The ASIAIR Plus will be available in November. Will you be switching/upgrading? Also... I think CUIV should be a regular technical advisor for this channel! :D
Sir, please you also capture the pictures of landscape photography as like Alyn Wallace and also make Astrovlog video like Alyn Wallace and upload videos on TH-cam "Please 🙏 Sir"
Naah. It's a nice set up and convenient, but being locked into ZWO products (even though they're good) doesn't sound appealing. I'll stick with my NUC and SGP or NINA.
I had been holding out on the ASIAir to wait for it to mature - and I think third time's the charm, as far as I can tell! I am impressed with how streamlined an experience it provides out of the box! It's now permanently on my smaller setup.... Until another manufacturer convinces me to buy a non-ZWO camera :-) But in the meantime, I'm planning several tutorials (framing, live stack, etc.) to post on my channel!
Hey Trevor! - I have to say I am/have switched over to asiair plus from the Pc solution, and for my sessions it's been a revelation! :-) really happy! Awesome video as always and it was very interesting to hear your first take on things! Clear skies 👍👍
After about a month of trying to get NINA and PHD2 to work on my laptop, I switched to the ASIair Pro. As a beginner, I don't think I would have persuded astrophotography as a hobby if it wasn't for the ASIair. It makes everything so easy and enjoyable.
I don't need sponsorship and I don't maintain a social media presence. I like the ASIair because it's a very easy and straight forward device. It just works. I've used a laptop. Apt, Nina, and all that. Bought the ASIair and haven't looked back.
I think it really helps to use the ASIAIR app on a tablet rather than a phone. The app is well optimized to small screens but having slightly bigger screen space for messing with things helps. I'm using a Samsung s6 tablet and it runs smooth as butter.
I am trying to watch as many videos as possible to get a crash course on the ASI Air Plus. I just got mine delivered this week, along with the EAF and will be putting it all together on the William Optics Z61, along with my new SWSA GTi mount. I watched your video on the ASI294MC Pro (which is what I have). When you gave it such a great review and said you used an UV/IR cut filter to get that beautiful photo of the Veil nebula, I purchased a filter for mine. Now I have no excuse not to go for it. Thanks for sharing everything, I am so inspired.
ASIair pro user and even with the WiFi issues it's a game changer. One thing that wasn't mentioned which is really powerful,is the ability to schedule multiple targets over the night. So set up the targets, and go to bed. Good to see the updates have sorted the WiFi though. Will be upgrading.
Great overview Trevor. I must say.. I have been using the AAP for about a year now and it is absolutely perfect for me. Being in the uk.. Weather is always an issue. My rig is set up amd ready to go near my garden door and the i can get uo and running in minutes with AAP routine. It works seamlessly with the EAF and Autoguider. Completely get what you mean regarding beginners.. I must admit the AAP has made my imaging sessions so simple now i could never look back.
Glad you are revisiting the ASIAir. I tried a laptop but never took to looking at a PC while stargazing. I love the simplicity of DSLR/wide field scope and no guiding. But I wanted to start guiding and the ASIAir was the answer. Like you, I liked that gentle glow of the hand controller, but the ASIAir not only eliminated that, it introduced me to plate solving, no need for star alignment, and a bunch of possibilities. I used the unit for visual last night by designating the guide scope (120mini/50mm) as Main Camera and replacing my DSLR with a star diagonal and eyepiece. The polar alignment, plate solving, goto functions worked great.
This helped me immensely having taken up the hobby last year. Works great on my EQ6-R pro but when you start to switch up to e.g. the mount you have in the dome or 10 micron that require modelling for those that want unguided… maybe a mini pc or eagle might be the route for full control. Having said that because you can connect to the 10 micron, you could run a 3 star alignment and refine stars via virtual hand controller and using the asiair platesolve feature. Takes a while but doable
I know this is about 2 years old, but I finally broke down to try and simplify my setup recently. I have been using a Software Bisque MYT mount with the sky software AP130mm scope and I was pretty comfortable with it, but I didn't have a dedicated observatory, so setting up and taking down was starting to become a chore on my old bones. LOL I moved to an Aptura 75q with a AM5 mount asi122mm guider and ASI 1600mm camera with 5X2 filter wheel. The asiair + device makes everything from Polar alignment , focusing, finding objects , guiding and capture a breeze! I know its not for everyone, but for me I find myself able carry my scope and tripod out on my viewing spot and ready to image in 15 minutes!!!!
I’m an OG as well and I switched completely over to the ASIAIR Pro 6 months ago and have never looked back. The ASIAIR is a real game changer and has eliminated the need for a laptop entirely. I do recommend running the ASIAIR app on a tablet. I run mine on an iPad and it is phenomenal!
Wow I'm so early, awesome job Trevor, keep up the good work 😁 Btw.. could you make a vid for complete astrophotography beginners, like what's stacking, exposures, etc.?
Trevor, where have you been you are old school. Been using an ASIAir Pro for about a year, totally made my life photographing targets a breeze. From polar alignment, plate solving, guiding, focusing, capturing images, dark frames, dew heaters, etc. Leave the laptop at home as this will do a better job with an intuitive work flow. I use a amazon fire tablet which can run all night. I will recommend if using a battery, get a big one as the ASI with all the work it is doing, it uses a lot of power. But it!
Great video Trevor. Only thing I would expand on for me I use the AsiAirpro as an experienced Astrophotographer. Yes it simplifies the whole process but with no observatory it’s a win for me. The time it takes to set up has been vastly reduced since moving to the ASI, especially when running to rigs. Clear skies
That was my big win, I would struggle with polar because i have a fork on wedge mount but the ASIAIR I'm aligned in 10 minutes or less and ready to go back inside.
