@@Charliestrife01 animation wise sure but the actual battle system is horribly designed in PLA. Strong/Agile style was cool in concept but terrible in actual combat.
@@normalguy5157 it was cool, not exactly balanced, but look at terastilization now, that shit isn't balanced either, and doesn't even have the cool factor at all.
@johnstrife7 you're smoking fat weiner. Sword and Shield are amazing games. The DLC is top tier. Compared to this 🗑 you can't even shiny hunt legendaries for Christ's sake. You can in SwSh.
@@GAMMA.999 I got it by someone trading me shiny Zacian and Zamazenta through suprise trade, and then since I haven’t played the game in a while I forget what the place is called, but it’s like a shop/bid centre next to an ocean or smt, you have to talk to a specific NPC and he will give you a list of items, what I remember is that you have to do the time skip glitch where you make your console 1 day ahead over and over until you get the rusty sword and rusty shield, then give them to their respective pokemon and when you battle, they turn crowned! Still look up a guide because I haven’t played the game for like 6 months
I absolutely agree with swsh having amazing move animations (at least for signature moves. Let’s ignore the fact double kick exists) I don’t think gamefreak will ever fix scarlet and violet’s bugs. We’re getting a new game in 2025. It’s such a shame they won’t even be bothered to fix it but they have a chance with the new game.
@@THGMR-ox7sd were not getting gen 10 until 2026 going with the pattern on when games release, they are going to be 4 years apart gen 8 was 2018 and gen 9 was 2022 so gen 10 is 2026
Well, the battle animations were fire, I don’t think anyone disputes that. But other animations, like in the overworld were horrible and looked like they were from games out of the 2000s (Im referring mainly to the animation of Zacian/Zamazenta turning while walking in place.) Also not to mention the other problems the game had.
dude, the community said that the animations were too long in SWSH and when scarlet and violet came out the community once again said they were too short and lazy, cant you make up your minds?
It's actually funny, that no one in this comment section knew that most of the legendary signature moves need the focused camera angle to trigger the animation with angles and detail. But who am i to tell everybody🤣💆🏿♂️
Its because every Pokemon battle in sv is a feild battle. Like every battle in legends arceus. And thus unfortunately they cut the animation to not be so over the top Even in standard battles is just feild battles but on a predetermined battlefield It sux
@@carlosbrambila4667 These damn idiots hoping GameFreak will actually care about their product lmaorofl. Pokemon consumers are so fcking gullible and ignorant.
Maybe it's a hardware limitation from Switch and they can't add any more cutscenes like moves but it would be better if they did not release SV yet if it can't have all those features from SWSH.
to be fair, those are like the wild battles, that dont have the cinematic camera angles, so there might be a slightly better animation in like a wifi battle
2022 does have a whole animation, but when u move the screen to look around, all animated moves dont look that good (but sword and shield is way better bc both of the doggies are based on them, just like testeralizing, terapagos and etc have also incredible vfx in scarlet or violet, highly doubt it in the next game)
That is SUCH A Bad excuse. All the legendaries before zacian and zamazenta kept their signature moves even after the generation they were released in. Gamefreak not adding these here is just lazy
Use this moves in main battle such as gym or elite four Moves are short and not to great in just overworld wild battle But moves are still better in main battle they just make it shorter
Thats a lame ass reason from a multibillion company. That's this game keep getting worse. Even SMT V that have less budget than Scarlet and Violet still have better animation than all of those. When pokemon finally starts getting cool animation the devs start become way lazier
To be fair, you could actually explain it away as there not being enough Dynamax Energy around to visually charge the moves. It would also explain why Eternatus loses Eternabeam, as there's not enough Dynamax Energy to Eternamax.
@@jmansword From Bulbapedia: "After it reawakened in the present day, Eternatus's core needed to reabsorb the Galar particles in order to remain active, apparently due to its past defeat weakening it." So it's fair to assume a lack of Galar particles could cause it to be unable to Eternamax, the same reason other Pokémon can't Dynamax or Gigantamax in Paldea.
