The Story of the WCW Invasion: The Alliance vs WWF

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    For years, the WWF and WCW were rivals and fans would discuss what would happen if guys like the WWF’s Undertaker faced off with WCW’s Sting, what if DX had a match with the nWo, the possibilities were endless. In 2001, Vince McMahon was able to purchase WCW when the higher ups at AOL Time Warner decided they did not want wrestling on their television networks, and so these dream matches could now be a real possibility.
    Plans were put in place for a WCW invasion. This storyline would take over the WWF’s programming for nearly half a year, and when all was said and done, some fans were left scratching their heads. Many of WCW’s biggest superstars like Ric Flair, Goldberg and the nWo had lucrative contracts with WCW’s former parent company Time Warner, and many of these top stars did not make the jump over to the WWF. Instead, the bigger stars of WCW decided to collect a paycheck for sitting at home. The WWF still went ahead with the WCW invasion storyline, however they had to use somewhat “lesser” superstars. To compensate, wrestlers from ECW were also brought in to give the WCW roster a boost, and so the WCW invasion became “The Alliance” invasion.
    This mini documentary from Wrestling Bios takes a look at the initial few months of the WCW Invasion storyline. Topics covered include:
    00:00 - An introduction to the WCW Invasion
    03:34 - WCW's biggest stars missing the Invasion
    09:05 - The Invasion officially kicks off
    13:05 - The Buff Bagwell vs Booker T WCW Raw Match
    15:55 - ECW and WCW form The Alliance
    19:39 - The Invasion Pay Per View
    - Much More
    #WWE #WCW #Wrestling
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  • @BlackFlash7
    @BlackFlash7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    There's a reason why CM Punk said Vince is a millionaire that should be a billionaire 🙄

  • @xlixity
    @xlixity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    In the end, BookerT got way more out of signing immediately with the WWF than by sitting out his contract.
    The hustle paid off.

    • @blackpanzerkampfwagen8514
      @blackpanzerkampfwagen8514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yea Tru that...I can see it..It really does..

    • @iammaximumstupied
      @iammaximumstupied 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Plus he didn't have much of an ego. Sting is the only other person I believe didn't sign just because of the treatment. I feel if book was treated better he would have gone in.

    • @Chukijay
      @Chukijay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It was a reward for his efforts. Vince has his head a hundred feet up his own ass but he acknowledges hard work and rewards it.

    • @ShawnKavanagh
      @ShawnKavanagh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Hey Vince, you'll never believe where I'm at.." :P

    • @WillsonT011
      @WillsonT011 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Chukijay that sounds nice but let's not act like Booker T was given a high push right away😐 it still took years for him to get his respect and even then it wasn't until he became King Book-Ahh

  • @outlawrip-offartist4161
    @outlawrip-offartist4161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Earl Hebner versus Nick Patrick is one of the greatest matches of all time.

    • @d941997
      @d941997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That match was hilarious.

    • @thecoolkids2443
      @thecoolkids2443 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must have missed Trish & Lita vs. Torrie and Stacie.

    • @ryanhatch8033
      @ryanhatch8033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This Austin heel turn sealed the deal of the best of times.. this storyline could have save Wrestlemania X7s Heel turn.. that was the dagger, the Invasion to Austin turning heel once more too much

    • @pizzahighfive2612
      @pizzahighfive2612 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ryanhatch8033 They f'n trolled us with him turning face for like a week then turning back heel

  • @jamalsg44ja
    @jamalsg44ja 4 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Paul Heyman literally what said what I’ve been saying for years lol. The key guys weren’t there and Vince was too impatient to give it time..... Had he been patient it would’ve been the greatest storyline ever 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @walker1984
      @walker1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Politics would still have gotten in the way. WWE guys were not going to put feelings aside to job to perceived WCW guys for the good of the business. The boys in the back just couldn't see the big picture. Instead, what they saw was why am I laying down for a 2nd or 3rd rate wrestler from a company that went under.

    • @alexmarquez9639
      @alexmarquez9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@walker1984 ok and what is their choice? They do what they're told or they can go.
      This whole inmates running the asylum thing seemed to start around the wcw purchase. I would have had one of my "big names" particularly that overrated third stringer Triple H whom I would have jobbed to Booker!
      If I'm Vince I set the precedent "you refuse a job we will fire you or bret hart you. Nobody is bigger than this company especially you triple h you've never been a proven draw without mick Foley or rock or austin around you and booker t and scott Steiner have proven they can draw working with that nobody jeff Jarrett.. You do the job or you can pack your bags"

    • @DoubleDash28
      @DoubleDash28 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul Heyman sniffs poo poo from butt 💨💨💨💨😶‍🌫️

    • @Boygonebad
      @Boygonebad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The angle was still hot with the guys they had. Vince and company just jobbed out the WCW guys and made it a McMahon family feud AGAIN.
      Only RVD and Booker survived WWE stupid ass invasion booking.

