Bill Maher Talks Fat Shaming With Adam Carolla
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- In his HBO show, Bill Maher said, "Fat shaming doesn't need to end it needs to make a comeback." Bill sits down with Adam Carolla to discuss the American obesity epidemic and James Corden's response to it.
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The cigarette manufacturers missed a trick in the 80s. They should’ve called it smoke shaming.
They would have been laughed at in the 80s just like people to be laughed at now.
At some point we started to allow the children to make the rules.
Society wasn't dumb enough to buy it back then.
I would have used "my body my choice". lol
People weren't retarded in the 80s bro
That's excellent. It made me think about some of their other options with identity politics. If they could produce a study showing that 'trans men' smoked to look manly ..
Bill missed a great opportunity to say, "We need to be a 'can do' society, not a Mt. Dew society."
I’ll treat myself to a can of Mountain Dew on a rare occasion 🥸 but srsly, you’re right, and don’t need to buy 2L of the stuff. Drink water.
Send that one in, maybe he'll use it.
You my friend, nailed it. I came to the comments to say this, and you beat me to it! Well played.
@@sasshiro Grape juice with few ice cubes instead of Mt Dew.
I drink almost explicitly Mt dew and I'm not obese.
Totally agree with Bill. Feel much better after losing 100 lbs. had to get knee replacements, got diabetes, no energy, didnt want to go out in public, eating junk to feel better, I was a mess.
it's also bad when family, spouse, roommates, etc. SHAME YOU for getting back into shape and eating mildly better
That's wonderful. Hope you are feeling much better
I’m happy that you managed to do this. Keep up the good work. I know how difficult it can be sometimes.
Everybody, including myself, who was heavy and lost weight feels better. Everybody, including myself, who was in shape and slipped out, feels worse.
I don't know a single person, who if given the choice, wouldn't be fit and healthy.
The thing is that for most of us, it is a choice.
Glad you pulled through brother 🤘
Bill is correct. My mom changed her diet and started exercising. She lost something like 60 lbs and looked great. All of her friends started calling her "skinny bitch", rather than congratulate her on her hard work and dedication.
Some people would rather put someone down than give some their flowers. I remember an older, out of shape gentleman told me that all my muscle will turn to fat when I get older. That was over 20 years ago. Some people are just ignorant along with being insecure. Gratz to your mom. That a big accomplishment.
That is so sad. I can second that. It’s especially bad for women.
She made them look bad. Cannot have that.
Time for new friends
I am a cancer survivor and had to go through rehab therapy............ people don't believe me and continue to call me a skinny bitch instead of respecting my journey and the *work* it takes to care for your health. People need to look at themselves instead of blaming everyone else.
At one point in my life I was a little over 700 pounds. No, that wasn't a typo: I was 2 obese people's worth of FAT. I'm still over 300 pounds, and I'm still working to lose more. I had no problem with people "fat-shaming" me, because no one was more ashamed of it than I was (okay, maybe my wife, but her love was stronger than her shame.) I learned early from my mom that I have an innate worth, and that my physical characteristics are only one part of me. No one can tell me it's healthy to be obese. You can say you know it's a risk you accept, or like I did you can say you're trying to change, but the idea we can't have a simple, FACTUAL discussion without "Woke" silliness is an indication of how close we are to self-destruction.
Finding your own worth is sometimes hard but it is what life is all about, do not stop searching.
@@richardthompson6366 I now have 3 college degrees, and I teach at a charter school which mainly serves Native American children (I like to share my own cultural background.) My kids lose their minds when they see the 700+ pound picture of me. My whole existence is now helping students find their own answers, BTW - I TEACH, but I do not indoctrinate. That's becoming a rare thing.
Used to b a drug addict, now I’m clean have been for over a year, Lifes a struggle let’s get through it brotha.
@Random Eskimo keep up the good work and stay strong….god bless
@@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies That's a great story, all the best to you.
Bill is spot on. I was a personal trainer for years. I couldn't take excuses from adults any longer. Grown men and women playing dumb acting like at 50 years old they didn't realize that coffee with whipped cream on top has calories. Happened all the time once a had a wife lecture me on fairness and the struggles of women because I suggested that she have fewer calories than her husband that was more than a foot taller than her. If getting off sugar is the hardest thing you have had to do then you have had a spoiled life.
Atheist Monk: I'm not a professional like you are, so I just want to ask if it's Possible that there's something aside from being spoiled behind the excuses and refusal to take responsibility?
Why do people overeat? From what I've read and heard, it's usually and generally emotional, psychological, and sometimes, social.
So many people of all ages are straight up depressed, afraid, angry, lonely, anxious, etc. Stress eating isn't about being hungry.
For many people, "playing dumb" and "acting like they didn't know" about having whipped cream with their coffee wasn't healthy is a shame thing, not simply playing dumb.
Also, as Maher mentioned, earlier generations didn't have a problem with this stuff because they didn't dwell on what they didn't have; they worked hard and exercised it off by walking, dancing, and playing games and sports. These are things we don't do on the scale they did, so they were better at managing their weight, stress levels, and emotional life (with the help of family and friends).
At any rate, I wanted to find out what you think about the question I asked
@@LA_HA no, it's because the corporate food industry produces more hyper palatable, super high calorie, artificial junk foods now compared to decades in the past. People had stress back in the day too, but they didin't have Doritos, microwave pizza roles and endless Mountain Dews available to cope with.
I'd say this to them you can lead a dog to water but once their they will eat their own shit
@@Simon-talks Not sure what you mean by hyper palatable, but I agree we do have more foods with preservatives to last longer than a few days or weeks, people in the day Did have a variety of fattening foods. They had soda pop (they had specialized soda fountains and candy stores).