I totally expect the next AstroBackyard video to have the word WOW in it as least that many! I sure love my ASIAIR Pro and Plus, but I think my channel already made that clear ;)
I keep saying I just need to dive in with both feet and figure this stuff out. Looks like this will help with the learning curve. Maybe. I am so new I cant even tell you where the planets and stars are. I have taken some pictures of the milky way and moon but that is it. This just seems so involved and SOOOOOOOOOOOO much to learn. Thank you for taking the time to make this video
I just got one. It's pretty amazing tech, using my old Canon DSLR and lens with a SA GTi, and getting some good results already. Thanks for the vid. I LOVE plate solving...
I have the V1 and the Pro. The software has come on a long way over the past two years. The pro added video capture and live stacking but destroyed the wifi range. The plus looks like the best of both of the former iterations. Great video as always Trevor.
I can honestly say that apart from guiding in general; the ASIAIR is the single most profoundly useful purchase I've ever made in astronomy. Setups that used to take an hour or more, now take five minutes. Things that 50% of the time used to work 30% of the time, now work 100% of the time right away, robustly, and without fail. Since getting my AIR, I've discarded precisely ZERO subs due to derpy guiding. I used to throw away easily 20-30% in a given night. I'm absolutely in awe of this piece of kit. Doing without it seems genuinely prehistoric now.
I have the first version of the ASIAir and so far it has been working as expected, but I may switch to the new Pro Plus due to a few feature that I can't get on my original version. I was working on a Raspberry Pi to do what ZWO released in the ASIAir..I'm very happy they fixed the issues I have encountered. I wanted a solution where I didn't need to haul out my laptop and the ASIAir was the solution. I may give AstroBerry I try too. Great job on the video!
Hey Trevor, I have the Pro version and used it some times. I am completely with you when it comes to reliability and WiFi range issues of the ASI AIR Pro. It's good to hear that these things were improved in the new version. I would still use my mini PC in my backyard because you still can not plan your imiging frames in sense of rotation and mosaics. Clear Skies, Christian
I just watched this video because it popped up in my recommended but then I went to insta and saw your post and thought "oh awesome, a new video to watch." I fear I have played myself.
I’ve been into astronomy since I was 8 (currently 44) and reading Adventures in the Solar System with Planetron (anyone?). I entered the astrophotography hobby just as the ASIAir Pro came out and managed to snag one during the beginning months of the pandemic. The Wi-Fi connection was horrible and frustrating but I purchased a Vonet’s wifi extender and that has solved the majority of my issues. I absolutely LOVE the acquisition portion of this hobby; capturing images from my backyard as I do visual astronomy with a separate scope. Now, it’s my post-processing I really need to work on. Ugh. 😒
I have Pegasus Ultimate Power Box and mini pc, both sitting on the top of my scope. What also I have is absolutely unlimited freedom to use this setup with whatever camera and software I like.
I bought my ASIAir pro in august just so Id have a way to guide in the field. of course then I saw they had the 533mc pro in stock so got that as well. I sit next to my rig in the field, but I ordered a wifi extender for when i walk away farther than 5 feet! so I think the regular one will be just fine for me, but its still annoying that they release a new one right after I buy the old one!
For those of us who like to have 100% control over what equipment and want the remote capability, I have both Eagle 3 Pro on one setup and Eagle 4 Pro on the other setup and run them from my home office :)
I'm a mix of old and new :) I've tossed the hand controller and use platesolving.. but I think I would still prefer a laptop. I just don't think I would like to manage an imaging rig through the tiny screen of my phone. Now that camera on the other hand.. the asi2400.. that's one you don't hear about often. The asi6200 gets all the attention in the full frame space. I'd like to see more on that beast. I suspect it would match up well with the Edge 11... sans reducer.
At first, I thought I would have a hard time letting go of my laptop. But now I cringe at the thought of going back to my laptop. I use an iPad so that my eyes don’t have to squint at a cell phone screen. (My iPad screen is as big as my laptop screen). I’m so glad I made the switch. Now, I am up and running in far less time than before as the ASIAIR streamlines the whole process. I use all of the ASIAIR hardware connections (mount, both imaging and guide cameras, electronic autofocuser (EAF), filter wheel). The ASIAIR user group on Facebook is tremendous too with lots of helpful advice.
hey Trevor i have ASIAIR pro since the release and have no problems , i just plug in a wlan extender my 📸 Gear William optics Redcat 51 (FL 250mm) William optics Guide scope 50mm (FL 200mm) IOptron CEM25p ZWO asi071pro Color ( Main Camera) ZWO asi 120 mm Mini ( Guide Camera) ZWO asiair pro ZWO EFW 5x2zoll ZWO EAF autofokuser WLAN extender i´m really happy with the set up i always don´t like to leave my labtop in the nigt-wet oper for all backyard
Trevor, this is a great review. I've touched upon the original ASIAIR a bit and it's great that they're making continuous improvements from one generation to the next. I'm relatively new astrophotography compared to some of you guys (only a year in), and I too prefer the "OG" method of lugging out a laptop out there. However, because I don't own much ZWO products, then the ASIAIR, regardless of how they improve upon it, would be useless to me. I still prefer the freedom of using whatever I want with my MINI-PC / Laptop. Great review nonetheless!