    • @munchenonyou3774
      @munchenonyou3774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@alexmarquez9639theres a difference between losing for the good of a storyline and jobbing

  • @criminalmindsgirl2936
    @criminalmindsgirl2936 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    The Invasion was the end of the Attitude Era.

    • @JohnHillEU
      @JohnHillEU 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Early Invasion time was when I stopped watching personally

    • @leonarddillon256
      @leonarddillon256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I actually believe that Wrestlemania X7 is the end of the Attitude. The moment Stone Cold became heel, the momentum was over. And seeing Austin in 2001 turn babyface & then back as a heel again for this Invasion Angle, could never bring back WWE’s peak ever again

    • @JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re
      @JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah. I remember when I was a kid watching the invasion, and just seeing how the WWF was not the same anymore. I saw how the storylines declined and the overall product just started going downhill from there.

    • @JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re
      @JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@leonarddillon256 I was never a fan of the "What!?" Stone Cold Steve Austin or Heel for that matter. He was so good when he was just the ass whippin Texas rattlesnake.

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the draft was the end of the Attitude ERa

  • @S0METHINGWILD88
    @S0METHINGWILD88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +425

    They turned a potentially golden storyline into another McMahon self-indulgence rush.

    • @jodistotts-massy840
      @jodistotts-massy840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      It's something that will never get to see ever in this lifetime because Vince McMahon was too impatient

    • @lutherheggs451
      @lutherheggs451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yeah no LMFAO...They weren't going to pay the contracts of the top guys whos contracts were owned by AOL/Time Warner....They did what they could do with what they had...Nobody with a brain would be paying millions upon millions to get the tip top guys....

    • @ahmadceasar5484
      @ahmadceasar5484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@lutherheggs451 how come he won't he does it now with Brock he's been doing it for years he was just selfish

    • @SouthEastSD619
      @SouthEastSD619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      This storyline could have been huge. It could have dragged on for a while. I still to this day feel cheated out of it.

    • @kellylynn2584
      @kellylynn2584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SouthEastSD619 I agree with you

  • @jeremywilliams5141
    @jeremywilliams5141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    If there was one thing that ruined the Invasion storyline, it was Vince McMahon's ego. I think we can concur with that fact.

  • @shigekai6391
    @shigekai6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    They honestly could've used ppl like Raven and RVD In bigger roles but they we're reduced to Hardcore Title and raven was reduced to Heat, Raven was perfect he was a big deal in both ECW and WCW.

    • @alexmarquez9639
      @alexmarquez9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hey at least RVD was in main events and big angles... raven was a waste.

    • @ThisIsNotYourFriend
      @ThisIsNotYourFriend ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vinces ego is so big that he couldn't stand to put any talent over that he himself didn't create. I know he was a great businessman but I can't help but think the WWE could be alot bigger if someone else was at the reigns. It's not a coincidence that every single one of Vinces business ventures outside of wrestling have failed dismally.

  • @hootie34667
    @hootie34667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    The biggest "What if" ever in wrestling.

    • @yashbspianoandcompositions1042
      @yashbspianoandcompositions1042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For me the biggest "what if" would be WCW pay per view 2001 "the Big Bang"

    • @delcodel6835
      @delcodel6835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No, that belongs to the: What if Mark Henry’s hand baby survived?????

    • @KoToCoNDoR
      @KoToCoNDoR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@delcodel6835 it did, it showed up in one of the raw anniversary episode last years, as a grown young boy

    • @Ginga
      @Ginga 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It could have been handled so much better.

    • @charlesalexander560
      @charlesalexander560 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What if Head actually talks to Al Snow 🤔

  • @igorivanov299
    @igorivanov299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    The word "Invasion" should never be associated with this angle.
    Jobber and mid-card talent hoping to have jobs, while Vince squats and takes a massive dumb over the wCw and ECW brands angle.
    Not as catchy but way more accurate.

    • @Rick-si1re
      @Rick-si1re 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Agreed, even if just unconsciously, Vince was going to make his brand look superior, the real "War" that happened between the brands in the mid to late 90s was real and Bischoff (who come to think of it SHOULD have been there to head up the WCW part!) almost put McMahon out of business. I mean I know that McMahon still probably held a grudge over them because of that. Another thing I think was really stupid is why did "Team WWF" have Chris Jericho on it, shouldn't he have defected to the WCW or something, that was dumb and it would have made more sense to have him be on team WCW since they were lacking star power any way!

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is true. Chris was beginning to turn heel so it would have made sense for him to join the Alliance. Made more sense than Stone Cold

    • @joiekelly3141
      @joiekelly3141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think in this case either word actually works great.

