Awww thank you so much Judy! We are all in "this" together! So glad hearing my thoughts is helpful to you. And great thanks for your kind words about my paintings.
Speaking from my own experience, I move fluidly operating in each mode at different times. This applies to all aspects of my life, not just my art, but in the way, I think and the way I operate in navigating the world. The composition for the painting or an individual situation or condition calls forth that part of my being that requires me to perform or create as either a copier an innovator or a replicator. I feel certain that I am part of a larger cohort of people who do similarly. Looking back on my life, I recognize there were times in the past that I operated more as a copier, and that now I definitely operate more as an innovator.
I can fall into all three, but just because I can do something doesn’t mean I want to. the category that gives me the most satisfaction and pleasure is to innovate - and yes, that’s where empowerment lies. 🌺
I love reading your analysis of how you work as it relates to these categories, Wendy! I think it's empowering for everyone to know what works best for them as it makes one's work much stronger. Cheers!
Oh my- I am definitely a repressed innovator always looking for the next stimulus from outside having been harshly schooled to follow the RULES! A tribute to my resilient core that I am able to break them and my artistic soul has survived and sometimes triumphs (and sometimes doesn’t) and often resonates with discussions that illuminate my path/process. Thank you Marianne for the many ways in which you help this along. I just admit that even hearing the labels, especially “copier” put my teeth on edge, but I love constellation thinker. For myself, my life, including my art, I consider myself a searcher, a seeker, an innovator or perhaps more of a proliferator ( to cause the production of new parts, cells, buds…) hopefully in a positive way having synthesized my findings. Definitely a work in progress.
Thank YOU, Ronne! It has been a true joy to work with you, go the distance with you and experience your world as you go through it. Yes... categories can be limiting and controversial. I hope I've conveyed here that these descriptions are living breathing thoughts - always open for varied interpretations and changes. Many thanks as always for sharing a bit about yourself here. Cheers!
Could it be? I see myself in all three. I'm a little rusty, but can draw what I see (had fantastic drawing teachers in art school). I love to start with something representational and then ... dive off into form-color-line-texture within the constraints of the canvas. And finally, I was raised in a family that revered abstract art; my inner sense is that abstraction is the only way to be. All that said, I've tried being more innovative/intuitive and keep falling back into a need to have a relatable (for me) jumping-off point. I'm going to mull over being a replicator, but I think it fits. (I've also been trying REALLY HARD to be an innovator, but it's mostly exhausting.
Hi Mary! I love your comments here! It seems this way of understanding yourself resonates! Yes, it could be that you are all three... who am I to say that is impossible?!! Thanks for sharing a bit about your background here. Cheers to your artistic practice!
I found your definitions of these categories very helpful. I've been drawing, painting and making other kinds of art all my life (76 years old) and find it very interesting to consider human artistic drive, characteristics, skills and abilities grouped in these ways. Thank you, Marianne.
This is great to hear! I love that you are interested in considering "human artistic drive, characteristics, skill and abilities grouped in these ways" Cheers to your being a lifelong artist and seeker! Many thanks for sharing a bit about yourself here...
Hello. I’m Corrine. I am a retired art teacher and painter. I struggled most of my life trying to be a copier and a replicator because I wanted to be like everyone else… not knowing that I was an innovator and that that type of artist was ok. Many art schools are not set up for people like us? I love to just start painting and let the painting tell me what to do. Interesting talk.
Marianne, I am experimenting with all types of art forms. Formally a metalsmith, but currently I am loving watercolor paints. My frustration is with drawing and painting is that I keep trying to paint looser and more passionately. I have often been told I can draw and paint realistic very well but I don't always feel a satisfaction in hearing this. How will I find my voice if I resist what's comfortable for me. But I do have moments of quick paintings that feel more satisfying. I'm constantly looking for classes to learn different ways to paint but would really love to find my voice and know how and why I want to paint. Thanks for your video..its really got me thinking....Debi (copier? )
Hi Debi! So glad to hear your "Story" here... SO many artists I work with voice a similar frustration about wanting to find their voice. My "mission" through Whole Artist Mastery is to help artists find, and "own" their voice, which then leads to making compelling work, and ultimately greater self awareness and confidence in who you are as an artist. I invite you to consider a Whole Artist Mastery Mentorship program, and, plans are in the works for launching an online course called "Own Your Voice" hopefully in Spring of 2025. Stay tuned! Many thanks for your comment and interest... cheers to your artistic journey!