They made cakes, chocolate, hamburgers, pancakes, bacon, etc -- and they made it with lots of pure butter, lard, syrups, and sugar (which there have been arguments were actually Better than the artificial stuff we supplement with in the contemporary era).
Good health is a combination game. I just meant there's more to things that meets the eye, but generally, we just know they had a good diet with exercise. Junk food was a treat for special outings and occasions. They weren't nearly the couch potatoes we got to be.
haha
@@LA_HA Lots there to digest. It's the sum of everything. The difference between an old push-blade mower, push mower and rider for example. Of hanging your laundry vs dropping it into a machine. Of preparing, cooking and cleaning your meals vs Domino's delivery. Just tons of everyday movement that has been replaced either mechanically or is simply no longer needed.
We don't think of walking down the driveway to pick up the morning paper as anything, but do that 365 times a year, and it adds up. Just think if you had to get up to change the channel every time....little things add up.
My question is why isn't everybody fat? We have inexpensive food (both good and bad), delivery on demand, and nobody to tell you stop. I think we all have eaten a bag of Oreo's or pint of Ben and Jerry's without thinking before we realized. Food is good and easy.
As for the coffee...that's not out of line. I drink 3-5 cups a day. I used to put in a couple of Half and Half little cups. I didn't think about the calories of those little cups. Turns out there's about 20per. I would use 2-3 a cup - let's say an extra 100cl a day. That's 36,000 calories a year, and yes, I did not think about that for 30yrs. But then again, that demonstrates how with a little knowledge and awareness, you can take easy steps to keep off/lose weight.
I'm a radiologist. One reason I 'opted out' of taking care of patients directly...I couldn't take the laziest that the average American has with taking responsibility for one's own well being. And I sure as hell wasn't going to waste my time lecturing adults who weren't going to actually take my advice to heart. 20 years later, I'm thrilled to have made the choice I did. And now if you criticize an obese person you're 'fat shaming' them? My god.
I can't stand people that lie to make people feel better .. I was 335 pounds and I didn't have one friend that told me hey man you need ti get your weight under control . But the opposite you look good , you carry the weight well , etc. I've lost 135 pounds and it still pisses me off thinking about it
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON nobody cares that you ate a fad diet
It can be a hard position. Sometimes saying something wont be recieved well. Most large people know theyre fat and hate it when people bring it up and want people to leave them alone. Its a damned if you do, damned if you dont thing. Your friends love you, if they didnt say anything its probably because they didnt want to hurt your feelings especially if you seemed fine.
@@hithere8140 So what do you do? Obesity in the family. Not one individual will address it….. what do you do?
@@mrdave777 i cant say, everybody's different and so will be their reaction if you call it out. Its not like they dont know theyre large. If they have an i dont care, leave me alone attitude, let them be. Pestering doesn't work. At the most maybe offering support for when theyre ready to make a change. Just like a drug addiction its ultimately up to them.
He's forgetting that grocery stores looked VERY different 50 years ago. And most of the time one person was actually at home to cook food.
“Nothing is in so need of reform as other people’s habits.” - Mark Twain
Hearing fat shaming from my wife and doctor helped me to go from 345 to 215 in 14 months. Bill Maher is 100% correct.
Was it fat shaming or you were told your blood pressure and cholesterol were high and you're either diabetic or diabetic? Fat shaming don't work. Think about it. If fat shaming works, you won't have reached 345lbs right? To be fair, fat acceptance is also harmful.
Thats awesome, I bet you feel much better too
Some go your way,others kill themselves.
@Brian Z how to help someone who is so deep in his/her own ass that he/she doesn't want to listen anyone? 100 people should invest lots of their time and money so that one dumb fuck realizes that eating that much is killing him? Raise your kids so they can accept criticism and these things won't happen.
@@ronoconnor8796 If they kill themselves for something they can control then maybe they should since they are so stupid
I was in a doctor's office a couple of weeks ago and I was watching The Price Is Right on the TV. As some of the prizes were shown and the prices are given I figured it had to have been taped in the 80s, so the shows were around 40 years old. What was amazing was that nobody was fat. I did not see one fat woman or man on the show.
People have a tendency to gain weight as they get older. But, when I see obese 20 YO girls I can just imagine what is in store for them in 30 years.
I was born in early 70s. Very few kids were fat then. Like one kid in class was fat and would be picked on for it. Now, all kids are fat. Almost.
Go to a home for the very elderly. Look around and try to find someone who made it to 70 or 80 while obese. You won't.
@@javagirl69 my grandmother of the wwII generation was obese her whole life and she made it to 101. But she didn't grow up eating tv dinners.
They’ll be dead probly
I looked at my high school annual of 40 years ago. The boys in basketball team group shots looked like they had escaped from concentration camps. I went to Europe to live and there were no fat children. The only fat people in Prague were middle-aged women with big busts, like pigeons. it was shocking to return to the US and be in a place like Sam's Club and realize every person pushing a basket was overweight.@@edp3202
I was in a meeting and a guy was talking to me and began: "You skinny guys..." I'm not skinny. I'm 5'10" 170 pounds which gives me a BMI of 24.4. (25 would be overweight) But being overweight is so common people of a healthy weight appear to be skinny. The guy who said it to me is about 6' and 250 pounds, a BMI of 33.9 which is not just overweight but obese.
Body fat percentage is important than BMI.
I was told by a fat girl that I have an 'eating disorder'.....I weight 197 lbs at 5'11 and 12% bodyfat.....
I knew I would get pushback when I mentioned BMI but despite its imperfections, it is still a somewhat useful if imprecise rule-of-thumb. I only used it because I don't know the body fat % or have a "metabolic sydnrome" diagnosis.
BF% is the only true measure. BMI is nonsense
Disagree. I know some people dislike anything that is even slightly ambiguous and imprecise but it's not binary good vs bad. Imprecise tools such as BMI exist because they are easy to use.
