"They gonna make a crappy game, people have every right to exploit it. People paid their hard earned money for it." I like this guy. This is a good guy.
Can also apply to sandbox/open world games! It's why Gmod, Sims, Minecraft, and even Animal Crossing have huge modding communities (even if Nintendo doesn't like modding in Animal Crossing).
@Jude Durman if you see comments like that remember where they are. Someone is going around hacking the accounts and linking hentai as replies on them. It's nice to see the scammers being scammed
Remember the Mr Handy that was suppose to be in the game when it was released but they "forgot to put it in" and then they released it later but NOW you had to pay extra for something that was suppose to be included in the games price. Also the Fallout First that had tons of bugs and required a monthly subscription
Seeing the mounting horror and disgust growing on the face of someone who has never heard about the Fallout 76 fuster cluck is absolutely ~glorious~ to behold XD It's almost enough to make the whole debacle worth it . . almost -_-
The fact that there were no firings and or more severe consequences for these greedy, somewhat illegal, and fraudulent actions and etc. is what crushes me,
"Are developers still doing this to people!?" In answer, a quote from what was hinted to be the next big game in another Dev's major franchise but turned out to be a pay to win phone game... "Don't you all have phones?" Yes, and in the years since that convention you have not gotten a single solitary penny from me.
And the worst thing about that is that, it was mostly a shitshow from purely a marketing perspective, they tried to seriously market a mobile game to a nearly pure bred PC fanbase and acted as if we had to be super excited for it, ostensibly talking to us like we are children. If Diablo immortal was just treated as fun little thing in the western market, then people wouldn't really have given a shit, we all knew at the time of the diablo immortal announcement that D4 was in the making, as it had been teased some years prior.
the "don't you all have phones?"-moment made me angry, because i was still using an old nokia and just got a new pc. also, it was clear that this was only to exploit diehard fans who would throw money at anything in the onlineshop. they did it with WoW too. hey, buy the game, buy the extensions, pay us so you can play...but if you want some really cool stuff without grinding, give us even more money! even though the support for the game, the game itself and the people playing it became worse the more time got by. actually, ever since blizz merged with activision, shit became less consumerfriendly and every game started to become more shitty everyday.
The Fallout series had immense respect and trust among gamers. Previous games had been groundbreaking and immersive, setting the bar of storytelling. For Bethesda to do so many things wrong at once, after it's Fallout and Elder Scrolls franchises had been the gold standard in games, was a stab in the back to players who had been loyal fans for literal decades.
An honest mistake or oversight could have been forgiven, even several of them. Bethesda's response and mismanagement of every mistake down the list was a real eye-opener for me about Bethesda's priorities and goals. My heart goes out to all floor-level coders, designers, and any Team Leads who are just trying to make a great game and build a vision. It's all the people who hold the reigns of these companies that I'm infuriated and frustrated with.
They had the excuse of "Well, these games are massive, and the only ones of their style. Bugs are inherent to games this big" And then Outer Worlds showed up after the fiasco and pantsed them further by saying "just fix the bugs wtf is wrong with you"
@Inksday even so the previous games, despite being buggy didnt need 50gb day 1 patches or had 3 hour long videos showing off all the bugs fallout 4 was buggy yeah, but compared to 76 it looked like a masterpiece of coding
@@mrroboshadow if at this time you go and buy fallout new vegas on steam and you do not download any mod or unofficial patch the game is unplayable not in the sense of mechanics or graphics in the sense that it doesn't stop crashing I think that says it all fallout 76 is just the perfect example of what bethesda is without a community patching its games
By the way, a thing the Internet historian forgot about the the whole "pre-order special bundle" fiasco (the one with the canvas bag + helmet and other things) was that the helmet it shipped with was...well..bad. And I mean bad. Some had mold inside of them, some had a foul stench that reeked for days, some were faulty and dinged up. Hell, I've read reports that people even found cockroaches inside them...or should I say radroaches? Either way, same shit different story. But it doesn't end there. The pay to win feature mentioned was a tool that you could use in game that allowed you to fix (if I remember correctly) your robot companions (that fight with with you) and give them full health. This gave players who bought it an edge over those who didn't as the robots could be pretty overpowered. And the repair kits used to cost $5...each...for one use...yep. One. Fucking. Use.
Then there was that 1 exploit that let you steal other players inventory, and that one time the accidently released a new patch that removed bug fixes. The shit storm around the game, was way more fun than the game itself.
Actually, this isn't entirely accurate. The helmet that had the mold was a different model, made by Gamestop, not by Bethesda themselves. But that doesn't make it any less terrible
@@KalinaHitanaVTuber Thanks for telling me, I wasn't entirely certainly about the helmet situation to be honest but yeah, does not make it any less terrible as you said.
"May the ghost of Al Capone haunt the people who made that fricken rum." Ladies and Gentlemen of the internet, I have found my new favorite line from a TH-cam video!
the best part is that isn't even the end of the story, they kept continually fucking up after this video was made; my favourite was that they finally added NPC's to the game (which should have been in from the start), and some of the NPC's roam around and do things to seem more immersive, like sleeping, using things in the environment, and looting corpses....except the last one became an issue BECAUSE THE NPC's STARTED LOOTING PLAYER CORPSES; did you have a favourite gun that took you hours to get and you've put resources into it? not anymore, because an NPC just looted your corpse when you died (probably because of some bug or another), and now that item is gone forever, because the NPC's don't actually carry the things they loot to prevent players from just killing every NPC they saw and treating them as walking treasure chests, they just delete whatever they loot.
yeah, the business that was hired to build the helmet was infested with black mold so it started to grow on the neck cloth and roaches just simply like to hide in boxes...
They were not. The moldy helmets were a different product, released by Gamestop. Bugfesta did a lot of bad things, but let's not pin bad things OTHERS did in them. There's plenty enough true things to be angry about.