@@jmansword You're right that's not and official source, it's what's called a secondary source, someone else has compiled the research. That however doesn't mean it can't be used to prove a point. Bulbapedia gets its info from the official games and anime after all.
I don't think they ruined it. They're just disable animation cutscenes of exclusive moves in Scarlet and Violet .making it more real time battle. Although it kinda lose its touche but the battle progress much faster with no delay waiting to finish move animation
Honestly, the toned down attack animations are fine by me. It was fine in SwSh because they were the box art legends and all but in SV, def nice how they managed to make the animations in a way that got the point across yet still worked.
I don't like some of the precedents that Sword and Shield set (paying lots of extra money for dlcs, limiting the pokedex, getting rid of mega evolution and Z moves), but they are easily the most cinematic Mainline games.
@@masterofdoots5965Ik but it's weird that the move isn't in the game cuz I have a shiny zamazenta with the moves so it's impossible to not have the move........
Pokemon sword and shield animations are the best I would be so happy if pokemon company spend 3-4 years making legends Za and provide us a a quality game
@@avaluggglazer445 not as far as I aware, unless you mean the setting to skip....all of them, unsure if that was in this game, but I like seeing the animations, don't like a full movie for a move
@@Bluedittoman Skipping move animations isn't in this game (since they did trim them down already) but I'm pretty sure it was in sword and shield so if they made certain moves keep their more cinematic animations they could've given an option to skip them instead of ruining them (or they could've kept some the same like cinderace's pyro ball)
There’s a reason they changed these so they don’t overshine the box legendary, and their game to the box legendary so they have the best animations in this game they don’t because they’re not
gamefreak already has a bad history in terms of making their games function correctly, so trying to work off of being able to move around during battles + co-op existing is just not something they can do. IMO the better solution is just lock the camera during moves like this, but lol
I’m gonna tell you the reason they attack or less epic is because they’re no longer the box legendary the box legendary has to have the most epic attacks because it’s the box legendary
@@razinFR33 id rather not see a whole ass cutscene when doing a move, it could be an option but still i don’t think anyone really cares for the animations as much
@@codmlover23These guys will make every excuse for Gamefreak to continue doing the absolute bare minimum to sell games. They aren’t a small indie company and they make boatloads of money. Hopefully a true competitor shows up so they can start putting some effort into the Pokémon games again.
Yeah, nah. They made it better. I loved behemoth bash with my zamazenta, but I am NOT sitting through that shot every turn. Its better noe that theyve shortened it.
I love SV as the first open world Pokemon game experience but the way SS games look is way more appealing. The animations, the camera during battle, the artistic direction etc. is amazing in Sword and Shield.
If they give these moves to other Pokemon then the animations will either not work at all or look wrong. Imagine if a future Pokemon got access to dragon darts or thunder cage and you see a Pokemon in the animation that has nothing to do with the Pokemon using it.
Tera raids are awful and if one of the things that have to be sacrificed to even make tera raids SOMEWHAT functional is make all attack moves look lame af then remove Tera raids.
I just realized that the wing things on zacians back are what makes his sword bigger, I thought it just grew
OH UR RIGHT! THATS SO COOL
I used Mind Blown! 🤯
Yooo, I didn’t know that!
Same
Omg ur right
Honestly, Behemoth Blade would still be perfectly fine if they hadn't removed the sword getting bigger.
Very much agreed
I mean, it’s called *behemoth* blade for a reason
Yeah _true_
Nintendo Unity told me that he experienced a glitch preventing his Zamazenta from using Behemoth Bash.
It’s a separate move now
When a lvl 7 Pokémon see a eternabeam: man i'm dead 💀
It was level 15
Even Hisuian Samurrot's Ceasless Edge in Arceus it looks badass in Violet he was like toy moving arms 😂
Lets hope gen 10 is mixing BOTH Arceus AND S/V battles in one good show.
I'm not gonna get my hopes up, but I don't disagree with you either
Arceus’s battle system was pretty flawed.
@@normalguy5157but it’s leagues better than what we have now which is nothing.
