I think Franklin is a massive thinker, but has allowed emotions to throw him off in this last season of snowfall. A huge lesson to us all, to not get to emotionally attached to idols or we will surely run a risk of losing it all.
I disagree. He played the game without crossing anybody and allowed everybody to get rich. His uncle crossed him, Teddy crossed him and stole 70 million. Your emotions would get the best of you too to get back what you worked for
Honestly Louie ruined franklins life. He could’ve got out the game probably a couple years later but Louie decided to go straight to teddy who then robbed Franklin and then Louie didn’t even try to help Franklin
Power and BMF is just a super dramatized and romanticized version of gang/mob life. It serves its purpose since snowfall is super realistic and often a slow burner.
I tend to agree. Louie also has some of the same traits as Franklin and because of that and then wanting the same things they are easy rivals and sadly Jerome is right in the middle
Crazy thing is the most common thing ppl say in his situation is that “you’re gonna end up either dead or in jail” he got neither. And he’s actually “free” in his mind. Also he’s still free to bounce back like how Wanda and Mel did. And they bounced back from crack.. Waaay worse than alcohol.
@@em.5941 physcopaths don't understand or care about other people emotions. Franklin shows a capacity to understand and sometimes take into account other people's feelings, not enough to stop selling drugs to his people but still. This is what makes him a sociopath at best and definitely not a psychopath.
@@justaguy7831 psychopaths have a loss of empathy/consciousness, not a lack of anger and or aggressive behaviors which is an emotion. He is a sociopath, but he displays psychopathic behaviors as well.
It's kind of amazing how I started out rooting for Franklin, and by the end completely despise him. But at the same time I do also understand his arc, why he became like this, and that is the mark of absolutely brilliant writing in my opinion.
@@JcGross93 wasn’t he though? I think they’re literally on the same level with the same arc. He ruined many lives with his meth, caused numerous deaths - intentional and unintentional, gave up Jesse to white supremacists, let Jesse’s gf die, got Hank unalived, had Jesse kill (I forgot his name - the other meth guy that Gus hired), an innocent guy who looked up to him just so Gustavo was forced to work with him. I would almost say that Walter was worst but at this point they’ve both done such significant destruction due to their narcissism they may as well be the same person. At the very LEAST Franklin stayed somewhat loyal to…? Eh nvm.
@@isattathecreator You must be kidding. Walter went back for Jessie, only killed when absolutely necessary, did what he did for his family, and tried to save Hank to the very end, even offering an enormous amount of money for his life. Plus, he didn't care about himself as he was dying of cancer. Franklin on the other hand did what he did for himself, out of greed, and was ready and willing to burn every bridge just to get his way. He turned on friends, family, even his wife. Didn't truly love anybody, and every relationship in his life was just an account book of what you get and what you give. Three ending was superb with him loosing everything. Every loved one, friends and family alike. I think the two aren't even in the same league.
Lee talking to Frank while he's was locked up was deep! Lee couldn't take it seeing his nonviolent friend all beat up.. what asked Franklin to do was crazy, and Franklin did
To me that was the moment he really changed after he got his shoes back from the Mexican guy and told Ray Ray and his boys he’ll have their families killed if they ever stepped to him again
@@jakejones3269that literally is when he changed. Or that was the preview of season 4 Franklin and on. When push comes to shove Franklin will go down deep
whole time bro talks like he lives on the other side of the world. talk about dedicated. nigga is really a british man that has a british accent dat perfected a south central accent.
This show is addicting man, I remember first starting it and I couldn’t stop. It had the right amount of intensity, with interesting characters and development along with a nice era we can all look back upon with strange nostalgia. Honestly it’s one of my favorite crime shows, I put it up there with the wire
@@redpanda7071 just finished the wire it's the best written crime show. Not my favourite show oat but the writing and acting is just perfect. Its worth the watch
E X A C T L Y. Plus Psychopaths (because of an off wiring in their brain) can never be sympathetic to others..they don't have a sense of loyalty. They do not care about anyone else but themselves. So in this case, if Saint truly was a psychopath, he wouldn't care about Leon, his girl and baby, nor his mom. They lack an ability to produce emotion. A sociopath is more like the term for him where he became who is now through experience, environment, etc...
I don’t think pycophaty is a born trait but It can be but that’s not alway the case anybody can go from being a normal person to becoming a psychopath with what they seem on been threw in life it’s all about emotions
Franklin is probably the one drug dealer that has compassion he could’ve and should’ve killed Mel he’s working for the CIA he’s scared he even admitted it in season 4 psychopaths don’t show Marcy or have fear if he’s off his game the CIA is gonna kill him and his family so he has to think about business at all times he kept everybody save up until when they turn then he became a demon Franklin had a plan to leave the game teddy made Franklin who he is today and season 6 he’s about to find himself again
I ain’t seen a show this good since breaking bad I was mad late I started watching it and by the time I got to season 3 I was hooked it’s one of my favorite television shows ever made
Louie is the worse. She doesn't accept accountability for her actions at all or for her greed and desire to be at the top. She, embodies how people in the drug game are and how they let that thirst consume them. She blames everything on Franklin, most of them do but they had a choice and they chose to follow him and some chose to oppose him. That led them to where they are now.