Only major drawback I see is that you need to use ZWO cameras, auto-focusers and filter wheels. Not a problem if you are building from the ground up as ZWO makes great products, but if you already have a setup with, say, a different imaging camera, guide camera and/or focuser, switching to ASIAIR plus means having to invest in other new equipment. This could push the price of the switch to several times the base price of the ASIAIR plus
I love Asiair Pro for the EdgeHD800/Atlas Pro setup and am planning on getting a second one for my portable Skyguider Pro setup. I am still using the laptop for the Astroshed setup since it works and is already set. Ha Ha - You will finally be platesolving if you switch - only a matter of time. - Cheers Kurt
what quide camera do u use? That is the only thing i cant see in your Gear list. That rig setup you have on the raptor61 look amazing! WOW.. I really need this! I think this will change my astrophoto to a compleat/Complete. Do i need the filter.. I have a 4-5 ski.
Hi A B Y . I am thinking of becoming a Astro Photography, I have been looking at the Astro plus. But you and some other people are using phones 📱, it is to small for me to read, and I have Heard that there has been some problems with using iPad with this device. I'm going to be using a DSR Nikon camera at the moment, With a go to mount , Hopefully next year I will buying a triplet telescope with a EQ Six. So the question is will the iPad work or can I use a some type of MacBook or a Mac computer or an iPad as my iPhone is too small to read properly as I am old git. Phil from the Moulin in France.
I tried the ASIAir Pro about a year ago, very very impressed and I almost changed away from my laptop, but what held me back was the god-awful ASI EAF, the only autofocus module which works with the ASIAir. I found the EAF to be well short of the focus performance needed for imaging with an F4 Newt, and I switched to the far-superior Moonlite focus system, which immediately solved all focus issues. I understand ASIAir is built to support other ASI products - it's totally the prerogative of ZWO to run it that way - but in the case of the EAF, it desperately needs some competition to make it a better product.
Wonderful video. I am a asiair pro user. Keep thinking I'll go back to laptop and other programs. But the asiair is just so easy. Would love to see you take your fits. From the one shot color camera and see your stacking and processing. Step by step. For those of us that have trouble getting as good a quality photos as I did with sharpcap and SGP.
Sir, please you also capture the pictures of landscape photography as like Alyn Wallace and also make Astrovlog video like Alyn Wallace and upload videos on TH-cam "Please 🙏 Sir"
I’m using the ASI Air Pro with an Orion Atlas Pro mount, Orion 110 Eon refractor and ASI 2600 MC Pro. Have a small guide scope (120 mm FL) with a ASI 290MM mini. Everything works really well. This is my first system and I am pleased with it. I have bought a wifi extender but haven’t used it yet (maybe in the winter when it is cold out). My only question is how the ASI Air Pro will hold up in our Canadian winter. Manual says operating temp is 0 to 40 oC. It is a lot colder than that here! Dr B from Manitoba
Thank you. Nice review. Other great features not covered: - Autofocussing is a blessing with an EAF. - LiveStacking is an absolutely great feature to see astro images being created in real time. - Video mode for planets. I am a happy user of the ASIAIR Pro. I am running the App on an iPad Pro! Works great! I attached a blazingly fast 1TB Samsung T5 SSD on the ASIAIR USB3 port. I overcame the WiFi range issue with putting an old 5GHz router next to the scope and using the Ethernet cable from the ASIAIR to the router. The router creates a fast local network with a long range. As far as I see, the WiFi is the main - but very important - change next to the new internal memory between the Pro and Plus version.
@@AstroBackyard Don't put yourself down. You are a smart guy! Now I am curious though if vignetting like that increases your integration times. It does bother me though to see OPT claim that the scope will cover a 35mm sensor when clearly it does not. APC looks like it would be a better fit.
I have been using the ASIAIR Pro with great sucess over the past year and to solve the wifi range I attached a power strip to a tripod legs where everything is powered from and also plugged in a TP-Link wifi extender thats connected to my home network and thats plugged in to the RJ-45 connector on the Pro. Other than the Wifi range upgrade is this new one that much better to replace my old Pro?
Hi Trevor, Love your videos. In a further demo can you show the ASIAIR Plus use of the Video mode? I have the Pro and cannot fathom how to use that mode. An mp4 gets saved on the phone, but where? It does not say. Does the Plus address how planetary can be done? Like the Moon or Jupiter. Before I dump my PC it would be good to see. I go back to Sharpcap for such images. The other modes are so much more intuitive.
Trevor ive been using the asiair since v1 when i first started astrophotography 2 years ago. as much as i loved your videos on the laptop software setup for an imaging session, its all too much work compared to my 15min setup time. im sure i would given up the hobby very quickly, due to frustration
I realize the ASIAir is a ZWO product, but I still would like to see it support QHY cameras. Some of the comparable cameras between ZWO and QHY come down in QHY's favor, particularly for onboard RAM.
I still have the pro sitting in its box, so really need to put it to use, so no need for the new one! Do like the Eagle setup that Steven Morris is using though.....
i have the Asiair pro, but use an Ethernet cable from it as wifi not strong enough to reach the house, but maybe when i can will upgrade to the plus :)
Thats Awesome..Im Still At Sky Fi3 Level😁Im Getting There.I Can Honestly Say It Truly Was a Game Changer,But I Like Learning And Doing Things Manually Before Going Remote..Clear Skies❤️🙏🏼🔭✨🌏
Trevor, Does this latest version of ASIAIR Pro Plus works with a CEM 40 mount? All the data I found seems to indicate that it does not. Can you elaborate on this. It looks really good, but still, I need to find out if it will work. I am interested in the mount control with the meridian flip, plate solving, and centering the object along with the PHD2 guiding and dithering. BTW, can this box interface with a Windows laptop?
Another great video! Quick question though, I don't need to plug anything into my dslr do I for autoguiding? It's just the guide camera that gets plugged in isn't it? My dslr is a second hand canon 1000d so would I be able to use that as my main imaging camera with this asiair set up?