Lost major weight and it saved my life. Bill is right, full stop
I don’t really buy the whole poor people can’t get good food. Pre packaged food is SO EXPENSIVE. Seriously, I’m a middle class mom of three and there is no way I can afford all of the snacks and pre made items. It’s waaaaay cheaper to buy fresh produce and meat than anything else in the store.
Thank you, that's a great point. If I'm cooking at home, steak, potatoes, and broccoli for example, I can eat like a king for about $12. And that's on the expensive side for everything I cook at home.
I can't even believe people drink that shit on a regular basis. A couple times a year, for a "treat", I get a Costco hotdog and pop (soda) but I never take the sugary drink. I'm good with water for 90% of my meals. The other 10% is a beer or some wine.
Bravo, you sir or ma’am (or other) are a beacon of light.
@Cam D I probably would lol, I love candy even pixie sticks
I do like flavored coffee, I only drink it a couple/few times a year. I’m not a big coffee drinker in the first place. And like you, I drink mostly water, it’s inexpensive, healthy, and it’s refreshing.
There’s no such thing as ‘fat shaming’.
What the woke crowd call ‘fat shaming’ is really just normal, decent people discussing the current medical and health epidemic of obesity in the USA.
It is 'fat shaming' because it makes people be ashamed, of their not doing what they should to stay healthy, of their weakness, of their folly. Holding a mirror before a fat person is fat shaming.
Yeah, there are some situations where negative reinforcement is needed. Lying to them just makes them eat more -- making the situation even worse.
stop 'logic and common sense' shaming me
Whilst I do agree that we should be promoting a more healthy culture to help lower obesity rates to say there is no fatshaming at all is simply delusional. Saying things like "Kill yourself you fat fucking pig" is not exactly a civil discussion about medical and health epidemics. It doesn't make sense to be dishonest about this reality if we already believe ourselves to be correct in the fact that fat is killing thousands of people and that it needs to stop ASAP.
@@xhagast So is telling someone to take medication to control their high blood pressure "blood pressure shaming?" Please, make it make sense.
There’s no need for shaming, that’s not even what Maher is talking about. He simply wants to be able to simply TALK about the risks of being overweight without being cancelled. Even discussing obesity is considered to be some kind of sin or social faux pas.
My dad was born in the early 40s and before he passed he had mentioned how fat people had gotten. Like back in his day it was very rare to see one. Look at curly from the 3 stooges, he was fat for his day but he'd be normal now.
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON Mostly Big Agriculture wanted to sell their products
Ive lost 20kg with another 10kg to go. My heartburn has disappeared, I (mostly) stopped snoring, I don't get puffed walking up the stairs and I can pull my weight (haha) on the farm and not feel like a major loser because my husband has to do the bulk of the work. As the saying goes, losing weight is hard but being fat is harder.
I love hearing stuff like this! Keep up the good work 👏🏼
Fat shaming doesn't work. It just makes people defensive and angry. It doesn't make the person feel empowered to make the changes needed to get better. It is better to just talk about obesity as a serious health issue. Showing people how to change their bad eating habits might prompt them to try to improve their habits and their health.
When I lost weight, people asked me what my secret was. I said there is no secret, I stopped eating so much. It's a real simple concept.
I remember not so many decades ago when the electric cart at the grocery store was for people who broke a leg, or possibly a 90 pound 90 year old lady who couldn't walk all over the store. Now the carts seem exclusively for obese people. If I was so fat that I needed mechanical assistance to get around the store to buy the food that keeps me obese...I would think my life took a serious wrong turn somewhere. If I was that heavy, I think I would stay home and die of embarrassment before I rode the scooter down the ice cream aisle, then the frozen pizza aisle, then through the bakery, etc. The right yells "freedom" at this problem and the left yells "don't fat shame!" Well, with freedom comes responsibility (and the reality of your health care costs--in dollars and beyond--are not mitigated by invoking "freedom"), and if pointing out a serious health problem causes bad feelings, tough.
Just curious, if a obese person were to fall on a small child and kill it, will that person be charged with murder and tried accordingly or will s(he) be given a free pass?
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke my guess would be if ruled an accident it would be involuntary manslaughter as the fat person didn’t mean to do it but there’s still a dead child and punishment must still be given. That would still be probably 10+ years in jail
Your right..I never thought of that regarding the electric carts. Every major grocery store has electric carts and the individual using it isn't always injured or old. Bill makes another point about people in the 60's compared to today. Look at old pictures from 40's,50's,60's and and it's rare to see obese people. Now it's rare to see a thin person in photos today.
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke falling is not a crime.
@@main_stream_media_is_a_joke --- Charged with murder-by-the-ton.
Low income people poor countries are able to eat well on primarily vegan food since meat and dairy can cost more. Beans, grains, spices, coconut milk, onions, garlic, tomatoes, water...it can be done to eat well on a budget, it just takes effort.
100% correct
I'd do the vegan diet if it didn't make me fart so much.
What I hate seeing in America is people laughing at "fatties" who ARE working out.
Like WHY. You wanted that! That's the thing you wanted!
No one is laughing at anyone trying to lose weight.
@n a You are lying to me and worse yourself to deny it
@@fettel1988 that never happens. that's a fake excuse overweight people say to not go to the gym
@@RevolutionMuscle Yes they do. People like to watch overweight people struggling to lift or go on a jog because it looks like they are really struggling. Sometimes it just looks comical. Even I think it but then I usually ask myself “funny is it? Well why aren’t you running right now?”
True but fuck anyone hating anyways. You know why you're there so just put in the work and ignore em.
it never feels good to be called fat. now telling someone they would be much more handsome or pretty if they lost 40bls is not negatively fat shaming. and it never hurt my feelings when people would say that to me. then i ended up losing 100lbs because my friend's sister said she would sleep with me if i lost weight.
