The Fall of 76 by Internet Historian | First Time Watching
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With respect to the Dev Room (the secret room with all the items in the game in it):
Every Fallout game has the dev room, but technically speaking, you're not *supposed* to be able to access it. But in previous Fallout games, if you did, it wasn't that big of an issue because the only person affected by it was you. But in Fallout 76, there's an in-game economy, there's PvP balance, and (of course) there's a cash shop that Bethesda wants people to buy from. But if you can just waltz into the dev room and get anything you want, there's little incentive to engage with all of that. Just walk in, get the best gear in the game, and ruin the game for everyone else.
"there's an in-game economy"
Ha,
"there's PvP balance"
Ha,
"a cash shop that Bethesda wants people to buy from"
Ha.
xd nice try Todd.
@@eno88 As busted as it is, it still exists and the dev room being accessible or simply existing just makes it so much worse I imagine.
"ruin the game for everyone else"
...
the game was ruined from the start
It's almost as if Fallout games were meant to be single-player experiences or something ;)
I wish game companies would start making games again, instead of "live services". I remember games. They were fun.
Ah yes, the Fall of 76, or "Bethesda attempts a shallow mimicry of EA."
No, they got it all perfect. Bugs on launch, out-of-the-blue bans, lootboxes and microtransactions, and assuming players will forgive you just because you removed one or two things.
Oh, and we can't forget the Dev Overworking, that's a staple of EA Immitators.
Shame they didnt re-release it a year later as Fallout 77
"IS THAT THE FALL OF '76?!?!" -markiplier
they threw 76 to the noob division because the main guys were focused on starfield
as well as Elder Scroll Online (iirc).
It should never have been made to begin with. No time, no resources, no past infrastructure to build multi-player on.
They had actual games with actual potential to work on, but $$$
@@HenSt-gz7qj Online is made by Zenimax not Bethesda
Later some of these $200 helmets were recalled due to *dangerous levels of mold*.
not those specific helmets, it was one of the pre-order distributor bonus version ( i think....gamestop???) based on a different Power-Armor helmet version.
One of my all time favourite Internet Historian videos!
Wait a minute.
You're not my favorite Canadian TH-camr, Eh!
It’s one of our faves too:)
I love how its a literal half an hour long video and IH *still* isnt able to cover multiple other major problems with the game. Simply incredible that bethesda has even one customer left
I feel bad for the people who are hyped for The Elder Scrolls VI. It's going to be their biggest, most expensive trash fire yet. The only way they could make it worse than they're already going to is if they gave it an always online DRM requirement.
@@WolfHreda I just want to believe....
@@geraldthegoose1685 Believe in the Beyond Skyrim mod teams trying to bring the other regions to life instead of waiting for Bethesda to inevitably ruin it. You'll probably be happier that way, and unlike the other option, the mod team's version will actually be playable.
@@chaosandbunnies8291 Been following Beyond Skyrim for several years now and I am confident that it will be much more fun and interesting than anything bethesda will make.
"Customers who downloaded the game aren't eligible for a refund"
So, everyone i assume? because the physical copies were just a download code
So yes, Bethesda WAS supposed to get into legal trouble over the...everything, but Microsoft partnered with them and paid things to be swept under the rug.
You love them, you hate them.
*CAPITALISM!*
Those fuckers.
Three cheers for unregulated capitalism...
@@clinton8421 Is the third cheer free?
@@LadyDoomsinger No, but it was produced by slave labour so it's dirt cheap.
11:30 Dev rooms are a troubleshooting/testing tool for game developers, players aren't meant to get to them and many games remove them entirely from release copies.
I still think this and The Engoodening of No Man's Sky are the perfect duo. One is the tale of a video game giant who just doesn't seem to care, and fucked up at pretty much every turn. The other is the story of an indie dev making promises it couldn't keep, but buckling down and making it happen in spite of all the negative press.
So, if you want a good video essay on New Vegas, especially with how it compares to Bethesda's Fallout 3, Hbomberguy made a video titled "Fallout New Vegas is Great, And Here's Why" that really illustrates what made Obsidian such a good developer despite their circumstances.
Jacking up the price and doing a fake discount is illegal in the U.S. as well!
no you wouldn't get to the dev room eventually because it is an out of bounds space that the player shouldn't even know of generally
Just as a heads up, the Dev Room is a place for Bethesda to test out different items in the game while the game is being made.
It's not something players are supposed to be able to get to ever through normal play and is only accessible by inputting console commands to teleport in.
In previous games, it wasn't a problem for players to access them because they were single-player games. But in 76, an MMO, getting access destroys the game and makes the cash shop nearly pointless.