@@Charliestrife01 animation wise sure but the actual battle system is horribly designed in PLA. Strong/Agile style was cool in concept but terrible in actual combat.
@@normalguy5157 it was cool, not exactly balanced, but look at terastilization now, that shit isn't balanced either, and doesn't even have the cool factor at all.
Another reason why my swsh team is staying in galar
They're both trash, one game worse than the other doesn't mean the other one is automatically good
@johnstrife7 you're smoking fat weiner. Sword and Shield are amazing games. The DLC is top tier. Compared to this 🗑 you can't even shiny hunt legendaries for Christ's sake. You can in SwSh.
*cinematics, kid*
@@johnstrife7personally i like both of the games a lot
@@ItzYell0w33 good for you still trash though
Probably since the Gen 8 legendaries aren’t legally available yet their moves might be added back to them in the future update or something :|
Nope that's their new animations XD
@@groudongamer3178 I'm talking about GameFreak eventually adding the signature moves for the last two
@@RedthegamingZoroark I realized afterwards. I'll take the L on that one. 😬
Eh. Hope so,
Justice for legendary Pokémon moves
Behemoth Bash just looks like Extreme Speed now
I guess I wasn't paying close enough attention. Still, Iron Head shouldn't just look like Extreme Speed either.
@@eric_moore-6126 Quick Attack V2
At least behemoth bash is added now
How’d u get it?
@@GAMMA.999 I got it by someone trading me shiny Zacian and Zamazenta through suprise trade, and then since I haven’t played the game in a while I forget what the place is called, but it’s like a shop/bid centre next to an ocean or smt, you have to talk to a specific NPC and he will give you a list of items, what I remember is that you have to do the time skip glitch where you make your console 1 day ahead over and over until you get the rusty sword and rusty shield, then give them to their respective pokemon and when you battle, they turn crowned! Still look up a guide because I haven’t played the game for like 6 months
How?
iron head is Behemoth bash
If you don't get the move Behemoth blade because you have to have a Steel type move with the Rusted sword to get it
Half of the budget of Sw/Sh went into the Eternabeam animation 💀
I felt that way too, but it's better.
SV is fun, but SWSH has the best move animations imo
Now let's hope GF focuses on fixing actual problematic bugs
I absolutely agree with swsh having amazing move animations (at least for signature moves. Let’s ignore the fact double kick exists)
I don’t think gamefreak will ever fix scarlet and violet’s bugs. We’re getting a new game in 2025. It’s such a shame they won’t even be bothered to fix it but they have a chance with the new game.
@@THGMR-ox7sd were not getting gen 10 until 2026 going with the pattern on when games release, they are going to be 4 years apart gen 8 was 2018 and gen 9 was 2022 so gen 10 is 2026
Despite having two active trainers there, I have mostly fled Scarlet and Violet towards the previous generation.
@@TheTerraGamesYTActually, 2025. It’s a three year period. SwSh were released in 2019, while SV were released in 2022.
@@SylveonMujigaeOfficial oh
They had to make them work from all angles, it happened to every move
Wow gamefreak really hates zamazenta he's my favorite of the two
Flip you gamefreak
I know how to get behemoth blade and Behemoth bash, all you have to do is to have zacian and Zamazenta to have the moves Iron Head.
… the backflip for Behemoth Blade is pretty cool, I’ll give them that.
Idk why people hate on sword and shield legit had the best move animation out of any mainline game
Well, the battle animations were fire, I don’t think anyone disputes that. But other animations, like in the overworld were horrible and looked like they were from games out of the 2000s (Im referring mainly to the animation of Zacian/Zamazenta turning while walking in place.) Also not to mention the other problems the game had.
@@TheWazzoGames S/V had way worse problems tbh especially in the overworld
Because of the dexit.
@@deadriver dexit meaning?
@@primal9688 well you would know by now:
You can't catch them all since gen 8.
0:26 wait that looks like Palkia signature move and 0:59 where is it’s signature move?