Everything in this video is absolutely true. I was one of the many unfortunate individuals that pre-ordered the game and I was never given a refund. I had played the closed-beta leading up to the official launch of the game. I'd experience many bugs while playing the beta, but the one I remembered the most was the invisible and invincible enemy that chased me until I died. It was a really funny experience looking back, but it did piss me off at the time. Everyone who played the beta thought they would fix many of the issues and bugs before the official launch of the game. They fixed a few lol. One thing that really pissed me off as a player was the insane and stupid difficulty of acquiring nuke codes to use the nuke in a multiplayer server. This feature of the game got people excited. The concept was a player could nuke part of the map to kill random players for fun and then go to the nuked site to kill legendary monster spawns to get better loot. A very interesting concept, but acquiring the nuke codes was fucking annoying. As a player, you had to get eight silo codes for the same silo launch site before the silo codes disappeared from your inventory after the WEEKLY reset. (By the way, there were three silo launch sites meaning there were 24 codes in total.) After assembling the infinity codes you also had ONE attempt to solve a puzzle by decrypting them and if you failed to solve the launch code after gathering all of the silo codes they wiped and disappeared from your inventory. There was even more dumb fuckery you had to go through just to nuke an area for a couple of hours, but I won't get into that. My friends and I tried this, but it takes many hours to do this and after two months we got uninterested in the game and stopped playing altogether. Other more dedicated players were able to do this and I salute them. Fallout 76 is the sole reason why I never pre-order a game anymore and wait for the reviews before I invest my money. I still get PTSD from this game.
The thing about Todd is that , at this point, he isn't really "in charge" of anything. He has admitted in multiple interviews that, even tho he's listed as the creative director for a ton of projects, he no longer works on a single project at a time but is mandated to go from division to division and checking up on games while they're in developement. Hell, he has admitted to not having even programmed a single line of code since Oblivion(which came out in the mid 2000's) due to this. You could even make the argument that Oblivion was the last game where Todd was REALLY in charge of everything And obviously, the quality of Bethesda's games suffers because of this. They have no direction and the people who have the experience are being dragged around the company for no reason Kepp in mind, however, this doesn't absolve Todd of other bad things he's done. Like lying about Fallout 3's endings and the entirety of 76. Or, arguibly even more agregiously, the infamous Oblivion horse armor DLC which is arguibly the first instance of microtransactions in a video game ever
Everything about this is hillarious. I mean, 76 is not the first and was certainly not the last totally underwhelming and buggy game. But how can you fuck up everything about a product, not only the game itself, but literally EVERYTHING? Customer service, subscription model, the refund policy and merchandise and on and on and on. That is a hard pill to swallow as a bethesda fan. Watching this video gave me flashbacks. And I am honestly concerned about the other series.
It was funny, but I think there was a misunderstanding behind the terrible nature of the Nuka Dark situation. Lets face it, the majority of people didn't buy this for the rum itself, and I'm more than certain a lot of people were expecting the rum itself to be garbage. The real reason anyone pre-ordered this thing was because they thought the bottle was gonna be glass, as there are plenty of people out there who collect unique glass bottles
Some of the other things that I remember was that they came out with a cosplay Fallout helmet you could buy but they had to do a mass recall due to mold issues with the materials used in it. Another was a “Mr. Handy” robot that would clean your base for you, they admitted that it was SUPPOSE to be included in the game for free when it was released but they “FORGOT” to put it in. So months later they put it into the game but in their Atomic Shop at a price, so something that was suppose to be in the game for free you would now have to pay extra for, and don’t forget that this game was sold at full price of $60 begin with. They also started to ask the players for suggestions on things that would make the game better and I remember one being a fridge so that food didn’t expire as fast and another being repair kits because armor was breaking faster. So Bathesda said thank you so much for these suggestions and they went and made some of the items in the game.......However, these items were then put in the Atomic Shop at an additional price. Lastly there was a group of data miners I believe and they made an online map of the game and listed where you could find everything which took lots and lots of time and effort. During this time people were hacking the game or using glitches non stop like killing people from across the map. So they heard about a bug/glitch and the group used the glitch over and over to figure out how it was done. They took all the info and reported it to Bethesda showing where and how this glitch was being done, Bethesda’s response, permanently ban their accounts for excessive exploitation of a glitch. Bethesda also refused to explain or email them back on what happened while the actual guy that was using this glitch to harm others was given a 1-3day ban only.
*The game in general being a mess* "Oh that sucks, who would release this? *The rum being bad* "DON'T FUCK WITH THE RUM!!! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!" That was my favorite part of this video.
Just a warning, if you go down the hole searching into all of 76's issues, this is just the beginning... there was so much more (no spoilers) there has been alot of fun videos made documenting everything
That video didn't even cover the Fallout 76 class war. Where they offered a $100 yearly subscription for people to have private servers and infinite storage capacity. Except they weren't private, people still found their way in and subsequently started a class war between the people who paid for this and those who didn't. And also the storage box wasn't infinite, it deleted your stuff
Bethesda got famous from Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Fallout 1 and 2. So when they released Oblivion, there was a huge hype. The game was good, but far inferior to Morrowind. At least according to everyone who played Morrowind. Then they released Skyrim, which was way better than Oblivion, but still inferior to Morrowind. At least according to the fans who played Morrowind. Its funny how Morrowind is always the best RPG ever made, according to the fans who played Morrowind. Through the modding community, this game is still alive and well even today. According to Todd Howard, "working on Morrowind was the heaviest burden of his life" as if the rsult wasn't worth the effort. As far as the Fallout-series are concerned, Fallout 1 and 2 are still fan-favorites, along with New Vegas. Wonder why, lol. They still use the same old re-patched game engine they have since Morrowind, so the modding community are well used to patching out the same bugs on every new Bethesda release over the years. Lately though, Bethesda seems to have had an interest in monetising modding on their games. Along with the complete destruction of their brand from fallout76, that's the nail in the coffin for me. If the modding-community dies, then so does my interest in playing their games. Sad, really...
Well, Fallout 1 and 2 weren't from Bethesda - they were from Black Isle Studios, which closed down due to bankruptcy and then reborn as Obsidian. Bethesda bought the Fallout IP and develop Fallout 3 and the following Fallout titles (other than New Vegas, which was developed by Obsidian and published by Bethesda).
@@OutdatedLeon ah, my bad then. Explains alot when I think about it, really.. In Morrowind you can very easily find differences in how various quests are written based on who wrote them, with approach to storytelling. Tod Howard wrote the start of the Imperial Legion line, if im not mistaken. Its notably more linear than the rest.
Honestly I love the fact that you guys being out different people for these reacts. The diverse reactions is really interesting to look at and reactions are always hilarious and genuinely interesting to hear. This reaction was very hilarious the whole way through. This guy has gotta be a part of way more reactions 😂
His face has been my reaction just stretched over the past couple years to last week when I played ESO for the first time and realized Bethesda could actually do better xD
The thing is fans would have been completely fine with the absurd number of glitches, and lack of features, if the modding community was given the same support as they did in previous games. They probably would have forgiven all the deceptive marketing. All the other stuff was akin to the straw that broke the camel's back, except the straw was a 20 ton block of Cement, and they decided to stack several dozen of the on the camel's carcass. Had they done this like Fallout 4 or Skyrim people would have just waited for the absolutely insane modding community to fix everything in roughly 6-8 months, but no Bethesda had to go go full EA/Acti-Bliz, and ruin what flimsy good reputation they had undeservedly acquired.
