Thank you for making this clear concise video on the different types of vices/holdfasts. It was just what I was looking for to make a decision on how to finish my bench.
Hi James, nice video on the different types and options for holding. I am working with a Doe's Foot. Are you familiar with it? For me I personally like it.
veritas bench pups are geniuse you get a tail vice fave vice and with some blocks of wood you can even do edge work it's only limitation is ends and with a leg vice you can also make a dog pop up in the end and use it as a tail vice
I got mine off of Craigslist. It has a half screw which is kind of like a quick release. these were common back in the 50s but not so much now. you can find them ar reTool stores from time to time.
Thanks for the awesome info James! I really need to modify my bench to have the dog holes go all the way through(I currently have drawers so opted to use lee valley prairie dogs which have springs on the bottom) for some hold downs.
just started cutting and gluing the beginning of my new workbench. cannot wait until it's done. told relatives I wanted holdfasts for christmas. they looked at me like i was crazy.
Hi james I was just looking at your hold fast and the one with the leafy shape on the end what size is that ( like how long is the arm and how much of a curve is in it? I was give some bright mild steel its 3/4 round bar and i want to forge to hold fast for my bench and when i seen yours i said i would like to make mine like that or if you can trace them on to paper maybe you could scan that and email it to me and i will make a vid on making them thanks justin
I just started reading, yesterday, the book "Workbenches: From Design & Theory to Construction & Use". In one section, the author lists a dozen or so activities that need fastening to the bench (e.g. Chiseling faces, Sanding, Adjusting Joinery) along with discussions on the first, second (up to fifth) best methods to do that job. I was disappointed there weren't nearly enough pictures, but this video really helps. Please go into more detail!
Thanks. i have the same book. A lot of good info there. I have done a few videos in each vice that go into more detail and have several more planned. if there is any particular one you want next let me know. thanks for watching.
Reading Christopher Schwarz' book on workbenches and withholding changed my work, and not just my woodworking. Even before I built a Roubo style bench I drilled a few 3/4" holes in my combo rolling table saw and work bench and made some simple wonder dogs or whatever they're called (bench dogs with a screw cross-drilled into the top). That and paired screw clamps for edge work held me over for quite a while.
Love that book! I was going back and forth on talking about "wonder Dogs" but decided not to talk about them for time sack and they are kind of a derivative of a mobile tail vice. but I will have to do a video on those at a future time. I am also wanting to do a future video on passive holding. Oh the fun of youtube format.
Good info. Trying to finish my bench up currently. Finding I probably shoulda spent the money for a good tail vice. The used face vice and the moxon style I built myself aren't turning out to well. Hopefully I'll figure out how to make them both work until I can afford a good one
Great explanation James. I think for me the best and most versatile solution may be dogs. BTW had my first genuinely satisfying planning experience finE shavings and a level surface very cool. LOL
Thanks James, You mentioned it in your dedicated Hold fast video but I would have given it a few seconds in this video and that is the small board with the birds mouth. Very effective Mine is only 3/8" thick so good for the majority of jobs without getting in the way.
There! I watched the entire 12 minutes again, where I really only come here for the intro joke......😂 Just kidding ofcourse James. Thumbs up for another very informative video. Maybe you'd like to consider a video on splitting logs with a froe. A somewhat forgotten tool even older than the good old handsaw. Greetings and salutations from Hans.
Thanks! that is very high on my list. that is one tool I have not yet ben able to afford when a decent one has popped up. I have worked with them on the past but have not had one of my own. I want to sd a video on riving lumber for a project. thanks again!
James!...the doe's foot...you had the holdfast on the table when that piece was falling off the stop!!!..i found out about it somewhere else but your viewers deserve to hear it from you! Nice video thanks!
hello from California! This video was awesome man. Just wanted to say thanks for going thru all options and ways of holding your work. Very beneficial and needed content.
Thank you, this video had a lot of information. I am getting ready to install a couple of vices in my work bench, now I have a better idea as to what I should be looking into. I was just thinking about an end vise with the stop attachment and drilling a few dog holes. but now I an going to re think this. Thank you again for this information. Blessings to you and your family
Great video, excellent presentation and information. Thank You for taking the time to make these videos. You are helping many of us to become better woodworkers.
thanks. I am in the prosses of restoring that one, but I might not be able to . several teeth are missing and the second man grip is all rusted out. but at 5 1/2' long it sure is a sweet saw.
Nope, I prefer vises to hold my work :) Jokes aside, they would help me a lot when making grooves or chopping... They are pretty far on my purchase list :/ The first thing on my list is a good rip saw beacuse a couple of days ago I need one desperately for some door trim... Now I'm in my bed, healing my back...
with a good tail vice they are less needed, but for me they are just fun. if you ever swing by the shop I could give you a saw or two. I have several in stock now.
that is why you would use a protection scrap, but even then you really have to hit it to put that much pressure on it. some people glue on leather feet to them.
so it seems like having a moxon for a face vise and using it also as a tail vise is pretty much the best all around choice and is fairly cheap and easy to make as well, i have a moxon that attaches to my bench (not as fancy as yours), when i work on the face of a borad i just put scraps undrneath it in my vise to elevate it above the jaws but u do need more clamping capasity for that
i'd prefer that to if i wasnt living in a small apartment, i have a VERY small workbench that's why my moxon is a separate unit, i was thinking about switching to a leg vice but thanks to you that moxon is gonna live to see another day
Awesome information great things to know.