Tell that to the activists.
😂 did she? ♂️
@@edp3202 hahaha Nope =) she slept with all of our other friends except me >.
@@nilocnaughton awwwwwwwwww
I can get the "pretty or handsome" argument, but the biggest issue is that it's not healthy.
It's not "shaming", actually it's trying to help people save themself
I really gained a lot of respect for Bill man.
Make fun of both sides who deserve it.
Bill does not make fun of both sides. He gets upset if you make fun of his side or worse, him.
I used to be fat. I am a 5ft 2in woman. I never weighed myself at 200lbs, but I bet I got up there at least once without realizing.
I hovered in the 190s for years.
One thing I can tell you, trying to motivate me using my looks or social status or being able to fit in clothes never worked. I was fat since I was young. Being fat was familiar. It was comfortable. As much as I disliked how I looked, the superficial reason of "looking prettier" wasn't enough to get me to change.
Not to mention, almost all of the many diets I tried made me extremely ravenous (there are diets which don't do this, like keto and zero carb where you will typically be more satisfied after meals, but these were the old days when the diets were things like weight watchers and south beach etc).
I started truly changing my diet after major health issues cropped up. And I also finally recognized that I had a sugar addiction.
Breaking the sugar addiction was the single best thing I have ever done. It allowed the rest of my diet changes to be, if not easy, at least WAY easier. I've been 4 years sugar free. Getting off sugar didn't make me lose weight, but it allowed me to have more conscious control over my diet. Trying to change your diet while having a food addiction is basically inviting failure, I think.
Once I got control over my addiction, I started intermittent fasting. I lost a ton of weight that way. Then, once I stopped that, I started doing a diet which was designed to help my specific health issues. It's similar to keto, but somewhat more restrictive.
I am now 135lbs. My health is much improved. (Including things I never anticipated, like my sleep being MUCH better, my energy being much higher, my brain fog being all but gone, no more acid reflux, and my extremely persistent and painful adult acne is gone now, too)
My advice to anyone trying to "motivate" people to lose weight, save your breath. Losing weight shouldn't be the goal. It should be breaking food addictions or healing their ailments. It should be to feel better, not look better.
Show them people online who have actually succeeded and how they did it. Show them that change is truly possible.
And one thing to acknowledge: it's usually not their fault. Yes, I know some people might to try and argue with me. But you're wrong. The vast majority of extremely obese people were overweight or obese in childhood. Most of their food addictions we're started in childhood. And over the years, the food industry has only gotten better at making their foods more and more addictive. I know Bill here thinks food was just as "tasty" in the 60s. And he's right. But it wasn't as addictive. And the most addictive ones were not as cheap or prevalent or convenient as they are now.
But just because it's not their fault, that doesn't give them an excuse. "It's not your fault, but it is your problem."
We sometimes have to fix problems we didn't cause. That's life. No, it's not fair. But suck it up, butter cup. No one is going to give you a better life except you.
Great post! Wish i knew 20 years ago what i know now about nutrition.... it's really shocking and sad to see so many obese people in America... in 20 years the health industry is going to be completely overwhelmed.
👏👏
The interesting question for me is, if we as a society believe in liberty and the right to pursue happiness, don't we also have a right to disrespect our bodies at least to some degree? When we start pounding our fists on the table that health care is a human right and the government should provide it, we also give that same government the power to define health and thus our behavior. I don't think our government functions correctly with the power it has now. Why would I want to give it more control over my decisions?
Yes you do, but then you can't ask society for help with your medical bills. With complete freedom comes complete responsibility.
@@itsMartinzito Absolutely agree.
Yes, we should instead give that power to profit driven companies that'll overcharge us on everything just so they can make a buck. You know, freedom.
@@leifanderson3487 I didn't realize those are our only two options.
How did we get from "You lost weight? You look great!" to "How dare you lose weight?" in under a generation is insane.
Totally agree took added sugar out diet lost 30 pounds in six months and my hay fever went away, didn’t exercise anymore than I used to. I am not fat shaming I am worried about your health.
I understand the uncomfortableness with being overweight, I lost over 100 pounds over 3 years and it was really hard, I was making progress slowly but I still seemed heavy to everyone. It’s an unhealthy choice you can’t really hide. Drugs/alcohol can have the same stigma once it’s visible. It’s difficult to have everyone see your coping strategies and see that they are failing. So I get it, no we shouldn’t be out there calling a heavier person fatty or whatever….but to not call out someone like Tess Holiday for doing damage to young people’s mental health is ridiculous. Girls like Eugenia Cooney get called out yet she isn’t off the internet when that poor baby soul seems on the verge of death at all times. There isn’t any shame in bringing awareness to a health crisis in our country.
I was the fat kid through late K-12. Not the funny fat. JUST fat.
And yeah. Never have I ever wanted to harm myself more and be seen less.
@@fettel1988 I’m so sorry you had to go through that, it was the same for me my guy, I’ve never felt more alone, worthless, or disgusted with myself then being fat in school. I think it does a lot of damage to our sense of self worth and ability to make better decisions for ourselves as we might think deep down we don’t deserve it.
But we do, and we deserve healthy bodies to enjoy those choices. I hope you’ve since been working to put that trauma in the right box, I know I’ve been trying to.
I lost the weight I mentioned after I graduated college, Ive struggled to keep the weight off over the years, and have people that still ask me if I plan on losing weight as if I haven’t lost any. People just suck, that doesn’t seem to change no matter what I look like hahaha.
Wishing you the best, you’re not alone :)
@@mariannewhite383 It's the worst time of one's life to have problems of any sort. Kids don't have filters, so the words and acts come out first. Realization comes later if at all, and the damage is long done.
Congratulations 🤘
Yeah it's almost as if our medical system and food distribution system is exerting influence to keep people on the brink of death so they can mine American dollars from them.