Sadly many big-name companies are bad in some way, of course Bethesda known as the worse. Rockstar is a bit similar, and has made many phenomenal games but they seem very incompetent and don't quite listen to their fans. Luckily they aren't as bad, and could still make a comeback, but eh. Many dislike them because of GTA Online, and only releasing one game the past 7 years, although that was an incredible game, RDR2. But still.
Well the gta online is obvious..."lets fucking release 2 million paid dlcs for a multiplayer games thats only fun with friends and the only thing unique bout it is the heists,but not update the single mode one bit"
It is not even that hard to make canvas fabric that you can then use to make sturdy and even waterproof cloth great for outdoors like coats, pants or even bags.
No Man's Sky managed to recover completely from the disaster, cause they went FULL ON WORK MODE. Somehow, and they pulled the game forward to be ACTUALLY good, exceptionally good even, maybe. If there are other companies SCREWING their brand name? Yes, yes there are. There is Blizzard, really loved company, one of their franchises, the Diablo Series, they had a convention when they promised to show "The Future" of said franchise after years of silence about it. Considering every single Diablo fan is a Hardcore PC Gamer, pretty much exclusively, they decided, because everyone that was not a Hardcore PC gamer loved Mobile Games (somehow), it would be a great idea to launch the next title as a Mobile Exclusive Paid to win game.... And It was another disaster, they got Booed, in their own convention (that was exclusive to their company), "Luckily" they remained SILENT since that, just a couple of months ago they mentioned that game again in a stream. Funny enough, when their costumers asked if there was going to a PC game of Diablo, because thats what the costumers cared about, they said No, no plans for that, The booed happened, and the developers asked "Dont you guys have PHONES?!?!?!?".. So yeah, it went horrible.
Another thing to add onto the disaster here, turns out the power armor edition helmet thing had dangerous MOLD inside of it so they had to be recalled :)
22:40 You know what I think? Bethesda saw how people were making better bottles, especially the ones on Etsy. So they thought about taking the code from one of the bottles from Etsy and said “I’ll STEAL it!” *”NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!”*
Btw No man's Sky is an amazing success. They've fullfilled all their promises up too and including ever update and expansion being free. They've added all promised features into the game, and they're now adding more content..
Aside from being a huge Internet Historian fan, this is the second video seen from you guys and like your reactions. They are not all dramatic and "youtube-ish", but seem genuine, which is rather nice.
It just works, it just works Little lies, stunning shows People buy, money flows, it just works It just works, it just works Overpriced open worlds Earnings rise, take my word It just works
Todd Howard has said something to the effect of how it doesn't matter if the game is released unfinished because they can just release the rest of the game via patches and people will still buy them. The tragic thing here is that he's right. No matter what people will still buy these games and just whale out the micro transaction
How todd wasn’t fired and or Bethesda didn’t suffer even more for this in terms of stock drop and or mass firings for the people responsible for this is unbelievable
I think it is because it was profitable. The atom shop was the real money maker, it was a quick cash grab with a cheap product that was riding on the coat tails of better products, and it likely helped in selling their brand to investors who were utterly unscrupulous. So even though it was a PR nightmare it actually was a net positive in their eyes. The question is whether they try this nonsense with their next major release or play it straight to buy back some credibility.
I didn’t know there were those who knew anything about Fallout who were out of the loop about this lol. But I love your reactions too. The increasing horror and disbelief, man.
No Man's sky video is great. It's the opposite story of this one about Fallout 76. It really makes you feel for Hello Games by the end, and even inspired me to buy the game. (which I do enjoy playing)
i have really no idea how they made a good backpack.. and then bad one.. or how do you made a good glass.. and then a bad one.. it feels like they straigh up didnt care at all.. :D (from the very beggining) lol
Another thing was that Fallout 4 and Skyrim have had TONS of Mods like making the dragons look like Thomas the Train or having some companions dressed like Woody and Buzz Lightyear. So people asked if 76 would allow Mods, during the the lead up to release Bethesda repeatedly said that they loved Mods and assured people that the game was Built with modding in mind. Then the release came and if I remember correctly they started to ban players left and right for using mods claiming that it broke terms of service and created an unfair player experiance because this was a game where you were on the same map as random other players and your mods were affecting their game too.
Don't forget the fact that they were taking an unstable, out of date game engine that was tailored for role-playing games that are generally single player experiences like previous Fallout and trying to retrofit it so it's now suddenly a persistent world of massively multiplayer online content.
What's worse is they have the Elder Scrolls Online engine that was already made for that purpose. They had experience porting content form the old engine to the new one.
I feel bad for the fallout community going through this. I just stopped pre ordering stuff all together and am not purchasing pre order bonuses. Etsy has people that make cool stuff from the things they fan about and like internet historian said, they give a shit. Great Reaction, I was shocked when I watched it myself. I hope you see the no man sky one. They turned around and the game is pretty fun now.
Bugs and missing features in game from small company: He lied, he's clearly the bad guy, case closed Bugs, bugs, missing features, and bugs in a Bethesda game: confusion
Oh oh oh, ANOTHER one was that the game had NO NPC’s, all the missions and such were from holo tapes. Months later they announced they would introduce NPCs into the game with a DLC. However instead they came out with a “Fallout First Membership” which was a one year membership that would cost $100 and let you have Private Servers. People were obviously furious about this since they thought private servers should be free and not cost more money. Then to the surprise of no one the private servers were full of bugs and glitches too, I believe people were able to log onto peoples “private” servers, kill them, loot everything they owned, and then switch to another server.
He didn't even mention that the "essay" thing was specially asking people to *Admit that they used third party software to cheat*. It was trying to pretend like ALL exploiters were breaking their perfectly functional game with gameshark software
From Shock, To Disbelief, to disgust, to numb... All that caught on this poor guys face during the vid... XD Highlight quote: "...This was released to the Public...?"
Honestly I showed this to my bosses (we are not in videos games just a general company making products), they were shocked. They were like everything single thing was WRONG. They messed up everything single thing about this game, the marketing, the launch, the merchandise, everything was a mess. It’s almost legendary how they screwed up. Bethesda should be ashamed
one more thing not covered in this video? the power armour helmet is a breeding ground for black mold in the initial versions. my local gamestop assures me they fixed it, but... be carefull everyone
Most brands I have seen recently don’t care about their consumers. I have even seen them saying that it was a *bad thing* to give people what they want!
