Nice expose of this unit. Only one I can find that really shows it's strengths and weaknesses clearly. Lovely juicy sound it imparts! Though sometimes a little too much loss of transients for the master, but I'd hate to get the SS version and loose the tube magic. So wish I could watch you play with both side by side! I hope this doesn't mean I need an oven lol! So out of my price range. But I must say I like your particular style in how you show us what this gear can do. An old video you did on the RND MBP helped my decision to get that last year and I love it. Thanks!
@@WillBorza Since you have both the MBP and the MA tube version would you think the 2 together could make a nice 2 bus for acoustic music? They seem to complement each other well for my taste but hard to say without trying them... Have you played with the 2 together? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
They would definitely complement each other. Tube warmth from MA + Transformer Sat from the MBP is a match made in heaven! The MA does have a lot of sound to it - just passing audio through changes the character significantly, so you gotta be really intentional when you reach for it.
@@WillBorza Exactly my feeling and concern. Thanks so much for replying. I really want a box to complement my MBP in a constantly active 2 bus chain that would be part of my sound. Though I absolutely love the sound of the MA I am concerned it may be not be able to be clean enough to stand up to the task of constantly being on my 2 bus. On the other hand I have never heard an eq that comes close to the sound in my head as this does. Any suggestions of if it could work or of other eqs to consider? Thanks again for the great content.
What is the ideal used price of this one. I have one brand new. Planning to sell it 😁 I don't use it much . But planning to keep it as well coz I might like it
Why bypass if the overall level is going to drop by 60%? ..... not sure what the point is. Thank you very much for the demo of the unit (when not bypassed!!). Cheers.
@@WillBorza i have a habit of completely ignoring those A/B comparisons where the level of one is way softer. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this video, you've showcased the unit in great detail and I'm a fan. Probably going to order one!
Hi! Your Michelangelo is beautiful, full, rich sounding.Your choice of gear is cool! After viewing your video I'll be buy Dangerous Music Convert-AD+.Please, tell me, how you connect Convert-AD+ to your computer in this video for final recording after Michelangelo: SPDIF or ADAT, or USB?Thank you! Now your sound is my choice too!
That’s great! You’re going to love it! The AD+ can be connected via USB, AES, spdif, or toslink, but it’s only half the equation. Do you already have a D to A? In my studio, I have a Lynx Hilo connected to my computer via USB, then the Convert-2 and Convert AD+ are both connected to the Hilo via AES.
How do you find the low end for hip-hop/trap mastering , also would you use it in the beginings of a mastering chain for shaping (before clean and precise eq ) or in the end for final adjustments ? Thanks , its amazing :)
Low end is juicy, thick, round, big - but if you need more tightness/definition, maybe use a different eq (tubes have a tendency to round over transients while solid state can reinforce transients). Given the headroom of this thing and that the magic really lives in the “aggression” knob, I like to use this near the beginning of a mastering chain.
@@WillBorza Yes , thats what i thought , thanks for the reply :) In Hendy Amps site , there is also a solid state version of the Michelangelo .. have you seen that ?
on the one hand I like what it can do, but in 99% cases when bypassing the unit I prefer the raw version, it seems to cloud the sound which forces you to add highs which makes me go "aahh", but when bypassed it's becoming even more clear. For mastering I could live with even less range, 1/3 of 1/3
I agree, unfortunately the nature of this box makes accurate gain comp difficult. For sure this is not the box to reach for if accuracy is more important than vibe.
@@WillBorza for sure. At 1st sight it seems a quite interesting adding color gear. Maybe recording some interesting 'custom settings', gain compensating the tracks in the daw and launching them could be nice... just a thought. Thanks for your answer.
I ended up selling this eq. I had this and the Massive Passive. For a while I would dial in “comparable” settings on both and then A/B, but the Massive Passive kept winning over and over, just marginally.
@@WillBorza that's the better way to do choices but...it is pricy. In my case I can't handle these gear trials. But I rely on old vintage gears I can buy, recap, etc. Recently I'm investigating inductor based ones . They're quite interesting for individual tracks.
The agression and the low end.. And the mid and hights.... and the air absolutely got me
So good right??
@@WillBorza you made order it haha! Do you have any recommendations on eq that would sit nicely next to it with a bit more control and flexibility?
I just bought one a couple weeks ago. Amazing unit. 👏
Yes!!! Love it!
YESSS finally some good DnB in the examples!! :)
Love it. Thinking about picking up a solid state version (as I already have plenty of tube gear in the chain).
If budget allows, go for the oven!
Nice expose of this unit. Only one I can find that really shows it's strengths and weaknesses clearly. Lovely juicy sound it imparts! Though sometimes a little too much loss of transients for the master, but I'd hate to get the SS version and loose the tube magic. So wish I could watch you play with both side by side! I hope this doesn't mean I need an oven lol! So out of my price range. But I must say I like your particular style in how you show us what this gear can do. An old video you did on the RND MBP helped my decision to get that last year and I love it. Thanks!
