Yes, it technically works, but honestly, you should try it yourself and see how broken everything gets. Modern web devs do some of the most insane things, like a tiny landing page needing a giant React JS bundle, random menus using hacky JS instead of modern CSS, those "continue reading" buttons on news sites, addictive infinite scroll, and more awful things. If not for all that silliness, I'd bet the entire web could get by without any JS at all, but sadly, we live in a world where software efficiency is halved every 18 months, so of course the web browser and the websites it runs must suck out all life out of your PC!
WebDev here, websites are mostly possible without JS unless you want some crazy designs like Apple's product pages. Web apps however, are basically impossible since people don't expect every single interaction to cause a full page reload. Ironically, something like TH-cam could mostly work without JS, but a web app that's more like an actual app (e.g. you can edit tables) is not gonna be very usable without JS
In fairness with how relatively powerful computers have become, it simply doesn't make sense to make most websites light on performance. Even basic computers can usually play 3D games and complete renderings in a reasonable amount of time, so running a page with a ton of js usually isn't gonna be bad on most of these machines.
Hacky js vs modern css lmao, what does that even mean could've just said you don't know what you are talking about. if you turn off JavaScript you ruin the ability for some websites to load in using only JavaScript which helps with speed vs all html. it's just the websites ability to see that you aren't using JavaScript anymore then the website sends back actual files instead of js loaded html
Pro Tip, if you use an ad blocker, you can bypass the think that disables the site until you disable your ad blocker, by getting rid of JavaScript, and if a news site has a pay wall, you can bypass that by disabling JavaScript too
You don't need to disable javascript to do that. Just delete the element that covers the page (ublock origin has an easy way to do that). Disabling javascript will also most likely not get rid of blur effects, which means you still have to edit the css.
@@Nina-cd2eh Actually sometimes neither of these things will work with websites, as the actual site will just be what you can see (nothing to scroll too) until you either pay for there subscription or verify yourself in some way. This can't be fixed because even if you block JavaScript or remove certain elements, there is nothing there in the first place. Sometimes this can be bypassed by looking in the code for variabilities such as links or guessing a path that might lead to the full unfiltered site, but this can be unreliable.
@@mandude7358 True, but most sites don't do that, and one reason is SEO. Sites want their articles indexed by google, but not accessible to users, which benefits us. Edit: And I just remembered "12ft io" is a thing which seems to rely on crawler caches. I haven't really used it though i don't know how well it works.
Watching this video just made me realize that disabling JS encourages healthier surfing behavior by disabling the option to scroll through any feeds by default.
My site deliberately has no (very little) JS intentionally so people without JS (or just have bad computers) can still use my site perfectly fine. I pride myself in making it as static as possible.
Using Brave, i have scripts off by default and then just turn back on on the sites i allow by just two click, so its not even a bother. And its a great protection against popup sites or such.
Same. Brave is great. On my phone, I have all cookies and scripts disabled by default. This means if I'm tired and I accidentally click a sketchy link from an email, I have much more protection. Brave remembers my site settings, so it's a one time choice to enable them on sites I trust that need it.
JavaScript fingerprinting makes sure sites can track you no matter what you do and 40% of pages use it. Ad companies have a full index of what things you do online at 3am
Then people blame it on feds listening to their phones for some reason Like, bruh, even if the feds did, they are not giving it away to adsense databases
@Sniper Sadly no. You mistakenly assumed marketing and sales had a conscious. Now, hopefully, you just get offers for blue, pink and white socks and some intimate toys as opposed to "legal" wives from Tajikistan.
Capitalism is so god damn confusing. How the HELL does targeted advertising generate more money? HOW!? People are going to press "skip" JUST as much! Must just be a perception thing, like stocks, and company value.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 because each ad shown costs money, so knowing WHO to show it to saves them money by knowing who NOT to show it to When you have a company moving billions, the money it costs is minimal but the cost of pushing so many ads does add up
Html is used to present words and have links and urls(inclduing images), css allows you to organize and customize how the website should look. So it's easy to make a functional simple website will just html and css
You really stretch the definition of working. Considering that most things people do on the internet are on some sort of social Media Site. And also most sides DO require it. I can tell you as someone who used a blocker addon for a while. Even if you just block external Java Script that blocks like 80% of websites.
entertaining yes but only average YTshorts quality and no sources for his claims, the opposite is the case when trying it yourself - you'll find many sites to be quite broken without JS
Technically, a webpage that doesn't work without JavaScript is broken. TH-cam is broken on purpose. It does not use well-formed HTML that conforms to W3C specifications. They used that to force Microsoft to abandon their web rendering engine and use Google's fork of Apple's fork of KDE's rendering engine instead. JavaScript was developed at Netscape in 1995 because web browsers didn't have any backdoors yet. They also invented cookies.
