbs using experimental ARTs by Krauss-Maffei, a then West German manufacturer. And that's exactly where its troubles began because the West German government refused to give further funding for Krauss-Maffei's ARTs, leading to the project's cancellation in 1974. But this didn't affect the plan in Canada, as GO-Urban actually studied the Krauss-Maffei's Transurban ARTs and created their own simpler version called the ICTS (now known as the Bombardier Innovia Metro after Bombardier's takeover of the Crown corporation that developed them). During this same period, the TTC wanted to extend its streetcars, and had a Scarborough extension in the books. But the Ontario government, being ambitious about their new system, demanded the TTC to use their new ICTS for the Scarborough extension as a testing ground. Since streetcar construction already began (with a streetcar loop at Kennedy station that ended up being used by the RT briefly but proved too sharp), they felt just stopping and putting the ICTS there instead would be a waste of money, but since a big percentage of the money was coming from the Ontario government...they had no choice. It opened in 1985 and eventually closed in 2023 in favor of a Line 2 subway extension due to aging infrastructure but was supposed to close in November 2023 and instead closed in July 2023 due to a derailment.
Ah yes, the Detroit People Mover...I had the opportunity to ride it when I was there in Spring Break 2019 for the FRC Robotics World Championship. The Vancouver SkyTrain has used the same rolling stock as the DPM, but the difference it is it's a big success as it connects places like Richmond (where YVR airport is located), Barnaby, and Surrey with Vancouver, bringing people INTO the city! Miami's Metromover also goes around downtown just like the DPM does (with different rolling stock), but that TOO is a success because it has different loops and a metro system to supplement it and again, takes people where they want to go which has led to lots of development. The thing most people forget is that it was never intended to be a standalone system. It was originally meant as a feeder downtown circular for a plan of a Metro-Detroit wide light-rail system which included a subway line along Woodward Avenue that would turn into a street level train at McNichols and eventually go all the way to Pontiac, with additional rail lines running along Gratiot and a commuter line between Detroit and Port Huron. Because of the city and suburbs's inability to agree on what to do, the federal commitment was withdrawn by Reagan. The QLine built in 2017 is a step closer to that old vision. That said, I still have a lot of faith in Detroit. As shown in Vancouver and in Miami, transit and development need each other. Build developments, give people reasons to take transit, expand the transit for more opportunity, and there's your ridership!
Weird how they took down all the elevated railways - and then built this... It covers a tiny area of the city and doesn't link directly to any other transit system. And, if you want to go to the station or two going the other way, you have to ride the thing right the way round! How to do this properly? Just check out the London Docklands Light Railway.
Not sure about Detroit specifically but many elevated lines were torn down because of age and the cost to repair. The system appeared to connect to a light rail a 15:52. Miami has a people mover system as well that has direct heavy rail connections.
the camera quality is so nice, this was such a fun watch!! i really loved downtown detroit when i visited; very empty, but still very beautiful and the rebounding spirit was noticeable.
I agree with you about the camera quality as well as downtown Detroit In Morgantown, West Virginia, they have a completely automated rapid transit system that serves the campus of West Virginia University called PRT personal rapid transit. It’s actually really neat how that system works if you ever get a chance, go and check it out.
I get that it was a grey and miserable day, but man, this is the ultimate non-advertisement for Detroit. Everything looks straight out of Robocop (and I get thats what they based the city on) but its just occasional brightly lit glass structures inbetween complete urban decay.
It's true. The success of the movie Robocop inspired people to create a real life city called Detroit. Not the video game Detroit Become Human as many mistakenly believe.
Wow that was cool, I liked the station that gave the illusion it were underground including it's tunneling, must be one big building to create that effect.
Detroit did a great job building their downtown. It looks much better now then when I rode the people mover in the mid to late 1990s. They are also building up their neighborhoods.
very good shots, a great video, this train looks like the route of a roller coaster, I love it... could you take the same shots of this train but at night? It would be great😊😊
I've used the Detroit People Mover many, many times during my long stays in downtown Detroit. I marvel at the fact that it still operates because it has so few paying fares on any day at any time. It must be government subsidized. In one respect, a ride on the entire circuit (I've done in quite a few times) is really a bad public-relations exercise, because it's a tour of a dead city, and showcases that. I've often peered out the windows and imagined what all those empty buildings were like when they were occupied by the now-closed businesses. It's really sad. That said, I know there has been a great deal of effort to revitalize downtown Detroit, and I know progress has been made. I sure hope it continues! I've known and have become friends with many wonderful people there. Inept and corrupt government caused downtown Detroit's decline, so it deserves what it got. Best wishes to those who are trying to turn it around!