Yes! I know someone who is obese and she continues to eat ice cream, pasta, etc.... But screams for harsh mask mandates. She is in her twenties, doesn't work, lives at home, and her family states that this is "inherited". No responsibility, no ownership. Only blame and indulgence.
yes, fat liberals have used masks(face diapers) to overshadow their personal health habit disasters
Well, mask mandates in the right situation are a good thing.
The point he’s making is people who clearly have no interest in taking care of themselves project it on to the public. Some of the most ardent supporters I’ve come across for the mandates have been people who are very overweight and it is hypocritical.
@@jolietjake4743 agree! I know parents who allow their children to become obese and keep feeding them ice cream and pasta and now keep stating that all those who do not get a 4th shot are endangering the children.
@@bobfg3130 the right situation?
I lost 90 pounds in 2017 and I've kept the weight off. People don't need fat shaming. They need love and a blueprint on how to do it. ANd they need to be ready to do the work.
Come on. It totally makes sense that one person now eats what fed a family of four 40 years ago. It takes great sacrifice to be willing to consume all that food that no one else could use.
4:22 50 years ago we didn't have: (1) low-fat food (it contributes to obesity, surprisingly), (2) corn syrup everywhere, (3) GMO food, (4) hormones in the US meat supply, (5) the destruction of the middle class which started in the late 1970s when the real wages in the US stopped rising after almost 150 years of steady growth.
Glad Adam cleared everyone out, he should do that for every interview
Simply put, the truth and personal responsibility and accountability have been under attack for a long time. It’s great to hear Bill Maher explain that so articulately. Very smart guy…for a lefty.
Went from 215 to now 155 in three and a half months.. Going to 145. 50% was soda and portion size. The other 50% was just tracking my calories and maintaining a deficit of about 500 calories a day.
You can do it America.
Fat shaming … there should be more of it
Why the need for any shaming? Why can’t we just discuss it, and the dangers and risks of being obese, and what to do about it?
@Cris T we do that now, we need to bring back shaming of all kinds
@@62Cristoforo Because some things are shameful and if we don’t do it ,it becomes normal. Like being fat,being a rainbow mutant and being stupid. The human race is doomed because of a failure to shame the very things that inhibit the survival of the species. Enjoy the ride,we’re all circling the toilet of existence because idealistic idiots propagandized the world and made copious amounts of cashish doing it. And clearly empathetic simps won’t see the error of their ways until it’s too late. For all of us. My heart goes out to the children that are being robbed of their precious childhood on a daily basis. Reprehensible.
100%. Bring back slut shaming too while we’re at it - another serious problem causing untold long term societal damage, and which stems from a lack of self-control individually and a lack of shame socially.
Bill is right on target with this issue as he is so often right on many social and political issues. It's good to see at least one celebrity who is not afraid to tell it like it really is.
I totally see Bill's point. But as a fat person, it's just not that easy. And as for fat shaming, how am I supposed to lose weight when I'm crying from everyone telling me what a piece of a shit I am all day? I've been dieting and exercising since I was 8 and constantly made fun of for it. If I could change it that easy, I would, but it doesn't mean I'm not constantly trying.
I think Bill was incorrect for using the word 'easy'. Losing weight is a simple concept (calories in, calories out), but it is not easy at all to implement and stick to over a long period of time. Especially living in the US
Good topic 👏
Agreed! I work in health care and it's surprising when people who weigh 300+lbs don't understand why their knee hurts. This country is so focused on food, salt and sugar that it's not easy to find affordable quality food to consume. Bill is right about drinking something other than soda with every meal.
Great interview! The host basically let the guest talk, with minor interjections to help keep the guest going. Take notes, you hosts out there!
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON Elaborate if you're so inclined.
@NOTREALLY HANKAARON
I have struggled with weight my whole life. I never have wanted anyone to coddle me whenever I was in a heavy unhealthy stage. Bill is exactly right! I am an advocate for access to healthcare for all citizens but it’s imperative that we address root causes by encouraging healthier behaviour. Michelle Obama was spot on when she encouraged fitness and dietary improvements in children.
At this point prevention is better than curing. Keep pushing. You got this. This stranger believes in you.
@@TheFruitney thank you! I wholeheartedly agree! You’re the sweetest I appreciate it!
@5:30 - it is difficult to keep up, but cutting out soda completely, and literally nothing else, generally drops me about 5-10 pounds within 2 weeks. Imagine if I did that and went for a short walk every other day!
That is why I have money in Coca Cola stock. We like things that are bad for us.
@@xhagast amen to that! As i light another cigarette and drink my 6th beer!
Registered Dieticians get continuing education credits from Coca-Cola,amongst other big food conglommos.
@@xhagast Everything in moderation as they used to say... gotta have some fun right, we all end up in the ground anyways!
@@xSayPleasex Lol, in Taras Bulba, Yul Briner sang a song, "If we drink we will die, if we don't drink we will die so we may as well say whatta hey and fill our cups with drink!"
When I began my career as an RN in 1978 it was unusual to have a patient over 300 pounds. Now the hospital has had to get wider wheelchairs and chairs for waiting rooms and it isn’t unusual to have a patient over 400 pounds. Some patients are angry at the hospital when they are too heavy for the OR or cath lab tables. It did not used to be normal to eat in your car. A normal size of potato chip bag was 1ounce. Now the “normal” size is over two ounces. Don’t get me started….
I started working at a hospital in 1981 fixing equipment for patient care. There were no patient lifts at that hospital back then, nurses had to lift the patients themselves. Many nurses started to hurt themselves and in the 1990's they started installing lifts that could lift 500 lbs and beds that could handle that much weight. Today, the lifts and beds need to be rated at 1000 lbs.
