Thanks for a full, honest review. And it seems loud...I didn't think about that noise running for an hour and a half at a time! In a tiny home it would definitely be a nuisance.
@@jessesmithchannelJust my two cents I'm interested in getting one of these but the liner part kind of gets to me it's like an extra step before I do my business however I was thinking what would happen if someone were to use it without the liner and REPLACE the liner part with a non-stick anti flammable material (teflon) CAN YOU TRY IT?
We have had our for almost 1 year. We put the vent pipe up above our roofline so we have zero smell. I did add some bubble foil insulation in the walls and built a door with it inside and we can’t even hear it during the burn cycle. The do have a propane option so I am seriously considering that for my next RV and eliminating the need of tank and having 2 grays.
Had one in my camp in northern NH when I bought the place, with myself and 3 girls there were a lot of plumes of pee and the thing wouldn't shut half the time, we nicknamed it the Fire Hopper due to the 2' flame rolling out of it. I finally had enough and ripped it out and put a composting toilet in, haven't missed the Fire Hopper for a second.
Hi Jesse, Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! Since you have been using the incinerating toilet for a while, how do you feel about it now compared to when you first started using it? Has your perception or satisfaction level changed over time?
We haven't gotten down to the cabin as often as we had hoped over the summer. However, we have had a handful of weekends to test it out. For our use case, it's great. If we needed full time use, I would really want to find a more standard water option. Our unit is also one that I repaired by replacing the fan. I think that has resulted in a sliiiiight bit more noise from the fan than usual. That can be a little irritating at times.
We bought our Incinolet (pre-plandemic)... now that we are building up on our property and installing off grid power... preparing to utilize it! Thanks for posting your video! My biggest thing is the power hungry part - we will be employing a 2,000 amp hour battery bank.
@@jessesmithchannel Jesse - we have a decommissioned industrial Absolyte GX 48v/2000Ah from a telecommunications company. It is a Valve Regulated Lead Acid/AGM style. There are 2 volt cells encased in steel boxes. Unfortunately we can't track down the racking parts for stacking them so they take up a lot of real-estate on the floor until we purchase suitable racking and get them vertical...lol! We'll move to a new battery bank when these are completely expended.
You CAN AN SHOULD use a bathroom exhaust fan while the Incinolet is burning. The trick is to wire it as an INTAKE fan so it forces air from the rest of the house into the bathroom. This puts positive pressure in the room, helping the Incinolet's exhaust fan (and burner) do a better faster job.
Air flow is critical, so using an intake fan would be wise. You just don't want an exhaust fan trying to pull air out of the room (which is standard), because it will backdraft the smoke from the incinolet.
this is excellent idea here is my question do you have to burn (flush it) every time or can you burn it at the end of the day if its just one person using it?
Hey Jesse, holy moly your review is the first I've seen that says there is actually poop (pee too?) smell while it's incinerating. So it smells like poop outside while it's operating right? Afterwards too? Is there a pee odor as well? I'm interested in getting a Cinderella for an RV (have been considering it for some time now). Biggest concern would be in RV parks -being "that guy" and putting the neighbors thru that, having them complain about it (because if it was me I would likely complain myself as I don't wanna smell someone else's "waste" burning, - it would likely make me sick). Ya know it's the common sense thing that hits me, as I imagine just lighting a fire like in a fire pit or something and tossing some poop in it. I'm certain it would smell awful, so I've had a hard time imagining that it would be very different with an incinerating toilet .....even though there are so many reviews stating there isn't an odor. Uhg! What to believe?!?! ...Could you give me your opinion when you get a sec? Would super appreciate it. Thanks Steph :D
A new incinolet unit has little or no poo odor. The exhaust does thru platinum pellets in the unit..ie exhaust air goes thru a catalyst converter type chamber. After years usage the pellets work worse . So you open up the pellet chamber and vacuum them out. This basically separates some ash from the pellets and thus makes them have more active surface area..you can also buy several bags of new pellets too. They you refill the pellet chamber with pellets. The reason there is some folks saying there is an poo odor is often the incinolet is older and never maintained. These units have been made over half a century.
There's a city water system, and I had a meter installed at the curb. There's also a low pressure sewer system, but connecting to that would require a very expensive pump and installation. Plus, I would need special permission from the city, because my cabin size is under the minimum for a "residence."