Hey man thanks for watching!
@@WillBorza Since you have both the MBP and the MA tube version would you think the 2 together could make a nice 2 bus for acoustic music? They seem to complement each other well for my taste but hard to say without trying them... Have you played with the 2 together? Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
They would definitely complement each other. Tube warmth from MA + Transformer Sat from the MBP is a match made in heaven!
The MA does have a lot of sound to it - just passing audio through changes the character significantly, so you gotta be really intentional when you reach for it.
@@WillBorza Exactly my feeling and concern. Thanks so much for replying. I really want a box to complement my MBP in a constantly active 2 bus chain that would be part of my sound. Though I absolutely love the sound of the MA I am concerned it may be not be able to be clean enough to stand up to the task of constantly being on my 2 bus. On the other hand I have never heard an eq that comes close to the sound in my head as this does. Any suggestions of if it could work or of other eqs to consider? Thanks again for the great content.
9/10 times, the massive passive can do what I wanted the MA to do, but cleaner and better
Very nice! Is this a tube or a MOSFET?
What is the ideal used price of this one. I have one brand new. Planning to sell it 😁 I don't use it much . But planning to keep it as well coz I might like it
Where are those tube traps from?
They're Ancient and from here: www.acousticsciences.com/products/tube-trap
me getting one … great video love the music
Why bypass if the overall level is going to drop by 60%? ..... not sure what the point is. Thank you very much for the demo of the unit (when not bypassed!!). Cheers.
Haha I get what you mean. Just sort of a reminder of “this is where we started”
@@WillBorza i have a habit of completely ignoring those A/B comparisons where the level of one is way softer. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this video, you've showcased the unit in great detail and I'm a fan. Probably going to order one!
Wow amazing !
This sounds incredible!
Right?!?
Hi! Your Michelangelo is beautiful, full, rich sounding.Your choice of gear is cool! After viewing your video I'll be buy Dangerous Music Convert-AD+.Please, tell me, how you connect Convert-AD+ to your computer in this video for final recording after Michelangelo: SPDIF or ADAT, or USB?Thank you! Now your sound is my choice too!
That’s great! You’re going to love it!
The AD+ can be connected via USB, AES, spdif, or toslink, but it’s only half the equation. Do you already have a D to A?
In my studio, I have a Lynx Hilo connected to my computer via USB, then the Convert-2 and Convert AD+ are both connected to the Hilo via AES.
How do you find the low end for hip-hop/trap mastering , also would you use it in the beginings of a mastering chain for shaping (before clean and precise eq ) or in the end for final adjustments ? Thanks , its amazing :)
Low end is juicy, thick, round, big - but if you need more tightness/definition, maybe use a different eq (tubes have a tendency to round over transients while solid state can reinforce transients). Given the headroom of this thing and that the magic really lives in the “aggression” knob, I like to use this near the beginning of a mastering chain.
@@WillBorza Yes , thats what i thought , thanks for the reply :) In Hendy Amps site , there is also a solid state version of the Michelangelo .. have you seen that ?
Yep! And The Oven is really tempting!
@@WillBorza Oven is too expensive .. I guess solid state MA will sound a bit tighter and cleaner .
on the one hand I like what it can do, but in 99% cases when bypassing the unit I prefer the raw version, it seems to cloud the sound which forces you to add highs which makes me go "aahh", but when bypassed it's becoming even more clear. For mastering I could live with even less range, 1/3 of 1/3
How much is it??
The model I have is $2700, and to get it with stepped controls is $3900 - hendyamps.com/michelangelo
@@WillBorza
The stepped version is better for recall. But $2700 isn’t bad. I’ve been looking at the Bettermaker myself.
Recall is pretty easy and even without the stepped versions. That being said, I usually reach for this EQ when I know there won't be recalls.
How about doing demos with gain compensation? It's impossible to do a fair comparison, I think.
I agree, unfortunately the nature of this box makes accurate gain comp difficult. For sure this is not the box to reach for if accuracy is more important than vibe.
@@WillBorza for sure. At 1st sight it seems a quite interesting adding color gear. Maybe recording some interesting 'custom settings', gain compensating the tracks in the daw and launching them could be nice... just a thought. Thanks for your answer.
I ended up selling this eq. I had this and the Massive Passive. For a while I would dial in “comparable” settings on both and then A/B, but the Massive Passive kept winning over and over, just marginally.
@@WillBorza that's the better way to do choices but...it is pricy. In my case I can't handle these gear trials. But I rely on old vintage gears I can buy, recap, etc. Recently I'm investigating inductor based ones . They're quite interesting for individual tracks.
Can you get 1/3 range and stepped controls?
Yep!
Is that full range or 1/3?
This one is a 1/3 range
If had the cash I would definitely get one
Nice
what a box