I am about to take the plunge! And I have narrowed it down to this machine. I have watched many of your beginner videos and tutorials. Some twice. Your videos have played a big part in my decision. Thank so much for the excellent videos and the time it takes to produce them.
@@everyonelovesLewi if your on Facebook, then join the Sainsmart group. You'll get much more support in there (and I'll likely see your issues faster as well). What issue are you having?
New to cnc, thank you so much , you saved me from throwing this machine out the window . Look forward to learning more , keep it up , you're the best !
*Excellent build video James!* Just became a Patron! Now one more to add to my list of choices 🤪 I would love to see a comparison video for someone like me looking to step up to a bigger size. I have six machines on the list now.
James, Love your tutorials. The most significant is the "Easily pause, restart or recover your CNC job". I needed it several times. I purchased the PROVerXL 6050 Plus along with the monthly subscription of Carveco Maker. I am to the point where I can navigate pretty well. BUT one major show stopper I simply can not overcome which is Inlays. I watched every tutorial I can find, tried numerous variations such as reclassifying the bit, depths, offsets.... you name it. The problem is the inlays do not fit very well. Typically they engage only about half way at best. It seems like the more complex the inlay the less likely they fit. If I make simple carves like stars they fit fairly well. I now suspect the fact that my CNC does not have closed loop motors it might be possible that it skips a step (or steps) without knowing it? My question to you is: Is there a way to verify if any step was skipped?. For example if a project requires 4,551 steps and in the end there is somewhere in the program that shows the exact amount of steps when complete then it might explain the root cause. Had I known about closed loop CNC's I think I would have reached in my pocket a little deeper.
I miss your 3018 training and update. I don't have any room for something as big as that and can't afford it. But keep up the good work and all the best.
Thanks James. I bought my 3018 the same time you started doing your reviews on the 3018. And I'm still using it I've only updated the motor and put a laser on it. You can do so much with it for a small machine. And I do still enjoy the other reviews you do. Thanks
Good morning 🌅, James , I have just been watching your assembly instructions, if I may ask you a few questions, please, I run a Mac system, I’m not very good at computers, I’ve heard that these machines and things similar run better on a PC, is it better for me to pick up a cheap PC for, ? , i’ve seen you do reviews on other machines., what make model would you recommend, ? . I am a retired specialist joiner cabinet maker, and over the last five or six years, I’ve been getting into more into Woodturning, And I see some of these machines can do cylindrical work, I would like to be able to machine wood metal plastic, et cetera, and this is going to be a big learning curve for me, If you can advise, be very much appreciated , And I live in France, though I am English and been living there for the last five years,
Hey James, I bought this machine. I asked in another video how to flip the home position to left front. I can’t find the answer you gave me. So how do I do it and do I have to invert the x & y axis when I do that. Thx. Great video.
hi, would the 6050 be a better choice for milling aluminium, I asked before about the 3030, the alloy parts are for RC trucks, etc, and don't have to be micron perfect + - .1 or .2 of a millimeter is ok. Would 6050 be a better choice over the 3030 I appreciate the advice and thank you
Great video, it's definitely a big beast. One trick ifound on my 4030 couplings was to separate the 2 segments & secure to the D shafts, then use the thumb wheel to turn & align the segments & slide into position. Shame they put the Steppers on the back again. Don't get know how difficult to access when inside a sound box??
Wotcha James. Great videos! I’ve watched single everyone several times over the. Past couple of months. Made me mind up now and got a quote from Hong for the 60/50 to beat her with the 20w laser. I will basically be using it to make drawers and door panels plus chess boards. Is this machine with laser appropriate for this work? Your advice would be very much appreciated. Cheers. Brian
Great Video once again. Thank you. Given this one was 8-months ago and with the recent release of the ProverXL 4030 V2 do you have any insight on the probability a V2 of the 6050 Plus in the near future? I have the 4040 Pro but would love a 6050 Plus.
Still using the same 10mm axis screws from the 4030 Prover. Interested to see how the single Y axis holds up with all that weight. Silverback and Foxalien use 14/16mm on their 6060s.
Great machine! This is more like it! @13:24 Top-Tip; Don't use a Philips nr.1 screwdriver in a nr.2 bolt!! Use the correct size, that way you won't destroy the bolt head, and have stupid problems even before you turn it on!