@@jessesmithchannel since you have a meter, will they turn it on, like can you connect a water hose to the line and fill up a water container, for shower water? thanks for sharing
I can’t believe you like these things! I’ve had them on boats before and we just used a bucket rather then smell that god awful thing for hours. I think I made the mistake of using it once and never again. I cut the plug off it so no one else would try to use it! I guarantee you can get one of these for free that has only been used once or maybe twice off any boat that has one!
I can’t seem to get this company to return my phone calls. We have pretty much decided on purchasing one, but i want to get the exact measurements. It’s going in a very small tiny bathroom. It seems their measurements on their website is not matching up to what customers are posting.
It really doesn't use as much as you would expect. The heating element is the biggest draw, and it's only on periodically during the burn process. Otherwise, it's a simple fan motor. No more power than running a convection oven to make dinner.
@@Victory_n_Jesus manual states this - "Power Consumption One complete cycle uses about 1 1/2 to 2 kilowatt hours of electricity. Because you can use INCINOLET any time during the cycle, your “per use” cost is lower."
If you van has a 48v second alternator, like Volta, Mastervolt, Pure, Lithionics, etc do to charge 48v lithium systems, an hour on the road will burn the toilet clean and then recharge the batteries all the rest of the day. Not so crazy compared to black tanks, pumping $tation$, dragging cassettes, or the Laveo nondegradeable sanitary waste. Or all the fake composting toilets, also sanitary waste.
While true, that's a fairly specific application. I've seen builds that do exactly that, and they have massive battery banks. It gets tricky if you plan to set up in one place for any length of time, unless you get a second alternator that can run at idle without burning up.
Great to know! We are going to be living in our 40' RV while we build a modified Earthship Biotecture home. We are on 48v Conext SW4048 Inverter for our off grid power supply (2,000amp hour VLRA battery bank). We will be able to swap out the toilet/seal the black tank and install our Incinolet. We will have a gray-water tank for the other to gray water tanks on board... beats having to fight with the Health Department while we are building!
Congrats on your odorless ass ;) In my experience, it doesn't have much smell, besides a dull burning smell in the area outside. And that dissipates pretty quickly.
Some of y'all needs to pay more attention to details when you're doing videos on TH-cam!...Where's the pan for the supposed BURN WOOD?! How often do you need to change the ash poop pan?!! Can you use that particular toilet for both number one and number two?! And you didn't show the result of the wood after it was supposedly burned to ashes! Which proves nothing!...Know your business before you do those videos!
I'm sorry that my free video service wasn't up to your standards. The pan is below and opens by removing the front panel. You can use it for #1 and #2, and the frequency of emptying the pan is VERY specific to your use case. I had assumed that TH-cam didn't want to see the charred remains of my sh*t, so I cut that portion of the video out.
@@jessesmithchannel, you should have done the same thing by cutting all portions of your response to my comment. Or better yet, why even bother replying at all?? Your video sucks to all hell and damnation, yet you have the audacity to be sarcastic with me?!!...Putting something like that out for public viewing, you should be ASHAMED!!...Go by to video school!!
Thanks for a full, honest review. And it seems loud...I didn't think about that noise running for an hour and a half at a time! In a tiny home it would definitely be a nuisance.
It can be quite loud. My unit is likely a bit louder than most, since I replaced the fan myself.
@@jessesmithchannelJust my two cents I'm interested in getting one of these but the liner part kind of gets to me it's like an extra step before I do my business however I was thinking what would happen if someone were to use it without the liner and REPLACE the liner part with a non-stick anti flammable material (teflon) CAN YOU TRY IT?
My brother in law installed one of those incinolet toilets in a cabin along the coast of Maine about 45 years ago and it worked great then.
Didn't know they had been around that long!
"Does smell like burning poop" ahhh takes me back to the good old days of the burn pits in Afghanistan
Nothing like the smell of burning poop in the morning
We have had our for almost 1 year. We put the vent pipe up above our roofline so we have zero smell. I did add some bubble foil insulation in the walls and built a door with it inside and we can’t even hear it during the burn cycle. The do have a propane option so I am seriously considering that for my next RV and eliminating the need of tank and having 2 grays.
I didn't realize there was a propane option. I wonder how much gas it blows through during a flush cycle.