But, then, why would they ever want to test items in the live game at all? Why wouldn't they have their own development server for testing?
Oh, wait. They're Bethesda. Never mind.
@@HiddenWindshield Feel like that was a result in pretty much making a game by modding fallout 4. All the things from 4 carried over. Not really a problem if you can plan around that but it's Bethesda.
I wouldn't call 76 an MMO. It's a multiplayer RPG, that's it. MMOs are a completely different scale.
@@haku8135 I wouldn't call Fallout 76 an rpg. You need role-playing elements for that. It is an mmo though. Because it's massively multiplayer and always online.
I'm not gonna lie.. when she said that her head was full of Dr. Who trivia, I legit thought for a moment that she was going to say "My head is full of Dr. Pepper."
There's so much that happened with FO76 after IH's video came out that people are begging him to make a follow-up.
I wish he made this video or another video after the 1st or whatever its called subscription service
11:33 No, it's called a dev room for a reason. It's off-limits to players.
11:36 No a dev room is for the developers only, so they can test any item in the game. If an ordinary player makes it into this room they can bybass having to loot or level up and can just take a high powered item without putting the time into achieving it
Also with NMS, you were right, and plus they are very clearly passionate about their game and all content updates are free. Also, it should be noted, this was their first open world game I believe. Plus procedural generation, and a massive scale. It was lots of inexperienced programmers, still learning, failing, and then continuing to strive to learn and grow, and it shows.
Bethesda just doubled down on the shadiness, while NMS was silent as they reconsidered things and then got to work
And they are still working on it to this day and it's constantly being improved , being made better than they had even promised in the first place.
the biggest part though is that they aren't charging for any of changes, you buy the game once and get everything.
Things wouldn't be nearly so rosey if every expansion was 10-20 dollars.
Also, and possibly most importantly, Hello Games acknowledged their mistakes early and promised to fix them. Bethesda has been playing games of "we never actually said..." and "things unfortunately changed". They've never really accepted responsibility for any part of this fiasco.
@@cmlemmus494 "16 times the detail"
@@ZanathKariashi Oh yeah, and fully implimenting VR support instead of making it a seperate game.
Nah dev rooms for testing. Its not supposed to be accessible to players. Obviously it is anyway.
It's awesome that you were Mercutio, he gets all the best lines
The DEV room is just that, a debug zone only the developers should access to, since it houses every single item, ammo type, armor variant, weapon.... in the entire game.
It should NOT BE ACCESSIBLE EVER to a player and yet it is... cuz WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE XD
Confusing New Vegas and 76 is like confusing steak with literal dogshit because they're both brown and made of proteins
Anyone that has experience with this or at the very least, has seen this video knows there's no coming back from this. With the scams, the contempt for their audience, and all the other problems from one of the biggest game companies out there, how anyone can say "but the game is good now" forgive them for everything else is ridiculous.
4:46 that 3 hour long video of the bugs is only the first video... of 6 last time I checked...
My two favorite videos by Internet Historian, happy you got to see them :) I'ma go watch the one on No Man's Sky because I was one of the ones who had the highest of hopes which were then annihilated, BuT tHeN iT gOt GrEaT
uNiRoNiCalLy.
**happiness sounds**
I can always rewatch that vid :)
It's not just fallout games that have Dev rooms, many MMORPG games have these as well but usually only GM's of the game have access to this place because it's basically a place where you could program anything from the game whether it's a weapon or building so players will NEVER have access to a dev room.
Honestly I respect the hell out of whoever at Bethesda came up with the idea of assigning an essay to cheaters. That's some next-level shit, it's actually brilliant.
"R.I.P. Internet Explorer"
Microsoft: *Laughs in Edge*
The reason they gave it to their B team, is because their A team was working on Starfield at the time. The reason the engine also was patchworked to make Fallout 76 work, was because that A team was also developing their new engine for Starfield and future games.
Still doesn't excuse them actually attempting to make Fallout 76 on an engine that in no way can support it.
Oh you say your head is full of Dr. Who trivia?
Name every Doctor
The rum one is particularly high-larious, for less money you can but a 70cl bottle of Havana Club Seleccion de Maestros. Well, you yanks can't but the rest of us can. What people were thinking buying that in the first place I can't quite wrap my head around.
17:34 , hey at least there's just one year left until FO76 becomes playable.
3:32 UFO spotted
*plane/helicopter*
I've heard people say how they've lost all respect and trust for Bethesda.... I didn't quite understand it.... But omfg this is SCUFFED.......