To be _slightly_ fair stuff like Mouse Simulator 2D and all the other crap I've made use javascript more for computational/logic stuff as apposed to UI. And none of it implements tracking or subconscious decision causing designs as, why would I do that to myself? It just plots pixels on a screen.
I use No-Script and can confirm that. Especially many well crafted sites have a fallbacksystem so they can function without it. On the rest it often is enough to enable 1 or 2 scripts for the core functionality one is interested in. Why I do that? Safety. And as a side effect I can use the internet without being overwhelmed with ads popping up right in my face.
At work, there was once a tablet showing critical updates to inform forklift drivers of where to go that suddenly stopped updating and showing new missions. The office guys had a look, couldnt figure it out, management had a look, couldnt figure it out, IT had a look, could not figure out why this tablet wasn’t updating I take the tablet, remember that the admin password to change literally any setting is 123456 and that every forklift driver knows this as its needed to even turn the tablet on, go into settings, and enable javascript again The page showing the missions had a javascript that literally just reloads the page every minute, and that got disabled
@@niharikamenon-iz8xujavascript not needed on many websites. disabling javascript also completely stops malicious advertisements from running on your phone.
@@niharikamenon-iz8xu nobody uses browsers for youtube on phone. Shopping apps control their ads to not be malicious. I specifically said disabling javascript on "phone browsers", not apps
For every step forward we take in development, it seems like we take two backwards without respect for optimization and foresight. I love everything from the “retro” game dev to solutions that attempt to vim like browsers and potentially things that could solve this. Plus, honestly websites are so bloated with ads and constantly changing UI it makes the days of yore in regards to the internet look like paradise.
yes it will work if the website is not made with framework like react or angular.. etc. Facebook for exp won't work because it's made with react (the html is generated by the js itself so you can't disable it and keep using website).
I use an extension that let's me whitelist sites that I use in a regular basis that don't work without Javascript, so I don't get any annoying paywalls/ads/pop-ups from visiting a new website, specially articles or papers.
I read a lotta stuff online. My first smartphone was a cheap 2g phone that could still load texts just fine when I disable JavaScript. Nowadays, I use a much better and modern phone but still turn off JavaScript to remove ads from some annoying websites I read off of
**1 in 500 BROWSERS disable JavaScript. Big difference, because 1 person might be a pen-tester, developer, someone troubleshooting something that are all just testing the site without JavaScript, in one specific browser. Also, you really shouldn’t go by some “statistic”, without knowing the parameters of that statistic. If they say “1 in 500 PEOPLE”, it’s completely invalid without them mentioning how they know it’s an actual individual.
React, Vue, Angular, basically everything works with javascript, you will hardly be able to use any website the same way you use it with js enabled. However, for developers, I would find it ideal to show a message to the user who has javascript disabled, just use the noscript tag in the html
Bruh there is really someone who think you can't browse Internet without js?? I use mainly for simple Web browsing W3M (text-based Web browser for Linux terminal) and it works perfectly
I try my best to make minimal usage of JS on most of my small web projects. If necessary, I might also make a less feature-enhanced version of the site that uses SSR instead. That’s also quite useful for SEO. The “islands” architecture pattern might also help with this sort of issue, but I’m unaware as to how well it works given that I haven’t used it before. I’d love to try it sometime though.
Unfortunately there are no browsers left that have such easy accessible function. They removed it because "majority of sites will stop working if it is disabled" (c) release notes
There are other programming languages besides javascript 😂 plus HTML5 is a thing. So, of course, it'll work. Back in the day, there were tons of websites built with just html. As a matter of fact, some websites today only use html and css.