Bethesda Fallout games and Todd Howard's are a wonderful case study how bad and downright moronic most companies operate. Despite how bad it gets, if you're enough of a scumbag you can always lie and deceive your way out of a hole by blaming everyone else or just playing dumb. Any competent boss would at least put Todd on a leash and find a new spokesperson whose reputation is not a complete joke by now if not outright fire them if only just as a scapegoat.
He didn’t even get to talk about Fallout 1st; the annual $100 subscription that was just as buggy. The moldy power armor helmets. There’s a lot wrong. Also the fact that Bethesda got applause for saying that they would be adding NPCs into an RPG... They also make the Elder Scrolls series so boycott that as well if you’re doing so with Fallout and their new IP Starfield. I think that’s what it was called.
You were so surprised with The no man sky bit that i would encourage you to watch and react to his "The engoodening of no man sky" it's really one of Internet historian masterpieces
Funny thing is that the game had pretty major issues even during the beta. People would literally preload the beta but clicking the 'start up' button would randomly delete 99.9% of the files in the game folder requiring you to redownload it again. Bethesda couldn't even make a functioning launcher they made specifically FOR Fallout 76's release.
"Care About the product" please remember that Fallout New Vegas was created by those who created ofiginal Fallout 1 & 2, and this is why they made sure that the bag didn't suck :)
11:55 oh they did they did they tried to refuse. Todd Howard's request but every time they did it went something like this. Dev : " yeah Todd we need to talk. " Todd : " sure " Dev : " look Todd I'm not going to sugar coat this but the old engine was fallout 4 is not going. Working to literally patch things up with the old engine it's not going to work if you make the world 10 times bigger. " Todd : " so what what are you trying to say. " Dev : " what I'm saying to you is we need to delay to get a better engine for this. Whole massive big world you want to do you want to make it 10 times bigger make the enemies 10 times scarier. But we just can't do that with this current engine that we have. And plus most of your employees have been worked to the Bone to make this game. I say that we delay it until another year or two maybe five at most. To make this game perfect the way you want it. " Todd : " yeah no we're not going to do that we're going to stick to the old engine that we have and. Just work with it from there we're not going to delay we. Promised our customers a fallout 76 online game and we're going to give them fallout 76. " Dev : " Todd the game is going to be shit there's going to be glitches and bugs everywhere even if. We patch up most of the bugs there's just going to be some major bugs and glitches. Glitches that could crash a game and crash the consoles of these players. " Todd : " that's okay we pushed out a game and that's what matters we fed the consumers. What they wanted they wanted a fall out. Game and there we got it even though we totally promised them a elder scrolls game after fallout 4. " Dev : " So basically you want to push out a crappy game just to fulfill some kind of promise. All right Todd people going to be pissed off hey what about those canvas bags that you promise. Should I get to work on that you know call the companies about canvas. " Todd : " no it's fine we'll just give him some neon plastic they won't know the difference. "
The saddest part is that the engine isn't even the problem. The modding community on PC have proven that it can handle current and next gen graphics and is capable of some crazy stuff. The problem is in Bethesda's inability or unwillingness to properly upgrade the damn thing. And its not like an old engine being used for current games is new either Rockstar has been using the EXACT same engine for nearly ten years and every game they release still looks better than the last
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"They gonna make a crappy game, people have every right to exploit it. People paid their hard earned money for it."
I like this guy. This is a good guy.
Can also apply to sandbox/open world games! It's why Gmod, Sims, Minecraft, and even Animal Crossing have huge modding communities (even if Nintendo doesn't like modding in Animal Crossing).
Believe it or not, the game only continued to produce even MORE scandals for another six to twelve months after this video was made
@Jude Durman if you see comments like that remember where they are. Someone is going around hacking the accounts and linking hentai as replies on them. It's nice to see the scammers being scammed
@@Aztesticals pretty sure the person you replied to is also a spam account.
@@Mernom They always come in two's
honestly if anyone falls for it then its just natural selection tbh
@@pantsukami3371 agreed, plus they had malicious intent
Remember the Mr Handy that was suppose to be in the game when it was released but they "forgot to put it in" and then they released it later but NOW you had to pay extra for something that was suppose to be included in the games price.
Also the Fallout First that had tons of bugs and required a monthly subscription
Seeing the mounting horror and disgust growing on the face of someone who has never heard about the Fallout 76 fuster cluck is absolutely ~glorious~ to behold XD
It's almost enough to make the whole debacle worth it
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almost -_-
I mean, it gave us Internet Historian's video. Fair trade I guess....
Lol I love seeing how genuinely angry he is kinda unnecessary though.
The fact that there were no firings and or more severe consequences for these greedy, somewhat illegal, and fraudulent actions and etc. is what crushes me,
Yeah, the sheer bewilderment on his face is pretty priceless.
@@mckenzie.latham91 the gaming industry in a nutshell... Practically any big American company really.
"Are developers still doing this to people!?"
In answer, a quote from what was hinted to be the next big game in another Dev's major franchise but turned out to be a pay to win phone game... "Don't you all have phones?" Yes, and in the years since that convention you have not gotten a single solitary penny from me.
@Esseks "don't you all have phones" convention isn't real, it can't hurt me :'))
And the worst thing about that is that, it was mostly a shitshow from purely a marketing perspective, they tried to seriously market a mobile game to a nearly pure bred PC fanbase and acted as if we had to be super excited for it, ostensibly talking to us like we are children.
If Diablo immortal was just treated as fun little thing in the western market, then people wouldn't really have given a shit, we all knew at the time of the diablo immortal announcement that D4 was in the making, as it had been teased some years prior.
"is this an out of season april fool's joke?"
@@Peowcatpeow I have never given Blizzard a penny for anything ever. And it shall stay that way.
the "don't you all have phones?"-moment made me angry, because i was still using an old nokia and just got a new pc. also, it was clear that this was only to exploit diehard fans who would throw money at anything in the onlineshop. they did it with WoW too. hey, buy the game, buy the extensions, pay us so you can play...but if you want some really cool stuff without grinding, give us even more money! even though the support for the game, the game itself and the people playing it became worse the more time got by.
actually, ever since blizz merged with activision, shit became less consumerfriendly and every game started to become more shitty everyday.