I felt the same at first but when I thought about it I realized that she was literally turning into Franklin. Everything you list here that you hate about Louie, Franklin is just as guilty. To me, it showcase how many and power corrupt absolutely and ruin families and relationships. They don't even realize how Teddy doesn't see Franklin as anything but a pawn and his community as nothing but trash whose sacrifice is worth giving "freedom" to some other country. Franklin and Louie didn't even realize it.
The finale prompted me to watch over and its even better seeing all the scenes etc etc that I forgot about that hinted or connected to little things in S6 episodes. This show is honestly even more amazing watching it back now
Wouldn’t Franklin be considered a sociopath instead of a psychopath? Sociopaths are created due to their environment. Franklin was brought up in an environment of drugs not crack but weed. But when he got into the game he started to become desensitized to the things he was doing. Remember the episode of when he first caused harm to someone he was shaking and worried about the consequences. But as he grew accustomed to what he does he became desensitized to the consequences. Yes some people are psychopaths people who are born without that autonomous response to things that cause excitement or fear or even discomfort. They don’t fear consequences. But a sociopath develops that. Am I wrong in that? Sociopaths and psychopaths are hand in hand when it comes to traits?
Phenomenal ending ,the series prior to the finale I gave it a 8 after the finale it’s a 10+,that’s the part of the drug game that’s very rarely spoken about ,when kingpins fall off and and never grab hold again ,and the highlight of there life is a 3-8 year run .
He’s such a great character and the actor who does him in the show is so excellent, but with that being said I’m rooting so hard against him. Hes ruined so many lives and has to pay (with whatever karma deems as the cost)
Every person that got in his way deserve to get stomped on it was once a time where franklin was a weak boi that grew sum balls so whoever gets in his way got to get stomped on
I get what you mean morally, but you have to look beyond morals when you actually experience the life of not only being poor but being poor and black…especially back then. People never acknowledge the rose that bloomed out from the cracks of concrete. He tried to go the right way… and yea he could’ve tried again, but it took years just to scratch the surface of this false sense of equality and opportunity for the minorities in America. All that he worked for, him bending over backwards for a system that wouldn’t even piss on him if he were on fire, his future ultimately setback for an unforeseeable future because he couldn’t afford it. Because his parents parents weren’t beneficiaries of slave labor corporations. Because he wasn’t privileged to be white. His actions may not be morally right but they are justified. Everything after his decision to create the ideal life for him and his was a means to an end. I can respect that coming from a similar situation. I would do WHATEVER I had to do to make sure me and mine are straight at WHATEVER or WHOEVER the cost because that’s AMERICA. As Tupac said, only slightly reworded… “When you reached your point and are tired of asking, nd after 40 years of asking for shit and all those who did the “right” thing are either dead or in jail… what do you expect us to do?” We asked with the Civil Rights Movement, we asked with the Black Panthers, and for a while before internal corruption we continued to ask with the BLM Movement ( whom I can no longer support)… I feel like it won’t end until we fight💯that’s what Cuba did. Win or lose at this point. America was built on oppression and racism, what makes you think they’d stop the formula that’s been working for them since the start. Stay woke
@Kush Habits I can't look past destroying his own people ain't enough money in the world would make me do something so evil ain't no excuse. He's no different from the Cia and white supremacy wanting to destroy black people he gotta go along with teddy and his auntie.
Loiue was the villain, she’s the reason Jerome got involved, stayed involved, went to war with his nephew and eventually got killed. She hurt franklins pockets by going behind his back with teddy
I see where you're coming from but in the grand scheme of things Franklin and Louie were just pawns used by the CIA. If they weren't around, I'm pretty sure the CIA would've just used some other drug dealers to flood the streets with coke. The real villain of this show is the United States government
I honestly don't think Franklin Gon get the happy ending he most likely Gon end up dead or in jail but he'll also probably win against Louie,jerome and teddy
Man Franklin is the humblest plug no doubt, he put his ppl on and tries to be cordial but ppl seem to push him 💯 but now that Leon is back and Jerome and Louie basically told him to get tf out the way, I’m curious on how they will solve this,AND WHERE TF IS PEACHES ??? 😂
@@HTGBigBanz Ik bro lol but Franklin bought his name up in this season finale so I’m kinda hoping we’ll find out somethin 😂 but yea he did take the money and dip
Leon Simmons has killed a lot of people too without really having mercy for them.The only time Leon shows a lack of empathy when killing someone is when he killed skully s daughter.Does that make Leon a psychopath?
I need one of these for Louie…and maybe even Jerome. I forgot Louie was a sherm head and I don’t remember Jerome being so weak for her. Wanna see if the writers made a gradual change like they did with Franklin
I wouldn’t say he is weak for her but he just knew she wasn’t that same sheen head from 4-5 years ago. His respect lvl for her changed hence he put a ring on it. She is a vile mf tho. Lol
Their are no villains or heroes. Just tragic characters who made dumb decisions. Franklin started all of this when he beought that yayo in the family business. Jerome warned him about it but he didn’t listen.
I also think dat others around him created him though like with Aunt Louie goin the route she did last season and I mean to be real using Jerome as a pawn against his family Franklin often tries other solutions before he does what he know he had to do from the jump
I feel like with Franklin it's similar to the Diathesis-stress model, the traits are innate but it took money to start coming in for him to reveal these traits he had all along. However I also believe there's a chance of sociopathy, but we don't really see him be influenced by anyone to be "created", he just became what he is, so I'm 60/40
I think i stopped siding with Franklin when he killed Officer Wright. Too cold. But it was more about the fact that he wanted to set it up as a suicide with his own gun. Too cold for me to continue to side with Franklin at that point
I think it's important to point out when he took the store from the older couple. That was small but spoke volumes about the change of his character arc.