I play 76 and the updates recently are ok for playing, for a while I was really into it (bc f4 is so buggy on my series s that I can't leave the intro house) so it was nice seeing a higher quality fallout game. The endgame is meh and the story is meh but it's still something to do and the content is fairly fun in the moment. The community of 76 is so fucking wholesome. It's a regular practice for high lvl players to shower new players with gifts that'll help them power lvl like crazy. Honestly the main reason I still play it is because I'm setting up a base right near the starting point of 76 and giving new players a whole kit of stuff that they can use to boost themselves into the midgame in a couple less weeks than otherwise. I feel like the community who backed Bethesda got utterly shafted by Bethesda with this whole 76 thing and as far as I can tell, they're still immensely wholesome people to play with. I play 76 continuously now ONLY because of the community. There's not really much of an endgame to chase, so the reason I play is because the other players are just such awesome people that the game feels fun even if there's not a super huge amount to do. If it wasn't for all the help and gifts and cool people I met and now the chance to help out new players too, I know I would've stopped playing before now and I would've uninstalled to play another game.
You sir deserve a wholesome badge
Like, I totally get that people were rightfully upset and disappointed with this particular game, but what weirded me out was how people started acting as if this was typical for Bethesda, rather than an anomaly. When talking about Starfield coming out, at least some people were extremely skeptical because "Bethesda make bad games, remember FO76?" No, they make flawed but still very fun and beloved games, most of the time. The whole reason expectations for Fallout 76 were so high in the first place was because up to that point Bethesda had produced several award-winning best-sellers _in a row._ Which, honestly, sorta makes the failure of this one look like a matter of hubris rather than a lack of competence. These people _usually_ know what they're doing, is what I'm saying.
7:48 the theory is that tod Howard needed more staff to work on Elderscrolls 6... but the guys above him wouldn’t let them hire more people....
...so they pitched the one thing that shareholders and greedy ceos CANT refuse... a shitty money making scheme in the form of an mmorpg style fallout game... the market standard at this point.
And after that barely together ship has sailed, they can move all of the extra hands on deck to the actually bigger game Elderscrolls 6.
More Chicago reacts to monster factory, please.
A - Team was busy gearing up for Starfield. FO76 was just there to get investors and customers to fork over cash to pay for Starfield's development and also why FO76 had unpatched bugs from FO4. Now the cash shop which worked from day one, had not lag problems just worked; is paying for the game so there are now quality of life fixes like the scorch queen (giant mutant plague carrying irradiated bat) no longer dodges under ground like in Skyrim. Also they added NPC characters instead of just data logs in hacked terminals and holotapes all pretty much saying "Hey, if you're listening to this we're all dead or took off out of West Virginia because reasons. But if you follow the clues you might find a pipe pistol that will do 1 more point of damage than what randomly drops off the trash mobs. Well have fun."
This is the game that made Todd Howard the biggest liar since Peter Molyneux.
Ah, Peter "Watch the Grass Grow in Real Time" Molyneux.
"They got wished dat come"
-Lauren (Chicago Reacts) 2022
“You can say that again, Chuck!” - Casey Jones
Lol great quote
i am dying hahahahahahaa omg! u where like yeah ok they did shit here and then comes the rum :O i see how drinking is personal for you hahahahaa way to fcking good! i was feeling from the first secont they crossed the line in your mind there. dam it i cant stop its so funny. ty you made my day fcking awesome
Why would you eventually be able to get into the dev room??
Bethesda showed signs of complacency, greed, and dishonesty long before 76. Icarus just flew too close to the sun this time.
7:30 - Thing is, the biggest most ambitious project is supposed to be Starfield. 76 is kind of a rework of Fallout 4, with new locations, and multiplayer. The scope of the game isn't the problem, and it's not really that ambitious (plenty of people do multiplayer) - the problem is that the Creation Engine is not designed for multiplayer, and they haven't done multiplayer before, and the whole idea of not having NPCs is generally a bad idea for the setting.
Basically, the problem isn't the people, the problem is that the software is garbage, and was always buggy. Adding more features made the buggy software worse.