I actually have been only tracking/ shooting lucky imaging style (no guiding) with 2 min exposures at most w/ dslr (one modded stock)on a triplet refractor/Eq6-r and a star adventurer with lenses up until now with good results. I have owned an asi120mm guide camera with matching g. scope for awhile/ haven't enough time to dive into laptop controlled sessions with guiding due to work, clear nights etc... I just bought the asi air plus to start becoming more streamlined and actually guide along with tracking. I think i have enough knowledge to move from a dslr right to a cooled monochrome sensor and filter wheel for false color pallet imaging. The asi air plus I feel will bring my technique together to finally running with the big Dawgs!!!! Clear skies/screw light pollution it getting way worse 😂
Hi there, another great video. I was wondering if you could advise me on why when using Autorun that my ZWO585MC only seems to take black and white images as when I take test shots in 'Preview' it saves the images to my phone in colour. As such it seems that the camera seems to be operating fine, but I hope that my settings in the ASIAIR Plus are off when in Autorun. I hope you can advise? All the best, Dougie
We all already know that this system works very well with short focal distance setup. But how will this work with medium and and long focal distance? It's a shame that ZWO released version 2 even knew about the short range problem (which didn't happen in version 1) Now want us to spend 350€ for their failure. Thank you for the great video. :-)
The ASIAir Pro works perfectly with my 2350mm SCT, including great guiding & plate solving accuracy. This new version would allow me to put away the Cat-5 cable running across my lawn, but that's about it.
I envisaged these for my setup, but being dependent of a phone app (and its compatibility and maintenance) for being able to operate the whole thing is putting me off a bit. Surely the laptop/mini-pc way is harder, but hell, desktop OS's are not going away any soon, cannot say the same for android & iOS. It's like "put all one's eggs in one basket". Great vid though :)
I've had the pro for about a year now and love it. I actually don't see a need to upgrade to the plus myself. The biggest improvement the Plus has over the Pro is the external antenna to boost WIFI. I actually just have a Net Gear WIFI range extender plugged into the ethernet port on my ASI Air pro. And I can access my imaging setup almost anywhere on my property. One thing I have discovered though. Is that the ASI app tends to work best on IOS rather than Android.
I have watched several videos from various users of this device but I am still confused about the cabling. If I have the ASI Air Plus USB connected to the hand controller of my mount do I still need the cable from the guide scope to mount? The documentation on connections for this thing are weak!
The ASIAIR Plus will be available in November. Will you be switching/upgrading? Also... I think CUIV should be a regular technical advisor for this channel! :D
Sir, please you also capture the pictures of landscape photography as like Alyn Wallace and also make Astrovlog video like Alyn Wallace and upload videos on TH-cam "Please 🙏 Sir"
I was going to mention Cuiv, but you got there way before me lol
@@Priyanshu369up I'm a fan of Alyn too
Love the Pro…will definitely be getting the PLUS for the extended wifi! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Naah. It's a nice set up and convenient, but being locked into ZWO products (even though they're good) doesn't sound appealing. I'll stick with my NUC and SGP or NINA.
I had been holding out on the ASIAir to wait for it to mature - and I think third time's the charm, as far as I can tell! I am impressed with how streamlined an experience it provides out of the box! It's now permanently on my smaller setup.... Until another manufacturer convinces me to buy a non-ZWO camera :-) But in the meantime, I'm planning several tutorials (framing, live stack, etc.) to post on my channel!
I look forward to those future tutorials. Your 1st was impressive. I've tried Live Stack, but seems odd taking calibration frames before Light Frames
So happy to see a collaboration with Cuiv, he absolutely deserves the exposure (pun intended) !
Thanks! It's fun too!
Hey Trevor! - I have to say I am/have switched over to asiair plus from the Pc solution, and for my sessions it's been a revelation! :-) really happy!
Awesome video as always and it was very interesting to hear your first take on things!
Clear skies 👍👍
After about a month of trying to get NINA and PHD2 to work on my laptop, I switched to the ASIair Pro. As a beginner, I don't think I would have persuded astrophotography as a hobby if it wasn't for the ASIair. It makes everything so easy and enjoyable.
Nina sucks so bad
I don't need sponsorship and I don't maintain a social media presence. I like the ASIair because it's a very easy and straight forward device. It just works. I've used a laptop. Apt, Nina, and all that. Bought the ASIair and haven't looked back.
I think it really helps to use the ASIAIR app on a tablet rather than a phone. The app is well optimized to small screens but having slightly bigger screen space for messing with things helps. I'm using a Samsung s6 tablet and it runs smooth as butter.
I have the ASIAIR Pro version so I probably won’t upgrade but I am so happy you reviewed the Plus version Trevor! It makes deep sky astro so much fun!
I am trying to watch as many videos as possible to get a crash course on the ASI Air Plus. I just got mine delivered this week, along with the EAF and will be putting it all together on the William Optics Z61, along with my new SWSA GTi mount. I watched your video on the ASI294MC Pro (which is what I have). When you gave it such a great review and said you used an UV/IR cut filter to get that beautiful photo of the Veil nebula, I purchased a filter for mine. Now I have no excuse not to go for it. Thanks for sharing everything, I am so inspired.
And what is happening. Did you already got an DS image from your setup.
ASIair pro user and even with the WiFi issues it's a game changer. One thing that wasn't mentioned which is really powerful,is the ability to schedule multiple targets over the night. So set up the targets, and go to bed. Good to see the updates have sorted the WiFi though. Will be upgrading.