Hi there and thank you for your informative videos. I am considering taking the plunge into CNC routers (I have a CNC Laser at the moment.) I am torn between the ProVer XL 6050 and the YoraHome Silverback CNC. You mentioned putting out a comparison; do you know when that video will be available. I am ready to purchase but would like to hear your thoughts before moving forward. Thank you
Excellent video James! First assembly video I've seen is for this machine. I am very curious to hear your thoughts on this machine compared to the Proverxl 4030. I found the rubber feet and gaskets for the stepper motors interesting and I wonder if the Proverxl 4030 might benefit from something similar..
Thank you for great video. Very helpful. My first CNC machine, will assemble soon. Three questions: Do you recommend unscrewing and applying blue Loctite on screws of the preassembled parts? Should I apply Loctite on the set screws of the couplers (difficult to remove)? And should I pre-lubricate with PTFE, and which parts need it (some will be hard to reach later)? Thanks.
From what I could see a lot of preinstalled bolts already have a form of loctite on so hopefully you shouldnt need to take any out. Yes loctite can help on the set screws but only use the blue one, nothing stronger. Yes, you should also lubricate the lead screws on each axis
I’m a little worried. Installing the coupler on the lead screw and it seems to stick out a bit further than the one in your video. I’ve made sure both bearing are seated as much as possible. Hopefully they didn’t send me a lead screw that was too long?
Hi! Thanks for the Video. Please compare it to the Foxalien Vasto. I am looking to buy a CNC this size for mostly Aluminium and Carbon Fiber milling and dont know which route to go. Thanks!
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thanks for the reply! Are you planning on doing a Video about a comparison? I think it would help a lot of people, and if you explain your recommendations and the backgrounds, then even more people would profit. best regards :)
bonjour, j ai ma genmitsu 4030 depuis 1 an et c est une bonne machine. je l utilise comme fraiseuse alu principalement et avec vectric desktop comme logiciel de creation et ensuite grbl candle. je fraise des épaisseur de 20 mm avec des fraises dlc de 3 mm. pour ce qui est de la 6050 plus elle ne m'interesse pas car en connaisseur je vois beaucoup de points fragiles dans sa construction dont sa vis unique en y. et ses points d 'encrage sur les plaques latérales. la 4030 et mieux concue et tres precise. je travaille tous les jours avec pour développer des pieces aéro dans de la matiere t3 et t5 en alu.
Hello to you, it’s in French, I apologize! I was very excited about your video, I know the 4030 but the 6050 brings a lot, that’s what I was looking for. I have a question for you: I use the VCarve Desktop software to export files under Fusion 360, is this possible for the 6050?. And is there a European dealer to avoid paying customs taxes? THANKS to you, if you can do the translation and give me an answer, that would be cool!!! .
Salut, Oui, la machine fonctionnera avec Fusion 360 et VCarve. Pour le moment, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait un fournisseur local. Ils viendront probablement de Chine dans un premier temps, puis plus tard dans l'année ou au début de l'année prochaine, ils pourraient avoir des stocks sur Amazon.
Genmitsu now do their own 1.25hp router which is just as good as a DeWalt and fits in the 65mm bracket supplied with the machine. Half the price and just looks better being same brand as machine
Don't get the 1.25 one, get the 710w router they make. The difference is the 710w model comes with an ER11 collet which is more versatile shrsl.com/4kw0o
@@JamesDeanDesigns yeah i didn't see that lol. I ended up buying some 1/4 to 1/8 collet adapters which were pretty cheap. seen people use them with makita routers and these are basically the same (the instruction booklet even has a diagram with makita written on the router haha)
Don't use red loctite... So strong and chemicals don't affect it, if you need to remove bolts to upgrade/replace parts, you'll basically need a small torch. Used the red on my 3D Printer and learned my lesson. Stick with blue. 😉
Bonjour à toi, c'est en français, je m'en excuse ! ta vidéo m'a beaucoup enthousiasmé, je connais la 4030 mais la 6050 apporte beaucoup, c'est ce que je cherchais. J'ai une question à te faire : j'utilise le logiciel VCarve Desktop pour export de fichiers sous Fusion 360, est ce que cela est possible pour la 6050 ?. Et y a-t-il un revendeur européen pour éviter de payer les taxes de douane ? MERCI à toi, si tu peux faire la traduction et de me donner une réponse, ça serait cool !!! . 👍
Wow I wish mine would have worked that easily! Four days in and it Still shits the bed when I press play. 😢 Error code after errors code. But no place, I know of for troubleshooting help. UNBELIEVABLE
No issue with the hardware too bad I can’t say the same for their support. Not responding to your emails when you need assistance is unacceptable. I put it back in the box and returned it.