Well I can immediately answer the question at the start no he's not a psychopath Psychopaths are born the way they are they can't change because it's just the way way their brain is developed Franklin clearly became the way he is overtime and he's clearly a sociopath
He was never innocent, he wanted that money he wanted that power, he is smart he understands all he has to go through to achieve the greatness he desires, 70 million and he didn't want to retire, it took teddy to actually make him want to stop but he never really wanted to stop, the game excites him. I just don't know why he doesn't see his wife and her mom are playing him. They bout to spin with his money
i feel like if anyone who comes from poverty or a poor/lower middle class family into franklin’s shoes then they would act similar. would you rather work, be rich, and powerful or just be rich knowing you can get stripped of everything you have
Snowfall attempts to be an interesting gangster tale, but I believe the heavy-handed social messaging, including references to Africa, BLM pamphlets, and seemingly forced romantic relationships for every "hardcore" character, detracted from the story. These elements felt like they were inserted solely to serve the producers' agenda, rather than organically arising from the narrative. This resulted in season 3's logical progression being abandoned in favor of a contrived plot hook, and established character development being contradicted in seasons 5 and 6. I felt manipulated by the constant barrage of political commentary in each episode. It was also frustrating to see the characters making illogical decisions, especially considering their supposedly difficult experiences. It felt like the writers were simply playing us, the viewers.
I love this show out of all the shows similar to it just no match. The way they show all sides of the game tell the truth about who started putting it on the streets the straight history of it. Makes it so watchable it has a message every character has a purpose and a lesson. It’s not as glorifying the game as these other shows it’s really a message.
Selfish, greedy, egotistical, murder, smart, relentless, heartless character maybe ever written. He went from buying the ice cream truck out for the block. To the kids now not accepting cash to buy something off the ice cream truck.
Glad I came across this video! I’ve always found it interesting how Franklin remains sober 99% of the time and has no interest in drugs only money. Do you feel that’s more of a fantasy element or a realistic component to his character?
You’ll find allot of people from his occupation(wouldn’t say most) will be sober for the most part… just the lifestyle really and their determination and hunger to get to the money fueling them.. it’s a high
respectfully it’s not his fault people are getting addicted to rock, yes he is supplying but he’s not responsible for them and it’s their own choice to buy it and smoke it. It’s their fault for making bad decisions.
This goes back to what Leon said in Ghana 🇬🇭 If you gave a slave a choice to leave they would run. Getting people hooked on something so addictive is worse way worse cuz they’ll keep coming back till they lose everything then die
He put too much trust in Reed. That was his biggest downfall. He should’ve hid his money from the jump not letting Reed know anything even tho I believe Reed would’ve tortured or killed him in that instance but he wasn’t letting him walk scott free. Basically Saint was fxcked from the beginning🤷🏾♂️
Just watched snowfall and man. I have never seena sho like that. Every character was amazing and DAmson idris is just insae. No w I want to be like him
This is a masterpiece. I feel like I know all the ins and outs of the show without even having watched. I knew better than to get hooked to this show. Hollywood isnt a fan of happy endings these days. Great job.
Thank you so much, J. Wisdom, for creating a video topic, and analysis of Franklin Saint's dark psychology. Damson Idris plays Franklin Saint so effortlessly, and perfection. Snowfall is one of my favorite shows on television. And by the way, do you think that you can do a video topic, and analysis of the character Frank Martin from The Transporter movies.
Appreciate it Malcom 🙏Damson is a very talented actor indeed, one of the best. I still haven't actually watched The Transporter movies but I'll look into it for the future👍
Lol man, plz keep in mind this is 80s or 70s the mind set of a black man needs to be taken into consideration. Money , society, people, police, image, wealth. All things that created Saint. Our environments + government made SAINT. Give him the same opportunity, neighborhood and role models as a white man at the timeand let’s how he turns out
Power and Snowfall ain't on the same level. Snowfall got better writing and is more grounded in reality. You think a targeted drug dealer by the government could actually be considered a political candidate? That shit is fantasy
@@jesussinaloa9300 bro I didn’t say anything about them being on the same level or not??? I said I enjoy the way Franklin says business the same way I enjoy the way Tommy says Ghost
They made it really hard to like Teddy sometimes 😂 I just don’t understand why Cissy would have shot Teddy out of anything other than anger at what he had just said, I don’t think she was ‘protecting Franklin from the money’ idk
If you watched till the end of the video you'll see him bring thag up how he got betrayed by everyone close to him (Louie and Teddy) but you should acknowledge that Franklin's pride and greed also played a part in his downfall too, and ultimately the drug game changed him for the worse. It's okay to root for him, I love Franklin myself because he's a phenomenaly written character and a great anti hero but we shouldn't pretend he's a good guy by the end of the series.
He killed innocent ppl and ruined lives. Who cares if Louie and Teddy crossed him. Everyone else was there with him Until HE pushed them away like his mother
Franklin is like this crackhead in my hood.. you would never know he was making millions when he was selling crack.. he wound up smoking a rock and lost everything
After watching the season finale, I'm definitely making a part 2 in the coming weeks. Make sure you're subscribed you won't wanna miss it...