There are whole genres of video games that are played in browser, with JavaScript And i am a fan of them (Incremental games) I'm sure blockn8g JavaScript will work great for me
Disabling javascript will def break some sites, the newer one the worse, as if it's a older one, it might be built mostly with php, from my experience with web dev, modern sites are bloated as fuck, using heavy js frameworks where they are not needed at all, i ain't even saying one should use vanilla html and css for websites, as there are def advantages to using a framework, but damn for a landing page it's better to use a static site generator like astro js, as that compiles to mostly html and css (unless js is actually needed somewhere), a lot of stuff can be done with html and css only, and a lot of people underestimate those possibilities, resulting in poor js recreations of existing features, more bloat, and poor performance Also i don't want to put all the blame on the developers themselves, as often the ones who commission a website require a use of a specific frameworks and libraries, where they are absolutely not needed, and also for some websites js is actually needed and used in a good fashion, because html can't really handle logic
I kind of often use JavaScript to simplify tasks in web design. So most of my sites won't work. A simple text site might work, but if the site works more like a program in the browser, it won't.
I mean... It kinda depends on what you consider as "work", but to be fair, I think having a couple of thinks broken is worth it if it means you won't see any annoying ads..
there are ways to make a website built using JS to still work even with JS disabled. some uses SSR the solution i've seen the most that's still being used is using PHP to generate static HTML (this could be done using JS too in SSR) the trick is to make JS generate most of the code as HTML and CSS without JS to the extent where users will be able to use your site completely with JS disabled. if there's something wrong here you can tell me.
Well I mean I think some browsers allow you block cookies. What you really have to watch out for the pixels which essentially use image tags to run back into code and track you that way...
You can do smt about cookie forms. I have an addon "I don't care about cookies" it just accepts them all. It is not perfect, some sites do bug but it is like 1 in 100.
If you don’t know how to handle cookie windows, then you shouldn’t be disabled JavaScript in the first place, also you can watch videos pretty simply if you use alternate front ends or dlp
The best way to handle cookie windows is to never interact with them, then you're not giving consent to get sprayed with cookies, not even "functional" ones. You can also delete most cookie banners & windows with inspect element. Of course for websites you spend more time on and reload regularly you can choose "Reject all" or if that's not available, "More options...". The really evil ones make you individually disable different third party ad networks manually one by one in a list of hundreds. I rarely bother with those websites. And there's the option of never saving cookies to begin with, which breaks some websites.
In some situation you don't need JavaScript at all but in some you literally require JavaScript to build your app. If you are building a sort of blog then, reducing or even removing JavaScript might be a good thing (for UX), but in application that is often regularly updated with dynamic content... I don't think Jeffrey Way is true. We are living in a world of constant change, news are often toss around, advertising on the web are everywhere, JavaScript is a good thing not a bad thing actually.
Your website can work without javascript it's just you are gonna have to wait for a reload for every interaction like liking comment or anything s such
For forms, it depends on how the form was implemented. Some just use the HTML tag, which doesn't need any JavaScript to function, but will reload the page or redirect you to another one upon submission of the form.
@@neojf1460 wow you’re life sounds incredibly boring, also js doesn’t secure privacy, a lot of data is still transferred, the server will still get your ip, user agent, and referrer
@@neojf1460 you can’t use like 90% of the internet I can’t see how that’s cool, and if what you were saying is true I highly doubt you’d be on this website due to its lack of functionality, why be skeptical of privacy if you don’t have anything to hide
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Shorts are fun to learn
pages taking ages to load just because of js
oops I wasn't ment to reply to another comment lmao, whatever here you go
Ok
In this weather, you should really learn pants.
This is false information though
Yes, it technically works, but honestly, you should try it yourself and see how broken everything gets. Modern web devs do some of the most insane things, like a tiny landing page needing a giant React JS bundle, random menus using hacky JS instead of modern CSS, those "continue reading" buttons on news sites, addictive infinite scroll, and more awful things.
If not for all that silliness, I'd bet the entire web could get by without any JS at all, but sadly, we live in a world where software efficiency is halved every 18 months, so of course the web browser and the websites it runs must suck out all life out of your PC!
It’s honestly hilarious
WebDev here, websites are mostly possible without JS unless you want some crazy designs like Apple's product pages. Web apps however, are basically impossible since people don't expect every single interaction to cause a full page reload. Ironically, something like TH-cam could mostly work without JS, but a web app that's more like an actual app (e.g. you can edit tables) is not gonna be very usable without JS
Damn ok
In fairness with how relatively powerful computers have become, it simply doesn't make sense to make most websites light on performance. Even basic computers can usually play 3D games and complete renderings in a reasonable amount of time, so running a page with a ton of js usually isn't gonna be bad on most of these machines.