That's a shame to hear. Their customer support is usually brilliant. There always a slight delay due to timezones and stuff but sorry it didn't work out
Merci pour ta réponse rapide. J'ai compris, pour toi, ce n'était pas facile quand c'est une langue étrangère. Sur le site SAINSMART? Je peux faire une pré-commande, il faudra que j'ajoute les frais de douane. Mais Bon ! le désir n'a pas de prix. Thank you for your quick answer. I understood, for you, it was not easy when it is a foreign language. On the site SAINSMART? I can make a pre-order, I will have to add the customs fees. But Ok ! the desire has no price.
Merci pour ta réponse rapide. J'ai compris, pour toi, ce n'était pas facile quand c'est une langue étrangère. Sur le site SAINSMART? Je peux faire une pré-commande, il faudra que j'ajoute les frais de douane. Mais Bon ! le désir n'a pas de prix.👍👍👍
This video made assembling my 6050 so easy. I can't thank you enough!
Glad it helped 👍
I can't wait for Sunday. Mine comes then and I'll be watching this again to put mine together. Thank you for taking the time!
I am about to take the plunge! And I have narrowed it down to this machine. I have watched many of your beginner videos and tutorials. Some twice. Your videos have played a big part in my decision. Thank so much for the excellent videos and the time it takes to produce them.
its a great machine, and im sure youll love it :)
No technical support phone number! Don't say you weren't warned
@@JamesDeanDesignsfour days in and still can't get it to function properly 😢 ready to send it back, but would rather use it
Wow I wish mine would have worked that easily! Four days in and it Still shits the bed when I press play.
@@everyonelovesLewi if your on Facebook, then join the Sainsmart group. You'll get much more support in there (and I'll likely see your issues faster as well). What issue are you having?
New to cnc, thank you so much , you saved me from throwing this machine out the window . Look forward to learning more , keep it up , you're the best !
I just got my 6050 Pro put together last night. Today...connecting computer and testing.
*Excellent build video James!* Just became a Patron! Now one more to add to my list of choices 🤪 I would love to see a comparison video for someone like me looking to step up to a bigger size. I have six machines on the list now.
James, Love your tutorials. The most significant is the "Easily pause, restart or recover your CNC job". I needed it several times.
I purchased the PROVerXL 6050 Plus along with the monthly subscription of Carveco Maker. I am to the point where I can navigate pretty well. BUT one major show stopper I simply can not overcome which is Inlays. I watched every tutorial I can find, tried numerous variations such as reclassifying the bit, depths, offsets.... you name it. The problem is the inlays do not fit very well. Typically they engage only about half way at best. It seems like the more complex the inlay the less likely they fit. If I make simple carves like stars they fit fairly well.
I now suspect the fact that my CNC does not have closed loop motors it might be possible that it skips a step (or steps) without knowing it? My question to you is: Is there a way to verify if any step was skipped?. For example if a project requires 4,551 steps and in the end there is somewhere in the program that shows the exact amount of steps when complete then it might explain the root cause. Had I known about closed loop CNC's I think I would have reached in my pocket a little deeper.
Fantastic video JD! Thank you very much.
Glad you liked it!
I miss your 3018 training and update. I don't have any room for something as big as that and can't afford it. But keep up the good work and all the best.
I will be getting back to the 3018 at some point I promise
Nice one thanks 😊
Thanks James.
I bought my 3018 the same time you started doing your reviews on the 3018. And I'm still using it I've only updated the motor and put a laser on it. You can do so much with it for a small machine.
And I do still enjoy the other reviews you do. Thanks
THANKS James.Excellent build video
Thank you so much. Great video.
Good morning 🌅, James , I have just been watching your assembly instructions, if I may ask you a few questions, please, I run a Mac system, I’m not very good at computers, I’ve heard that these machines and things similar run better on a PC, is it better for me to pick up a cheap PC for, ? , i’ve seen you do reviews on other machines., what make model would you recommend, ? . I am a retired specialist joiner cabinet maker, and over the last five or six years, I’ve been getting into more into Woodturning, And I see some of these machines can do cylindrical work, I would like to be able to machine wood metal plastic, et cetera, and this is going to be a big learning curve for me,
If you can advise, be very much appreciated , And I live in France, though I am English and been living there for the last five years,
Just received mine today!