Thank you Marianne. This is a very useful clarification to me. Gave me more vision to start assuming what I am ❤ I’m in the process of writing a statement for my work.
Totally resonate with what you have said here.....i have spent years trying to let go of the idea that to be a good artist - or even just an 'artist' - i had to be able to draw realistically....i struggled for so long trying to do that, but mostly just didn't enjoy that process....once i found that what i loved to do is express from inside myself, respond to what i see emerging on the canvas and find the joy in creating something that made sense to me!! I'm absolutely an innovator type....but having said that i also felt pretty at home being a bit of a replicator....meaning i might start off with an inspiring photo i'd taken at the beach and then very quickly let go of that and just responded to what was appearing in front of me. this is such a wonderful confirmation of who we are as individuals and unique people! many thanks once again for your insightful thoughts! cheers, linda
it's wonderful to know that my thoughts here resonated with you, Linda. Thank you so much for sharing your story here and your feeling of confirmation about how YOU are an artist! Cheers to you...
I think you've put some well considered thought into the spectrum that visual artists find themselves. My beef is with the words themselves. I know many many artists none of whom would proudly exclaim "I'm a copier!" or "I'm a replicator." Probably all of them would rather say they are innovators. In my oil painting I'm what you would call a replicator, but as a writer I'm an innovator, so I'm going to innovate new terms for you to consider. This, as another innovator will know, might take me some time. But I promise to begin now!
Thank you Jan for such a great lens on all of this. I so appreciate that the "innovator writer" in you will come up with new terms... I welcome them and look forward to continuing the conversation with you. Cheers!
Interesting. I can draw what I see but artists/friends who’ve focused on developing those skills for years do it better , but I am not very interested in developing it, even though I admire it. I was brought up in classical everything. I don’t regret it. I learned a lot, but I felt very constrained by it. I am much more relaxed and happy improvising in dance, music, painting, which is scary for many people. It was a breakthrough to realize that. I have many artist friends who do beautiful work at painting what they see, some have carried that into more innovative work. Maybe I am more of an innovator because I don’t plan what I am going to paint, I just start with awareness of values, color and see what emerges. One teacher said: “Many things held together by something that I can’t see.” That is how the process feels to me. I am very engaged and feel more like I am following something that I trust in myself and at some point everything coalesces. For a long time, I thought I wasn’t as creative as people who have ideas of exactly what they want to paint, but I realized that we are just different. Both ways are good, but my way doesn’t seem to be recognized as much or taught in traditional schools. And I do value learning about values, composition, techniques, medium, color, etc, even though I break the ‘rules’ if I want to.
Hi Pamela! Reading your comments felt like I was reading about myself. Thank you for sharing a bit about yourself here... always validating to know others are similar in how they think and create art. Cheers to your artistic practice!
@@mariannemitchellwholeart I am very interested in your program and I truly love your work. I am just in another program right now that is helpful and then I want to sign up for yours. Really resonates for me (to use the overused word ‘resonate’!)