So i recently went to try F76 again and the game is actually mostly functional now(mind you most ppl that play are whales with game breaking P2W advantages like the scrap box(infinite storage) and free camps in addition to other minor advantages but a game is there , you are just gonna have a hell of time without fallout 1st and despite them advertising it still as having "single player" there still isn't and private servers are still locked to 8 people so you can't even have a decent amount of friends in your server and those server suffer from lacking features like workshop persistence which you would expect them to have since they are not public so they don't need to delete your workshop when u leave. Also still no text chat and voice chat doesn't work 99% of the time. Those are some of the major cons as for good shit. PVP is nearly gone and even when someone tries that BS most of the server tends to grief the guy until he leaves. Healthy community for general gameplay and for world events and helping boost ppl (not like early when ppl would just nuke you if you tried to get a boost from world events and such. I see a good builder community who just hop in to show off their camp builds and some are really intricate and cool. Game now has a decent chunk to do and isn't as dragged down by "ritual activity " play like other similar MMOs. A lot of weight needs to be readjusted tho as some items have absurd weight simply for the same of clogging the storage limits to the point of making some weapons nearly non-viable as storing extra ammo is nearly impossible with the low storage limit of camps(only 1200 when an average weight of a rifle or other mainline weapon is 20-40 regardless of the kind of weapon in some cases). The dumb pointless survival game elements like food and certain drinks expiring needs to go away along with hunger/hydrate , keep those half assed elements out of fallout. Also like F4 its still missing some basic QOL features like hud color adjustment without mods and sadly the mods for it are not great so enjoy puke yellow if like me you are doing a PA build. I mean atleast i didn't buy it ,i played 8 hours to write a review and thats as much as i could handle.
Ha! Everyone will forgive you after that one there, no worries 13:50
21:50 Lauren is based , Nice.
24:08 Exactly.
"Oh no they got Wish dot commed!' Hah! That got a good laugh out of me, nice!
yo whens the nest gtu?
I’m not 100% sure, but my guess as to why the game development was given to Bethesda Austin was likely because there wasn’t AS much to do to make the game as if it was something totally brand new. Fallout 76 was essentially the exact same as Fallout 4 just with some newer textures and a new map. They were essentially able to take the bones of Fallout 4 and work off of that to make 76. Of course they had to implement the whole mmo aspect and get it to work on servers with other players and what not too, but since a fairly large chunk of the game was already done, they likely gave it to their smaller divisions to work on because it was less work to do and Bethesda’s main team could start work on other big games they were trying to do. Now the weird part is since Fallout 76, Bethesda hasn’t released a game that’s their own since then aside from the year after they released The Elder Scrolls: Blade which was a mobile game so I don’t really count that. Not so sure that would’ve been taking up their main development studio’s time to be considered more important than a fallout title. Sure they’ve release a few games since then but they were developed by their subsidiary studios. Arkane, Tango, Nightdive, id software, MachineGames, and Avalanche. So not REALLY Bethesda. Not being worked on by Bethesda directly anyway. So i don’t know if they were already working on their upcoming game Starfield and so they put 76 to their other studios to work on or what.
14:00 yeeeeah... Yeah that's pretty bad 😂
Who's your favorite Doctor?
11:35
Nope
11:37
Nope
Good video they're reacting to again.
Lauren had to see it:)
@@ChicagoReacts And it's a good thing she did.
Can't wait to see her next one. 🦞👍
Yeah, it's still pretty buggy. I first tried 76 when they were first implementing Wastelanders and have also been playing it recently. For the most part it's stable, but it does still have issues.
New Vegas is actually considered to be the best Fallout game there is, so doesnt really compares to 76 xD
Some people consider the first two games to be better
@@ItsAnH I was kinda speaking about the newer ones with 1st/3rd person shooter style. sure the old ones are also great
Are you related to Kit?
pls watch "Gaming for non-gamers" by Razbuten
It is indeed very bad to confuse the best fallout game with the worst fallout game
NEW VEGAS? YOU MISTOOK 76 FOR NEW VEGAS?
WELL.
In the words of fall out.....
We can't let God do all the work.
7:37 because its bethesda and there approach to fixing doesn't exist all there games are majorly broken in some way
I love doctor who too! Also wanted to say Fallout New Vegas is arguably the best game in the series (ironically its the only 3d one not developed by bethesda) and 76 is the worst in the series.
And FO 1&2 are also technically done by Obsidian, back when they were still part of Black Isle Studios under Interplay (before Bethesda got the Fallout IP during Interplay's attempt to avoid bankruptcy and selling off some IPs to try and keep afloat). (Black Isle broke up and split into Troika and Obsidian with a few devs going over to Bioware as well).
New Vegas itself is also loosely based on parts of the Fallout 3:Van Buren prototype, which would've been the Interplay version of Fallout 3 had they not sold off the IP.
New Vegas gave Obsidian a chance to use some of those ideas and story-beats, though due to the time-crunch and having to work with existing FO3 assets, some things didn't make it in or were changed a lot.
Oh man I love New Vegas. Best fallout game by far
5:26 I'm sorry, i find it disturbing that with all those f*ck ups...1000+ players rated it positive!?? I'd like to sell those people a game (i have no idea how to make a game) OH and i never bought this shite as i have a brain that's learned to wait to see what the general concensus is first ☺
I died when she seaid aren't you going to the dev room eneyways gril nooooo the dev room is where when they made the game they can go in there to help them make the game
I was actually having a good bit of fun with it until they broke my legacy weapon, then I dropped it like a sack of dog shit.