The Fallout series had immense respect and trust among gamers. Previous games had been groundbreaking and immersive, setting the bar of storytelling. For Bethesda to do so many things wrong at once, after it's Fallout and Elder Scrolls franchises had been the gold standard in games, was a stab in the back to players who had been loyal fans for literal decades.
An honest mistake or oversight could have been forgiven, even several of them. Bethesda's response and mismanagement of every mistake down the list was a real eye-opener for me about Bethesda's priorities and goals. My heart goes out to all floor-level coders, designers, and any Team Leads who are just trying to make a great game and build a vision. It's all the people who hold the reigns of these companies that I'm infuriated and frustrated with.
Emphasis on "had".
They had the excuse of "Well, these games are massive, and the only ones of their style. Bugs are inherent to games this big"
And then Outer Worlds showed up after the fiasco and pantsed them further by saying "just fix the bugs wtf is wrong with you"
@Inksday even so the previous games, despite being buggy didnt need 50gb day 1 patches or had 3 hour long videos showing off all the bugs
fallout 4 was buggy yeah, but compared to 76 it looked like a masterpiece of coding
@@mrroboshadow if at this time you go and buy fallout new vegas on steam and you do not download any mod or unofficial patch the game is unplayable
not in the sense of mechanics or graphics
in the sense that it doesn't stop crashing
I think that says it all
fallout 76 is just the perfect example of what bethesda is without a community patching its games
By the way, a thing the Internet historian forgot about the the whole "pre-order special bundle" fiasco (the one with the canvas bag + helmet and other things) was that the helmet it shipped with was...well..bad. And I mean bad. Some had mold inside of them, some had a foul stench that reeked for days, some were faulty and dinged up. Hell, I've read reports that people even found cockroaches inside them...or should I say radroaches? Either way, same shit different story.
But it doesn't end there. The pay to win feature mentioned was a tool that you could use in game that allowed you to fix (if I remember correctly) your robot companions (that fight with with you) and give them full health. This gave players who bought it an edge over those who didn't as the robots could be pretty overpowered. And the repair kits used to cost $5...each...for one use...yep. One. Fucking. Use.
Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, the AAA game industry always finds a way to lower the bar.
To be fair, that was found after this video was released.
Then there was that 1 exploit that let you steal other players inventory, and that one time the accidently released a new patch that removed bug fixes. The shit storm around the game, was way more fun than the game itself.
Actually, this isn't entirely accurate. The helmet that had the mold was a different model, made by Gamestop, not by Bethesda themselves. But that doesn't make it any less terrible
@@KalinaHitanaVTuber Thanks for telling me, I wasn't entirely certainly about the helmet situation to be honest but yeah, does not make it any less terrible as you said.
"May the ghost of Al Capone haunt the people who made that fricken rum." Ladies and Gentlemen of the internet, I have found my new favorite line from a TH-cam video!
I understood alcohol. But your sounds better
Internet Historian is pure gold. And this video is classic.
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the best part is that isn't even the end of the story, they kept continually fucking up after this video was made; my favourite was that they finally added NPC's to the game (which should have been in from the start), and some of the NPC's roam around and do things to seem more immersive, like sleeping, using things in the environment, and looting corpses....except the last one became an issue BECAUSE THE NPC's STARTED LOOTING PLAYER CORPSES; did you have a favourite gun that took you hours to get and you've put resources into it? not anymore, because an NPC just looted your corpse when you died (probably because of some bug or another), and now that item is gone forever, because the NPC's don't actually carry the things they loot to prevent players from just killing every NPC they saw and treating them as walking treasure chests, they just delete whatever they loot.
Definitely need to watch the engoodening of no man's sky next its a great follow up video
I got the game a year after its release anf it is like night and day from then to now
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"Hello I am real video gamer I am aware of Fallout 4" - Chicago Reacts
This made me laugh.
or the fact he didn't know about this because he plays video games, man the nuclear burn on that
Took him less than a second to realize the drink was gonna be awful XD
watching a man who has nothing to do with gaming observe this is a literal gem
"Talk about being cheap and not caring."
_Learns it cost 2x as much_
"Why'd you spend money on the plastic one?!"
Exactly!
I still can't tell if that was supposed to be some sort of weird flex or not. Why not just make the fucking glass bottle?
One thing not mentioned in the video. But the Helmet that came with the special edition, was actually poisonous.
And allegedly also ridden with roaches, very immersive :))
yeah, the business that was hired to build the helmet was infested with black mold so it started to grow on the neck cloth and roaches just simply like to hide in boxes...
@@andrewhdemarest consoomer?
They were not.
The moldy helmets were a different product, released by Gamestop.
Bugfesta did a lot of bad things, but let's not pin bad things OTHERS did in them. There's plenty enough true things to be angry about.
Only the gamestop ones. Thought it was asbestos for some reason but seeing the black mold comment is jogging my memory.
Everything in this video is absolutely true. I was one of the many unfortunate individuals that pre-ordered the game and I was never given a refund. I had played the closed-beta leading up to the official launch of the game. I'd experience many bugs while playing the beta, but the one I remembered the most was the invisible and invincible enemy that chased me until I died. It was a really funny experience looking back, but it did piss me off at the time. Everyone who played the beta thought they would fix many of the issues and bugs before the official launch of the game. They fixed a few lol.
One thing that really pissed me off as a player was the insane and stupid difficulty of acquiring nuke codes to use the nuke in a multiplayer server. This feature of the game got people excited. The concept was a player could nuke part of the map to kill random players for fun and then go to the nuked site to kill legendary monster spawns to get better loot. A very interesting concept, but acquiring the nuke codes was fucking annoying. As a player, you had to get eight silo codes for the same silo launch site before the silo codes disappeared from your inventory after the WEEKLY reset. (By the way, there were three silo launch sites meaning there were 24 codes in total.) After assembling the infinity codes you also had ONE attempt to solve a puzzle by decrypting them and if you failed to solve the launch code after gathering all of the silo codes they wiped and disappeared from your inventory. There was even more dumb fuckery you had to go through just to nuke an area for a couple of hours, but I won't get into that. My friends and I tried this, but it takes many hours to do this and after two months we got uninterested in the game and stopped playing altogether. Other more dedicated players were able to do this and I salute them.
Fallout 76 is the sole reason why I never pre-order a game anymore and wait for the reviews before I invest my money. I still get PTSD from this game.
The thing about Todd is that , at this point, he isn't really "in charge" of anything.