I waS about to say cause this last episode finally brought out that psychopath in Franklin.
The downfall of Franklin lol
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everyone he tried to help betrayed him......
Snow fall is easily one of the best series I've ever seen
Ever 💯 Number 1 show of all time fashoo
Just found the show this year. Also it's the first show in ages I've binged. It held me all the way through and I'm hyped to see how it all ends.
No questions asked.
It top 5 for sure but I would put
Breaking bad
Sons of anarchy
Shameless
Above snowfall just off top of my head
@@markenscastelly3810 power better but yeah
I think Franklin is a massive thinker, but has allowed emotions to throw him off in this last season of snowfall. A huge lesson to us all, to not get to emotionally attached to idols or we will surely run a risk of losing it all.
I disagree. He played the game without crossing anybody and allowed everybody to get rich. His uncle crossed him, Teddy crossed him and stole 70 million. Your emotions would get the best of you too to get back what you worked for
@@BWillTheAddict except manboy and skully
I would lose my cool 2 if I lost 73 million dollars in 1980s money.
he shoulda never got a gf... too much of a liability
@@mwoods4608 I think a part of him wanted a normal family life, but it wasn’t the best move for that lifestyle.
Honestly Louie ruined franklins life. He could’ve got out the game probably a couple years later but Louie decided to go straight to teddy who then robbed Franklin and then Louie didn’t even try to help Franklin
If it weren’t for Louie, Franklin would literally be dead. Also Franklin was literally willing to take a bullet to sell some crack be serious.
@@dolphinswilltakeoveri would too
@@dolphinswilltakeover but why would Franklin be dead
I surely hated her then 😂
Teddy was never gonna let Franklin keep the money
Snowfall is what power WANTS to be.
Agreed
Real funny
YES
power is more like young n the restless or a Tyler perry movie than an actual crime show.
Power and BMF is just a super dramatized and romanticized version of gang/mob life. It serves its purpose since snowfall is super realistic and often a slow burner.
Snowfall is one of the greatest shows of all time. And easily has some of the greatest character development in tv history.
Franklin Saint and Walter white Bcs they let the money get control over them
@@salimjamel6639 facts bro
Sad the way Franklin ended up a drunk man
@@CaliKidd1001 lol not sad just fake and unrealistic 😂 he never drank smoked or anything one soo wouldn’t do that to you
@@TheSpudster10he started drinking heavily in the finale which had a four year timeskip so wdym
I think Louie is afraid of Franklin and now is using Jerome as a shield of protection.
I tend to agree. Louie also has some of the same traits as Franklin and because of that and then wanting the same things they are easy rivals and sadly Jerome is right in the middle
FACTS
@@Jragon_Baller because he is his uncle and Louie’s husband he has to choose
Lol that much is obvious
Well not necessarily, Jerome is Franklin Definite family so it makes sense that between the two he is more likely to fix the situation.
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for somebody to decipher this show. Good work bro.
Appreciate it bro🙏🏼
Bro Fr aha snowfall is so underrated bro the first few seasons make me kind of emotional for some reason 😭
I'm saying
Crazy thing is the most common thing ppl say in his situation is that “you’re gonna end up either dead or in jail” he got neither. And he’s actually “free” in his mind. Also he’s still free to bounce back like how Wanda and Mel did. And they bounced back from crack.. Waaay worse than alcohol.
Franklin not a psychopath because he shows emotions plenty of times. A sociopath maybe but not a psychopath. There's a difference between the two.
You do know you can be both right? And being a psychopath does involve emotions.
@@em.5941 physcopaths don't understand or care about other people emotions. Franklin shows a capacity to understand and sometimes take into account other people's feelings, not enough to stop selling drugs to his people but still. This is what makes him a sociopath at best and definitely not a psychopath.
@@justaguy7831 psychopaths have a loss of empathy/consciousness, not a lack of anger and or aggressive behaviors which is an emotion. He is a sociopath, but he displays psychopathic behaviors as well.
@@em.5941 okay I see what you're saying but the video labels Franklin as a psychopath
@@justaguy7831 yeaaa this guy Def shoulda went with the more sociopath for the video
It's kind of amazing how I started out rooting for Franklin, and by the end completely despise him. But at the same time I do also understand his arc, why he became like this, and that is the mark of absolutely brilliant writing in my opinion.
Walter White
@@RSmith-wd7zr Walter was nowhere near this reprehensible.
@@JcGross93 wasn’t he though? I think they’re literally on the same level with the same arc. He ruined many lives with his meth, caused numerous deaths - intentional and unintentional, gave up Jesse to white supremacists, let Jesse’s gf die, got Hank unalived, had Jesse kill (I forgot his name - the other meth guy that Gus hired), an innocent guy who looked up to him just so Gustavo was forced to work with him.
I would almost say that Walter was worst but at this point they’ve both done such significant destruction due to their narcissism they may as well be the same person.
At the very LEAST Franklin stayed somewhat loyal to…? Eh nvm.
@@RSmith-wd7zr yassss I was just telling my boyfriend Franklin is Walter and Jesse put together
@@isattathecreator You must be kidding. Walter went back for Jessie, only killed when absolutely necessary, did what he did for his family, and tried to save Hank to the very end, even offering an enormous amount of money for his life. Plus, he didn't care about himself as he was dying of cancer.