    • @greenmanjph
      @greenmanjph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kevinlee9929 Count me in with those people. I was a loyal wrestling fan from 1983, and became a Hulkamanic after he defeated the Iron Sheik in '84. I loved switching between WWF and WCW during the Monday night wars, seeing who jumped ship to the competition, and my wife even bought me shares of WWF stock for my birthday when they went public. Unfortunately, I saw the WWF get too big for their britches and steady go downhill after the purchase and terrible "invasion" angle. In the end I haven't watched WWF programming since the early 2000s. Such a shame.

    • @jasonmatthews4449
      @jasonmatthews4449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kevinlee9929 are you serious? But that was back in the day like 04-05 I was like 7 and Eddie Guerrero vs Chris benoit storyline was great amongst other storylines.

  • @WaterborneCamper
    @WaterborneCamper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    This could have been SOOOO much better, if they had just been a little more patient

    • @JM1993951
      @JM1993951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And an invasion from a group that in kayfabe took its time to recover and get stronger before invading could’ve paid off rather than a desperate group of lower-mid card guys doing whatever they could to eat.

    • @trueSconox
      @trueSconox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that had nothing to do with patience.

    • @Dave0G
      @Dave0G 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or if the WWF coffers hadn't taken a $muli-million hit from the XFL failure just before, though even if he still had the money Vince might still have balked at paying a wrestler "entertainment" money.

    • @Rick-si1re
      @Rick-si1re 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah they should have waited till 2003 when they had at least gotten Steiner and Goldberg and a few others. ..oh yeah and Flair

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rick-si1re 2003 was when Austin was done in the ring...Rock also went awoll to hollywood. Dumb idea

  • @KasirRham
    @KasirRham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Sting vs Taker, Booker T vs Rock, Austin vs Goldberg, Hogan vs Triple H, Steiner vs Batista. All in big brutal hard hitting matches would've been great.

    • @kingkazerous80x58
      @kingkazerous80x58 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Triple h is trash

    • @jayrulez7808
      @jayrulez7808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      More like Hogan vs Austin
      Goldberg vs Lesnar
      Booker T vs The Rock
      Sting vs The Undertaker
      Scott Hall vs Shawn Michaels

    • @mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
      @mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some of them happened.
      I'd say
      Austin vs Goldberg
      The Rock vs The People's Champion Diamond Dallas Page DDP
      Steiner Brothers vs the Brothers of Destruction
      Sting vs Mick Foley
      3 Count vs Too Cool and Rikishi

    • @xPadge112x
      @xPadge112x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Batista didn't come in until the Dudleys split after Invasion.
      Was the Brand wars then.
      Reverend Dvon anyone???
      OH TESTIFY!!!

    • @mikebottomlesspitdunham2954
      @mikebottomlesspitdunham2954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xPadge112x and Lesnar also didn't arrive until 2002.

  • @tangoplays2547
    @tangoplays2547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I'd like to see a standalone Booker T vid, was always a fan of his, especially when he started flying solo.

  • @tonytom5242
    @tonytom5242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I will say Booker T made a good career move and made more money long term and proving his talent over and over to WWE....as a kid I was a WWF vs WCW guy and Booker T quickly became one of my favs

  • @josamaroo
    @josamaroo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The best thing that happened during the Invasion Angle was when Stone Cold gave Kurt Angle that tiny cowboy hat, and I'm not even sure if that happened during the actual Invasion. Proves how crappy it was.

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    WWE vs WCW in the game, WWE 12 was better than the actual thing.

    • @TruthWarriorB88
      @TruthWarriorB88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh, yeah. 💯

    • @edgameplays5066
      @edgameplays5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That is a fact.

    • @Rick-si1re
      @Rick-si1re 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yep that and too many backstage brawls and handicap matches.

    • @diqflip205
      @diqflip205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Rick I hated having to fight Vader and Booker T like 7 times

    • @timbartschwolfman
      @timbartschwolfman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True

  • @scottodrowsky9835
    @scottodrowsky9835 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Blame Stasiak!
    "WCW Thunder vs the rest of the WWF." Never looked at it that way before!

  • @petenojd
    @petenojd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    A few thoughts:
    1. As per usual, great video man. I look for your content weekly.
    2. Re Booker: the more I learn about this guy (and watch back his matches/promos), the more I like him. Taking the risk to join the WWE early was a good one to take, even if the WWE didn't give him the push they should have.
    3. On Waiting for the stars to push the Invasion angle: I think that would have run the risk of the interest fizzling out. A year is a long time to wait when everyone is expecting the angle. There's something to be said for striking when the iron is hot. I think it was a lose/lose situation for the WWE. That said,
    4. Burying guys like DDP, who was one of a very few legit stars in WCW who made the move was nothing more than the WWE shooting itself in the foot. I also agree that having Stephanie "own" ECW didn't make any sense.
    5. I'm looking forward to Part 2!