Hacky js vs modern css lmao, what does that even mean
could've just said you don't know what you are talking about.
if you turn off JavaScript you ruin the ability for some websites to load in using only JavaScript which helps with speed vs all html. it's just the websites ability to see that you aren't using JavaScript anymore then the website sends back actual files instead of js loaded html
Pro Tip, if you use an ad blocker, you can bypass the think that disables the site until you disable your ad blocker, by getting rid of JavaScript, and if a news site has a pay wall, you can bypass that by disabling JavaScript too
teach me more master
You don't need to disable javascript to do that. Just delete the element that covers the page (ublock origin has an easy way to do that).
Disabling javascript will also most likely not get rid of blur effects, which means you still have to edit the css.
@@Nina-cd2eh Actually sometimes neither of these things will work with websites, as the actual site will just be what you can see (nothing to scroll too) until you either pay for there subscription or verify yourself in some way. This can't be fixed because even if you block JavaScript or remove certain elements, there is nothing there in the first place. Sometimes this can be bypassed by looking in the code for variabilities such as links or guessing a path that might lead to the full unfiltered site, but this can be unreliable.
@@mandude7358 True, but most sites don't do that, and one reason is SEO. Sites want their articles indexed by google, but not accessible to users, which benefits us.
Edit: And I just remembered "12ft io" is a thing which seems to rely on crawler caches. I haven't really used it though i don't know how well it works.
Can you specify what website you are talking about that has a paywall which can be broken by disabling javascript?
Take that "censored" Donald Archer
I was looking for this.
I was gonna say lmao
There was a time where you’d be considered a shit developer if your website didn’t work without JavaScript. Those days flew by fast.
We went from server rendered PHP to client side rendering in JS to server rendered JS with client side hydration to static generator.
No joke.
@@charlesm.2604 yep
Watching this video just made me realize that disabling JS encourages healthier surfing behavior by disabling the option to scroll through any feeds by default.
Please ...do it...then enable JS after an hour...come back and tell us your personal experience! :)
My site deliberately has no (very little) JS intentionally so people without JS (or just have bad computers) can still use my site perfectly fine. I pride myself in making it as static as possible.
My school had Java script disabled, it would make searching for stuff miserable
Using Brave, i have scripts off by default and then just turn back on on the sites i allow by just two click, so its not even a bother. And its a great protection against popup sites or such.
Same. Brave is great. On my phone, I have all cookies and scripts disabled by default. This means if I'm tired and I accidentally click a sketchy link from an email, I have much more protection. Brave remembers my site settings, so it's a one time choice to enable them on sites I trust that need it.
uBlock just deletes all those popups for you
JavaScript fingerprinting makes sure sites can track you no matter what you do and 40% of pages use it. Ad companies have a full index of what things you do online at 3am
Then people blame it on feds listening to their phones for some reason
Like, bruh, even if the feds did, they are not giving it away to adsense databases
@Sniper Sadly no. You mistakenly assumed marketing and sales had a conscious. Now, hopefully, you just get offers for blue, pink and white socks and some intimate toys as opposed to "legal" wives from Tajikistan.
Capitalism is so god damn confusing. How the HELL does targeted advertising generate more money? HOW!? People are going to press "skip" JUST as much!
Must just be a perception thing, like stocks, and company value.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 because each ad shown costs money, so knowing WHO to show it to saves them money by knowing who NOT to show it to
When you have a company moving billions, the money it costs is minimal but the cost of pushing so many ads does add up
@@EbonySaintsi think you missed the joke
1-500 disabled javascript and doesnt know to turn it back on
Html is used to present words and have links and urls(inclduing images), css allows you to organize and customize how the website should look. So it's easy to make a functional simple website will just html and css
+ new technique as C# MVC or WebAssembly change the Javascript game
@@MobileGamingMK "C# MVC" is called the ASP DotNet Framework and has been around for over 20 years.
What’s jacks septic eye doing down there?
I saw that too!
of course you'd see it based off your name
You really stretch the definition of working. Considering that most things people do on the internet are on some sort of social Media Site.
And also most sides DO require it. I can tell you as someone who used a blocker addon for a while. Even if you just block external Java Script that blocks like 80% of websites.
This is what shorts should be, short and informative, would love to see more of these
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These are the shorts i want! Quality, informative, fits the genre perfect!
Not informative at all
If anything is the opposite.
entertaining yes but only average YTshorts quality and no sources for his claims, the opposite is the case when trying it yourself - you'll find many sites to be quite broken without JS
Technically, a webpage that doesn't work without JavaScript is broken.