Franklin on the other hand did what he did for himself, out of greed, and was ready and willing to burn every bridge just to get his way. He turned on friends, family, even his wife. Didn't truly love anybody, and every relationship in his life was just an account book of what you get and what you give. Three ending was superb with him loosing everything. Every loved one, friends and family alike.
I think the two aren't even in the same league.
I've been watching him since the summer of '83! The way he's transformed over the years makes you wonder if that was his character's fate.
Lee talking to Frank while he's was locked up was deep! Lee couldn't take it seeing his nonviolent friend all beat up.. what asked Franklin to do was crazy, and Franklin did
To me that was the moment he really changed after he got his shoes back from the Mexican guy and told Ray Ray and his boys he’ll have their families killed if they ever stepped to him again
@@jakejones3269that literally is when he changed. Or that was the preview of season 4 Franklin and on. When push comes to shove Franklin will go down deep
Damson portrayed Franklin better than anybody else could have. 💯
whole time bro talks like he lives on the other side of the world. talk about dedicated. nigga is really a british man that has a british accent dat perfected a south central accent.
Facts
@@kojodareaperI could have done better (I’m a fat loser who has never acted in my life)
His character development is crazy
Everyone character development is amazing. From Franklin to Skully
This show is addicting man, I remember first starting it and I couldn’t stop. It had the right amount of intensity, with interesting characters and development along with a nice era we can all look back upon with strange nostalgia.
Honestly it’s one of my favorite crime shows, I put it up there with the wire
for sure! it's in my top ten and a good rewatch!
is the wire any good
@@redpanda7071 just finished the wire it's the best written crime show. Not my favourite show oat but the writing and acting is just perfect. Its worth the watch
Can you believe I also cried when Jerome died ??!!! The whole day was a mess! How I love the saints, despite their …
@@redpanda7071 Watch it, and don't stop til you finish. It's worth the time.
Such an underrated show fr
Right.
Definitely !
Really underrated? Snowfall has crazy clout
@@JojoThoughtslot of shows do way more numbers , it’s popular in the black community tho
@@FTO9797 yup
Psychopathy is a born trait whereas sociopathy is learnt psychopathic behavior. Frank is exhibiting sociopathic behavior.
E X A C T L Y. Plus Psychopaths (because of an off wiring in their brain) can never be sympathetic to others..they don't have a sense of loyalty. They do not care about anyone else but themselves. So in this case, if Saint truly was a psychopath, he wouldn't care about Leon, his girl and baby, nor his mom. They lack an ability to produce emotion. A sociopath is more like the term for him where he became who is now through experience, environment, etc...
Pyschopathy isnt a born trait😂😂😂
I don’t think pycophaty is a born trait but It can be but that’s not alway the case anybody can go from being a normal person to becoming a psychopath with what they seem on been threw in life it’s all about emotions
@@benematundu1580 what u just described is literally sociopathy 💀
@@Bittah1daer yes it is lil bro
Franklin wit the Cane was sum else lol 😂
Ironically Mel shooting him put everything in motion for the current events.
I felt like he was suffering from psychosis towards the end of the series.
Franklin is probably the one drug dealer that has compassion he could’ve and should’ve killed Mel he’s working for the CIA he’s scared he even admitted it in season 4 psychopaths don’t show Marcy or have fear if he’s off his game the CIA is gonna kill him and his family so he has to think about business at all times he kept everybody save up until when they turn then he became a demon Franklin had a plan to leave the game teddy made Franklin who he is today and season 6 he’s about to find himself again
Na
@@Saint0999 you 5 months late 😭
Psychopaths LACK empathy but are still capable of feeling some level of empathy
This video makes me want to watch the whole series again
Ah I'm glad my bro🙏
@@JWisdomyea bro this was beautifully put, well done!
@@JWisdom please tell me what’s the song or sound u put in the beginning
I plan on it after the season final
The acting on this show is so extraordinary
I ain’t seen a show this good since breaking bad I was mad late I started watching it and by the time I got to season 3 I was hooked it’s one of my favorite television shows ever made
It’s up there with BB and the wire fro sure.
The Wire
The psychology of characters is interesting. I would love to see more.
right, i think it may be a good youtube series he should start
Louie is the worse. She doesn't accept accountability for her actions at all or for her greed and desire to be at the top. She, embodies how people in the drug game are and how they let that thirst consume them. She blames everything on Franklin, most of them do but they had a choice and they chose to follow him and some chose to oppose him. That led them to where they are now.
I just said this yesterday… its krazy. She doesnt see how her actions literally caused the death of jerome. Just placed all the blame on franklin.
@@theilleststylez5866 I was arguing with my friend that Franklin wasn’t the villain everybody around him was the villain
Franklin didn’t accept accountability either
I felt the same at first but when I thought about it I realized that she was literally turning into Franklin. Everything you list here that you hate about Louie, Franklin is just as guilty. To me, it showcase how many and power corrupt absolutely and ruin families and relationships. They don't even realize how Teddy doesn't see Franklin as anything but a pawn and his community as nothing but trash whose sacrifice is worth giving "freedom" to some other country. Franklin and Louie didn't even realize it.
@@Saint0999he’s admitted he’s a monster and a devil several times
It's pretty insane that this show gets snubbed from the major awards shows EVERY YEAR.