  • @mrblonde609
    @mrblonde609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Fans: We want WCW. We want Sting, Flair, Nash, Hogan etc.
    Vince McMahon: We have WCW at home.

    • @bpo1975
      @bpo1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Vince: You get to watch me feud with Shane and Stephanie.

    • @cjvaye99
      @cjvaye99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember the raw after king of the ring Edge vs Billy Gunn. Billy hit a jackhammer on Edge and the crow started chanting for Goldberg. Also I forget which Raw but during one of Shane and Stephanie's many long winded rambling alliance promos on Raw you could hear the crowd chanting "we want Sting" lmao

    • @calvinwright2214
      @calvinwright2214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂😂😂

    • @jasonwilliams5550
      @jasonwilliams5550 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

    • @philiptucker7590
      @philiptucker7590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me and my friends actually like WCW at joke 🥴

  • @dmaster5556
    @dmaster5556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    LMAO that shot of Vince at 18:41 perfectly describes the whole Invasion in a nutshell

  • @JayJay-ku8gp
    @JayJay-ku8gp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I always wanted an R-truth vs Booker T match. The battle of the real scissors kick 🤣

    • @meteornome2556
      @meteornome2556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      K-Kwik at the time.

    • @complexfellow4961
      @complexfellow4961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep to amazing athletes would have been great

  • @BronzeAgeBryon
    @BronzeAgeBryon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Let's say the example is ball park accurate: Vince won't pay Goldberg $$ in his prime, but rather overpay him in 2019 when he was just a shell of his former self.

    • @Coldstone47034
      @Coldstone47034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Goldberg to me was just an entrance & a cool spear. I only respected the Jackhammer when he used it on guys as big as the Giant or Reese

    • @showtimesportsmedia6906
      @showtimesportsmedia6906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He got him still kinda in his prime in 03

    • @showtimesportsmedia6906
      @showtimesportsmedia6906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Coldstone47034 yeah but he really should've been treated better the first time around. But old trips just had to have his way. They killed him after the rock died once he lost the chamber match

    • @BrentWoodSean38
      @BrentWoodSean38 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Showtime Sports Media The guy only had a 1 year contract

    • @anthonyanderson9303
      @anthonyanderson9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@showtimesportsmedia6906 the problem was Goldberg got exposed. He wasn't able to have a WWF style main event match. He wasn't going to be allowed to just come in and squash top guys in 2 minutes. Having said that he still ran through everyone except HHH and even then look how strong Goldberg was at the elimination chamber. He destroyed Jericho and HBk and it took all of evolution to beat him.

  • @outspokengaming8850
    @outspokengaming8850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Vince wanted to destroy wcw that is the main reason why he didn’t wait for the bigger talent he wanted to make sure nobody would want anything to do with the wcw again and I think it worked

    • @rx_jaydot7532
      @rx_jaydot7532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That maybe true but Vince also loves success and this story line would've could've been wayy better

    • @rodgerjackson1368
      @rodgerjackson1368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      now they all going to AEw

  • @NaZtRdAmUs
    @NaZtRdAmUs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The WcW/EcW "invasion" was the biggest waste of talent ever all we got was Vince putting over WWE again and again.

    • @My19812011
      @My19812011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And it’s been going on now for nearly 20 years, Vince still to this day buries WCW as much as possible

    • @spookerredmenace3950
      @spookerredmenace3950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@My19812011 he does it to NXT stars as well

    • @SpeedChamp467
      @SpeedChamp467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it still to this day boggles the mind to think what if Shane took over instead of Stephanie? If the Alliance won he could have turned the whole WWE into a WCW kind of company being advised by Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff. The fans would have loved it and it would have been an amazing end to Shane's feud with Vince.

    • @SpeedChamp467
      @SpeedChamp467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Misguided Angel Most of the guys you mentioned had a lot of potential and more years in the business than you even know about. And that wasn't even the point. Did you even read my post? Clearly not.

    • @AJ-dx6bn
      @AJ-dx6bn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea just dump those wwe talent to aew and get overpushed then jobbed

  • @leonarddillon256
    @leonarddillon256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    0:17 Lol Hearing Vince McMahon’s theme at the beginning is a suitable start to show that Invasion Angle wasn’t about WCW/ECW vs WWF, but instead another McMahon family feud. 😂

  • @MikeWazOcka
    @MikeWazOcka 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the scissor kick that Booker T hit on Vince was the absolute best!

  • @LteasAVFC
    @LteasAVFC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Constantly smashing out the content, and its dam good content at that.!

    • @tysoncarpenter8628
      @tysoncarpenter8628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hell yeah man. I completely agree!!!!! Love this content!!!!!

    • @Dreamerland101
      @Dreamerland101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smashing lol

    • @thomascrowley9122
      @thomascrowley9122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep

    • @thomascrowley9122
      @thomascrowley9122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FriendlyDiscourse What you doing with your life?