Zamazentas signature move Behomoth Bash is supposed to be what replaces Iron Head, but game freak was lazy and didn't even add it to the game
dude, the community said that the animations were too long in SWSH and when scarlet and violet came out the community once again said they were too short and lazy, cant you make up your minds?
Those who said they were too long should have taken 2 seconds to turn the off in the settings but now you cant do that so everyones mad
the animations were perfectly fine in swsh
@@PL4SMA_807 those people who complained that they were "too long" never player turn base rpgs before lol
SWSH is way better, if it's too long you have an option to remove the animation. I hope they kept/improved the animation from SWSH to SV.
@@soteloz13 that's what I'm saying bro like they can't use their own brains for once
IT DOEST COUNT AS RUINING THE MOVE IF ONLY ONE OF THE THREE IS IN THE GAME!!!1!1!11!!!!!
Tf Gamefreak
thank you for your sacrifice random wooloo, you will be missed🪦
probably a cold take but i always found SWSH to be visually better games than SV
Anyone who disagrees with you is a goddamn moron.
Because at least SwSh gave us a lot that SV tried and failed to replicate.
They are better I hate this new game
And this is such a crazy thing to say because swsh is already pretty ugly and so bad so just imagine how sv are
@@dexios819 i hate it too. it was dry like xy and uglier than swsh (somehow)
It's actually funny, that no one in this comment section knew that most of the legendary signature moves need the focused camera angle to trigger the animation with angles and detail. But who am i to tell everybody🤣💆🏿♂️
Its because every Pokemon battle in sv is a feild battle.
Like every battle in legends arceus. And thus unfortunately they cut the animation to not be so over the top
Even in standard battles is just feild battles but on a predetermined battlefield
It sux
Agree.. Wish they would made every signature move as awesome as we see in the anime..
If they do Alola games on the Switch and they do this to Z-Move as well so help me…
"Maybe" on the switch 2
They aren’t even in the game yet these could just be filler animations
I hope, but I don't think so
They aren’t that not how animations work
@@carlosbrambila4667 you can very easily change animations with a patch
@@Trash-bd1cb when has gamefreak done that?
@@carlosbrambila4667 These damn idiots hoping GameFreak will actually care about their product lmaorofl. Pokemon consumers are so fcking gullible and ignorant.
Guys he used hacks to get the legendary mons if your wondering.
probably he used pokemon home
@@TheTerraGamesYT this video was made before the home update was released
@@brainfreeze3793 oh
Maybe it's a hardware limitation from Switch and they can't add any more cutscenes like moves but it would be better if they did not release SV yet if it can't have all those features from SWSH.
to be fair, those are like the wild battles, that dont have the cinematic camera angles, so there might be a slightly better animation in like a wifi battle
Imagine just how much an ETERNAMAX ETERNATUS would lag the game
Would’ve been nice if they honoured the legacy of the Gen that game before this game by adding more detail to their animation.
At least the music got better
I wish people talked more about things like this
"I hate how long these move animations are"
They become shorter
"There's no effort put here"
Those who said that could have just turned animations off of course but its easier to complain
Long animations are way better from SWSH than from SV. In SWSH, you have an option to turn it off. In SV you're stuck with a stick figure animations.
Poor Zamazenta rest in peace Zamazenta
yeah the gen after a cool legendary's animation is used, they always seem to just give a few generic looking FX
Dynamax cannon left the chat…
2022 does have a whole animation, but when u move the screen to look around, all animated moves dont look that good (but sword and shield is way better bc both of the doggies are based on them, just like testeralizing, terapagos and etc have also incredible vfx in scarlet or violet, highly doubt it in the next game)
Well maybe it's because those 3 pokemons aren't the main focuses nor signature ones of the new game?
That is SUCH A Bad excuse. All the legendaries before zacian and zamazenta kept their signature moves even after the generation they were released in. Gamefreak not adding these here is just lazy
In sw/sh all other legendaries had their signature moves looking the same, thats just a bad excuse
Use this moves in main battle such as gym or elite four
Moves are short and not to great in just overworld wild battle
But moves are still better in main battle they just make it shorter
Of corse they did thoes 2 aren't the main focus of scarlet and violet
Thats a lame ass reason from a multibillion company. That's this game keep getting worse. Even SMT V that have less budget than Scarlet and Violet still have better animation than all of those. When pokemon finally starts getting cool animation the devs start become way lazier
Wait, they focused on something in the game? Or did they focus on milking every penny from their stupid and gullible Pokemon consumers like you?