Funnily enough New Vegas is the best Fallout and it's not even made by Bethesda but some external studio, Bethesda just published it.
As a fallout youtuber... I find your confusion between fallout 76 and New Vegas to be disturbing and offensive. JK, there are tons of others who might flame the comment section, but if you're not a player, then it's completely understandable that you might mix up the titles. it is pretty coincidental that New Vegas was also notoriously buggy when it launched too since Todd outsourced it to a different company entirely, but people tend to look back at New Vegas with rose tinted glasses because it, by a huge margin, has the best story of all fallout games.
The fallout rabbithole is deep. Even the simple explanation of Bethesda mishandling it to a laughable degree since they acquired it does no justice.
Yes, Fallout is not a Bethesda original. It was originally owned by Black Isle (many of whom would go to Obsidian, explaining why New Vegas is so beloved.)
“Bethesda never Understood” Fallout and “Fallout 3 is Garbage and here’s why” are excellent videos to start a journey down said rabbithole if interested.
As of right now… the game is still bad, now because of Bethesda trying to fix it. Patriciantv’s massive project of “Fallout 76 is worse than you know” goes into EXPLICIT detail about it.
I believe the raising and ‘slashing’ prices is not technically illegal in the US, my job does this in sales, but it is more sparse, and based on what the sales associate deems as fit, in order to encourage good customers to get more expensive things by making them sígnicantly less expensive and you get more out of it. It is more so, you have coupons on hand to give out in certain situations to help body sales (like clients from businesses coming in get certain fees waved due to the products they need being different, and shouldn’t be charged extra for getting less) so, maybe? Even then, raising prices to discount them technically is based on the seller, and so are the sales.
And no, I will not elaborate on where I work, because regardless, they are of good quality for their prices (even before discounts) and I like being able to pay the bills in a way that actually has helped me grow as a person. (Plus my manager is an awesome person)
30:08 umm... What?
ughh....
This is the kind of shit that makes me not only not feel bad for pirating Bethesda games, but I outright feel good about it. It’s up there with Nintendo games. I love the games they make but their business practices are so unbelievably scummy that if I pirate a game (that they realistically aren’t even profiting from anyway) I feel like I get to show my middle finger to whichever corpo scumlord decided his 3rd yacht is more important than delivering a finished product
The reason they gave Fallout 76 to the B-Team was for the A-Team to make Skyrim yet again
Meanwhile fallout 76 just got even more post launch content and is now regarded as a really fun online experience. Complete with npc's, questlines, stat checks and even more content and items.
The devs really did pull a no man's sky and work their asses off on it until it became a good game. Honestly pretty endearing.
Ha! they're not even close in comparison. the devs fixed it yes, but the game doesn't deserve to be compared to NMS. It may be managements fault not the devs, but I still wouldn't compare them. not after the bag, coke bottle, and ridiculous pricing and ingame crap.
not trying to be mean to you here though it might come off that way
Oh you think thats bad Bethestard Todd just released another patch to skyrim wich fixes nothing and breaks everything else including mods.
todd is know as a liar so yea
I'm surprised he didn't link up with Rockstar at this point
@@SaturnJ97 i knew rockstar was assholes but not liars
We do not question the TODD GOD!!! O.o
76 is perfect and it just works!! Okay!!!! Okay. Just... wanted to make that clear. XD
Well new vagas and 76 have one thing in commong, they came out as buggy messes and still mostly are
gamestop is a scamer shop. its like you buy a game for 60 dollars. you refund it 3 hours later and get like 5 bucks for it.
Classic internet historian video but Fallout 76 is a much better game now.
Remember that guy who mugged you last week? He hasn't mugged anyone this week so you should totally go on walks with him into secluded dark alleys and stuff, I'm sure he's a nice guy!
@@officiallyjan8596 By that logic you are done with Bethesda video games?
@@RevanBC Unless they keep an astonishing track record for a good while from now on AND cut out the nonsense they're still doing right now, that is the only rational choice, yes.
Why on earth would you give money to a company and pay for their products after they have PROVEN that they *will* unquestionably try to rob you blind even illegally if they have to, don't care at all about your experience and are happy to throw you under the buss for a quick buck at any time no matter if they have grounds for it or not? They freely lie about their products, won't refund you when they don't work, censor all criticism of their actions even when they're outright engaging in illegal activities to drain you of more money and they take no responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
Endorsing them as a company at this point is nothing short of idiotic and self-destructive.