TH-cam is broken on purpose. It does not use well-formed HTML that conforms to W3C specifications. They used that to force Microsoft to abandon their web rendering engine and use Google's fork of Apple's fork of KDE's rendering engine instead.
JavaScript was developed at Netscape in 1995 because web browsers didn't have any backdoors yet. They also invented cookies.
To be _slightly_ fair stuff like Mouse Simulator 2D and all the other crap I've made use javascript more for computational/logic stuff as apposed to UI.
And none of it implements tracking or subconscious decision causing designs as, why would I do that to myself? It just plots pixels on a screen.
I wish people stopped doing unnecessary flashy animations for simple pages, which requires a bunch of javascript
I use No-Script and can confirm that. Especially many well crafted sites have a fallbacksystem so they can function without it. On the rest it often is enough to enable 1 or 2 scripts for the core functionality one is interested in. Why I do that? Safety. And as a side effect I can use the internet without being overwhelmed with ads popping up right in my face.
safety from what exactly?
Also isn't adblocker more convenient?
@@kiiturii Many attack strategies utilize java scripts. You avoid many of these attacks just by selectively activating only certain scripts.
@@kiiturii Adblockers use blocklists while script blockers like NoScript use whitelists.
My man never used NoScript
At work, there was once a tablet showing critical updates to inform forklift drivers of where to go that suddenly stopped updating and showing new missions. The office guys had a look, couldnt figure it out, management had a look, couldnt figure it out, IT had a look, could not figure out why this tablet wasn’t updating
I take the tablet, remember that the admin password to change literally any setting is 123456 and that every forklift driver knows this as its needed to even turn the tablet on, go into settings, and enable javascript again
The page showing the missions had a javascript that literally just reloads the page every minute, and that got disabled
You blurred people's nicknames so "well" that you can read them without any problems 😂
I think the blurr is just to focus on the important visual information
@@mtk77621 no it's probably because you don't want a random witch hunt or something like that
@@UH-60_BlackhawkNo because otherwise the names would have actually been blurred properly, not just out of focus
@@mtk77621 But they didn't blur "5 days ago" next to his name or the likes under his comment.
They only blurred his name in his comment.
@@UH-60_Blackhawk that is most likely the reason but why anyone would do that anyways is beyond me
I don't even write my websites with JavaScript unless it's got to be extra fancy
React is like 40% of the internet if they don’t have ssr you ain’t seeing shit
4% you added an extra zero
@@undefinedchannel9916 36% of it is php
disabling JavaScript on phone browsers is a great way to save battery life.
Just use a good enough phone lol, how do you have sooo little batter capacity that you need to disable javascript???
@@niharikamenon-iz8xujavascript not needed on many websites. disabling javascript also completely stops malicious advertisements from running on your phone.
@@roberttran1114 TH-cam?
Any Shopping apps?
Googles drop down thing?
What else do you use browsers for?
@@niharikamenon-iz8xu nobody uses browsers for youtube on phone. Shopping apps control their ads to not be malicious. I specifically said disabling javascript on "phone browsers", not apps
I love these shorts. Just subscribed! Good job man!
Awesome, thank you!
Same:D
For every step forward we take in development, it seems like we take two backwards without respect for optimization and foresight. I love everything from the “retro” game dev to solutions that attempt to vim like browsers and potentially things that could solve this. Plus, honestly websites are so bloated with ads and constantly changing UI it makes the days of yore in regards to the internet look like paradise.
I just use TOR if I truelly need to do something that requires confidentiality or don't want to be tracked
I used disabled JS for a year and it's a-okay problems are just kinda small sites to see that I love but it is what it is
And many of the sites that don't have simple workarounds, like just playing TH-cam videos in mpv.
Hopefully the mass layoffs in tech reduces the shitbrains putting ungodly amount of JavaScript in sites that don’t need it.
True privacy begins with tor
People in 2040 wondering about using internet without internet 💀
yes it will work if the website is not made with framework like react or angular.. etc.
Facebook for exp won't work because it's made with react (the html is generated by the js itself so you can't disable it and keep using website).
It might be a little exaggerated, but it will definitely break a lot of stuff if you disable JS altogether.
I use an extension that let's me whitelist sites that I use in a regular basis that don't work without Javascript, so I don't get any annoying paywalls/ads/pop-ups from visiting a new website, specially articles or papers.