That Leon speech to Franklin in prison still gets me hype
The finale prompted me to watch over and its even better seeing all the scenes etc etc that I forgot about that hinted or connected to little things in S6 episodes. This show is honestly even more amazing watching it back now
well done video! perfect
Appreciate it man 🙏🏼 thank you
@@JWisdomcan you do video on Leon, Jerome, Louie, Cissy and Wanda?
When Franklin started talking sideways to Louie, I knew he was too far gone.
I loved that Avi charges Franklin 12K a key on his first pickup and 5 seasons later when he gets into Peaches’ safe, it’s only 12K in it 😂
Wouldn’t Franklin be considered a sociopath instead of a psychopath? Sociopaths are created due to their environment. Franklin was brought up in an environment of drugs not crack but weed. But when he got into the game he started to become desensitized to the things he was doing. Remember the episode of when he first caused harm to someone he was shaking and worried about the consequences. But as he grew accustomed to what he does he became desensitized to the consequences. Yes some people are psychopaths people who are born without that autonomous response to things that cause excitement or fear or even discomfort. They don’t fear consequences. But a sociopath develops that. Am I wrong in that? Sociopaths and psychopaths are hand in hand when it comes to traits?
Naw your correct
Phenomenal ending ,the series prior to the finale I gave it a 8 after the finale it’s a 10+,that’s the part of the drug game that’s very rarely spoken about ,when kingpins fall off and and never grab hold again ,and the highlight of there life is a 3-8 year run .
He’s such a great character and the actor who does him in the show is so excellent, but with that being said I’m rooting so hard against him. Hes ruined so many lives and has to pay (with whatever karma deems as the cost)
Every person that got in his way deserve to get stomped on it was once a time where franklin was a weak boi that grew sum balls so whoever gets in his way got to get stomped on
I get what you mean morally, but you have to look beyond morals when you actually experience the life of not only being poor but being poor and black…especially back then. People never acknowledge the rose that bloomed out from the cracks of concrete. He tried to go the right way… and yea he could’ve tried again, but it took years just to scratch the surface of this false sense of equality and opportunity for the minorities in America. All that he worked for, him bending over backwards for a system that wouldn’t even piss on him if he were on fire, his future ultimately setback for an unforeseeable future because he couldn’t afford it. Because his parents parents weren’t beneficiaries of slave labor corporations. Because he wasn’t privileged to be white. His actions may not be morally right but they are justified. Everything after his decision to create the ideal life for him and his was a means to an end. I can respect that coming from a similar situation. I would do WHATEVER I had to do to make sure me and mine are straight at WHATEVER or WHOEVER the cost because that’s AMERICA. As Tupac said, only slightly reworded… “When you reached your point and are tired of asking, nd after 40 years of asking for shit and all those who did the “right” thing are either dead or in jail… what do you expect us to do?” We asked with the Civil Rights Movement, we asked with the Black Panthers, and for a while before internal corruption we continued to ask with the BLM Movement ( whom I can no longer support)… I feel like it won’t end until we fight💯that’s what Cuba did. Win or lose at this point. America was built on oppression and racism, what makes you think they’d stop the formula that’s been working for them since the start. Stay woke
@@kushhabits4223 bro I'm nigga from Memphis Tennessee lol I get where u coming from
@Kush Habits I can't look past destroying his own people ain't enough money in the world would make me do something so evil ain't no excuse. He's no different from the Cia and white supremacy wanting to destroy black people he gotta go along with teddy and his auntie.
Hell nah
Teddy doesn’t know the monster he just let loose 😂 Great analysis
He knows now 😂😂😂 teddy vs Franklin is gonna be one of the best face offs in tv history.
Teddy won
@@iffysd9864 Did he tho?
@@champ1915 He may lost his life but he took down his empire took his money and turn Franklin just like his old man a drunk with no money
Wym by monster
It’s better than BMF and I’m inly in season 2
Ironically dudes last name is a saint, it’s interesting to see him go from a saint to a demon slowly
Loiue was the villain, she’s the reason Jerome got involved, stayed involved, went to war with his nephew and eventually got killed. She hurt franklins pockets by going behind his back with teddy
I see where you're coming from but in the grand scheme of things Franklin and Louie were just pawns used by the CIA. If they weren't around, I'm pretty sure the CIA would've just used some other drug dealers to flood the streets with coke. The real villain of this show is the United States government
Snowfall > Breaking bad
This 10x better then those goofy ass power spin offs😂
nbs😂
He just became a wolf and chess player
I honestly don't think Franklin Gon get the happy ending he most likely Gon end up dead or in jail but he'll also probably win against Louie,jerome and teddy
We really just glossing over the whole CIA and corrupt gov thing? 😂
Snowfall is what power wants to be
Almost everyone on Snowfall are sociopaths.
Man that’s not psychopathic behavior. That’s just GOOD BUSINESS 😤
moral of the story never get soft
If "Love's gonna get you killed. But Prides gonna be the death of you" was a person.