I'm not sure if I'm an innovator or if I just really want to be an innovator! But I definitely related to "constellation thinker" I love that, I might have to use it next time I'm trying to explain to someone how I don't think in straight lines! I could see myself in the others too but more replicator than copier - I can draw/sketch ok but it doesn't keep me interested. You are right they were a little confusing and I found you recapping them helpful, but I might need to have a think about it a bit more as to how it applies to my art making (I'd be interested in further vids about this concept just fyi : ). All those things that were repressed in me as a child just like you explained, I feel like I'm giving space to now at 45 through abstract art/experimenting without expectations I also wasn't good at following the rules as a child, thanks for discussing that, I also wasn't trying to be rebellious (except when I was) 😅
Hi Lena! Thanks so much for sharing a bit about yourself in response to my thoughts in this video. Admittedly, I felt a bit vulnerable is sharing this concept which I knew would elicit some agreement and some total disagreement. My thoughts come from my own self exploration both to make sense of "me" and to make sense of why/how artists I work with make the art that they do. I will think on how to further talk about this in relation to artwork examples, and how other artists use this kind of information to make their work stronger. This idea is a "Work in Progress!" so stay tuned for further developments 😊 And please! Use the term "constellation thinker!" Very empowering to those who think more clearly without a clear linear path...
@@mariannemitchellwholeart Thank you Marianne, I'm grateful to you for sharing your interesting process and especially if some of that makes you feel a little bit vulnerable! I think my confusion lay more so in me, not of the actual concept i.e. due to my constellation thinking my mind was like "well some of that applies to some parts of me, but some of the other applies to other parts of me, so which am I!?" but also as I'm in quite early stages of abstract painting, I'm using inspiration from others' work as a tool for learning so maybe more replicating for now. I envision that my own style and innovation will show itself more as I progress and develop my own ways. Ideas that float around in my mind are further away from what happens on the paper/canvas than I hope to see in future as I develop in skill. Thanks again, I look forward to more of your videos, and possibly one of your courses in future (I feel I want to explore some more on my own for now and that I would get more out of any courses once I have more experience under my belt, as back-to-front as that may sound!)
Even as a newcomer to the joys of painting, I instantly recognized myself in your categories. I'm a replicator. I'm unsure if that is related to my career as a writer, but it very possibly may be. After all, as a news and feature writer, I took initial information from others, then rearranged it to be interesting and pleasurable to others. I do not have the ability to be an illustrator, therefore a copier, nor is my strength innovating something entirely new. I'm probably a lifelong replicator who merely exchanged words for paints. Make sense?
I love your clear and honest analysis of how you interpret my thoughts here and how it’s informed your own awareness of how you “roll” in life. Excellent! Great that you’re painting now and merging words and paint. Cheers to your artistic journey!
I am me. I have had so many words laid on me. I can not put them here, you would be demonetized. Even if we kept only to the art side, it is not nice. I can do most of what you talked about. I refuse to be in ONE category. I will be and use what I want and need. I AM.
Many thanks for sharing a bit about who you are here. I admire the fact that you possess such a wide range of skill. For some people, categorizing skills and attributes can give form and meaning to who they are. for others, it is too inhibiting... and everything in between. Cheers to you!
I moved through replicater quickly into inovater. I didn't do well in school, and I dont own a cookbook. The more I studied art the more I gained the confidence to be myself artistically. To realize im not a weirdo lol.
Hi Jane, thanks for sharing your thoughts. It seems I was ineffective in conveying my intention with this video, which is to suggest a different way to think about how we "think" as it relates to our art, and life. I truly believe one way is not better than other ways of thinking. I regret that it comes across as though I am putting down copiers and replicators. I spent years wishing I was more of a copier! Wishing you well...
@@mariannemitchellwholeart it doesn't come across that way at all! Sometimes perceptions can be 100% down to the recipient of the message rather than the message giver, and I think that applies here
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Your paintings are gorgeous and I find your videos very personal and helpful. Your care for us fledgling shows. Than you so much.
Awww thank you so much Judy! We are all in "this" together! So glad hearing my thoughts is helpful to you. And great thanks for your kind words about my paintings.
Speaking from my own experience, I move fluidly operating in each mode at different times. This applies to all aspects of my life, not just my art, but in the way, I think and the way I operate in navigating the world. The composition for the painting or an individual situation or condition calls forth that part of my being that requires me to perform or create as either a copier an innovator or a replicator. I feel certain that I am part of a larger cohort of people who do similarly. Looking back on my life, I recognize there were times in the past that I operated more as a copier, and that now I definitely operate more as an innovator.
well thought through and articulated Ronne! You know yourself well, and evermore so these days! Cheers to you!