    • @scottmcgeachie5146
      @scottmcgeachie5146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FriendlyDiscourse I know this is a troll comment. But if this video is just up and you have a comment on it means that you are subscribed to this channel... twisted much?

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When Shane announced on that last WCW nitro that he had bought WCW and had beaten Vince to the punch in buying them, the reaction was absolutely brilliant. Especially by Vince. Unfortunately it was all downhill after that. One of the biggest missed opportunities ever by the WWF. If they had either waited for the big stars or even bought out their time Warner contracts they would have had a great storyline for a year or more. They could have struck gold. That they didn’t was down to the impatience of the WWF management.

    • @mrkipling2201
      @mrkipling2201 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Misguided Angel should have bought out their contracts then. That would have guaranteed brilliant storylines.

  • @Jimmy_Hopkins15
    @Jimmy_Hopkins15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I thought the Invasion storyline could of been better if they added Sting Goldberg and Nash and Hogan for WCW and if HHH didnt get injured

  • @carlosmontesinos1544
    @carlosmontesinos1544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    19 years later, I still think the WWF could have make The Big Show a.k.a. The Giant join WCW. He was a Power Plant alumni and a former champion. He wasn't the biggest name, but it was a name. Who TF is Reno!?

    • @catguy00
      @catguy00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. The Giant joining WCW would have made more sense then Austin joining.

  • @superrobz
    @superrobz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    There’s many things that bother me about this train wreck of an angle, but seeing Rock say “who are you?” and seeing Austin stomp Taz like he was a jobber was enough to make me done with it

    • @TheSBleeder
      @TheSBleeder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Don't forget the Undertaker saying that DDP "isn't famous because he sucks). And then beating him around like a jobber at King of the Ring.

    • @superrobz
      @superrobz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      TheSBleeder that too

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      DDP got it worse. He went from a main event star in WCW to a jobber in WWE. Vince just would not let his pettiness go.

    • @JM1993951
      @JM1993951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Razz was ruined in the WWF by mid 2000.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If you mean Taz than yes,I agree. He was ruined by mid 2000.

  • @ta0paipai
    @ta0paipai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stone Cold and RVD's interactions made it worthwhile for me. The watch segment was hilarious.

    • @cjvaye99
      @cjvaye99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "raaa vaaaa daaa WHAT"

  • @London.Bridgez
    @London.Bridgez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Shane McMahon's jerseys were always 🔥

  • @nickneurohr5422
    @nickneurohr5422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You just keep coming up with the best content when it comes to Wrestling. I'm glad to see you put so much time, passion and effort into your channel my dude.

  • @ShaunInce123
    @ShaunInce123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This angle could have gone better if they had waited a year.

    • @MN_2003
      @MN_2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If only you were there in that room with all those dumb brains 😒

    • @23and0
      @23and0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It wouldn't have mattered if all the top talent like sting and Goldberg came over too. Vince woukd have squashed them anyway.
      Look what he done to DDP and booker T

    • @Robman0908
      @Robman0908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      asatruben87 This. None of this mattered since Vince was just going to job these guys anyways. The nWo finally shows up and they just jobbed and were done in quick order.

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MN_2003 If they waited a year, Austin's health was declining and Rock was off to Hollywood. Terrible idea, kid

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@23and0 Uh yes it wouldve,kid. If WCW top guys came over, it wouldve been more convincing. Goldberg and STing are way above DDP and Booker T

  • @richardthompson3499
    @richardthompson3499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s insane how many opportunities Vince McMahon have blown

  • @johnyporter6341
    @johnyporter6341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I’ve spent the last 3 months working as a nurse on a covid + ward for the elderly. Your videos help keep me going. Cheers mate

    • @DuckTheHeel
      @DuckTheHeel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Stay strong brother

    • @johnyporter6341
      @johnyporter6341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Paladino, thanks man. Stay smart, stay safe

  • @slicetee3985
    @slicetee3985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember seeing this as a kid thinking this is one of the best things ever. Watching all those wrestlers face each other in the wwe and now realizing how much of a mess this angle was.

    • @Macabre124
      @Macabre124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know. My jaw dropped when the WCW/ECW invasion began. I was so excited then it just was a big let down. Just every match simply being interrupted

  • @hooksncrosses3419
    @hooksncrosses3419 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember being so excited about the invasion. I watched the invasion PPV and as the show went on, I got more and more fed up with it. The main events conclusion made me go "oh, come on!"🤦‍♂️😂😂

  • @barnabylowe1239
    @barnabylowe1239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    A complete burial from start to finish and the big stars especially Sting knew Vince holds a grudge and they would be buried immediately upon arrival in WWF.