I see a lot of Denzel influence in Damson. Very promising young man. 💪🏿
This is exactly what is meant by the LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Money was his idol and he was willing to do anything to get it.
they trying my boy how you help everybody including the cia and Family but they turn on you I'll be slime just like him
You hear me 😂😂
Man Franklin is the humblest plug no doubt, he put his ppl on and tries to be cordial but ppl seem to push him 💯 but now that Leon is back and Jerome and Louie basically told him to get tf out the way, I’m curious on how they will solve this,AND WHERE TF IS PEACHES ??? 😂
Peaches been took their money then left he aint coming back or he dead fasho💯
@@HTGBigBanz Ik bro lol but Franklin bought his name up in this season finale so I’m kinda hoping we’ll find out somethin 😂 but yea he did take the money and dip
I think deray Davis wanted out the show good way to get him out the way without of having to see him die like he did white dude
@@maris6208 damn I can see that happening,I wonder why he wanted out
Peaches really ain’t have much dialogue he was kind of just extra
Leon Simmons has killed a lot of people too without really having mercy for them.The only time Leon shows a lack of empathy when killing someone is when he killed skully s daughter.Does that make Leon a psychopath?
such a shame if jerome taught franklin how to squabble this never would have happened😢
Teach ya man 🗣️
Best line in the series lmao, teach your man how to squabble!
great breakdown. you should go deep into the psych of some of the other characters too
Will do 🤝
I need one of these for Louie…and maybe even Jerome. I forgot Louie was a sherm head and I don’t remember Jerome being so weak for her. Wanna see if the writers made a gradual change like they did with Franklin
I wouldn’t say he is weak for her but he just knew she wasn’t that same sheen head from 4-5 years ago. His respect lvl for her changed hence he put a ring on it. She is a vile mf tho. Lol
Think we can all agree Louie is the villain of the series
Their are no villains or heroes. Just tragic characters who made dumb decisions. Franklin started all of this when he beought that yayo in the family business. Jerome warned him about it but he didn’t listen.
You should have waited to make this after the season was over
He’s making a part 2 🎉
Franklin should kill louie after killing teddy cus she will soon or later will set him up
Franklin is As American as any president. No difference.
In a way the show is kind of showing you that with the CIA being involved 😂
I also think dat others around him created him though like with Aunt Louie goin the route she did last season and I mean to be real using Jerome as a pawn against his family Franklin often tries other solutions before he does what he know he had to do from the jump
Now you have to do the downfall of Franklin saint since the show is done now
Crazy how his life turned out I think alot of us can relate good show frank deserves an award
I almost miss the jovial relationship Franklin and Teddy had. Just.....great writing
You can’t “become” a psychopath through trauma psychopaths are born sociopaths are created
I feel like with Franklin it's similar to the Diathesis-stress model, the traits are innate but it took money to start coming in for him to reveal these traits he had all along. However I also believe there's a chance of sociopathy, but we don't really see him be influenced by anyone to be "created", he just became what he is, so I'm 60/40
@@JWisdom shit bruh almost got robbed and seen smoke get shot right in front of him like that fuck me up too
Yesterdays episode could definitely be included in this documentation. I think it be great if you would create a update especially after Episode 9.
I think i stopped siding with Franklin when he killed Officer Wright. Too cold. But it was more about the fact that he wanted to set it up as a suicide with his own gun. Too cold for me to continue to side with Franklin at that point
Frank Saint, Walter White & Prince Zuko have the best character developments in my opinion
this show replaced the breaking bad universe as my #1 series
He turned to Leon and Leon turned to him. He started out with good intentions, talkin bout he wanna uplift his people and Lee did the reverse
I think it's important to point out when he took the store from the older couple. That was small but spoke volumes about the change of his character arc.
Nahhh 😂Bro got me pissed again like the stole 73 million from me
Well I can immediately answer the question at the start no he's not a psychopath
Psychopaths are born the way they are they can't change because it's just the way way their brain is developed
Franklin clearly became the way he is overtime and he's clearly a sociopath
He was never innocent, he wanted that money he wanted that power, he is smart he understands all he has to go through to achieve the greatness he desires, 70 million and he didn't want to retire, it took teddy to actually make him want to stop but he never really wanted to stop, the game excites him. I just don't know why he doesn't see his wife and her mom are playing him. They bout to spin with his money
i feel like if anyone who comes from poverty or a poor/lower middle class family into franklin’s shoes then they would act similar. would you rather work, be rich, and powerful or just be rich knowing you can get stripped of everything you have
Snowfall attempts to be an interesting gangster tale, but I believe the heavy-handed social messaging, including references to Africa, BLM pamphlets, and seemingly forced romantic relationships for every "hardcore" character, detracted from the story. These elements felt like they were inserted solely to serve the producers' agenda, rather than organically arising from the narrative. This resulted in season 3's logical progression being abandoned in favor of a contrived plot hook, and established character development being contradicted in seasons 5 and 6.
I felt manipulated by the constant barrage of political commentary in each episode. It was also frustrating to see the characters making illogical decisions, especially considering their supposedly difficult experiences. It felt like the writers were simply playing us, the viewers.
Looking forward to watching this tonight! Love to see the consistency brother 👏🏽
Appreciate it bro🙏🙏
I love this show out of all the shows similar to it just no match. The way they show all sides of the game tell the truth about who started putting it on the streets the straight history of it. Makes it so watchable it has a message every character has a purpose and a lesson. It’s not as glorifying the game as these other shows it’s really a message.
Selfish, greedy, egotistical, murder, smart, relentless, heartless character maybe ever written. He went from buying the ice cream truck out for the block. To the kids now not accepting cash to buy something off the ice cream truck.
completely skipped over that you know,crazy how things have changed,even his lack of empathy towards dallas after black diamond’s death
Glad I came across this video! I’ve always found it interesting how Franklin remains sober 99% of the time and has no interest in drugs only money. Do you feel that’s more of a fantasy element or a realistic component to his character?