Last time i was in Detroit was 1985; to visit Relatives. Took a stroll through the Downtown; and alot of parts; not all; seemed vibrant. This looked like a Ghost town. Hardly any traffic; and hardly any people.
Oh man, what a fantastic tour of central Detroit! Having been _completely_ messed-up by the pandemic and unlikely to travel much ever again, it's nice to still be able to experience this virtually. Many thanks from the UK! 👋🇬🇧😇 Also: Is it me, or does the DPM not run at all well on straight sections of track? London's DLR has a similar problem (VERY noticeable between Shadwell and Limehouse) normally caused by steep angle profiles on the wheels. 🙂
I think it's just the trains being badly maintained Vancouver's Skytrain which uses the same technology and same type of train doesn't ride too roughly even at high speeds (it's also quieter, at least most trains are)
This is actually really cool and a good way to get around the city centre. More cities should have a tram like this in their core to eliminate car traffic. I love some of Detroit's old historical highrise buildings from the American industrial golden age.
You still get terrible traffic after Lions and Red Wings games because not enough people are smart enough to use this to park further away and save money.
i see the main issue that plagues most american cities. everything is "inward facing" yes there are modern buildings, bt no storefronts and restaurants. no reason for the public to interface with the sidewalk. people go from parking structure right into their office buildings. im sure all the eateries and services are contained within as well. you can intermingle all the pretty parks you want , but if nobody is outside they wont bother going. jane jacobs highlighted this very well in her writings. great ride on a nice piece of infrastructure though
Agree with the others. The streets look forlorn. Even at ground level you can see what were grand stores etc of downtown just are empty . I mean this is the same place that pulled down the huge old Hudsons department store downtown a decade or so ago.
Thank you for the tour around Detroit. It didn't bother that it wasn't teeming with people, I just enjoyed the tour. Thank you again from sunny Spain. ❤❤
So this is what I remember about the People Mover: Originally, the regional bus system (then called SEMTA, for South-East Mass Transit Agency) was building it before pulling the plug on it because of cost overruns. Then Coleman Young, the mayor of Detroit, took the project over. But here's the thing: The other reason that SEMTA pulled the plug on the project was that the People Mover was always intended to be the hub of a light-rail system that connected Macomb, Oakland and Wayne counties together. It was never intended to be a stand-alone rail.
Looks like the shuttle between terminals in an airport, where are all the people, I think I counted 3 people waiting in stations, and nobody walking in the street which go from modern to ancient. I see old films of the third ave elevated when it snaked its way through lower Manhattan canyons in the financial area in the 30sand 40s
The downside being that the DLR doesn't sound nearly as epic (Haven't experienced the newer CAF trains yet, though) but having *two* tracks makes getting to the station you want a *lot* quicker... 😉
😅excelente video y recorrido,CHICAGO...debe ser unas de las ciudades más lindas de Estados Unidos.Hermosa arquitectura.Gracias por el video,tuve la sensación de estar ahí.
#RedactedRail: At around 5:45 - 5:55, I couldn't help but notice the old Maple Leaf flapping across the waters. Forgive my geographic ignorance, but was that really a Canadian city looking across Detroit? What's the name of the region?❤
Windsor, Ontario is the southernmost city in Canada and the only one that looks north to the USA. Linked by the Ambassador Bridge and by the tunnel that runs under the Detroit River connecting the downtown of both cities. Windsor is also an automotive city with large car factories.
...And the motors are so loud, it can be heard in Canada too! 🇺🇸🔊🇨🇦🙃 I wonder if the City of Detroit has to pay for exporting noise over the river?... 🔊🏞🛂😋
As a former NYC resident I can only look at this and say why? This looks like it was expensive to build, hard to maintain, in the way of construction and only covers a small area that most New Yorker's would walk even if the thing was available.
I’ve never visited but, it looks like there are no stations close to where anything with people and community is happening. Most stations in the desolate urban desert areas.