Thanks Thom!
Thank you for making this clear concise video on the different types of vices/holdfasts. It was just what I was looking for to make a decision on how to finish my bench.
Good one James. BTW, didn't you have a bench hook, to hold your work for cross cut sawing?
yes, but I will cover that when I talk more about non-clamping work holding.
Thanks, my fault, missed the Vices in the description
not a problem. I have more videos planned then I will ever have time to put out!
I am not, and never have been, good with my hands. But, I admire those who are.
Hi James, nice video on the different types and options for holding. I am working with a Doe's Foot. Are you familiar with it? For me I personally like it.
Thanks. Ya those are fun. A lot of people really like them.
You sound just like Mark! Great video. I needed to rehear some of this :-)
Would you ever set up so you can work an edge with the plane vertical, rather than horizontal? Just curious.
Sure. There are 100 ways to do it. And everyone finds the way that works well for them in their situation.
veritas bench pups are geniuse you get a tail vice fave vice and with some blocks of wood you can even do edge work it's only limitation is ends and with a leg vice you can also make a dog pop up in the end and use it as a tail vice
Love those things. They really are a great little toy.
Hi, Where did you get your face vise from? Does it have a quick release mechanism? Thanks!
I got mine off of Craigslist. It has a half screw which is kind of like a quick release. these were common back in the 50s but not so much now. you can find them ar reTool stores from time to time.
Cool, thanks James!
sorry I can not be of more help there are not many places where you can get them any more.
Oh, no problem! it looked similar to a vise I am considering for a bench upgrade, so I thought I'd check with you.
Thanks for the awesome info James! I really need to modify my bench to have the dog holes go all the way through(I currently have drawers so opted to use lee valley prairie dogs which have springs on the bottom) for some hold downs.
there are pros and cons to both. most of mine go through, but some of them land on a stretcher or vice.
are you on leesh?
thath black sring in the first minit in the video
LOL. that is my sound cable. in this small shop it is just easier to use a cable then to go wireless.
just started cutting and gluing the beginning of my new workbench. cannot wait until it's done. told relatives I wanted holdfasts for christmas. they looked at me like i was crazy.
+Chad Hummel lol yup. My relatives don't understand it at all.
Hi james I was just looking at your hold fast and the one with the leafy shape on the end what size is that ( like how long is the arm and how much of a curve is in it? I was give some bright mild steel its 3/4 round bar and i want to forge to hold fast for my bench and when i seen yours i said i would like to make mine like that or if you can trace them on to paper maybe you could scan that and email it to me and i will make a vid on making them thanks justin
I can get you some measurements. send me an email to remind me and I will get those when I get back.
cool thanks very much
A clear explanation of options Sir, nice
+Daniel Solowiej Thanks. I love my vices!
You know if I was as good a woodworker as you, if I had the tools you have, if I were tech savvy to make videos, I too could make videos lol😂
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Awesome Maestro (Teacher) great Information my friend good job bro :)
+TJ'S WOODWORKING SHOP thanks. Glad you liked it.
Awesome info bro :)
Eu não eu não conheço você pessoalmente mas eu gosto muito do seu trabalho eu queria se você pudesse me doar uma plaina usada agradeceria muito
I just started reading, yesterday, the book "Workbenches: From Design & Theory to Construction & Use". In one section, the author lists a dozen or so activities that need fastening to the bench (e.g. Chiseling faces, Sanding, Adjusting Joinery) along with discussions on the first, second (up to fifth) best methods to do that job. I was disappointed there weren't nearly enough pictures, but this video really helps. Please go into more detail!
Thanks. i have the same book. A lot of good info there. I have done a few videos in each vice that go into more detail and have several more planned. if there is any particular one you want next let me know. thanks for watching.
Another good one. I have had a hankering to build something Roubo-esque for a while now. Perhaps a 2017 build.
Sweet! looking forward to seeing that video!
and here I watched your video thinking that it was about drinking smoking and wild women LOL. you meant woodworking vises. great video James
+Opa's Workshop lol. I show the world my vices.
Reading Christopher Schwarz' book on workbenches and withholding changed my work, and not just my woodworking. Even before I built a Roubo style bench I drilled a few 3/4" holes in my combo rolling table saw and work bench and made some simple wonder dogs or whatever they're called (bench dogs with a screw cross-drilled into the top). That and paired screw clamps for edge work held me over for quite a while.
Love that book! I was going back and forth on talking about "wonder Dogs" but decided not to talk about them for time sack and they are kind of a derivative of a mobile tail vice. but I will have to do a video on those at a future time. I am also wanting to do a future video on passive holding. Oh the fun of youtube format.