Poor bastard😂 good luck
Hey James, I bought this machine. I asked in another video how to flip the home position to left front. I can’t find the answer you gave me. So how do I do it and do I have to invert the x & y axis when I do that. Thx. Great video.
James, will this good looking CNC mahane with inlay in cutting boards, hard wood as well?
hi, would the 6050 be a better choice for milling aluminium, I asked before about the 3030, the alloy parts are for RC trucks, etc, and don't have to be micron perfect + - .1 or .2 of a millimeter is ok. Would 6050 be a better choice over the 3030 I appreciate the advice and thank you
Great video, it's definitely a big beast. One trick ifound on my 4030 couplings was to separate the 2 segments & secure to the D shafts, then use the thumb wheel to turn & align the segments & slide into position.
Shame they put the Steppers on the back again. Don't get know how difficult to access when inside a sound box??
Wotcha James. Great videos! I’ve watched single everyone several times over the. Past couple of months. Made me mind up now and got a quote from Hong for the 60/50 to beat her with the 20w laser. I will basically be using it to make drawers and door panels plus chess boards. Is this machine with laser appropriate for this work? Your advice would be very much appreciated. Cheers. Brian
Great Video once again. Thank you.
Given this one was 8-months ago and with the recent release of the ProverXL 4030 V2 do you have any insight on the probability a V2 of the 6050 Plus in the near future?
I have the 4040 Pro but would love a 6050 Plus.
Still using the same 10mm axis screws from the 4030 Prover. Interested to see how the single Y axis holds up with all that weight. Silverback and Foxalien use 14/16mm on their 6060s.
Great machine! This is more like it!
@13:24 Top-Tip; Don't use a Philips nr.1 screwdriver in a nr.2 bolt!! Use the correct size, that way you won't destroy the bolt head, and have stupid problems even before you turn it on!
Normally I would but I was trying to use the cheap screwdriver that was provided in the kit 😄
@@JamesDeanDesigns 😁 They shouldn't have supplied it then! 😉
Hi there and thank you for your informative videos. I am considering taking the plunge into CNC routers (I have a CNC Laser at the moment.) I am torn between the ProVer XL 6050 and the YoraHome Silverback CNC. You mentioned putting out a comparison; do you know when that video will be available. I am ready to purchase but would like to hear your thoughts before moving forward.
Thank you
Excellent video James! First assembly video I've seen is for this machine. I am very curious to hear your thoughts on this machine compared to the Proverxl 4030. I found the rubber feet and gaskets for the stepper motors interesting and I wonder if the Proverxl 4030 might benefit from something similar..
The so called instructions say it operates smoother without the rubber feet.
Quick question. The directions said the if I installed the rubber feet the router wouldn't be as stable so should I install them or not?
The feet make it easier to move. And you don't want that. That being said, you could router out some feet holes in a sheet of MDF so they drop in
Yes, I just did the translation in English to have a hope of an answer. Thank You.
How did you set up the deepness of the engraving? Did I missed it? 🤔
Thank you for great video. Very helpful. My first CNC machine, will assemble soon. Three questions: Do you recommend unscrewing and applying blue Loctite on screws of the preassembled parts? Should I apply Loctite on the set screws of the couplers (difficult to remove)? And should I pre-lubricate with PTFE, and which parts need it (some will be hard to reach later)? Thanks.
From what I could see a lot of preinstalled bolts already have a form of loctite on so hopefully you shouldnt need to take any out. Yes loctite can help on the set screws but only use the blue one, nothing stronger. Yes, you should also lubricate the lead screws on each axis
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thank you
Hi James, do you still have the test file for download?
I’m a little worried. Installing the coupler on the lead screw and it seems to stick out a bit further than the one in your video. I’ve made sure both bearing are seated as much as possible. Hopefully they didn’t send me a lead screw that was too long?
Turn it around?
Hi! Thanks for the Video. Please compare it to the Foxalien Vasto. I am looking to buy a CNC this size for mostly Aluminium and Carbon Fiber milling and dont know which route to go. Thanks!
I've not really done any testing with this yet but my initial thoughts are that the Vasto is still likely to be better other than the flex in the bed.