"do you think cake wasn't delicious in 1969?" 😂😂
You can find good deals on healthy food on a low income. When I was a single mom we got our groceries at Walmart. Sometimes Trader Joe’s (I had a whole system worked out). Lots of meats n leaves options there! Cheaper than chips n coke!
My gf both got easier jobs. We were less active and gaining weight.
We recently started taking a short walk each day.
Not only are we losing weight, we're getting sunshine, we bond away from our screens and we are mentally happier as well
Yes Bill you are so right about the obesity problem here in America...As a former "FATTY" who gone through the humiliation of being fat shamed, snickered at it definitely hurts and now by the grace of God and some much needed determination I have turned my life around...Many years ago I weighed an astonishing 350 pounds...I was downright miserable... Just to take a short 10 minutes shower I was literally out of breath...Then in 2013 I had a massive stroke which nearly killed me...After a lot of physical and mental rehabilitation and much needed exercise I am now at 190 pounds and I feel great praise almighty God...I just want to ask our Lord and Savior to please watch oner anybody man or woman who is struggling with a weight problem to please guide them to a possible healthier life before it's too late🙏🙏🙏...
I was over weight and in poor health and I said to my doctor, "I know, I need to lose weight." And he said, "yes you do!." I was taken aback because all your friends and family say, nooo, you're fine, but it was what I needed! I lost 75 pounds, turned my health around and haven't looked back. I have a coworker with the same experience. He went in for foot or knee surgery because he was obese and the doctor said to him, I'll see you back here in 6 months to do the other one because you're so fat. He got gastric bypass and took weight off. Sometimes tough love is what's needed. The truth can hurt but that doesn't mean we should continue to live a lie, telling ourselves that you can be overweight and healthy.
I was only mildly overweight and it was already causing high blood pressure. So I had to start eating healthier -- it is a struggle, but dying is worse.
why is it a struggle to eat real food?
@@Simon-talks I guarantee if we pick through your life we would find plenty of flaws.
@@1986subway yep, just not gluttony, laziness, obesity or waste
@@Simon-talks How you doing on PRIDE buddy? Your shit posting on every comment.
Bill's right. Cutting out soda removes a lot of empty calories and sugars. No one must spend hours at the gym. A 30 minute walk and jog - just something to get the blood pumping - will help. Our medical expenses will be cut and we can implement something effective. And over time, it feels good. More energy, more stress relief.
Real story I've told a few people...
About 12 years ago I was in basic. My bunkmate was this little dude who showed up with 6 pack abs. I asked him how he got em, and told me did about a 80 situps a day and just ate fish for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
A month later, his abs were gone and his stomach looked like mine. I made fun of him for it at the time, but honestly I shouldn't have, it wasn't his fault. In fact, it wasn't anyone's fault. Army food is purposely high calorie, so it makes sense his abs would go away.
Long story short, exercise matters, but diet matters even more.
Bill would tell a fat joke about Chris Christie every week for 5 years but apparently none of them were cheap or mean
I agree with Bill here, and while there is absolutely a need to take part in their own health, I think it also needs to be pointed out there are financial incentives from the pharmceutical and processed food industry to keep people unhealthy and addicted to unhealthy lifestyles. These industries have a strong grip on people and for every health-minded person trying to influence people to improve their health, there are probably 1000+ ads/marketing/products that obfuscate health information. You'd bet there is money to be made off of this, and these industries lobby politicians at multiple levels to keep their grips on people's lifestyle; even if 90% of Americans led a healthier lifestyle tomorrow, there isn't enough supply of whole foods to support that demand. Historically, this is the story of the birth of mass-produced low-quality (non-artisan) bread that utilized highly-processed ingredients like fortified flour to feed the masses. All this to say, there are only a certain amount of people in the U.S. that can actually afford to and meet the supply of a healthy lifestyle. The rest will eat processed food and this will not change unless there is medical attention towards people's diets to shift mindsets and increase demand for real whole foods in our agriculture and livestock that people want to eat instead of acres of corn, soybean, canola, etc.
Incentivising can go directly to citizens as well. If civilians were offered a 1000 dollars a year to take and pass the APFT, more people would go to the gym.
I agree. If you exercise regularly, eat healthy, get sunshine, rest, etc.....your life will be so much better.
They have lobbied our Congress to keep junk food in schools. Think about that.
@@jeffjeffries3469 other countries laugh at how unhealthy our food is
Andough is correct on all counts.
Bill, I am with you all the way, especially about the soda crutch thing. I have that problem personally. Training my palate to get accustomed to less sugar is difficult, but I am trying. And don't forget- sugar is in almost everything- especially High Fructose Corn Syrup. It is in many of the processed foods that never even needed it. But yes, we are avoidant and in denial as a society in general.
relax and enjoy a Horton's Cola. th-cam.com/video/pMXwFlp9IoI/w-d-xo.html
The problem has gotten worse because of four words: high fructose corn syrup. It's abundant and often the key ingredient in processed (i.e. cheap) foods. It's also been proven that HFCS increases your appetite more than natural sugar, influencing you to eat more foods with it.
Functioning alcoholics become hostile when their drinking is mentioned.
Yeah all people become defensive when you start to point out their character flaws. That's how humans work
@@1986subway Addiction is not a character flaw, it’s a treatable medical condition defined by loss of one’s ability to control their behaviour.
@@JohnnyAmerique Don't lecture me on what addiction is. I was addicted and living in the streets for 2 years. Despite what this soft society wants to tell you it is 100% because of a flaw in the addicts character. Refusal to acknowledge this means you will never recover. It is most certainly, probably, because of the trauma of their early life. So while it most certainly isn't their fault that they're an addict it is their problem.