He has admitted in multiple interviews that, even tho he's listed as the creative director for a ton of projects, he no longer works on a single project at a time but is mandated to go from division to division and checking up on games while they're in developement.
Hell, he has admitted to not having even programmed a single line of code since Oblivion(which came out in the mid 2000's) due to this. You could even make the argument that Oblivion was the last game where Todd was REALLY in charge of everything
And obviously, the quality of Bethesda's games suffers because of this. They have no direction and the people who have the experience are being dragged around the company for no reason
Kepp in mind, however, this doesn't absolve Todd of other bad things he's done.
Like lying about Fallout 3's endings and the entirety of 76.
Or, arguibly even more agregiously, the infamous Oblivion horse armor DLC which is arguibly the first instance of microtransactions in a video game ever
Welcome to the new gaming industry. It's all about making money instead of creating memorable experiences.
you got to watch his no mans sky video a redemption story EA (and Bethesda)could learn a lot from.
The nuka dark part of this was hillarious
Don’t forget the hazardous to wear fallout 76 helmet
Everything about this is hillarious. I mean, 76 is not the first and was certainly not the last totally underwhelming and buggy game. But how can you fuck up everything about a product, not only the game itself, but literally EVERYTHING? Customer service, subscription model, the refund policy and merchandise and on and on and on. That is a hard pill to swallow as a bethesda fan. Watching this video gave me flashbacks. And I am honestly concerned about the other series.
@@M3cronom it’s really worrying what could become of the other franchises
It was funny, but I think there was a misunderstanding behind the terrible nature of the Nuka Dark situation. Lets face it, the majority of people didn't buy this for the rum itself, and I'm more than certain a lot of people were expecting the rum itself to be garbage. The real reason anyone pre-ordered this thing was because they thought the bottle was gonna be glass, as there are plenty of people out there who collect unique glass bottles
@@KalinaHitanaVTuber i mean, it was really mainly for the bottle itself
Being a collectors item to say the least
Some of the other things that I remember was that they came out with a cosplay Fallout helmet you could buy but they had to do a mass recall due to mold issues with the materials used in it.
Another was a “Mr. Handy” robot that would clean your base for you, they admitted that it was SUPPOSE to be included in the game for free when it was released but they “FORGOT” to put it in. So months later they put it into the game but in their Atomic Shop at a price, so something that was suppose to be in the game for free you would now have to pay extra for, and don’t forget that this game was sold at full price of $60 begin with.
They also started to ask the players for suggestions on things that would make the game better and I remember one being a fridge so that food didn’t expire as fast and another being repair kits because armor was breaking faster. So Bathesda said thank you so much for these suggestions and they went and made some of the items in the game.......However, these items were then put in the Atomic Shop at an additional price.
Lastly there was a group of data miners I believe and they made an online map of the game and listed where you could find everything which took lots and lots of time and effort. During this time people were hacking the game or using glitches non stop like killing people from across the map. So they heard about a bug/glitch and the group used the glitch over and over to figure out how it was done. They took all the info and reported it to Bethesda showing where and how this glitch was being done, Bethesda’s response, permanently ban their accounts for excessive exploitation of a glitch. Bethesda also refused to explain or email them back on what happened while the actual guy that was using this glitch to harm others was given a 1-3day ban only.
Well now you need to watch his vid The engoodening of no mans sky
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*The game in general being a mess* "Oh that sucks, who would release this?
*The rum being bad* "DON'T FUCK WITH THE RUM!!! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!"
That was my favorite part of this video.
You DEFINITELY have to watch Internet Historian's video on No Man's Sky, it's my favorite video on his channel
The helmet that came with the power armor edition also had to be recalled because of mold issues
no that was a seperate helmet
Yes! You've gotta react to the engoodening of no man's sky, now it's a really good game.
Just a warning, if you go down the hole searching into all of 76's issues, this is just the beginning... there was so much more (no spoilers) there has been alot of fun videos made documenting everything
As they say, it's funner to watch the shit show than it is to actually play the game.
That video didn't even cover the Fallout 76 class war. Where they offered a $100 yearly subscription for people to have private servers and infinite storage capacity. Except they weren't private, people still found their way in and subsequently started a class war between the people who paid for this and those who didn't. And also the storage box wasn't infinite, it deleted your stuff
Is Fallout 76 better now?
@@ceu160193 No no no lol
In my opinion it is a great game, I know at the begining it was really bad and stopped playing, but know I enjoy the game.
@@ceu160193 Yes it is 100x better than at the begining
Bethesda got famous from Daggerfall, Morrowind, and Fallout 1 and 2.
So when they released Oblivion, there was a huge hype. The game was good, but far inferior to Morrowind. At least according to everyone who played Morrowind.
Then they released Skyrim, which was way better than Oblivion, but still inferior to Morrowind. At least according to the fans who played Morrowind.
Its funny how Morrowind is always the best RPG ever made, according to the fans who played Morrowind. Through the modding community, this game is still alive and well even today. According to Todd Howard, "working on Morrowind was the heaviest burden of his life" as if the rsult wasn't worth the effort.
As far as the Fallout-series are concerned, Fallout 1 and 2 are still fan-favorites, along with New Vegas. Wonder why, lol.
They still use the same old re-patched game engine they have since Morrowind, so the modding community are well used to patching out the same bugs on every new Bethesda release over the years.
Lately though, Bethesda seems to have had an interest in monetising modding on their games. Along with the complete destruction of their brand from fallout76, that's the nail in the coffin for me. If the modding-community dies, then so does my interest in playing their games.
Sad, really...
Well, Fallout 1 and 2 weren't from Bethesda - they were from Black Isle Studios, which closed down due to bankruptcy and then reborn as Obsidian.
Bethesda bought the Fallout IP and develop Fallout 3 and the following Fallout titles (other than New Vegas, which was developed by Obsidian and published by Bethesda).
@@OutdatedLeon ah, my bad then. Explains alot when I think about it, really..
In Morrowind you can very easily find differences in how various quests are written based on who wrote them, with approach to storytelling.
Tod Howard wrote the start of the Imperial Legion line, if im not mistaken.
Its notably more linear than the rest.
Honestly I love the fact that you guys being out different people for these reacts. The diverse reactions is really interesting to look at and reactions are always hilarious and genuinely interesting to hear. This reaction was very hilarious the whole way through. This guy has gotta be a part of way more reactions 😂
His face has been my reaction just stretched over the past couple years to last week when I played ESO for the first time and realized Bethesda could actually do better xD
The thing is fans would have been completely fine with the absurd number of glitches, and lack of features, if the modding community was given the same support as they did in previous games. They probably would have forgiven all the deceptive marketing. All the other stuff was akin to the straw that broke the camel's back, except the straw was a 20 ton block of Cement, and they decided to stack several dozen of the on the camel's carcass.