THAT (E)N(D) THEME ALWAYS HITS ME 😭 They really did the doggos dirty, AND ESPECIALLY ETERNATUS, damn
Behemoth bash is in gen 9
To be fair, you could actually explain it away as there not being enough Dynamax Energy around to visually charge the moves. It would also explain why Eternatus loses Eternabeam, as there's not enough Dynamax Energy to Eternamax.
eternatus is the source of all of galars dynamax energy though that why he the only one that can enternamax
@@jmansword From Bulbapedia: "After it reawakened in the present day, Eternatus's core needed to reabsorb the Galar particles in order to remain active, apparently due to its past defeat weakening it."
So it's fair to assume a lack of Galar particles could cause it to be unable to Eternamax, the same reason other Pokémon can't Dynamax or Gigantamax in Paldea.
@@GalarianGuy bulbapedia isn't an official source it can't be used as an argument do to not being reliable information
@@jmansword You're right that's not and official source, it's what's called a secondary source, someone else has compiled the research. That however doesn't mean it can't be used to prove a point. Bulbapedia gets its info from the official games and anime after all.
Behemoth Bash is in the game. It's not good, but it is in the game.
I don't think they ruined it. They're just disable animation cutscenes of exclusive moves in Scarlet and Violet .making it more real time battle. Although it kinda lose its touche but the battle progress much faster with no delay waiting to finish move animation
Look at legends arceus . All battle animations look WAY better and their are quick
If you dont want move animations, turn them off
Theres been a toggle system forever
@@151TheMew that looks even dumber . Pokemon fight and win by standing there MENACINGLY
@@151TheMew ScVi removed the battle animation toggle, actually. 💀
@@151TheMew Wow, you made the garbage game look even worse.
Ah yes keep behemoth blade in the game but behemoth bash? No that has to go.
Bash is in the game
Well, nothing was ever in Zamazenta's side
Honestly, the toned down attack animations are fine by me. It was fine in SwSh because they were the box art legends and all but in SV, def nice how they managed to make the animations in a way that got the point across yet still worked.
Stop
I don't like some of the precedents that Sword and Shield set (paying lots of extra money for dlcs, limiting the pokedex, getting rid of mega evolution and Z moves), but they are easily the most cinematic Mainline games.
1:02 Don't lie bro it in the game the move Behemoth Bash.
It wasn't before. He hacked the Pokemon into the game
@@masterofdoots5965Ik but it's weird that the move isn't in the game cuz I have a shiny zamazenta with the moves so it's impossible to not have the move........
i feel like theyre just simplified bc theyre not the main legends in sc/vi 🤷♀️ (although mirai/koraidons animations are pretty simple too)
It’s a shame that Gamefreak became lazy
Damn, great to know that they directed many of the resources to improve the animations... s/
Pokemon sword and shield animations are the best
I would be so happy if pokemon company spend 3-4 years making legends Za and provide us a a quality game
Bro didn't even use behemoth bash, that was iron head
(The move isn't in the game)
Although seemingly excellent, the production is long and stressful, as you will see it over and over again.
As a huge swsh fan, it kind of bummed me out when i saw 😔
Omg they nerf the shit out that animation
Oh they made it faster? Scarlet and violet wins this one.
This is why gen 9 is suck...
But hemeth blade isn't too terrible but hemet bash is a straight down grade and Eternities signature move not existing is just pathetic
Seems better to me, I like not having to go through long cutscenes just for 1 move
Was there not a way to skip move animations?