Regardless, you failed to grasp the point I was making. any human when confronted about their behavior will first become defensive. that mechanism can only be overcome by first acknowledging it. You have to exert your will to stop the defensive reaction in yourself. Then listen to the logical basis on which you're being criticized. Then analyze the merits of the critique. This process is called maturity. Getting old is inevitable, unfortunately, becoming mature is completely optional. This applies to all your behaviors, how much you eat, how much you exercise, if you are habitually late for work, everything you do. Some parents have a great understanding of this. They are able to apply the appropriate proportions of support, opportunity, and discipline to a young person so that when they become 18 they are a well-balanced human who is able to deal with life's adversities in a balanced way. While other parents aren't even aware that they should be doing that. While I have no empirical evidence other than my own life. I would guess that the latter group of parents are the parents of 90% of people with addiction problems
@@1986subway You admit you have no evidence for your claims, also implicitly denying the mountain of scientific evidence showing that you’re wrong - specifically, that neurological changes occur in addictive disorders which make it unlikely for the patient to be able to change their behaviour without medical intervention. Unfortunately, due to this pervasive puritanical and moralising mindset, even most of the “treatments” (using that term very loosely) utilised are still punitive, coercive, unscientific and ineffective. For instance, there is a highly effective treatment for alcohol use disorder known as The Sinclair Method which has repeatedly been demonstrated to be 77-80% effective in clinical studies. Yet, this method is rarely used; many medical practitioners have never heard of it. What is utilised instead? In most cases, the laughably ineffective, cultish 1930’s religious hokum known as AA.
Now then, compulsive overeating is itself an addictive disorder, but this afflicts only a small minority of people who are overweight and obese. Most people can alter their behaviour vis-a-vis diet and exercise without medical intervention, they just choose not to.
@@JohnnyAmerique I'm a former crystal meth addict who is in direct contradiction to your studies that say behavior can't be changed because of chemical dependency. It was done through changing habits and removing damaging relationships. So to say I have no evidence is absolutely false. As far as AA I reached the same conclusion after two meetings that is a philosophy doomed for failure. to say you will always be an addict is completely counterproductive.
I still remember your speech.
I agree that we should all quit pretending that health care is strictly an issue between you and your doctor when it really starts as being between you and your dinner plate.
Totally agree with you Bill. I’d add that the advertising for junk food is very mentally draining on people and their will power. Good food availability and junk food advertising are both huge mountains for people to overcome… but they can be overcome. I’d say better diet advice would be nice too from the medical field.
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I don't have a problem with encouraging weight loss but what I problemmatic is shaming people for it and that is what james Gordon took issue with. It can actually have an adverse reaction for people trying to loose weight and make them more depressed and continue on a negative cycle instead of just being understanding and encouraging.
"We look like different species" - facts
as a current fat ass that is on the right track to losing weight finally, Bill is right.
being fat is so bad for our bodies I have gotten a hernia, constant nerve pain, pulled a muscle in my back that caused a horrible knee injury that im still dealing with numbness and all this was just in the last 2 and a half years!
I've had enough of being tired, not fitting into my clothes, and feeling nasty.
again, Bill Maher is right about the obesity problem in this country.
Thx. But if there is obesity in the family and NO ONE says anything?! What do you do?
Amazing how things sound so much more serious and important when there are a huge microphones in front of the speakers and they're wearing headphones.
“We look like a different species fifty years ago”
This is based on a number of factors one of the biggest being the food pyramid.
Another factor is that there are so many jobs and duties people used to sweat out to accomplish that we can now do at the push of a button.
I feel bad for Bill. Even though I don’t agree with everything he says, he’s always been a voice of reason. Even though he’s left wing, he’s always been close enough to center to have honest and open talks with people. But the way the left has been going, it’s almost like they’re excommunicating him.
I always feel uneasy after someone lays down a reasonable argument and the first reaction is "even though he is on the opposite politically, this one thing makes sense."
Like who cares. This whole idea of being segregated by the party affiliation is just blatantly ignorant. So many great ideas get neglected because you feel like the person across is too different.
@@zoznammic 100% dude. The left has completely radicalized in the last 10 years or so and it's getting worse every year.
I see intolerance across the political spectrum, I hope it gets better. We're a soft targets for bot attacks and disinformation. A pandemic and school shootings can't even bring us together.
It's not shaming. It is acknowledging reality
I once approached a friend about his dangerous drinking and lost him as a friend for years. That’s part of the issue, the fallout from saying the true and honest thing.
It's often not shaming, and if the person feels shame then that's further proof that something is wrong.
Bill Maher is last liberal late night comedian that doesn't make me feel like I'm right wing. I've been having a hard time calling myself a left leaning moderate lately. Just seeing how crazy the left has become. I've found myself relating more to the right. Like before 2020 I thought that Steven Crowder and Alex Jones were right wing nuts. But now I find myself agreeing more with what they say. Than the leftist late night hosts I used to love.
Crowder and Jones as role models lololol
Crowder is still a right wing nut who likes to cosplay as a tough guy. I used to watch some of his videos to see what he was about and he was pretty anti-fact back in the day. His video on the crusades was a travesty and full of lies. That dude is just pathetic and needs to work on his low self esteem.
Agreed
@@profoundclarity8497 AOC and Kamala Harris as role models lolololol
Wait... he didn't say they were role models. That's something that came out of your mind when you got triggered reading his post🤣🤣
I keep Bill at arms length, because hes one of the loopy people who wanted the economy to collapse just to make Trump look bad. Be careful with these types of people, because they may be talking sense right now, but tomorrow they might try to throw us all under the bus again.
Would be a real shame 4 Grandparents to out live their children and then have to raise their grands ;(
Society has encouraged people to abandon personal responsibility for at least 40 years. Should we be surprised?
I was very overweight and inactive. Not healthy. Family history of diabetes and plenty of things to be concerned about. This past February I came across David Goggins. Changed my life. Today is day 165 of hitting the gym at 4:30am, eating right, watching my calories and embracing a new mindset. Down 35 pounds, threw out 5 bags of clothes and just proud of what ive been able to do. Was and is it easy? Hell no. But it’s something you just have to WANT. There are mornings when I don’t want to head out to the gym. But I go as much as it may suck. We are in control of what we do.