I hope your art teachers see what a great artist youve become, and that they finally understand that you had it in your mind the whole time.
Well I think most of them no longer walk this earth! A very lovely compliment from you, so appreciated.
I can fall into all three, but just because I can do something doesn’t mean I want to. the category that gives me the most satisfaction and pleasure is to innovate - and yes, that’s where empowerment lies. 🌺
I love reading your analysis of how you work as it relates to these categories, Wendy! I think it's empowering for everyone to know what works best for them as it makes one's work much stronger. Cheers!
Thank you !
This video has been educational, empowering elucidating and encouraging for me at the stage I find myself . Exactly what o need to hear .
I love knowing this! Many thanks for sharing your takeaway from this video. Cheers to your artistic practice!
Oh my- I am definitely a repressed innovator always looking for the next stimulus from outside having been harshly schooled to follow the RULES! A tribute to my resilient core that I am able to break them and my artistic soul has survived and sometimes triumphs (and sometimes doesn’t) and often resonates with discussions that illuminate my path/process. Thank you Marianne for the many ways in which you help this along. I just admit that even hearing the labels, especially “copier” put my teeth on edge, but I love constellation thinker. For myself, my life, including my art, I consider myself a searcher, a seeker, an innovator or perhaps more of a proliferator ( to cause the production of new parts, cells, buds…) hopefully in a positive way having synthesized my findings. Definitely a work in progress.
Thank YOU, Ronne! It has been a true joy to work with you, go the distance with you and experience your world as you go through it. Yes... categories can be limiting and controversial. I hope I've conveyed here that these descriptions are living breathing thoughts - always open for varied interpretations and changes. Many thanks as always for sharing a bit about yourself here. Cheers!
Could it be? I see myself in all three. I'm a little rusty, but can draw what I see (had fantastic drawing teachers in art school). I love to start with something representational and then ... dive off into form-color-line-texture within the constraints of the canvas. And finally, I was raised in a family that revered abstract art; my inner sense is that abstraction is the only way to be. All that said, I've tried being more innovative/intuitive and keep falling back into a need to have a relatable (for me) jumping-off point. I'm going to mull over being a replicator, but I think it fits. (I've also been trying REALLY HARD to be an innovator, but it's mostly exhausting.
Hi Mary! I love your comments here! It seems this way of understanding yourself resonates! Yes, it could be that you are all three... who am I to say that is impossible?!! Thanks for sharing a bit about your background here. Cheers to your artistic practice!
I found your definitions of these categories very helpful. I've been drawing, painting and making other kinds of art all my life (76 years old) and find it very interesting to consider human artistic drive, characteristics, skills and abilities grouped in these ways. Thank you, Marianne.
This is great to hear! I love that you are interested in considering "human artistic drive, characteristics, skill and abilities grouped in these ways" Cheers to your being a lifelong artist and seeker! Many thanks for sharing a bit about yourself here...
Hello. I’m Corrine. I am a retired art teacher and painter. I struggled most of my life trying to be a copier and a replicator because I wanted to be like everyone else… not knowing that I was an innovator and that that type of artist was ok. Many art schools are not set up for people like us? I love to just start painting and let the painting tell me what to do. Interesting talk.
Hello Corrine! Thank you for sharing your story here, I resonate! Cheers to your artistic practice...
Marianne, I am experimenting with all types of art forms. Formally a metalsmith, but currently I am loving watercolor paints. My frustration is with drawing and painting is that I keep trying to paint looser and more passionately. I have often been told I can draw and paint realistic very well but I don't always feel a satisfaction in hearing this. How will I find my voice if I resist what's comfortable for me. But I do have moments of quick paintings that feel more satisfying. I'm constantly looking for classes to learn different ways to paint but would really love to find my voice and know how and why I want to paint. Thanks for your video..its really got me thinking....Debi (copier? )
Hi Debi! So glad to hear your "Story" here... SO many artists I work with voice a similar frustration about wanting to find their voice. My "mission" through Whole Artist Mastery is to help artists find, and "own" their voice, which then leads to making compelling work, and ultimately greater self awareness and confidence in who you are as an artist. I invite you to consider a Whole Artist Mastery Mentorship program, and, plans are in the works for launching an online course called "Own Your Voice" hopefully in Spring of 2025. Stay tuned! Many thanks for your comment and interest... cheers to your artistic journey!