@@JamesDeanDesigns Thanks for the reply! Are you planning on doing a Video about a comparison? I think it would help a lot of people, and if you explain your recommendations and the backgrounds, then even more people would profit. best regards :)
bonjour,
j ai ma genmitsu 4030 depuis 1 an et c est une bonne machine. je l utilise comme fraiseuse alu principalement et avec vectric desktop comme logiciel de creation et ensuite grbl candle. je fraise des épaisseur de 20 mm avec des fraises dlc de 3 mm. pour ce qui est de la 6050 plus elle ne m'interesse pas car en connaisseur je vois beaucoup de points fragiles dans sa construction dont sa vis unique en y. et ses points d 'encrage sur les plaques latérales. la 4030 et mieux concue et tres precise. je travaille tous les jours avec pour développer des pieces aéro dans de la matiere t3 et t5 en alu.
Hello to you, it’s in French, I apologize! I was very excited about your video, I know the 4030 but the 6050 brings a lot, that’s what I was looking for. I have a question for you: I use the VCarve Desktop software to export files under Fusion 360, is this possible for the 6050?. And is there a European dealer to avoid paying customs taxes? THANKS to you, if you can do the translation and give me an answer, that would be cool!!! .
Salut,
Oui, la machine fonctionnera avec Fusion 360 et VCarve.
Pour le moment, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait un fournisseur local. Ils viendront probablement de Chine dans un premier temps, puis plus tard dans l'année ou au début de l'année prochaine, ils pourraient avoir des stocks sur Amazon.
Genmitsu now do their own 1.25hp router which is just as good as a DeWalt and fits in the 65mm bracket supplied with the machine. Half the price and just looks better being same brand as machine
Don't get the 1.25 one, get the 710w router they make. The difference is the 710w model comes with an ER11 collet which is more versatile shrsl.com/4kw0o
@@JamesDeanDesigns yeah i didn't see that lol. I ended up buying some 1/4 to 1/8 collet adapters which were pretty cheap. seen people use them with makita routers and these are basically the same (the instruction booklet even has a diagram with makita written on the router haha)
@@JamesDeanDesigns really appreciate your videos pal. i knew nothing about cnc and your instructions are on point - thank you =)
@matthewbaker2573 yeh the inserts work really well, they are what I use on my Makita 👍
Don't use red loctite... So strong and chemicals don't affect it, if you need to remove bolts to upgrade/replace parts, you'll basically need a small torch. Used the red on my 3D Printer and learned my lesson. Stick with blue. 😉
Bonjour à toi, c'est en français, je m'en excuse ! ta vidéo m'a beaucoup enthousiasmé, je connais la 4030 mais la 6050 apporte beaucoup, c'est ce que je cherchais. J'ai une question à te faire : j'utilise le logiciel VCarve Desktop pour export de fichiers sous Fusion 360, est ce que cela est possible pour la 6050 ?. Et y a-t-il un revendeur européen pour éviter de payer les taxes de douane ? MERCI à toi, si tu peux faire la traduction et de me donner une réponse, ça serait cool !!! . 👍
Wow I wish mine would have worked that easily! Four days in and it Still shits the bed when I press play. 😢 Error code after errors code. But no place, I know of for troubleshooting help.
UNBELIEVABLE
No issue with the hardware too bad I can’t say the same for their support. Not responding to your emails when you need assistance is unacceptable. I put it back in the box and returned it.
That's a shame to hear. Their customer support is usually brilliant. There always a slight delay due to timezones and stuff but sorry it didn't work out
Merci pour ta réponse rapide. J'ai compris, pour toi, ce n'était pas facile quand c'est une langue étrangère. Sur le site SAINSMART? Je peux faire une pré-commande, il faudra que j'ajoute les frais de douane. Mais Bon ! le désir n'a pas de prix.
Thank you for your quick answer. I understood, for you, it was not easy when it is a foreign language. On the site SAINSMART? I can make a pre-order, I will have to add the customs fees. But Ok ! the desire has no price.
Merci pour ta réponse rapide. J'ai compris, pour toi, ce n'était pas facile quand c'est une langue étrangère. Sur le site SAINSMART? Je peux faire une pré-commande, il faudra que j'ajoute les frais de douane. Mais Bon ! le désir n'a pas de prix.👍👍👍
ooh, first !
Is it just me or did you have a "shit-ton" of leftover screws after finishing assembly???
Genmitsu now provide spares just in case you lose/thread them. Result of customer feedback
Ce n'est pas grave, si ta réponse est en anglais.
Wotcha