Watch George Carlin’s “Life is Worth Losing”, he mentions the obese epidemic.
I'm 5'11 and 155 lbs. I'm called skinny all the time. I have the same body type as Connor McGregor and almost as muscular. Can't fight for shit though. :)
This just in : Cake was delicious in 1969
It's because "BMI" is a fraudulent metric. It has no capacity to account for variant body structures. My "healthy" results in me looking like Skeletor.
Connor fights at 155, and not really, only Alvarez. Last several fights have been at 170. Regardless of those facts, whether the fight is 155 or 170 he doesn't live life at those weights. Fighters cut between 15-30lbs before every fight. So no, you don't have the same body type as McGregor.
I am 5'11 and 220, too often I see the average person around look fatter than me.
Imagine a world where The Tribe isn't permitted to speak publicly.
"to get applause from people on his side of the scale" lmao, clever and incisive
Those that are fat are shaming themselves.
As I'm eating 2 baked potatoes with butter and sour cream, with a diet coke.
I did walk for 35 minutes earlier in the day. balance.
Dr Gundry is addressing this problem intelligently and effectively via my opinion and experience. He explains his reasoning clearly.
He is dishonest. His lectin theory is not science based. Dr. John Mcdougal is the one to follow
Bill missed a huge opportunity to say, "We're not can-do, we're Mountain Dew."
The worst part of this issue is how obese people are almost demanding we adopt different standards of what is considered attractive. So instead of controlling body weight they tell everyone else to accept obesity as beautiful or you’re a fat shaming asshole. “Don’t ask me to improve anything, you need to lower your standards so I don’t get my feelings hurt.”
At the end of the day we are comfort seeking creatures. Food, drugs, relationships, all provide varying degrees of that. Addiction is thinking you should be comfortable 100% of the time. Recovery is realizing that isn't sustainable/possible, and finding a way to reframe whats uncomfortable to you.
The only part I disagree with is when he states you can’t eat well unless your middle class. Eggs, bananas, and apples aren’t expensive. People need to get their portion size under control and you’d see a big difference. Fast food has convinced us that we need the burger, fries, and the soda when in fact a burger should be enough for anyone.
1:19 YES!!!! Any remotely skinny women is called "too skinny" "eat a cheeseburger". I'd like to hear Adam and Drew's thoughts on this #thicc (huge ass and thighs [fat]) trend. I miss 2002 skinny chicks.
My fat POS mom used to call me too skinny because i just was. Always pushed me to eat more. For a time, in my 20s, i stress ate a lot and gained weight. Then she quickly told me i was overweight. Misery loves company, but still loves to complain.
I’m a little thin for a guy. It’s usually people that are way over weight that call me too thin. My doctor tells me I’m a good weight. He must be wrong though.
The point, Adam, is that resignation is easier than discipline.
I saw the James retort and it wasn't "mean" it was funny. And he did say that he felt Bill hearts in the right place.
There is a journalist, I forgot her name, who stated that being fit is right wing extremism. 😳.
when the war comes to your door, you'll wish you were fit to run
I believe it was Cynthia Miller-Idriss, she was associating the focus on fitness to right wing extremism. She has an op-ed on MSNBC, from 3/22/22.
@@CRHK88 you're right.
@@CRHK88 More evidence that the left in the US (such as it is) has completely lost their minds. And I say that as someone who is well to the left of the Democratic Party on most issues. They are basically throwing their electoral chances with their ridiculous obsession with boutique identity politics issues and the “woke” oppression olympics.
There are ways to eat healthy as a poor person. Carrots and broccoli are healthy no matter what and they’re as cheap as anything. Eat peanut butter. Eat eggs. These are healthy CHEAP foods. Chicken is cheap and healthy also. Just prepare it right. Other than that Bill is 100% right.
I never understood that argument. For some reason, people seem to think that you need to only eat expensive super foods to be healthy. No, you don´t need avocados, kale, salmon or anything like that. Chicken breast, rice, potatoes or couscous, coupled with some apples, oranges or bananas for snacks are all pretty cheap. Drinking tap water will cost you almost nothing. Even making yourself a sandwich with some meat and green vegetables in it is not only healthier, but also much cheaper than buying a burger for lunch. I realize that some of these aren´t really the healthiest possible choices, but if you are obese, you will get massive benefits even from those foods.
Yep. I picked up 36 eggs for $1.97 yesterday. Don’t tell me you can’t afford to healthy.
@@jirkazalabak1514 It’s because people make excuses that you have to shop at Whole Foods to be healthy and it’s just not true. Part of it is the trendy food industry lying to people but it’s also people making excuses. They sell apples at Stop N Shop
Thank you Bill Maher for calling out people's own responsibility to their health.
I did take the opportunity Covid presented and got into way better shape...though I was already in decent shape to begin with.
Yep 100 percent right
Blame shifty affordable food, soda and Boomer "finish your plate" mentality.
Exactly. I dragged my best friend out of his home and MADE him go to the gym with me. Kicking and screaming. He lost 100 lbs. I tolerated his complaining because I knew if I did it then he'd be around past 30 years old. If I didn't give a fk about him then I would've said, "Hey man! Your perfect just the way you are! Let me help you write that will since you'll be kicking the bucket in about two years." Smh.
Good stuff Bill!
Remove Jack n Box, McDonald's, Burger King, KFC, and 7-11 from ACCEPTING EBT..
100% Bill. “We are not asked to participate in our own health.”
This is why you’re one of my favorites; I like the way you think 🤔 and you’re from Jersey!!! Woop woop!
"Friends don't let friends overeat and become obese."