I feel like it’s realistic, he’s always been ambitious compared to his peers and was never interested in drink/drugs
@@JWisdom and you can almost argue that he's not "sober" at all. Money and power is just his drug of choice
You’ll find allot of people from his occupation(wouldn’t say most) will be sober for the most part… just the lifestyle really and their determination and hunger to get to the money fueling them.. it’s a high
As well as the control and status and power
Have you seen the ending now? Haha
It’s crazy how I relate to Franklin to get out of the hood and be better….
I'm waiting for The VileEye Channel, to analyze Franklin Saint. Great video.
respectfully it’s not his fault people are getting addicted to rock, yes he is supplying but he’s not responsible for them and it’s their own choice to buy it and smoke it. It’s their fault for making bad decisions.
This goes back to what Leon said in Ghana 🇬🇭
If you gave a slave a choice to leave they would run. Getting people hooked on something so addictive is worse way worse cuz they’ll keep coming back till they lose everything then die
He put too much trust in Reed. That was his biggest downfall. He should’ve hid his money from the jump not letting Reed know anything even tho I believe Reed would’ve tortured or killed him in that instance but he wasn’t letting him walk scott free. Basically Saint was fxcked from the beginning🤷🏾♂️
Franklin isn't a psychopath. He was just doing what was necessary.
And to do that he had to become a psychopath
Killing people left and right even innocents…that indeed is a psychopath. Like what tf is wrong with you??
@@friendlyfire2374 ok buddy if you say so. I didn't need all that extra either goofball. Find the nearest exit tf out my comments
Exactly what a psychopath will say
@@barshorun1485 where did you get your psychology degree from? Lol I guess you could say the same of me. But I said it first 🤪😘
Just watched snowfall and man. I have never seena sho like that. Every character was amazing and DAmson idris is just insae. No w I want to be like him
That was a really good summary bro. My favourite show of all time
Glad you enjoyed it bro thank you 🙏🏼
I have an Idea. Characters from The Wire. It would benefit you as there are countless ways to analyse the show.
This is a masterpiece. I feel like I know all the ins and outs of the show without even having watched. I knew better than to get hooked to this show. Hollywood isnt a fan of happy endings these days. Great job.
Thank you so much, J. Wisdom, for creating a video topic, and analysis of Franklin Saint's dark psychology. Damson Idris plays Franklin Saint so effortlessly, and perfection. Snowfall is one of my favorite shows on television. And by the way, do you think that you can do a video topic, and analysis of the character Frank Martin from The Transporter movies.
Appreciate it Malcom 🙏Damson is a very talented actor indeed, one of the best. I still haven't actually watched The Transporter movies but I'll look into it for the future👍
And he looks so innocent !! That guy deserves an Emmy
Ain’t no way Ted McDonald is 29 🤣 I thought he was 36 minimum
40 tops he looks older
Lol man, plz keep in mind this is 80s or 70s the mind set of a black man needs to be taken into consideration. Money , society, people, police, image, wealth. All things that created Saint. Our environments + government made SAINT. Give him the same opportunity, neighborhood and role models as a white man at the timeand let’s how he turns out
umm if Franklin a "Psychopath" then WTF is Louie???????????????????????????
She’s worst than him
Why you keep talking about him being black? . No one is black. we have eyes have we can see what color they're skin is
Literally discovered this show a month ago. My husband and I have binged watch 5 seasons worth 😂 Best show ive seen in awhile.
Same girl SAME. Literally binged it for 2 to 3 days last week and I’m hooked. 🤣🤎
I find it funny how Franklin ended up exactly like his Father, the person he completely despised.
The way he says buisness hits the same part of my brain as Tommy Eagan saying Ghost.
Power and Snowfall ain't on the same level. Snowfall got better writing and is more grounded in reality. You think a targeted drug dealer by the government could actually be considered a political candidate? That shit is fantasy
@@jesussinaloa9300 bro I didn’t say anything about them being on the same level or not??? I said I enjoy the way Franklin says business the same way I enjoy the way Tommy says Ghost
*Bidness*
They made it really hard to like Teddy sometimes 😂 I just don’t understand why Cissy would have shot Teddy out of anything other than anger at what he had just said, I don’t think she was ‘protecting Franklin from the money’ idk
I absolutely love Franklin. Maybe I'm psycho myself 😊 & a lot of was left out. Franklin was crossed literally by EVERYONE close to him.
You’re not a psycho. You’re just utterly stupid.
If you watched till the end of the video you'll see him bring thag up how he got betrayed by everyone close to him (Louie and Teddy) but you should acknowledge that Franklin's pride and greed also played a part in his downfall too, and ultimately the drug game changed him for the worse. It's okay to root for him, I love Franklin myself because he's a phenomenaly written character and a great anti hero but we shouldn't pretend he's a good guy by the end of the series.
@Mr.McQueen_the_66th my friends wouldn’t be like that. 🤷🏽♂️
He killed innocent ppl and ruined lives. Who cares if Louie and Teddy crossed him. Everyone else was there with him Until HE pushed them away like his mother
@@kolt471he’s not an anti hero 😂
Franklin is like this crackhead in my hood.. you would never know he was making millions when he was selling crack.. he wound up smoking a rock and lost everything