    • @money345atherley2
      @money345atherley2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Misguided Angel have you seen how ddp was booked in the invasion storyline? it Vince McMahon after all

    • @money345atherley2
      @money345atherley2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sting should have never come to WWE

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      when did Sting get "buried immediately up arrival"?

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@money345atherley2 That was Undertaker who personally didnt like DDP, not Vince

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@maxmeza4859 He was put in a storyline where despite Sting making it clear he was there to stop The Authority abusing its power the announcers and Triple H treated it like it was a WWE vs WCW feud and that Sting was WCW's last remnant trying to "avenge" it even though in his promo Sting said that since WCW had been out of business for 13 or 14 years by that point so it'd be stupid. Then they had Sting's kayfabe worst enemies, the NWO come out to help him and the supposed "anti authority rebels" DX helping the company's COO. And instead of having Sting win like they should have Triple H won.

  • @wbbooth
    @wbbooth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The output on this channel just continues to impress. You are killing the game right now.

  • @aznpikachu215
    @aznpikachu215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I honestly feel that it was a good idea. It was just due to egos, impatience, and executed poorly on the WWE's part. It could have been the biggest, but McMahon just choked on this clutch idea.

  • @jb888888888
    @jb888888888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On Stone Cold's podcast he had Buff Bagwell on talking about the Invasion, and SC said he was watching the Buff/Booker match recently (at the time of the podcast obviously) and thought it was pretty good. Then he saw Austin and Angle run in to beat up the WCW guys. Steve had no memory of doing that!

  • @FunkSwaggMusiK
    @FunkSwaggMusiK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Way to go Staziak🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @westgirl7522
      @westgirl7522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He was well buried after that.

  • @robertrinehartjr9090
    @robertrinehartjr9090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You sir, have highlighted every single important moment from this era that we could care about and even allot we may not care to much for. You portray every wrestler in these bios for exactly who they were. Looking back and being a pre-20yr old, and watching your bios, we are educated in so many ways that 20yrs ago you could of never imagined. You have come across a goldmine and you treat it as a valuable commodity that we all have to have and it shows in the way you put together these clips and do commentary on things that most of the time no one knew 20yrs ago. Thank you for week after week of taking the time to make sure i am entertained. ALL HAIL WRESTLING BIOS FOREVER!!

  • @swan-senpai
    @swan-senpai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I really enjoyed the Invasion, I never watch WCW so didn't know who I was missing out on, I just knew this was another company of new guys coming in and taking over, it was exciting, I'd never heard of Nash, Hogan, Goldberg, Flair etc. so I didn't know these invaders weren't "top" guys.

  • @marky437
    @marky437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember the Invasion and was disapponted by not seeing many of the big players of WCW but I do remember Sean O'Haire - wasted potential for a wrestler of his size, skill and speed he could of been massive.

  • @LostScribe
    @LostScribe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great recap! The reason the WWE couldn't wait to do the invasion is the WCW brand would have been basically dead after two years of non activity. They needed to strike while it was still fresh in everyone's mind.

  • @nestornieto8342
    @nestornieto8342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man, this work rate of yours is crazy man!!! keep up the amazing content coming buddy!!!!

    • @TheSBleeder
      @TheSBleeder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously. This channel is churning out amazing stuff.

  • @reloadpsi
    @reloadpsi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If Triple H hadn't spent the Invasion angle in rehab, Stephanie probably wouldn't have been made the ECW owner, but they apparently "needed" something for her to do.

  • @deanbecenti9769
    @deanbecenti9769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Underrated TH-cam Channel definitely deserves to be bigger.

    • @TheSBleeder
      @TheSBleeder 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's relatively new. It will pick up.

  • @anthonyanderson9303
    @anthonyanderson9303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I believe they jumped the gun on the angle cuz the roster was being spread thin by mid 2001. HHH and Benoit were out with injuries, Rock was gone making a movie, they were running out of bodies and thus Vince panicked a little. I will say tho, the angle did help elevate guys like Angle and Jericho to more main even level. And obviously it helped guys like Booker and RVD on the other side.

  • @mazzb305
    @mazzb305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Weird that Vince and Time Warner couldn't work out some sort of deal where Vince agreed to pay a portion of the WCW's stars contracts. Would've been a win win for both sides.

  • @theonewhowokeup9987
    @theonewhowokeup9987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That invasion angle was all messed up should've waited till the contract issues was solved.

  • @ADAM_COLLECTS
    @ADAM_COLLECTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know a guy who had a contract with WCW, a nice lucrative one. McMahon offered him 30 cents on the dollar so he could work. He, like others (Nash, Hall, Hogan, Goldberg) sat at home

  • @freddiejohnson6137
    @freddiejohnson6137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me if they had just stretched the invasion out several more months they would have had all of the top WCW guys that decided to sit out their contracts. If they had the likes of Hogan, Hall, Nash, Flair, Stiener, Rey Mysterio and Goldberg it would have made it much more worth while and the planned brand split as one being RAW and the other being Nitro would have probably worked more so if they had brought in Eric Bischoff to run it on screen like he did as GM of RAW. Then with the possibility of a third show of ECW with Paul Heyman running it on screen.