Pray telling what extension you’re using? Is it for Firefox or Chrome for that matter as well?
Gonna be living like it's the 90s on the internet. Also if a site uses react this won't work at all.
I'll need to verify, but I'm pretty sure with HTML5 media encoding you can get around JS requirements.
I do this all the time on my older device. It saves battery and gives me distraction free reading. :)
I read a lotta stuff online. My first smartphone was a cheap 2g phone that could still load texts just fine when I disable JavaScript.
Nowadays, I use a much better and modern phone but still turn off JavaScript to remove ads from some annoying websites I read off of
I've used disable js and I've never had a problem lol
**1 in 500 BROWSERS disable JavaScript.
Big difference, because 1 person might be a pen-tester, developer, someone troubleshooting something that are all just testing the site without JavaScript, in one specific browser.
Also, you really shouldn’t go by some “statistic”, without knowing the parameters of that statistic. If they say “1 in 500 PEOPLE”, it’s completely invalid without them mentioning how they know it’s an actual individual.
React, Vue, Angular, basically everything works with javascript, you will hardly be able to use any website the same way you use it with js enabled.
However, for developers, I would find it ideal to show a message to the user who has javascript disabled, just use the noscript tag in the html
Thanks for blurring Donald Archer's name
Bruh there is really someone who think you can't browse Internet without js?? I use mainly for simple Web browsing W3M (text-based Web browser for Linux terminal) and it works perfectly
you can use invidious or piped for watching youtube
piped is really slow for me for some reason. NewPipe works great though.
I use NoScript, but allow JavaScript for websites I trust. That way I don't have to fear malware links at all.
You can also block all cookies from browser settings…
And break all the websites?...nahh
Some functions of the websites are programmed in Javascript, so disabling it will disable those functions and their dependent functions
I try my best to make minimal usage of JS on most of my small web projects.
If necessary, I might also make a less feature-enhanced version of the site that uses SSR instead. That’s also quite useful for SEO.
The “islands” architecture pattern might also help with this sort of issue, but I’m unaware as to how well it works given that I haven’t used it before. I’d love to try it sometime though.
Unfortunately there are no browsers left that have such easy accessible function. They removed it because "majority of sites will stop working if it is disabled" (c) release notes
Doesn't UBlock Origin give you that option?
There are other programming languages besides javascript 😂 plus HTML5 is a thing. So, of course, it'll work. Back in the day, there were tons of websites built with just html. As a matter of fact, some websites today only use html and css.
Yeah but none of the popular websites prolly are... Other than maybe wikipedia and Google
There are whole genres of video games that are played in browser, with JavaScript
And i am a fan of them
(Incremental games)
I'm sure blockn8g JavaScript will work great for me
Web dev here - you can do a lot about cookie files. Even remove then in runtime instead of when you close your browser.
Cookies can be set by the server too though, you don't need JS
Most websites created these days heavily depend on Javascript. Even my sites are mostly in react or vue
Most sites use html
@@trash_frog and html embeds javascript….
I loved the NumNumNum cookies part
Some webs were never meant to be used without JS. That said, those webs are a minority. If you are a dev, add scriptless fallbacks.
Disabling javascript will def break some sites, the newer one the worse, as if it's a older one, it might be built mostly with php, from my experience with web dev, modern sites are bloated as fuck, using heavy js frameworks where they are not needed at all, i ain't even saying one should use vanilla html and css for websites, as there are def advantages to using a framework, but damn for a landing page it's better to use a static site generator like astro js, as that compiles to mostly html and css (unless js is actually needed somewhere), a lot of stuff can be done with html and css only, and a lot of people underestimate those possibilities, resulting in poor js recreations of existing features, more bloat, and poor performance
Also i don't want to put all the blame on the developers themselves, as often the ones who commission a website require a use of a specific frameworks and libraries, where they are absolutely not needed, and also for some websites js is actually needed and used in a good fashion, because html can't really handle logic
All those new and shiny SPA apps 😅😅😅
I kind of often use JavaScript to simplify tasks in web design. So most of my sites won't work. A simple text site might work, but if the site works more like a program in the browser, it won't.
I usually do that when the Website has those annoying pop up that locks up the screen with those "PAY 2 SEE MORE " messages or something like that.
Time for developers to start using wasm
actually, from my experience, TH-cam works surprisingly well even with JavaScript disabled.