Had they done this like Fallout 4 or Skyrim people would have just waited for the absolutely insane modding community to fix everything in roughly 6-8 months, but no Bethesda had to go go full EA/Acti-Bliz, and ruin what flimsy good reputation they had undeservedly acquired.
Man it really feels like even more of a cluster fuck when you tell the whole story all at once like this.
Sadly many big-name companies are bad in some way, of course Bethesda known as the worse. Rockstar is a bit similar, and has made many phenomenal games but they seem very incompetent and don't quite listen to their fans. Luckily they aren't as bad, and could still make a comeback, but eh. Many dislike them because of GTA Online, and only releasing one game the past 7 years, although that was an incredible game, RDR2. But still.
Well the gta online is obvious..."lets fucking release 2 million paid dlcs for a multiplayer games thats only fun with friends and the only thing unique bout it is the heists,but not update the single mode one bit"
Nice reaction mate, i can never refuse a blind reaction to this video.
It is not even that hard to make canvas fabric that you can then use to make sturdy and even waterproof cloth great for outdoors like coats, pants or even bags.
In hindsight this feels like a how to get your company sold for billions by ruining your reputation tutorial.
No Man's Sky managed to recover completely from the disaster, cause they went FULL ON WORK MODE. Somehow, and they pulled the game forward to be ACTUALLY good, exceptionally good even, maybe.
If there are other companies SCREWING their brand name? Yes, yes there are.
There is Blizzard, really loved company, one of their franchises, the Diablo Series, they had a convention when they promised to show "The Future" of said franchise after years of silence about it.
Considering every single Diablo fan is a Hardcore PC Gamer, pretty much exclusively, they decided, because everyone that was not a Hardcore PC gamer loved Mobile Games (somehow), it would be a great idea to launch the next title as a Mobile Exclusive Paid to win game....
And It was another disaster, they got Booed, in their own convention (that was exclusive to their company), "Luckily" they remained SILENT since that, just a couple of months ago they mentioned that game again in a stream.
Funny enough, when their costumers asked if there was going to a PC game of Diablo, because thats what the costumers cared about, they said No, no plans for that, The booed happened, and the developers asked "Dont you guys have PHONES?!?!?!?"..
So yeah, it went horrible.
Another thing to add onto the disaster here, turns out the power armor edition helmet thing had dangerous MOLD inside of it so they had to be recalled :)
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You know what I think?
Bethesda saw how people were making better bottles, especially the ones on Etsy.
So they thought about taking the code from one of the bottles from Etsy and said “I’ll STEAL it!”
*”NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!”*
Internet Historian is one of few things that are so entertaining that watch the same video again is still better then most other videos.
This video is so good that I watch other people watch it. This is one of the best videos on TH-cam.
“That’s not right” that just encapsulated the entire Kerfuffle right there
Btw No man's Sky is an amazing success. They've fullfilled all their promises up too and including ever update and expansion being free. They've added all promised features into the game, and they're now adding more content..
Aside from being a huge Internet Historian fan, this is the second video seen from you guys and like your reactions. They are not all dramatic and "youtube-ish", but seem genuine, which is rather nice.
THIS! THIS IS WHY I WATCH REACTIONS!
Just found your channel, this is the first vid I'm watching, I'm loving it all so far please keep it up!
I'm digging your aesthetics my guy. Very chill, good vibes.
Hey, that's my rum video!! Thanks for the reaction.
It just works, it just works
Little lies, stunning shows
People buy, money flows, it just works
It just works, it just works
Overpriced open worlds
Earnings rise, take my word
It just works
Todd Howard has said something to the effect of how it doesn't matter if the game is released unfinished because they can just release the rest of the game via patches and people will still buy them. The tragic thing here is that he's right. No matter what people will still buy these games and just whale out the micro transaction
And there is so much more now that he can make a 2nd video easily.
3:21 "this was released to the public?"
Yes. Yes it was. Can you believe it?
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"Sometimes foreshadowing of another video is relatively obvious."
How todd wasn’t fired and or Bethesda didn’t suffer even more for this in terms of stock drop and or mass firings for the people responsible for this is unbelievable
A CEO of an American company? Being held accountable? Ahahahahahahaaa...
Wait, you're serious? Let me laugh harder!
I think it is because it was profitable. The atom shop was the real money maker, it was a quick cash grab with a cheap product that was riding on the coat tails of better products, and it likely helped in selling their brand to investors who were utterly unscrupulous. So even though it was a PR nightmare it actually was a net positive in their eyes. The question is whether they try this nonsense with their next major release or play it straight to buy back some credibility.
No idea why this showed up in my feed, but this was interesting.
I didn’t know there were those who knew anything about Fallout who were out of the loop about this lol.
But I love your reactions too. The increasing horror and disbelief, man.
To this day I quote "light wood laminate"
No Man's sky video is great. It's the opposite story of this one about Fallout 76. It really makes you feel for Hello Games by the end, and even inspired me to buy the game. (which I do enjoy playing)
Thank you for the video!
I really enjoyed it :)
i have really no idea how they made a good backpack.. and then bad one.. or how do you made a good glass.. and then a bad one.. it feels like they straigh up didnt care at all.. :D (from the very beggining) lol
76 turned actually decent over the years
Season 4 is coming along with alot of upgrades in April
Somebody was given the curse of invincibility “good” that one got me
Another thing was that Fallout 4 and Skyrim have had TONS of Mods like making the dragons look like Thomas the Train or having some companions dressed like Woody and Buzz Lightyear.
So people asked if 76 would allow Mods, during the the lead up to release Bethesda repeatedly said that they loved Mods and assured people that the game was Built with modding in mind. Then the release came and if I remember correctly they started to ban players left and right for using mods claiming that it broke terms of service and created an unfair player experiance because this was a game where you were on the same map as random other players and your mods were affecting their game too.
Don't forget the fact that they were taking an unstable, out of date game engine that was tailored for role-playing games that are generally single player experiences like previous Fallout and trying to retrofit it so it's now suddenly a persistent world of massively multiplayer online content.
What's worse is they have the Elder Scrolls Online engine that was already made for that purpose. They had experience porting content form the old engine to the new one.
Yeah No Man's Sky is actually quite good now and even has full VR support.
