There are ball bearings, but the mechanism is pretty straight forward, just 3 bearings in a conical shaped housing with a rope through the middle, it would have to be pretty full of mud before it stopped working. ~ Ben
This is an insanely overly complicated piece of equipment when simple guy rope will do the same job and cost cents to the dollar compared to this. So many failure points. Who is this even for?
There are a lot of people using these who think otherwise, Matthew. These are for anyone needing a reliable and easy to use guy rope, certainly do the same thing as a regular guy but easy to setup, adjust and tidy to pack away. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors you seriously want to try and say that this thing, with all its bearings, zips and bag etc is somehow easier or more reliable than a piece of rope with a wooden runner? The thing that has been used for hundreds of years. Keep telling yourself what you want to hear so you can make a quick buck
Interesting idea. I wonder how it would last. Ball bearings are going to stop working with a bit of dirt / sand. If not using the carabiner that's going to jangle all night.
The carabiner can come off, and the mechanism is pretty straight forward, it would have to be very gunged up with mud in order for them to stop working. ~ Ben
It’s a clever idea, but I can’t see much advantage over a regular decent guy rope. Both are strong, both are just as easy to use. A guy rope doesn’t have a bag attached to store excess rope, but I’ve never had spare rope dangling off a guy rope anyway.
It offers extra function and ease of use, won't suit everyone but I can see how useful it would be to have a few of these packed away with my RV5 tent for easy setup of the front awning. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Agree. While initial purchase price is important, I try to look at value over time as more important. If it improves the camping experience, gives you time back and lasts longer, then over the long term it's a good investment in my mind.
@@SnowysOutdoors what I'm thinking though is using Oztent's guy lines due to the built in reflective properties of the guy lines. If Tiger would have reflection in the guy ropes it would be an instant hit. Dunno if anyone has suggested it or not, just an idea Snowy's could suggest to Tiegear.
@SnowysOutdoors not really they are very bulky compared to a simple rope to do the same job and cost many times more like optimising expenses and taking up more storage anyway
Nice idea but I try and find multiple uses for things to carry less so I just use the ratchet straps that I use to tie my gear down when travelling.
Nice tip. I hadn't thought of that.
That's a great idea, I like everything to have multiple uses too. ~ Ben
Bloody ripper idea for multiple use... 👍🏻
@@chrisspies8123 Cheers.
Not original as I've seen others doing it but useful.
WoW... so many questions! Dirt, sand, mud, seized bearings, pinches, weight..
Love the handy bag!✔️✔️✔️
There are ball bearings, but the mechanism is pretty straight forward, just 3 bearings in a conical shaped housing with a rope through the middle, it would have to be pretty full of mud before it stopped working. ~ Ben
Good bit of kit. But i still think oztent have the gest guy ropes on a given tent setup though.
The Oztent guy ropes are good, the keepers work and the ropes are nice and thick. ~ Ben
This is an insanely overly complicated piece of equipment when simple guy rope will do the same job and cost cents to the dollar compared to this. So many failure points. Who is this even for?
There are a lot of people using these who think otherwise, Matthew. These are for anyone needing a reliable and easy to use guy rope, certainly do the same thing as a regular guy but easy to setup, adjust and tidy to pack away. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors you seriously want to try and say that this thing, with all its bearings, zips and bag etc is somehow easier or more reliable than a piece of rope with a wooden runner? The thing that has been used for hundreds of years. Keep telling yourself what you want to hear so you can make a quick buck
Interesting idea. I wonder how it would last. Ball bearings are going to stop working with a bit of dirt / sand. If not using the carabiner that's going to jangle all night.
It’s a carabiner, take it off the loop if you’re not using it
The carabiner can come off, and the mechanism is pretty straight forward, it would have to be very gunged up with mud in order for them to stop working. ~ Ben
Yep my mistake. It can come off.
Have mine since they came out , no issues at all .
Pretty bullet proof , like Ben said just keep them clean .
Seems bulky for what it is
Might be perception, its not as bulky as some heavy duty guy ropes when bundled
~ Lauren
I thought they wouldn't be cheap but $25 each had me sucking air through my teeth. And it doesn't even include a trace spring. Thanks, but no thanks.
I can understand that they won't suit everyone. We do sell Lot of these though and I'm yet to hear anything negative from anyone who owns them. ~ Ben
It’s a clever idea, but I can’t see much advantage over a regular decent guy rope. Both are strong, both are just as easy to use. A guy rope doesn’t have a bag attached to store excess rope, but I’ve never had spare rope dangling off a guy rope anyway.
It offers extra function and ease of use, won't suit everyone but I can see how useful it would be to have a few of these packed away with my RV5 tent for easy setup of the front awning. ~ Ben
A $25 guy rope?......nah.
Seems expensive, and it is compared to a basic guy rope, but it does offer much more functionality. ~ Ben
Haven't seen one of these since I was a kid. A wash line tightener, a bag and a rope.
I guess you could use this as a wash line too. ~ Ben
Nice overview!
A much cleaner and easier alternative to the traditional guy rope 👌
Yeah, my initial thought was that it is expensive for a guy rope, but the function if offers justifies the price. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Agree. While initial purchase price is important, I try to look at value over time as more important. If it improves the camping experience, gives you time back and lasts longer, then over the long term it's a good investment in my mind.
Is the rope replaceable if it gets damaged?
I'm sure you could, you'd just need to feed new cord through the mechanism. It's unlikely you'll need to replace it anytime soon though. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors what I'm thinking though is using Oztent's guy lines due to the built in reflective properties of the guy lines. If Tiger would have reflection in the guy ropes it would be an instant hit. Dunno if anyone has suggested it or not, just an idea Snowy's could suggest to Tiegear.
Told you you will like them :)
There is nothing not to like, they are simple and functional. ~ Ben
If it isn't broke why fix it😅
Not fixing, optimising. ~ Ben
@SnowysOutdoors not really they are very bulky compared to a simple rope to do the same job and cost many times more like optimising expenses and taking up more storage anyway