Guess this is the IRL version of the imaginary Detroit Subway on “Bob ❤ Ahishola. “ The city looks as empty and desolate as it did when I was there in 1979.
Apart from the comments posted, I thought it odd that there is no sign of construction going on (I know it's Sunday) and no demolition or anything being torn down. Very little signage too, except for GM. Leap Day, 2024. St. Joseph, MO, USA.
I am glad that Cleveland rejected this in the 70's. I think it works for the way Detroit's downtown is spread out. Would not look good in a city with a compact skyscraper density.
I would have filmed it on a sunny weekday. It might make the city look less like a has been and very nearly a ghost town and maybe a city with a bit of life. 🏳🌈
If there's some way to keep the riff-raff away from those who need to ride, it might work. But that'll be difficult to do with those who contribute little to nothing but consider themselves to be "entitled".
This was a pet project of Detroit Mayor Coleman Young. Had a lot of opposition, and had the nickname "Coleman's Train." Opened in 1987. I loved riding it in those early years!!
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It would help to knew what day and time this was recorded because the lack of people and vehicles seems strange to this out-of-towner.
A lot of American downtowns tend to be like this. Dead on weekends. And commuters drive out after work on weekdays.
Good point. This was filmed (a) on a Sunday, (b) in the evening (~7pm), and (c) right after a heavy storm throughout the day… all of which likely contributes to the town - and the people mover - being mostly empty.
i want change
I spent this past summer in Ann Arbor and was in Detroit just about every weekend. It was busy, vibrant and fun in Downtown. This is definitely not the usual weekend vibe.
Cadê o trem de volta..
As a fan of the now defunct Toronto Scarborough RT, it's nice to see those familiar tracks again.
This rolling stock you rode was built by the Urban Transportation Development Corporation in Ontario, Canada. Originally for Toronto's defunct Scarborough RT. Basically in the early 70s, the Ontario government launched GO-Urban, an intermediate capacity transit system across Toronto's suburbs using experimental ARTs by Krauss-Maffei, a then West German manufacturer. And that's exactly where its troubles began because the West German government refused to give further funding for Krauss-Maffei's ARTs, leading to the project's cancellation in 1974. But this didn't affect the plan in Canada, as GO-Urban actually studied the Krauss-Maffei's Transurban ARTs and created their own simpler version called the ICTS (now known as the Bombardier Innovia Metro after Bombardier's takeover of the Crown corporation that developed them).
During this same period, the TTC wanted to extend its streetcars, and had a Scarborough extension in the books. But the Ontario government, being ambitious about their new system, demanded the TTC to use their new ICTS for the Scarborough extension as a testing ground. Since streetcar construction already began (with a streetcar loop at Kennedy station that ended up being used by the RT briefly but proved too sharp), they felt just stopping and putting the ICTS there instead would be a waste of money, but since a big percentage of the money was coming from the Ontario government...they had no choice. It opened in 1985 and eventually closed in 2023 in favor of a Line 2 subway extension due to aging infrastructure but was supposed to close in November 2023 and instead closed in July 2023 due to a derailment.
Ah yes, the Detroit People Mover...I had the opportunity to ride it when I was there in Spring Break 2019 for the FRC Robotics World Championship. The Vancouver SkyTrain has used the same rolling stock as the DPM, but the difference it is it's a big success as it connects places like Richmond (where YVR airport is located), Barnaby, and Surrey with Vancouver, bringing people INTO the city! Miami's Metromover also goes around downtown just like the DPM does (with different rolling stock), but that TOO is a success because it has different loops and a metro system to supplement it and again, takes people where they want to go which has led to lots of development.
The thing most people forget is that it was never intended to be a standalone system. It was originally meant as a feeder downtown circular for a plan of a Metro-Detroit wide light-rail system which included a subway line along Woodward Avenue that would turn into a street level train at McNichols and eventually go all the way to Pontiac, with additional rail lines running along Gratiot and a commuter line between Detroit and Port Huron. Because of the city and suburbs's inability to agree on what to do, the federal commitment was withdrawn by Reagan. The QLine built in 2017 is a step closer to that old vision. That said, I still have a lot of faith in Detroit. As shown in Vancouver and in Miami, transit and development need each other. Build developments, give people reasons to take transit, expand the transit for more opportunity, and there's your ridership!
I see you everywhere
Give it time. Huge amount of growth since 2019. I was just there.