Great overview Trevor. I must say.. I have been using the AAP for about a year now and it is absolutely perfect for me. Being in the uk.. Weather is always an issue. My rig is set up amd ready to go near my garden door and the i can get uo and running in minutes with AAP routine. It works seamlessly with the EAF and Autoguider. Completely get what you mean regarding beginners.. I must admit the AAP has made my imaging sessions so simple now i could never look back.
Astro noob here, LOVE the asiair pro, works everytime, no issues, plan mode is priceless, grateful for this little box on world Gratitude Day 👍
I have the Pro and it is unbelievable! Definitely getting the plus too 👌
Glad you are revisiting the ASIAir. I tried a laptop but never took to looking at a PC while stargazing. I love the simplicity of DSLR/wide field scope and no guiding. But I wanted to start guiding and the ASIAir was the answer. Like you, I liked that gentle glow of the hand controller, but the ASIAir not only eliminated that, it introduced me to plate solving, no need for star alignment, and a bunch of possibilities. I used the unit for visual last night by designating the guide scope (120mini/50mm) as Main Camera and replacing my DSLR with a star diagonal and eyepiece. The polar alignment, plate solving, goto functions worked great.
This helped me immensely having taken up the hobby last year. Works great on my EQ6-R pro but when you start to switch up to e.g. the mount you have in the dome or 10 micron that require modelling for those that want unguided… maybe a mini pc or eagle might be the route for full control. Having said that because you can connect to the 10 micron, you could run a 3 star alignment and refine stars via virtual hand controller and using the asiair platesolve feature. Takes a while but doable
I know this is about 2 years old, but I finally broke down to try and simplify my setup recently. I have been using a Software Bisque MYT mount with the sky software AP130mm scope and I was pretty comfortable with it, but I didn't have a dedicated observatory, so setting up and taking down was starting to become a chore on my old bones. LOL I moved to an Aptura 75q with a AM5 mount asi122mm guider and ASI 1600mm camera with 5X2 filter wheel. The asiair + device makes everything from Polar alignment , focusing, finding objects , guiding and capture a breeze! I know its not for everyone, but for me I find myself able carry my scope and tripod out on my viewing spot and ready to image in 15 minutes!!!!
I’m an OG as well and I switched completely over to the ASIAIR Pro 6 months ago and have never looked back. The ASIAIR is a real game changer and has eliminated the need for a laptop entirely. I do recommend running the ASIAIR app on a tablet. I run mine on an iPad and it is phenomenal!
Are you ever tempted to run it from your home PC?
@@AntPDC Nope
Awesome video, Trevor! You’re going to be platesolving if you’re not careful! 🙂😂🙂
So funny. He still holding on to those one and two star alignments .
Wow I'm so early, awesome job Trevor, keep up the good work 😁
Btw.. could you make a vid for complete astrophotography beginners, like what's stacking, exposures, etc.?
I've already seen it at Cuiv the lazy geek. Looks awesome!
Cuiv & Trevor in the same instructional video ? SWEET !!!
Right?! :D
Amazing video. Been waiting for an upgraded ASI AIR. Loved the image Trevor!
I use the ASIAIR Pro and love it! I've only been in the hobby for a year but I found it so easy to understand and work with.
You are litterly the Person who made me turn into a Astrophotographer 🙂 Thank you!☺
Trevor, where have you been you are old school. Been using an ASIAir Pro for about a year, totally made my life photographing targets a breeze. From polar alignment, plate solving, guiding, focusing, capturing images, dark frames, dew heaters, etc. Leave the laptop at home as this will do a better job with an intuitive work flow. I use a amazon fire tablet which can run all night. I will recommend if using a battery, get a big one as the ASI with all the work it is doing, it uses a lot of power. But it!
What a great setup! Really love to see the equipment ( I've been building in my dreams 🤓) in action. Well done mate!
Great video Trevor. Only thing I would expand on for me I use the AsiAirpro as an experienced Astrophotographer. Yes it simplifies the whole process but with no observatory it’s a win for me. The time it takes to set up has been vastly reduced since moving to the ASI, especially when running to rigs. Clear skies
That was my big win, I would struggle with polar because i have a fork on wedge mount but the ASIAIR I'm aligned in 10 minutes or less and ready to go back inside.
Hey it's Cuiv! Lol his first light video with the ASIR Plus had me cracking up. He said Wow about 100 times 🤣.
I totally expect the next AstroBackyard video to have the word WOW in it as least that many! I sure love my ASIAIR Pro and Plus, but I think my channel already made that clear ;)
Love my AIR Plus. It's been fantastic so far, and makes the whole experience way more enjoyable than messing with a laptop.
Always nice to hear honest unbiased reviews love the vids, love your captures Trevor
My asiair plus gets here tomorrow, excited to see how the wifi does
I keep saying I just need to dive in with both feet and figure this stuff out. Looks like this will help with the learning curve. Maybe. I am so new I cant even tell you where the planets and stars are. I have taken some pictures of the milky way and moon but that is it. This just seems so involved and SOOOOOOOOOOOO much to learn. Thank you for taking the time to make this video
I just got one. It's pretty amazing tech, using my old Canon DSLR and lens with a SA GTi, and getting some good results already. Thanks for the vid. I LOVE plate solving...
I have the V1 and the Pro. The software has come on a long way over the past two years. The pro added video capture and live stacking but destroyed the wifi range. The plus looks like the best of both of the former iterations. Great video as always Trevor.
you know its a good day when astrobackyard uploads
I can honestly say that apart from guiding in general; the ASIAIR is the single most profoundly useful purchase I've ever made in astronomy. Setups that used to take an hour or more, now take five minutes. Things that 50% of the time used to work 30% of the time, now work 100% of the time right away, robustly, and without fail. Since getting my AIR, I've discarded precisely ZERO subs due to derpy guiding. I used to throw away easily 20-30% in a given night. I'm absolutely in awe of this piece of kit. Doing without it seems genuinely prehistoric now.