I feel bad for the fallout community going through this. I just stopped pre ordering stuff all together and am not purchasing pre order bonuses. Etsy has people that make cool stuff from the things they fan about and like internet historian said, they give a shit. Great Reaction, I was shocked when I watched it myself. I hope you see the no man sky one. They turned around and the game is pretty fun now.
I love the pace of his video, so well done!
In glad to see another reaction to this video.
They forgot that the helmet had mold issues
Bugs and missing features in game from small company: He lied, he's clearly the bad guy, case closed
Bugs, bugs, missing features, and bugs in a Bethesda game: confusion
Hats down for you mentioning Stargate and Battlestar Galactica. You are cultured!
Oh oh oh, ANOTHER one was that the game had NO NPC’s, all the missions and such were from holo tapes. Months later they announced they would introduce NPCs into the game with a DLC. However instead they came out with a “Fallout First Membership” which was a one year membership that would cost $100 and let you have Private Servers. People were obviously furious about this since they thought private servers should be free and not cost more money. Then to the surprise of no one the private servers were full of bugs and glitches too, I believe people were able to log onto peoples “private” servers, kill them, loot everything they owned, and then switch to another server.
Fun fact weeks later the helms deemed to get molded so they had to refund that too.
Eyyyyy! Hello from a fellow Chicago man. Ya got my sub
Even i was surprised by how bad 76 was, Bethesda literally didn't make 1 good choice for like a full year.
He didn't even mention that the "essay" thing was specially asking people to *Admit that they used third party software to cheat*. It was trying to pretend like ALL exploiters were breaking their perfectly functional game with gameshark software
5:52 that laugh
From Shock, To Disbelief, to disgust, to numb...
All that caught on this poor guys face during the vid... XD
Highlight quote: "...This was released to the Public...?"
Honestly I showed this to my bosses (we are not in videos games just a general company making products), they were shocked. They were like everything single thing was WRONG. They messed up everything single thing about this game, the marketing, the launch, the merchandise, everything was a mess. It’s almost legendary how they screwed up. Bethesda should be ashamed
This is how they do it:
1. Make a Game
2. Release it a Buggy Mess
3. Over time Patch the Game into a more Playable State
one more thing not covered in this video? the power armour helmet is a breeding ground for black mold in the initial versions. my local gamestop assures me they fixed it, but... be carefull everyone
Your comment near the end. Yeah, they fixed No Man's Sky. Its awesome now, and you can tame animals.
Most brands I have seen recently don’t care about their consumers. I have even seen them saying that it was a *bad thing* to give people what they want!
Bethesda Fallout games and Todd Howard's are a wonderful case study how bad and downright moronic most companies operate. Despite how bad it gets, if you're enough of a scumbag you can always lie and deceive your way out of a hole by blaming everyone else or just playing dumb. Any competent boss would at least put Todd on a leash and find a new spokesperson whose reputation is not a complete joke by now if not outright fire them if only just as a scapegoat.
"Who's in charge of this madness"....his name is Todd
He didn’t even get to talk about Fallout 1st; the annual $100 subscription that was just as buggy. The moldy power armor helmets. There’s a lot wrong. Also the fact that Bethesda got applause for saying that they would be adding NPCs into an RPG...
They also make the Elder Scrolls series so boycott that as well if you’re doing so with Fallout and their new IP Starfield. I think that’s what it was called.
You were so surprised with The no man sky bit that i would encourage you to watch and react to his "The engoodening of no man sky" it's really one of Internet historian masterpieces
Nvm! you did! that was fast, i-m gonna watch it now lol
Wow can't believe the entirety of the city Chicago reacted to an Internet Historian video wowza
The rest of the city is in the audience.
Funny thing is that the game had pretty major issues even during the beta. People would literally preload the beta but clicking the 'start up' button would randomly delete 99.9% of the files in the game folder requiring you to redownload it again. Bethesda couldn't even make a functioning launcher they made specifically FOR Fallout 76's release.
I must say the sound-track to that video is a bop (OKAY - 13ounce).
Excellent video. Subbed. :)
"Care About the product" please remember that Fallout New Vegas was created by those who created ofiginal Fallout 1 & 2, and this is why they made sure that the bag didn't suck :)
Please react to the Engoodening of No Man's Sky next!
"tell me the rums crap" PFFFT
Wow , that person in charge of Fallout 76 is , holy crap ! Need to find him !
I gotta say though most of the time it's not the developers fault. It's usually the higher ups for rushing a product that isn't ready yet.
I really love their ads man
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oh they did they did they tried to refuse. Todd Howard's request but every time they did it went something like this.
Dev : " yeah Todd we need to talk. "
Todd : " sure "
Dev : " look Todd I'm not going to sugar coat this but the old engine was fallout 4 is not going. Working to literally patch things up with the old engine it's not going to work if you make the world 10 times bigger. "
Todd : " so what what are you trying to say. "
Dev : " what I'm saying to you is we need to delay to get a better engine for this. Whole massive big world you want to do you want to make it 10 times bigger make the enemies 10 times scarier. But we just can't do that with this current engine that we have.
And plus most of your employees have been worked to the Bone to make this game. I say that we delay it until another year or two maybe five at most. To make this game perfect the way you want it. "
Todd : " yeah no we're not going to do that we're going to stick to the old engine that we have and. Just work with it from there we're not going to delay we. Promised our customers a fallout 76 online game and we're going to give them fallout 76. "
Dev : " Todd the game is going to be shit there's going to be glitches and bugs everywhere even if. We patch up most of the bugs there's just going to be some major bugs and glitches. Glitches that could crash a game and crash the consoles of these players. "
Todd : " that's okay we pushed out a game and that's what matters we fed the consumers. What they wanted they wanted a fall out. Game and there we got it even though we totally promised them a elder scrolls game after fallout 4. "
Dev : " So basically you want to push out a crappy game just to fulfill some kind of promise. All right Todd people going to be pissed off hey what about those canvas bags that you promise.
Should I get to work on that you know call the companies about canvas. "
Todd : " no it's fine we'll just give him some neon plastic they won't know the difference. "
The saddest part is that the engine isn't even the problem. The modding community on PC have proven that it can handle current and next gen graphics and is capable of some crazy stuff.
The problem is in Bethesda's inability or unwillingness to properly upgrade the damn thing.
And its not like an old engine being used for current games is new either
Rockstar has been using the EXACT same engine for nearly ten years and every game they release still looks better than the last
Some random person on destiny 2 got me that game for some reason and even i feel scammed!