Had one in my camp in northern NH when I bought the place, with myself and 3 girls there were a lot of plumes of pee and the thing wouldn't shut half the time, we nicknamed it the Fire Hopper due to the 2' flame rolling out of it. I finally had enough and ripped it out and put a composting toilet in, haven't missed the Fire Hopper for a second.
Yeah, this is less than ideal for just going pee.
Hi Jesse, Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts! Since you have been using the incinerating toilet for a while, how do you feel about it now compared to when you first started using it? Has your perception or satisfaction level changed over time?
We haven't gotten down to the cabin as often as we had hoped over the summer. However, we have had a handful of weekends to test it out. For our use case, it's great. If we needed full time use, I would really want to find a more standard water option.
Our unit is also one that I repaired by replacing the fan. I think that has resulted in a sliiiiight bit more noise from the fan than usual. That can be a little irritating at times.
@@jessesmithchannel good know as well... as long as it is not freight-train loud! LOL!
We bought our Incinolet (pre-plandemic)... now that we are building up on our property and installing off grid power... preparing to utilize it! Thanks for posting your video! My biggest thing is the power hungry part - we will be employing a 2,000 amp hour battery bank.
A 2,000 amp hour battery bank is MASSIVE. Are you using lithium batteries? What voltage?
@@jessesmithchannel Jesse - we have a decommissioned industrial Absolyte GX 48v/2000Ah from a telecommunications company. It is a Valve Regulated Lead Acid/AGM style. There are 2 volt cells encased in steel boxes. Unfortunately we can't track down the racking parts for stacking them so they take up a lot of real-estate on the floor until we purchase suitable racking and get them vertical...lol! We'll move to a new battery bank when these are completely expended.
You CAN AN SHOULD use a bathroom exhaust fan while the Incinolet is burning. The trick is to wire it as an INTAKE fan so it forces air from the rest of the house into the bathroom. This puts positive pressure in the room, helping the Incinolet's exhaust fan (and burner) do a better faster job.
Air flow is critical, so using an intake fan would be wise. You just don't want an exhaust fan trying to pull air out of the room (which is standard), because it will backdraft the smoke from the incinolet.
Great to know! We have not installed our unit yet but I will keep this in mind!
this is excellent idea here is my question do you have to burn (flush it) every time or can you burn it at the end of the day if its just one person using it?
We burn it every time. It would get very smelly and potentially overflow if you didn't keep it burnt out.
Hey Jesse, holy moly your review is the first I've seen that says there is actually poop (pee too?) smell while it's incinerating. So it smells like poop outside while it's operating right? Afterwards too? Is there a pee odor as well? I'm interested in getting a Cinderella for an RV (have been considering it for some time now). Biggest concern would be in RV parks -being "that guy" and putting the neighbors thru that, having them complain about it (because if it was me I would likely complain myself as I don't wanna smell someone else's "waste" burning, - it would likely make me sick). Ya know it's the common sense thing that hits me, as I imagine just lighting a fire like in a fire pit or something and tossing some poop in it. I'm certain it would smell awful, so I've had a hard time imagining that it would be very different with an incinerating toilet .....even though there are so many reviews stating there isn't an odor. Uhg! What to believe?!?! ...Could you give me your opinion when you get a sec? Would super appreciate it. Thanks Steph :D
There's no odor inside. But outside, there's a distinct smell. It doesn't smell like poop, but it's an unpleasant, smoky smell for a little while.
A new incinolet unit has little or no poo odor. The exhaust does thru platinum pellets in the unit..ie exhaust air goes thru a catalyst converter type chamber. After years usage the pellets work worse . So you open up the pellet chamber and vacuum them out. This basically separates some ash from the pellets and thus makes them have more active surface area..you can also buy several bags of new pellets too. They you refill the pellet chamber with pellets.
The reason there is some folks saying there is an poo odor is often the incinolet is older and never maintained.
These units have been made over half a century.
Are you able to get county water for the shower without a septic tank ?
There's a city water system, and I had a meter installed at the curb. There's also a low pressure sewer system, but connecting to that would require a very expensive pump and installation. Plus, I would need special permission from the city, because my cabin size is under the minimum for a "residence."
@@jessesmithchannel since you have a meter, will they turn it on, like can you connect a water hose to the line and fill up a water container, for shower water? thanks for sharing
Can we place it outside instead of in the cabin?