Thank you Marianne. This is a very useful clarification to me. Gave me more vision to start assuming what I am ❤ I’m in the process of writing a statement for my work.
Many thanks for your comment... glad it was helpful to you!
Totally resonate with what you have said here.....i have spent years trying to let go of the idea that to be a good artist - or even just an 'artist' - i had to be able to draw realistically....i struggled for so long trying to do that, but mostly just didn't enjoy that process....once i found that what i loved to do is express from inside myself, respond to what i see emerging on the canvas and find the joy in creating something that made sense to me!! I'm absolutely an innovator type....but having said that i also felt pretty at home being a bit of a replicator....meaning i might start off with an inspiring photo i'd taken at the beach and then very quickly let go of that and just responded to what was appearing in front of me. this is such a wonderful confirmation of who we are as individuals and unique people! many thanks once again for your insightful thoughts! cheers, linda
it's wonderful to know that my thoughts here resonated with you, Linda. Thank you so much for sharing your story here and your feeling of confirmation about how YOU are an artist! Cheers to you...
I think you've put some well considered thought into the spectrum that visual artists find themselves. My beef is with the words themselves. I know many many artists none of whom would proudly exclaim "I'm a copier!" or "I'm a replicator." Probably all of them would rather say they are innovators. In my oil painting I'm what you would call a replicator, but as a writer I'm an innovator, so I'm going to innovate new terms for you to consider. This, as another innovator will know, might take me some time. But I promise to begin now!
Think I've got it . Capture, Transform, Innovate.
Thank you Jan for such a great lens on all of this. I so appreciate that the "innovator writer" in you will come up with new terms... I welcome them and look forward to continuing the conversation with you. Cheers!
Interesting. I can draw what I see but artists/friends who’ve focused on developing those skills for years do it better , but I am not very interested in developing it, even though I admire it. I was brought up in classical everything. I don’t regret it. I learned a lot, but I felt very constrained by it. I am much more relaxed and happy improvising in dance, music, painting, which is scary for many people. It was a breakthrough to realize that. I have many artist friends who do beautiful work at painting what they see, some have carried that into more innovative work. Maybe I am more of an innovator because I don’t plan what I am going to paint, I just start with awareness of values, color and see what emerges. One teacher said: “Many things held together by something that I can’t see.” That is how the process feels to me. I am very engaged and feel more like I am following something that I trust in myself and at some point everything coalesces. For a long time, I thought I wasn’t as creative as people who have ideas of exactly what they want to paint, but I realized that we are just different. Both ways are good, but my way doesn’t seem to be recognized as much or taught in traditional schools. And I do value learning about values, composition, techniques, medium, color, etc, even though I break the ‘rules’ if I want to.
Hi Pamela! Reading your comments felt like I was reading about myself. Thank you for sharing a bit about yourself here... always validating to know others are similar in how they think and create art. Cheers to your artistic practice!
@@mariannemitchellwholeart I am very interested in your program and I truly love your work. I am just in another program right now that is helpful and then I want to sign up for yours. Really resonates for me (to use the overused word ‘resonate’!)
I'm not sure if I'm an innovator or if I just really want to be an innovator! But I definitely related to "constellation thinker" I love that, I might have to use it next time I'm trying to explain to someone how I don't think in straight lines! I could see myself in the others too but more replicator than copier - I can draw/sketch ok but it doesn't keep me interested.