Weird how they took down all the elevated railways - and then built this...
It covers a tiny area of the city and doesn't link directly to any other transit system. And, if you want to go to the station or two going the other way, you have to ride the thing right the way round!
How to do this properly? Just check out the London Docklands Light Railway.
yea, that would have bee too easy😂
Not sure about Detroit specifically but many elevated lines were torn down because of age and the cost to repair. The system appeared to connect to a light rail a 15:52. Miami has a people mover system as well that has direct heavy rail connections.
@@davidorazine8239the streetcar on Woodward is called the QLine.
This has a post-apocalyptic flavor to it. A gray day, virtually nobody on the streets, very few cars.
Planning on coming to Detroit in August, so excited to ride this!!
Coleman's Train --- LOVE it. Thanks.
Speaking as one who is never likely to venture anywhere near Detroit, I found this to be kinda interesting .... many thanks for putting this together.
Lived there for a few years around 1970. It was depressing back then, but this...!!
the camera quality is so nice, this was such a fun watch!! i really loved downtown detroit when i visited; very empty, but still very beautiful and the rebounding spirit was noticeable.
I agree with you about the camera quality as well as downtown Detroit
In Morgantown, West Virginia, they have a completely automated rapid transit system that serves the campus of West Virginia University called PRT personal rapid transit. It’s actually really neat how that system works if you ever get a chance, go and check it out.
I did get a chance to visit back in November 2021; will post a video from when I was there at some point!
Thank you for this video
I get that it was a grey and miserable day, but man, this is the ultimate non-advertisement for Detroit. Everything looks straight out of Robocop (and I get thats what they based the city on) but its just occasional brightly lit glass structures inbetween complete urban decay.
No people, guess I don't have to install magnavolt in my 6000SUX....
Well it's Detroit, what did you expect? 😂
I’d buy that for a dollar!! 😂
It's true. The success of the movie Robocop inspired people to create a real life city called Detroit.
Not the video game Detroit Become Human as many mistakenly believe.
Here from Miles in Transit’s video!! lol :D
Very interesting to see. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Wow that was cool, I liked the station that gave the illusion it were underground including it's tunneling, must be one big building to create that effect.
Detroit did a great job building their downtown. It looks much better now then when I rode the people mover in the mid to late 1990s. They are also building up their neighborhoods.
Love it, great video
Oh Detroit, oh Detroit, my heart is so sore when I see you like this. What a flourishing, great city you must once have been. 😢
very good shots, a great video, this train looks like the route of a roller coaster, I love it... could you take the same shots of this train but at night? It would be great😊😊
you should do a second video where you go into every single station or at least some more stations
I've used the Detroit People Mover many, many times during my long stays in downtown Detroit. I marvel at the fact that it still operates because it has so few paying fares on any day at any time. It must be government subsidized. In one respect, a ride on the entire circuit (I've done in quite a few times) is really a bad public-relations exercise, because it's a tour of a dead city, and showcases that. I've often peered out the windows and imagined what all those empty buildings were like when they were occupied by the now-closed businesses. It's really sad. That said, I know there has been a great deal of effort to revitalize downtown Detroit, and I know progress has been made. I sure hope it continues! I've known and have become friends with many wonderful people there. Inept and corrupt government caused downtown Detroit's decline, so it deserves what it got. Best wishes to those who are trying to turn it around!
Last time i was in Detroit was 1985; to visit Relatives. Took a stroll through the Downtown; and alot of parts; not all; seemed vibrant. This looked like a Ghost town. Hardly any traffic; and hardly any people.
Oh man, what a fantastic tour of central Detroit! Having been _completely_ messed-up by the pandemic and unlikely to travel much ever again, it's nice to still be able to experience this virtually. Many thanks from the UK! 👋🇬🇧😇
Also: Is it me, or does the DPM not run at all well on straight sections of track? London's DLR has a similar problem (VERY noticeable between Shadwell and Limehouse) normally caused by steep angle profiles on the wheels. 🙂
I think it's just the trains being badly maintained
Vancouver's Skytrain which uses the same technology and same type of train doesn't ride too roughly even at high speeds (it's also quieter, at least most trains are)
This is actually really cool and a good way to get around the city centre. More cities should have a tram like this in their core to eliminate car traffic. I love some of Detroit's old historical highrise buildings from the American industrial golden age.