I wouldn't recommend that!
Nice looking toilet!
Thanks! Refurbished it myself.
@@jessesmithchannel Nice bro!
Sounds great plus never have a clogged toilet ever again
That's the dream!
I can’t believe you like these things! I’ve had them on boats before and we just used a bucket rather then smell that god awful thing for hours. I think I made the mistake of using it once and never again. I cut the plug off it so no one else would try to use it! I guarantee you can get one of these for free that has only been used once or maybe twice off any boat that has one!
To each their own. This works for us, and the smell is minimal, and no smell inside the cabin.
Must have access to power? Not off grid
I've seen van builds with these, but it requires a massive battery bank and inverter.
@@jessesmithchannel some are propane?
I can’t seem to get this company to return my phone calls. We have pretty much decided on purchasing one, but i want to get the exact measurements. It’s going in a very small tiny bathroom. It seems their measurements on their website is not matching up to what customers are posting.
I have tried to contact them directly, but my parts order was shipped quickly
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I don't like the liner, to me, it isn't big enough to cover the exposed area.
I guess that depends on your personal blast radius 😅
Pretty pooper you got there. Can't wait to drop by and take a big ol' crap!
C'mon over
It must use a ton of electricity.
It really doesn't use as much as you would expect. The heating element is the biggest draw, and it's only on periodically during the burn process. Otherwise, it's a simple fan motor. No more power than running a convection oven to make dinner.
Do you know the wattage ot uses?
@@Victory_n_Jesus manual states this - "Power Consumption One complete cycle uses about 1 1/2 to 2 kilowatt hours of electricity. Because you can use INCINOLET any time during the cycle, your “per use” cost is lower."
If you van has a 48v second alternator, like Volta, Mastervolt, Pure, Lithionics, etc do to charge 48v lithium systems, an hour on the road will burn the toilet clean and then recharge the batteries all the rest of the day.
Not so crazy compared to black tanks, pumping $tation$, dragging cassettes, or the Laveo nondegradeable sanitary waste. Or all the fake composting toilets, also sanitary waste.
While true, that's a fairly specific application. I've seen builds that do exactly that, and they have massive battery banks. It gets tricky if you plan to set up in one place for any length of time, unless you get a second alternator that can run at idle without burning up.
Great to know! We are going to be living in our 40' RV while we build a modified Earthship Biotecture home. We are on 48v Conext SW4048 Inverter for our off grid power supply (2,000amp hour VLRA battery bank). We will be able to swap out the toilet/seal the black tank and install our Incinolet. We will have a gray-water tank for the other to gray water tanks on board... beats having to fight with the Health Department while we are building!
Odorless my ass.. lol. But yea i found one on marketplace for 400$., lol.
Congrats on your odorless ass ;)
In my experience, it doesn't have much smell, besides a dull burning smell in the area outside. And that dissipates pretty quickly.
Lighting a candle or keeping sulfur matches handy might be of help...
Damn buying a used toilet is crazy😅
Maybe... But not as crazy as spending $2,000 on a new one!
Diarrhea?
Hopefully not
Some of y'all needs to pay more attention to details when you're doing videos on TH-cam!...Where's the pan for the supposed BURN WOOD?! How often do you need to change the ash poop pan?!! Can you use that particular toilet for both number one and number two?! And you didn't show the result of the wood after it was supposedly burned to ashes! Which proves nothing!...Know your business before you do those videos!
I'm sorry that my free video service wasn't up to your standards.
The pan is below and opens by removing the front panel. You can use it for #1 and #2, and the frequency of emptying the pan is VERY specific to your use case.
I had assumed that TH-cam didn't want to see the charred remains of my sh*t, so I cut that portion of the video out.
@@jessesmithchannel, you should have done the same thing by cutting all portions of your response to my comment. Or better yet, why even bother replying at all?? Your video sucks to all hell and damnation, yet you have the audacity to be sarcastic with me?!!...Putting something like that out for public viewing, you should be ASHAMED!!...Go by to video school!!
@@jessesmithchannel chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/incinolet.com/downloads/Incinolet_Manual_23_V2.pdf
Some of yall need to do your own homework and not be a dickhead.
@@jessesmithchannel I often wonder if someone even watched or listened to the say video I did! No sweat, Jessie! You did fine!