Good info. Trying to finish my bench up currently. Finding I probably shoulda spent the money for a good tail vice. The used face vice and the moxon style I built myself aren't turning out to well. Hopefully I'll figure out how to make them both work until I can afford a good one
one can never have too many vices. LOL good luck Adam!
Loads of info in this video for sure! I'm building a bench in the next few months and this video has really helped! Thanks James!
Sweet! looking forward to seeing that! that is going to be one beast of a top!
Hi there from Portugal,
Nice info :D
Obrigado(Thanks)
thanks!
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Great explanation James. I think for me the best and most versatile solution may be dogs. BTW had my first genuinely satisfying planning experience finE shavings and a level surface very cool. LOL
+Doc Darkness sweetness. That is what I like to hear. So much fun.
Thanks James, You mentioned it in your dedicated Hold fast video but I would have given it a few seconds in this video and that is the small board with the birds mouth. Very effective Mine is only 3/8" thick so good for the majority of jobs without getting in the way.
+Peter Compton I will be doing a video on passive holding and another on hand made holding tools.
There! I watched the entire 12 minutes again, where I really only come here for the intro joke......😂 Just kidding ofcourse James. Thumbs up for another very informative video. Maybe you'd like to consider a video on splitting logs with a froe. A somewhat forgotten tool even older than the good old handsaw. Greetings and salutations from Hans.
Thanks! that is very high on my list. that is one tool I have not yet ben able to afford when a decent one has popped up. I have worked with them on the past but have not had one of my own. I want to sd a video on riving lumber for a project. thanks again!
James!...the doe's foot...you had the holdfast on the table when that piece was falling off the stop!!!..i found out about it somewhere else but your viewers deserve to hear it from you! Nice video thanks!
+R C thanks. I have more videos planed to come.
hello from California! This video was awesome man. Just wanted to say thanks for going thru all options and ways of holding your work. Very beneficial and needed content.
Well thank you! that means a lot! more coming in the future.
Thank you, this video had a lot of information. I am getting ready to install a couple of vices in my work bench, now I have a better idea as to what I should be looking into. I was just thinking about an end vise with the stop attachment and drilling a few dog holes. but now I an going to re think this. Thank you again for this information. Blessings to you and your family
glad I could help. I would love to help you any way I can. Looking forward to seeing it.
Good.
What about using wedges with dogs ?
What is i have no money, and want to create my own solutions?
+Willem Kossen more videos to come. I want to do a whole video on passive holding and home made versions.
Great video, excellent presentation and information. Thank You for taking the time to make these videos. You are helping many of us to become better woodworkers.
Thanks Allen My pleasure I'll keep them coming
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Could you use the face vise for end work by placing the board (if not too wide) by placing it between the center screw and the parallel bars?
+Ernie Souza if it fits yes. I just like to keep the wood itself away from the greasy bars if at all possible. But you can definitely do that
Hey @Wood by Wright, let's see a video featuring that one man log saw featured on the bench there! I just got one and it's a whole new world!
thanks. I am in the prosses of restoring that one, but I might not be able to . several teeth are missing and the second man grip is all rusted out. but at 5 1/2' long it sure is a sweet saw.
bro LENSE CAP is the enemy
all of mi familia for 4 generacion is metal workers
that is cool!
Thx
Very helpful, James. Thanks.
thanks! glad I could help!
another great lesson!
+Cactus! workshop thanks man.
How can you even look at yourself in the mirror when you have all these vises? :D
Great video, James!
I lay it all out there for my audience!
Ha, Ha No morals or Conscience... ;0
Holdfasts? Really? Again? :D
I love love them. Do you have a pair?
Nope, I prefer vises to hold my work :)
Jokes aside, they would help me a lot when making grooves or chopping...
They are pretty far on my purchase list :/
The first thing on my list is a good rip saw beacuse a couple of days ago I need one desperately for some door trim...
Now I'm in my bed, healing my back...
with a good tail vice they are less needed, but for me they are just fun. if you ever swing by the shop I could give you a saw or two. I have several in stock now.
Yeah... That would be a huge swing from Serbia LOL
well for that distance I might give you two! LOL thanks man!
Don't the hold fasts leave marks on softer woods?
that is why you would use a protection scrap, but even then you really have to hit it to put that much pressure on it. some people glue on leather feet to them.
so it seems like having a moxon for a face vise and using it also as a tail vise is pretty much the best all around choice and is fairly cheap and easy to make as well, i have a moxon that attaches to my bench (not as fancy as yours), when i work on the face of a borad i just put scraps undrneath it in my vise to elevate it above the jaws but u do need more clamping capasity for that
cool video btw
+Dor shem-tov thanks. I ersonaly prefer a bunch of vices to one that can do all, but I am a bit odd. Lol
i'd prefer that to if i wasnt living in a small apartment, i have a VERY small workbench that's why my moxon is a separate unit, i was thinking about switching to a leg vice but thanks to you that moxon is gonna live to see another day
Thanks for the info James! 👍
any time! thanks for watching!