Great video and the end music was really nice too :D
You should try and take a picture of the Hubble Legacy Field
Trevor, you are the man 👍🏼 keep up the great work and amazing videos!
I have the first version of the ASIAir and so far it has been working as expected, but I may switch to the new Pro Plus due to a few feature that I can't get on my original version.
I was working on a Raspberry Pi to do what ZWO released in the ASIAir..I'm very happy they fixed the issues I have encountered. I wanted a solution where I didn't need to haul out my laptop and the ASIAir was the solution. I may give AstroBerry I try too.
Great job on the video!
Thanks for disclosing the (lack of) compensation. Gives us viewers a better idea of whats driving the video.
Sticking with the Pro until I have a good reason. I like the idea of a new one though.
Heard the pro Wifi is awful? My thinking was the real reason the Plus was introduced so quickly was for external antenna.
@@RonixViva correct
Great video. Do you think the new AAP can capture suitable planetary videos assuming I’m using a ZWO planetary camera
Hey Trevor, I have the Pro version and used it some times. I am completely with you when it comes to reliability and WiFi range issues of the ASI AIR Pro. It's good to hear that these things were improved in the new version.
I would still use my mini PC in my backyard because you still can not plan your imiging frames in sense of rotation and mosaics.
Clear Skies,
Christian
I read and saw somewhere that the ASIAIR+ can create mosaics now as well…
@@WilliFromEarth
Wow! I didn't know that. I will dig into that subject if it's possible.
Thank you.
Clear Skies,
Christian
I feel like we have the same taste in music😂 ur past videos have had songs that are in my playlist on spotify! Cool stuff dude!
I just watched this video because it popped up in my recommended but then I went to insta and saw your post and thought "oh awesome, a new video to watch." I fear I have played myself.
I’ve been into astronomy since I was 8 (currently 44) and reading Adventures in the Solar System with Planetron (anyone?). I entered the astrophotography hobby just as the ASIAir Pro came out and managed to snag one during the beginning months of the pandemic. The Wi-Fi connection was horrible and frustrating but I purchased a Vonet’s wifi extender and that has solved the majority of my issues. I absolutely LOVE the acquisition portion of this hobby; capturing images from my backyard as I do visual astronomy with a separate scope. Now, it’s my post-processing I really need to work on. Ugh. 😒
Another thing to add to the wish list! :) Thanks for great videos Trevor! 🙏🏻
The picture is outstanding!
Heck yeah! Thumbs up for the Lazy Geek.
I've been using the + now for a few weeks. Quite impressive improvement is transmitter range. I am getting 35 feet through exterior walls.
I have Pegasus Ultimate Power Box and mini pc, both sitting on the top of my scope. What also I have is absolutely unlimited freedom to use this setup with whatever camera and software I like.
I am using Pro and I haven't experienced any bugs or instability so far (10months). I cannot imagine doing it old fashion way, I don't have backyard.
Trevor, use Lan connection and give Asiair a dedicated IP and you can operate anywhere in the house. Four different connection methods.
Achievement unlocked! I appear in an Astrobackyard video! Whohoo ;-) 0:22 mark in case you are wondering.
Next to me Martin!
I think I would only use it on trips, but in my backyard, I would still use my laptop. It just can't replace N.I.N.A and PHD2 in my opinion :)
It'll be interesting to see if it holds up after awhile. Good luck :)
I use an Intel NUC for my imaging, mounted directly on the rig, but I might pick this up for a second imaging rig.
Preordered it last month and I’m looking forward to using it, but yeah…changing the way I do just about everything is intimidating
Never thought I'd hear asiair and intimidating in the same phrase! It's super easy to use, I'm sure you'll love it!
You'll be a 100% convert within a week and never look back. You'll wonder how you were okay with so much wasted time and frustration previously.
I bought my ASIAir pro in august just so Id have a way to guide in the field. of course then I saw they had the 533mc pro in stock so got that as well. I sit next to my rig in the field, but I ordered a wifi extender for when i walk away farther than 5 feet! so I think the regular one will be just fine for me, but its still annoying that they release a new one right after I buy the old one!
For those of us who like to have 100% control over what equipment and want the remote capability, I have both Eagle 3 Pro on one setup and Eagle 4 Pro on the other setup and run them from my home office :)
I think the ASIAIR uses the PHD2 for its guiding package
You beat me to it! 😂 I'm still editing the audio for my review.
AstroBackyard great vid love watch all your stuff, was wondering do you prefer the color zwo’s or the mono chrome? I see you jump back and forth.
I'm a mix of old and new :) I've tossed the hand controller and use platesolving.. but I think I would still prefer a laptop. I just don't think I would like to manage an imaging rig through the tiny screen of my phone.
Now that camera on the other hand.. the asi2400.. that's one you don't hear about often. The asi6200 gets all the attention in the full frame space. I'd like to see more on that beast. I suspect it would match up well with the Edge 11... sans reducer.
At first, I thought I would have a hard time letting go of my laptop. But now I cringe at the thought of going back to my laptop. I use an iPad so that my eyes don’t have to squint at a cell phone screen. (My iPad screen is as big as my laptop screen). I’m so glad I made the switch. Now, I am up and running in far less time than before as the ASIAIR streamlines the whole process. I use all of the ASIAIR hardware connections (mount, both imaging and guide cameras, electronic autofocuser (EAF), filter wheel). The ASIAIR user group on Facebook is tremendous too with lots of helpful advice.