You still get terrible traffic after Lions and Red Wings games because not enough people are smart enough to use this to park further away and save money.
i see the main issue that plagues most american cities. everything is "inward facing" yes there are modern buildings, bt no storefronts and restaurants. no reason for the public to interface with the sidewalk. people go from parking structure right into their office buildings. im sure all the eateries and services are contained within as well. you can intermingle all the pretty parks you want , but if nobody is outside they wont bother going. jane jacobs highlighted this very well in her writings. great ride on a nice piece of infrastructure though
You avoid the crime that way.
Americans just live in fear of """crime""" (ie black people walking down the street) that doesn't occur.@@SteamCrane
Not in this city . I was there last summer and plenty of walk storefront walk to restaurants etc. great walkaround city downtown.
They can always add to it, like Vancouver..
Hopefully, now that they're buying the S-series trains from the Scarborough RT, they can probably expand.
I wonder what the cost comparison is like between this and the light rail that is in Phoenix, AZ, and many other cities.
Agree with the others. The streets look forlorn. Even at ground level you can see what were grand stores etc of downtown just are empty . I mean this is the same place that pulled down the huge old Hudsons department store downtown a decade or so ago.
The building under construction at 13:54 is finally replacing the Hudson building site.
Very interesting. People in comments call it Ghost town but i find this very tranquil and serene. I kinda like this.
Thank you for the tour around Detroit. It didn't bother that it wasn't teeming with people, I just enjoyed the tour. Thank you again from sunny Spain. ❤❤
We have one of these in Indy but its only for the hospital use
So this is what I remember about the People Mover:
Originally, the regional bus system (then called SEMTA, for South-East Mass Transit Agency) was building it before pulling the plug on it because of cost overruns. Then Coleman Young, the mayor of Detroit, took the project over. But here's the thing: The other reason that SEMTA pulled the plug on the project was that the People Mover was always intended to be the hub of a light-rail system that connected Macomb, Oakland and Wayne counties together. It was never intended to be a stand-alone rail.
Does anyone live in Detroit? Good quality video, thanks.
There's possibility the Detroit People Mover will aquire the ICTS cars from the now retired Scarborough RT from the Toronto Transit Commission.
Looks like the shuttle between terminals in an airport, where are all the people, I think I counted 3 people waiting in stations, and nobody walking in the street which go from modern to ancient. I see old films of the third ave elevated when it snaked its way through lower Manhattan canyons in the financial area in the 30sand 40s
I remember riding on this during my visit to Detroit 10 years ago
The People Mover Mk1s have the Vancouver-style ring before stop announcing & Toronto's door closing chime. It must be a UTDC thing
Красивый маршрут. И видео очень качественное и атмосферное. Даже захотелось налить горячего чаю с лимоном, чтоб согреться )
L'on n'y comprends un mot
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Did they switch the direction? It used to run counter-clockwise from the Renaissance Center.
Thanks for the interesting video! 👍
This video would make a perfect intro for a dystopian sci-fi movie. Maybe with crime ridden slums and a cyborg cop. Ho, wait...
Read about the Detroit streetcar (which the line passes over) but I never knew Detroit had an El as well.
That’s not an El. It’s a shitty, underused people mover.
It is quite like the DLR rail network in east London, U.K.
The downside being that the DLR doesn't sound nearly as epic (Haven't experienced the newer CAF trains yet, though) but having *two* tracks makes getting to the station you want a *lot* quicker... 😉
😅excelente video y recorrido,CHICAGO...debe ser unas de las ciudades más lindas de Estados Unidos.Hermosa arquitectura.Gracias por el video,tuve la sensación de estar ahí.
Why are there ribbons hanging off the side of that building lol
#RedactedRail: At around 5:45 - 5:55, I couldn't help but notice the old Maple Leaf flapping across the waters. Forgive my geographic ignorance, but was that really a Canadian city looking across Detroit? What's the name of the region?❤
Yes, directly across the Detroit River, you are looking at Windsor, Canada.
Windsor, Ontario is the southernmost city in Canada and the only one that looks north to the USA. Linked by the Ambassador Bridge and by the tunnel that runs under the Detroit River connecting the downtown of both cities. Windsor is also an automotive city with large car factories.
@@BobPagani Thank you so much!