@@avaluggglazer445 not as far as I aware, unless you mean the setting to skip....all of them, unsure if that was in this game, but I like seeing the animations, don't like a full movie for a move
@@Bluedittoman Skipping move animations isn't in this game (since they did trim them down already) but I'm pretty sure it was in sword and shield so if they made certain moves keep their more cinematic animations they could've given an option to skip them instead of ruining them (or they could've kept some the same like cinderace's pyro ball)
Far too many of you morons. Those animations are amazing. You "guys" keep messing it up for those of us who like to enjoy the game.
Its gonna have special treatment if its a box legend
Guys how do you get eterna beam on eternatis cus I've never gotten it and mine is level 97
I think you need to get to level 100 some Pokemon get another move like reshiram’s blue flame move
Just half a level away now
Moves like Retaliate are also ruined because you can freely move the camera in SV
There’s a reason they changed these so they don’t overshine the box legendary, and their game to the box legendary so they have the best animations in this game they don’t because they’re not
gamefreak already has a bad history in terms of making their games function correctly, so trying to work off of being able to move around during battles + co-op existing is just not something they can do.
IMO the better solution is just lock the camera during moves like this, but lol
At least zamazenta was buffed with body press
I’m gonna tell you the reason they attack or less epic is because they’re no longer the box legendary the box legendary has to have the most epic attacks because it’s the box legendary
One is an open world game. The other is not. 😒🙄
Bro just copy and paste the move with lower quality and frame rate
@@razinFR33 id rather not see a whole ass cutscene when doing a move, it could be an option but still i don’t think anyone really cares for the animations as much
@@razinFR33 it would be annoying it keep having
U forgot legend arceus exist.Its also open world with much better animation
@@codmlover23These guys will make every excuse for Gamefreak to continue doing the absolute bare minimum to sell games. They aren’t a small indie company and they make boatloads of money. Hopefully a true competitor shows up so they can start putting some effort into the Pokémon games again.
Iron head?
Yeah, nah. They made it better. I loved behemoth bash with my zamazenta, but I am NOT sitting through that shot every turn. Its better noe that theyve shortened it.
well do you want open world or not LOL
Pokémon fans: these animations are awesome pls take 60 more dollars from me
Fuck I brought eteratis to Pokémon Scarlet
I love SV as the first open world Pokemon game experience but the way SS games look is way more appealing. The animations, the camera during battle, the artistic direction etc. is amazing in Sword and Shield.
Upgrade imo. I don't need to watch Avatar: the Way of Water everytime someone uses behemoth blade
I despise you.
Yk you could have just turned animations off? And dont tell me you actualy think this looks better💀
If they give these moves to other Pokemon then the animations will either not work at all or look wrong. Imagine if a future Pokemon got access to dragon darts or thunder cage and you see a Pokemon in the animation that has nothing to do with the Pokemon using it.
When game doesn’t focus on old Pokémon anymore they prefer the exclusive Pokémon that recently discovered
Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe sh*t
that poor meowth
WHAT ARE THEY DOING IN VIOLET AND SCARLET??
Thanks a lot, GameFreak! 😡
It's and open world so I can understand
You're clearly a conformist but i understand
Well you need choose, best animation with limited world or less animation with full open world?
Eternabeam not being in the game makes sense tbh.
update zamazentas signature is in the game but its just as ugly
@obaming
Wait what the fuck? Since when did eternabeam even exist?
Rip electrike :(
Its becuz u can only dynamax in galar and not paldea
They did pyro ball dirty
They do this on purpose because they want you to focus on the next generation, but that's just my theory.
Se puede decir que espada y escudo sigue siendo el campeón aun que lo rechazen xd.
I mean it's not a bad animation, but it's still not as good
Edit: for Zacian, at least...
The others, not so much
Prease undelstan we arr smarr indie companu
Bro animations are different in trainer battles. The wild battles animations are just simplified versions
You do realise the raid battles are time based, right? If they took that long, you'd have like...not much time to get your next move done
BRUHH The raid battles are still laggy af. Stop defending game freak for them to do the base minimum
Tera raids are awful and if one of the things that have to be sacrificed to even make tera raids SOMEWHAT functional is make all attack moves look lame af then remove Tera raids.