  • @poopsyko
    @poopsyko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It seems like DDP was the only one who really didn’t get over in WWF

  • @WarhawkBeyond2040
    @WarhawkBeyond2040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Aside from all of the great matches that came out of this, the entire so called invasion angle was a complete disaster and became all about the Mcmahons again
    The WCW / ECW alliance may have won a few big matches here and there but they were mostly booked to look completely weak, to make matters worse WWF wrestlers started "jumping ship" to join the enemy's side including their biggest star Stone Cold which was completely stupid. By the time we got to Survivor Series, it was mostly WWF vs WWF with 1 ECW guy and 1 WCW guy.
    What hurt a lot of this was we didn't have any of the big names like Goldberg, Sting and the NWO. If Vince waited until 2002 or 2003 when we had these guys in the company then they could have done the invasion angle and it would have worked out so much better than the car crash we got instead.
    We could have had tons of dream matches and it is such a shame that things didn't work out well because with time, care and good booking, this could have done huge business but sadly it is what it is.

  • @jimbowers1693
    @jimbowers1693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad I've witnessed this channel growing, it really is a part of my weekly schedule

  • @lukebaer6258
    @lukebaer6258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The damn music/siren/whatever the hell the noise was when they were "invaded" killed it (at least for me)

  • @chrisbillups3632
    @chrisbillups3632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DDP had a major pop when he showed up, just to get buried like he did...

  • @RetroHabit82
    @RetroHabit82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    We wanted Hogan, Nash and Goldberg but we got
    Palumbo, Helms and Stasiak

  • @MainForcePatrolKZ
    @MainForcePatrolKZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You did a great job with this bud! Loved it, gave me a proper nostalgia rush but a new perspective on what went down. On to part 2...

  • @josephbekin
    @josephbekin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was that R-Truth with the WWE back during the invasion?? The man doesn’t age!

    • @CaptainBones
      @CaptainBones 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. R-Truth wasn't a WWE superstar back than.

  • @andrewosborne7544
    @andrewosborne7544 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When this happened I was the target age for this type of content, I was hyped, I remember switching back and forth between Raw and Nitro, Thunder and Smackdown and I thought wow now they're going to be on the same show. I remember now that the handling of this is what made me stop watching WWF content. (still don't to this day!) The part that really made me mad was the handling of DDP, turned him into a creepy stalker?? Did Vince even watch WCW content?. Great videos man!

  • @edgameplays5066
    @edgameplays5066 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Stephanie Mchman as the owner of ECW,was too far.

  • @orangeoctober.
    @orangeoctober. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember being in middle school during the Monday Night Wars era and my and my friends would talk about the hypothetical WWF vs WCW dream match ups we wished we could see like Sting vs The Undertaker, Sting vs Mankind, Goldberg vs Steve Austin, The Outsiders vs HHH/Shawn Michaels, The Rock vs Diamond Dallas Page, Harlem Heat vs The New Age Outlaws, Eric Bischoff vs Mr. McMahon, etc. If the actual merger angle had like even 2 of those matches at the time, it could have been incredible. I understand why it didn't happen at the time, but as mentioned in the video they should have waited a bit longer to try and get some of the actual WCW stars. Like Paul Heyman said, the WCW invasion roster was like something you'd see on a watered down version of Thunder. Also, making Stephanie the storyline CEO of ECW was just a slap in the face to the ECW brand and its fans. She was the total opposite of everything ECW was supposed to be.

  • @KevinWCase
    @KevinWCase 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The history of Too Cool!!!!
    Everyone's solo story leading up to the formation, and the immense popularity of the group.
    Thanks.
    I'd love to see your take on it.
    Love your content.

  • @eklypised
    @eklypised 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This could have been one of the best angles ever...butttt we know how they F”d it up

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You forgot to mention that Mike Awesome showed up on the Raw from Madison Square Garden and won the Hardcore Title from Rhyno

  • @ironlift2275
    @ironlift2275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The quality of your videos is untouched man.

  • @rezinAKAkillergoat
    @rezinAKAkillergoat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Exactly the content I needed right now. Just getting back into wrasslin but was out during this time. Checked on this storyline about a week ago, but glad I get to hear it from you!

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It could've been so much better.

  • @nightmarezer0507
    @nightmarezer0507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how you say Dubya-see-Dubya. I dunno why it just sounds cool.

  • @EssexHouseMax
    @EssexHouseMax 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve done it again! This is exactly where I am on the WWE network..I’m literally watching KOTR 2001 RN as I type this!