You are right they were a little confusing and I found you recapping them helpful, but I might need to have a think about it a bit more as to how it applies to my art making (I'd be interested in further vids about this concept just fyi : ). All those things that were repressed in me as a child just like you explained, I feel like I'm giving space to now at 45 through abstract art/experimenting without expectations
I also wasn't good at following the rules as a child, thanks for discussing that, I also wasn't trying to be rebellious (except when I was) 😅
Hi Lena! Thanks so much for sharing a bit about yourself in response to my thoughts in this video. Admittedly, I felt a bit vulnerable is sharing this concept which I knew would elicit some agreement and some total disagreement. My thoughts come from my own self exploration both to make sense of "me" and to make sense of why/how artists I work with make the art that they do. I will think on how to further talk about this in relation to artwork examples, and how other artists use this kind of information to make their work stronger. This idea is a "Work in Progress!" so stay tuned for further developments 😊
And please! Use the term "constellation thinker!" Very empowering to those who think more clearly without a clear linear path...
@@mariannemitchellwholeart Thank you Marianne, I'm grateful to you for sharing your interesting process and especially if some of that makes you feel a little bit vulnerable!
I think my confusion lay more so in me, not of the actual concept i.e. due to my constellation thinking my mind was like "well some of that applies to some parts of me, but some of the other applies to other parts of me, so which am I!?" but also as I'm in quite early stages of abstract painting, I'm using inspiration from others' work as a tool for learning so maybe more replicating for now. I envision that my own style and innovation will show itself more as I progress and develop my own ways. Ideas that float around in my mind are further away from what happens on the paper/canvas than I hope to see in future as I develop in skill.
Thanks again, I look forward to more of your videos, and possibly one of your courses in future (I feel I want to explore some more on my own for now and that I would get more out of any courses once I have more experience under my belt, as back-to-front as that may sound!)
I’m a mixed media 🤷♀️ Ty for what u do💜
Many thanks for watching and commenting!
Even as a newcomer to the joys of painting, I instantly recognized myself in your categories. I'm a replicator. I'm unsure if that is related to my career as a writer, but it very possibly may be. After all, as a news and feature writer, I took initial information from others, then rearranged it to be interesting and pleasurable to others. I do not have the ability to be an illustrator, therefore a copier, nor is my strength innovating something entirely new. I'm probably a lifelong replicator who merely exchanged words for paints. Make sense?
I love your clear and honest analysis of how you interpret my thoughts here and how it’s informed your own awareness of how you “roll” in life. Excellent! Great that you’re painting now and merging words and paint. Cheers to your artistic journey!
I am me. I have had so many words laid on me. I can not put them here, you would be demonetized. Even if we kept only to the art side, it is not nice. I can do most of what you talked about. I refuse to be in ONE category. I will be and use what I want and need. I AM.
Many thanks for sharing a bit about who you are here. I admire the fact that you possess such a wide range of skill. For some people, categorizing skills and attributes can give form and meaning to who they are. for others, it is too inhibiting... and everything in between. Cheers to you!
Yup. Sounds familiar 😊
Glad to resonates! Thanks for commenting!
I moved through replicater quickly into inovater. I didn't do well in school, and I dont own a cookbook. The more I studied art the more I gained the confidence to be myself artistically. To realize im not a weirdo lol.
Too bad, I am a weirdo.
Thank you for sharing a bit about yourself here. I'm glad to know you're gaining confidence in your artistic expression. 🙂
You seem to be putting down copiers and replicators. An arrogant artist attitude!
Hi Jane, thanks for sharing your thoughts. It seems I was ineffective in conveying my intention with this video, which is to suggest a different way to think about how we "think" as it relates to our art, and life. I truly believe one way is not better than other ways of thinking. I regret that it comes across as though I am putting down copiers and replicators. I spent years wishing I was more of a copier! Wishing you well...
@@mariannemitchellwholeart it doesn't come across that way at all! Sometimes perceptions can be 100% down to the recipient of the message rather than the message giver, and I think that applies here
@@mariannemitchellwholeart I felt the opposite, that you validated all three and tried to overcome the mentality that one is better or best.
@@SteffaniPowell thanks so much for saying so!