@@davidleejenkins Thanks David. The hardware connections do look nice.. better than running everything to a hub.
hey Trevor
i have ASIAIR pro since the release and have no problems , i just plug in a wlan extender
my 📸 Gear
William optics Redcat 51 (FL 250mm)
William optics Guide scope 50mm (FL 200mm)
IOptron CEM25p
ZWO asi071pro Color ( Main Camera)
ZWO asi 120 mm Mini ( Guide Camera)
ZWO asiair pro
ZWO EFW 5x2zoll
ZWO EAF autofokuser
WLAN extender
i´m really happy with the set up
i always don´t like to leave my labtop in the nigt-wet oper for all backyard
This has to be the game changer
Trevor, this is a great review. I've touched upon the original ASIAIR a bit and it's great that they're making continuous improvements from one generation to the next. I'm relatively new astrophotography compared to some of you guys (only a year in), and I too prefer the "OG" method of lugging out a laptop out there. However, because I don't own much ZWO products, then the ASIAIR, regardless of how they improve upon it, would be useless to me. I still prefer the freedom of using whatever I want with my MINI-PC / Laptop. Great review nonetheless!
Only major drawback I see is that you need to use ZWO cameras, auto-focusers and filter wheels. Not a problem if you are building from the ground up as ZWO makes great products, but if you already have a setup with, say, a different imaging camera, guide camera and/or focuser, switching to ASIAIR plus means having to invest in other new equipment. This could push the price of the switch to several times the base price of the ASIAIR plus
I love Asiair Pro for the EdgeHD800/Atlas Pro setup and am planning on getting a second one for my portable Skyguider Pro setup. I am still using the laptop for the Astroshed setup since it works and is already set. Ha Ha - You will finally be platesolving if you switch - only a matter of time. - Cheers Kurt
what quide camera do u use? That is the only thing i cant see in your Gear list. That rig setup you have on the raptor61 look amazing! WOW.. I really need this! I think this will change my astrophoto to a compleat/Complete. Do i need the filter.. I have a 4-5 ski.
Hi A B Y .
I am thinking of becoming a Astro Photography, I have been looking at the Astro plus. But you and some other people are using phones 📱, it is to small for me to read, and I have Heard that there has been some problems with using iPad with this device.
I'm going to be using a DSR Nikon camera at the moment, With a go to mount ,
Hopefully next year I will buying a triplet telescope with a EQ Six.
So the question is will the iPad work or can I use a some type of MacBook or a Mac computer or an iPad as my iPhone is too small to read properly as I am old git.
Phil from the Moulin in France.
I tried the ASIAir Pro about a year ago, very very impressed and I almost changed away from my laptop, but what held me back was the god-awful ASI EAF, the only autofocus module which works with the ASIAir. I found the EAF to be well short of the focus performance needed for imaging with an F4 Newt, and I switched to the far-superior Moonlite focus system, which immediately solved all focus issues. I understand ASIAir is built to support other ASI products - it's totally the prerogative of ZWO to run it that way - but in the case of the EAF, it desperately needs some competition to make it a better product.
I have one on my F4 refractor and it’s been working great. It even auto-focuses after each filter change. Maybe it’s not newt friendly. Not sure
Wonderful video. I am a asiair pro user. Keep thinking I'll go back to laptop and other programs. But the asiair is just so easy. Would love to see you take your fits. From the one shot color camera and see your stacking and processing. Step by step. For those of us that have trouble getting as good a quality photos as I did with sharpcap and SGP.
Sir, please you also capture the pictures of landscape photography as like Alyn Wallace and also make Astrovlog video like Alyn Wallace and upload videos on TH-cam "Please 🙏 Sir"
I’m using the ASI Air Pro with an Orion Atlas Pro mount, Orion 110 Eon refractor and ASI 2600 MC Pro. Have a small guide scope (120 mm FL) with a ASI 290MM mini. Everything works really well. This is my first system and I am pleased with it. I have bought a wifi extender but haven’t used it yet (maybe in the winter when it is cold out). My only question is how the ASI Air Pro will hold up in our Canadian winter. Manual says operating temp is 0 to 40 oC. It is a lot colder than that here! Dr B from Manitoba
Check out the TH-cam channel, Northern Panorama. He uses his ASIAIR in Sweden north of the Arctic Circle in -30 degree temps!
@@davidleejenkins Thanks for letting me know David. That is good to know! Clear skies!
Thank you. Nice review.
Other great features not covered:
- Autofocussing is a blessing with an EAF.
- LiveStacking is an absolutely great feature to see astro images being created in real time.
- Video mode for planets.
I am a happy user of the ASIAIR Pro. I am running the App on an iPad Pro! Works great! I attached a blazingly fast 1TB Samsung T5 SSD on the ASIAIR USB3 port.
I overcame the WiFi range issue with putting an old 5GHz router next to the scope and using the Ethernet cable from the ASIAIR to the router. The router creates a fast local network with a long range. As far as I see, the WiFi is the main - but very important - change next to the new internal memory between the Pro and Plus version.
Man the vignetting on that sensor is just huge. I would never handicap my system by using a sensor that larger and waisting that much light with it.
I'm not very smart! 🤷♂️
@@AstroBackyard Don't put yourself down. You are a smart guy!
Now I am curious though if vignetting like that increases your integration times.
It does bother me though to see OPT claim that the scope will cover a 35mm sensor when clearly it does not. APC looks like it would be a better fit.
Nice review. Does it have the equivalent of FireCapture for luna and planetary imaging?