@@fortythreenorth2518 Thank you so much!
@@JoseMorales-lw5nt You're welcome.
I can see Canada!
...And the motors are so loud, it can be heard in Canada too! 🇺🇸🔊🇨🇦🙃
I wonder if the City of Detroit has to pay for exporting noise over the river?... 🔊🏞🛂😋
the ttc chime!!
Detroit looks like a ghost town
what happens if the train gets stuck between stations? Are parachutes provided?
Like many systems, there are emergency doors on the ends of the trains. I'm not aware of them ever having been used though.
Clear image, i bet this is what they call a sunny day in Detroit :)
As a former NYC resident I can only look at this and say why? This looks like it was expensive to build, hard to maintain, in the way of construction and only covers a small area that most New Yorker's would walk even if the thing was available.
Parabéns para o prefeito de Detroit. 👏
I thought that Iceland was empty and bleak and depressing in the winter... Thanks for filming anyway.
Trust me, I'd rather be living in Iceland than the US.
Well this is Detroit within the city limits; 80% of Detroit is in the suburbs in the metropolitan area (about four million) .. much nicer.
Nice ride.
I’ve never visited but, it looks like there are no stations close to where anything with people and community is happening. Most stations in the desolate urban desert areas.
About 6 or 7 am on a Sunday morning?
Hmmm, I guess this train just circles around, meaning the starting point is the ending point?
Nice route, though.
Joe Louis Arena is now demolished. Why still have a station for it?
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are there no passengers?
Due low ridership because nobody takes many years I hrad thus us will be closed fir good because low ridership too weakness
Hello from surinam
Guess this is the IRL version of the imaginary Detroit Subway on “Bob ❤ Ahishola. “
The city looks as empty and desolate as it did when I was there in 1979.
If you cut out the stops the video would only go half the time.
Apart from the comments posted, I thought it odd that there is no sign of construction going on (I know it's Sunday) and no demolition or anything being torn down. Very little signage too, except for GM. Leap Day, 2024. St. Joseph, MO, USA.
Занятно, спасибо.
Dwell times are absolutely horrific even when played at 1.5x speed.
Is it me or all the stations are too close together? 😑
Where are all the people? The city looks like a ghost town.
I was just thinking the same thing. Very few cars NO pedestrians , where are the people ?
Soylent Green is people.@@raymondstuart1899
Detroit is a ghost town
it's probably because of the rain.
@@lolicon4 😅
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Such a big and abandoned city...
13:27 - "The next station is (crickets)."
Ok, that's a sub! 👍
Who's responsible for the lighting in the tunnel? It looked like most were burnt out.
How long has Times Square been closed? 13:25
(ding) "The Next sTatiON Is ... ... "
Amei lindo
Nice ride 😊
I am glad that Cleveland rejected this in the 70's. I think it works for the way Detroit's downtown is spread out. Would not look good in a city with a compact skyscraper density.
Оператору огромное спасибо!Мне понравилось!
8:08 minutes, person walking near street lamps..
How can one live in a city with almost no green. I mean trees, flowers, grass fields, parks etc.
Save Detroit!!!!
I would have filmed it on a sunny weekday. It might make the city look less like a has been and very nearly a ghost town and maybe a city with a bit of life. 🏳🌈
Maybe that was the intention!
First January, morning...
3:43 minutes for wall art..
I ❤ detroit😊
LOL!
To be called a people mover you need some people. None seen yet…
There are few car.
Next station is...Windsor, Canada
где все?
No greenery just concrete jungle, very depressing.
If there's some way to keep the riff-raff away from those who need to ride, it might work. But that'll be difficult to do with those who contribute little to nothing but consider themselves to be "entitled".
What exactly do you contribute?
Is this real or a simulation?
So much potential for this city, the government, get your head out your arse and get this place livable
Those streets don’t look good and have very few cars on them! What a waste of taxpayer money…too bad people don’t use them to drive their cars on!🙄
A little Chicago in Detroit
I'm confused, why was this , made? Why didn't Detroit ever build a full fledged subway?
This was a pet project of Detroit Mayor Coleman Young. Had a lot of opposition, and had the nickname "Coleman's Train." Opened in 1987. I loved riding it in those early years!!
This was supposed to be part of a larger system. UrbanDox did a video mentioning this.
I like to conplain about Melbourne's rail. Then there's this