I mean... It kinda depends on what you consider as "work", but to be fair, I think having a couple of thinks broken is worth it if it means you won't see any annoying ads..
cookies? hold my incognito mode
bro that loop was amazing
Does react js or js based web still work if javascript disabled ? My first thought is it doesn't work, but I'm curious
React or most spas realistically work by having javascript inject html into a blank root div so I'm guessing no too
"nothing u can do about cookies" what if i open every single webpage i want to visit in a seperate tor browser (:
or Just use "I don't care about cookies" browser extension.
Nice comment from Donald Archer.
We were told to disable it in the late 90s.
Laughs in Tor
Bruh is that septic eye sam in the back?
Disallowing Javascript is perfect for removing paywalls 😊
there are ways to make a website built using JS to still work even with JS disabled.
some uses SSR
the solution i've seen the most that's still being used is using PHP to generate static HTML (this could be done using JS too in SSR)
the trick is to make JS generate most of the code as HTML and CSS without JS to the extent where users will be able to use your site completely with JS disabled.
if there's something wrong here you can tell me.
Personally I have it disabled except on some sites that I know need it in order to work and I'm not using different front ends for
Well I mean I think some browsers allow you block cookies. What you really have to watch out for the pixels which essentially use image tags to run back into code and track you that way...
some websites kinda mostly uses HTML5 and PHP/ASP, though obviously JS is the most common web based programming script
I actually disable Javascript, but then whitelist few sites that i usually use
You can do smt about cookie forms. I have an addon "I don't care about cookies" it just accepts them all. It is not perfect, some sites do bug but it is like 1 in 100.
"no more annoying ads!"
only if TH-cam worked without javascript...
I will eat this phone if 1 out of 500 people even knows that it's possible to disable javascript on browsers
React, Vue, JQuery: 🗿
If you don’t know how to handle cookie windows, then you shouldn’t be disabled JavaScript in the first place, also you can watch videos pretty simply if you use alternate front ends or dlp
The best way to handle cookie windows is to never interact with them, then you're not giving consent to get sprayed with cookies, not even "functional" ones. You can also delete most cookie banners & windows with inspect element. Of course for websites you spend more time on and reload regularly you can choose "Reject all" or if that's not available, "More options...". The really evil ones make you individually disable different third party ad networks manually one by one in a list of hundreds. I rarely bother with those websites.
And there's the option of never saving cookies to begin with, which breaks some websites.
When i first learned css and html from Jeffery Way, he said something like "your html should still be usable even if your js and css is disables
Usable but still a loss of features.
In some situation you don't need JavaScript at all but in some you literally require JavaScript to build your app. If you are building a sort of blog then, reducing or even removing JavaScript might be a good thing (for UX), but in application that is often regularly updated with dynamic content... I don't think Jeffrey Way is true. We are living in a world of constant change, news are often toss around, advertising on the web are everywhere, JavaScript is a good thing not a bad thing actually.
Tbh the best middle ground is to disable their party scripts
eBay has not changed since the 1990s 😂
Now login to your bank webpage, government taxations office page ect... Useless unless you have two profiles
Server side rendering for the win
Brave browser disables cookies entirely, it also removes adds everywhere
I would remove C++ from the Chrome's V8 engine ~ RIP ~
For Average Modern User no Java Scripts is like trying to read with poor eyesight
Internet works without Javascript? What's next, telling me that I don't need to click 'I am not a robot' checkboxes to prove my humanity? Mind blown
if someone uses ellipses like that, never trust that they’re knowledgeable
I do this specifically to debloat news sites.
It's just like you would visit it with an ancient pc
Your website can work without javascript it's just you are gonna have to wait for a reload for every interaction like liking comment or anything s such
CSS has evolved a lot
I can see through that blur, *Donald Archer* .
Good luck using any react website, or any website with a form or any functionality at all really
For forms, it depends on how the form was implemented. Some just use the HTML tag, which doesn't need any JavaScript to function, but will reload the page or redirect you to another one upon submission of the form.
@@theodoros_1234 a lot of modern websites use JavaScript to prevent reloading and also to modify the request
@@neojf1460 wow you’re life sounds incredibly boring, also js doesn’t secure privacy, a lot of data is still transferred, the server will still get your ip, user agent, and referrer
@@neojf1460 you can’t use like 90% of the internet I can’t see how that’s cool, and if what you were saying is true I highly doubt you’d be on this website due to its lack of functionality, why be skeptical of privacy if you don’t have anything to hide
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