I have been using the ASIAIR Pro with great sucess over the past year and to solve the wifi range I attached a power strip to a tripod legs where everything is powered from and also plugged in a TP-Link wifi extender thats connected to my home network and thats plugged in to the RJ-45 connector on the Pro. Other than the Wifi range upgrade is this new one that much better to replace my old Pro?
Hi Trevor, Love your videos. In a further demo can you show the ASIAIR Plus use of the Video mode? I have the Pro and cannot fathom how to use that mode. An mp4 gets saved on the phone, but where? It does not say. Does the Plus address how planetary can be done? Like the Moon or Jupiter. Before I dump my PC it would be good to see. I go back to Sharpcap for such images. The other modes are so much more intuitive.
Trevor ive been using the asiair since v1 when i first started astrophotography 2 years ago. as much as i loved your videos on the laptop software setup for an imaging session, its all too much work compared to my 15min setup time. im sure i would given up the hobby very quickly, due to frustration
I realize the ASIAir is a ZWO product, but I still would like to see it support QHY cameras. Some of the comparable cameras between ZWO and QHY come down in QHY's favor, particularly for onboard RAM.
I still have the pro sitting in its box, so really need to put it to use, so no need for the new one! Do like the Eagle setup that Steven Morris is using though.....
This has to come just as I am waiting for my Pro to be delivered. Just my luck.
Don't worry. I have been using the ASIair pro for months and I love it. You won't be disappointed.
@@gooe9561 Thank you 🙏🏼. I also bought the ZWO-WIFI besides the Pro. Maybe that will help a lot. 🙏🏼
NiSi Optics came out with a filter called Star Soft Astrophotography Filter. Could you review it someday? Thank you
i have the Asiair pro, but use an Ethernet cable from it as wifi not strong enough to reach the house, but maybe when i can will upgrade to the plus :)
Thats Awesome..Im Still At Sky Fi3 Level😁Im Getting There.I Can Honestly Say It Truly Was a Game Changer,But I Like Learning And Doing Things Manually Before Going Remote..Clear Skies❤️🙏🏼🔭✨🌏
Trevor, Does this latest version of ASIAIR Pro Plus works with a CEM 40 mount? All the data I found seems to indicate that it does not. Can you elaborate on this. It looks really good, but still, I need to find out if it will work. I am interested in the mount control with the meridian flip, plate solving, and centering the object along with the PHD2 guiding and dithering. BTW, can this box interface with a Windows laptop?
Another great video! Quick question though, I don't need to plug anything into my dslr do I for autoguiding? It's just the guide camera that gets plugged in isn't it? My dslr is a second hand canon 1000d so would I be able to use that as my main imaging camera with this asiair set up?
I actually have been only tracking/ shooting lucky imaging style (no guiding) with 2 min exposures at most w/ dslr (one modded stock)on a triplet refractor/Eq6-r and a star adventurer with lenses up until now with good results. I have owned an asi120mm guide camera with matching g. scope for awhile/ haven't enough time to dive into laptop controlled sessions with guiding due to work, clear nights etc... I just bought the asi air plus to start becoming more streamlined and actually guide along with tracking.
I think i have enough knowledge to move from a dslr right to a cooled monochrome sensor and filter wheel for false color pallet imaging. The asi air plus I feel will bring my technique together to finally running with the big Dawgs!!!! Clear skies/screw light pollution it getting way worse 😂
I own the Asiair pro. I hope they come up with more ways to finetune guiding. PEC and more adjustment. But love a lot of things too..
Hi there, another great video. I was wondering if you could advise me on why when using Autorun that my ZWO585MC only seems to take black and white images as when I take test shots in 'Preview' it saves the images to my phone in colour. As such it seems that the camera seems to be operating fine, but I hope that my settings in the ASIAIR Plus are off when in Autorun. I hope you can advise? All the best, Dougie
Next level - switch to Astroberry and use all open-source stuff! Great job.
We all already know that this system works very well with short focal distance setup. But how will this work with medium and and long focal distance? It's a shame that ZWO released version 2 even knew about the short range problem (which didn't happen in version 1) Now want us to spend 350€ for their failure. Thank you for the great video. :-)
The ASIAir Pro works perfectly with my 2350mm SCT, including great guiding & plate solving accuracy. This new version would allow me to put away the Cat-5 cable running across my lawn, but that's about it.
I assume your funds are also not limitless. What did you sell and what did you buy in the past 12 months?
I envisaged these for my setup, but being dependent of a phone app (and its compatibility and maintenance) for being able to operate the whole thing is putting me off a bit. Surely the laptop/mini-pc way is harder, but hell, desktop OS's are not going away any soon, cannot say the same for android & iOS.
It's like "put all one's eggs in one basket". Great vid though :)
The device looks amazing! Is there any table of compatibility with telescopes? Will it work with Celestron 4SE?
As I just bought the Pro recently, I’ll have to leave the plus for a while or face divorce lol
Divorce might be worth it for the better wifi!
@@PilotPhteven hahaha you could be right lol
I've had the pro for about a year now and love it. I actually don't see a need to upgrade to the plus myself. The biggest improvement the Plus has over the Pro is the external antenna to boost WIFI. I actually just have a Net Gear WIFI range extender plugged into the ethernet port on my ASI Air pro. And I can access my imaging setup almost anywhere on my property. One thing I have discovered though. Is that the ASI app tends to work best on IOS rather than Android.
I have watched several videos from various users of this device but I am still confused about the cabling. If I have the ASI Air Plus USB connected to the hand controller of my mount do I still need the cable from the guide scope to mount? The documentation on connections for this thing are weak!