  • @Antlion161
    @Antlion161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How about covering the original ECW Invasion to the WWF in 96-97? It's not talked about enough imo

  • @roodypoochrisw
    @roodypoochrisw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The Invasion was terrible, it was the beginning of the downfall of WWF

    • @TheSBleeder
      @TheSBleeder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Nah. Making YOU the WWE Champion ruined the company.

    • @roodypoochrisw
      @roodypoochrisw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Саша I liked 2003 that’s it, 2002 wasn’t that great, the NWO invasion was terrible, and they lost all their major baby faces by the end of the year. 2003 was great with Stone Cold and Rock returning

    • @TheKiid810
      @TheKiid810 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Саша best years? Maybe in wwe but damn sure not wwf lol

    • @NitroNEXT
      @NitroNEXT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@roodypoochrisw Triple H & HBK in 02 made that year memorable for me, as was Lesnar's push & the dynamic of the brand split, and introductions of rookies that actually went somewhere (Lesnar, Orton, Cena, Batista). I actually prefer much of it to 2001 which felt more like a stale version of the Attitude era for me. They really did drop the ball with the nWo 2.0 though, but Bischoff as GM was great.

    • @roodypoochrisw
      @roodypoochrisw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NitroNEXT Well yeah I agree it was much better than 2001, and I also really liked the HHH vs HBK fued, but other than that, it was pretty lame. Triple H and Chris Jericho had a terrible rivalry, Hogan became champ (I dont like the idea of super old superstars winning champions), and Rock and Austin were gone by the end of the year leaving us with Lesnar as the top star who wasnt that great in my personal opinion.

  • @kman215
    @kman215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Invasion storyline was just Vince making fun of wcw

    • @Macabre124
      @Macabre124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tHere's many ulterior motives behind that storyline lol...that's one of them. Thats why many jsut stayed at home and collected checks

  • @Keedi_
    @Keedi_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this video was great. Brought back so many memories. Shout out to this channel.

  • @RealBillyGarcia
    @RealBillyGarcia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vince wanted to strike while the iron was hot. If he waited a year after the WCW was bought then he would have ran the risk that the invasion angle would have never happened. There was a risk that no one would have cared at that point. So Vince moved forward with what he had. I thought that was obvious back in the day when it was happening. The biggest mistake IMO was how they booked DDP. He should have diamond cut WWF guys left and right.

    • @maxmeza4859
      @maxmeza4859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Youre probably the smartest person here...Not to mention that by 2002, Austin's health was done and Hollywood was calling for The Rock...so I always LMAO when ppl are like "they shouldve waited 2 years"

  • @_Bruzzi
    @_Bruzzi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video, I always found it odd that they had Booker T vs Bagwell for the Championship that night at the end of Raw. Also very weird to have Arn Anderson on commentary when I dont think he ever did commentary before. Seems like if they could have got Mike Tenay it would have worked or hell put Heyman back on commentary for WCW matches.

  • @FunkSwaggMusiK
    @FunkSwaggMusiK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hugh Morris and Lance Storm got a bigger reaction than all of the main roster today 🤣

    • @luisgomez8635
      @luisgomez8635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Given that there's no crowds in attendance during events these days, you're correct.

  • @nicolevarnam2290
    @nicolevarnam2290 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell Yea! Thanks So Much for Another Awesome Video! Can't wait for Part 2👊🙂🤘

  • @stevengurney5826
    @stevengurney5826 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. And very timely, was just thinking about this angle this past week.

  • @taylormademyself89
    @taylormademyself89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Sting vs taker and Austin vs goldberg questions we still ask lol

  • @teddunleavy4347
    @teddunleavy4347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great job as always, Bios. The completely botched Invasion angle was the start of my decline in interest in wrestling. After Katie Vick and Muhammad Hassan, I was just about done. Thanks for helping me relive the good days with your excellent videos.

  • @Hyde_Hill
    @Hyde_Hill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As part of the acquisition McMahon could have taken dates of those that where on AOL Time Warner contracts, without paying the full wage. Even at a 10 percent wage AOL would come out on top as they had to pay anyway and did not use them. Very common practice in European Football.

  • @TheMrAesthetic
    @TheMrAesthetic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk how I haven't found your channel before now. Excited to see your videos!

  • @christopherray6370
    @christopherray6370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Wish Sting was apart of this angle. Even wish Bret Hart would have been forced to have came back to WWF.

    • @Dr._P._Enis
      @Dr._P._Enis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Bret Harts Career was over at this time, kiddy

  • @agjptagjpta
    @agjptagjpta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The real WCW died in March 2001😭😭😭

  • @Sphat90
    @Sphat90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff. One thing not mentioned is that a number of the former WCW midcarders that didn't make it to WWF ended up in the developmental territory HWA (which was one of WCW's assets when bought out). A few matches from it are on TH-cam. Also, a few ex-WCW people decided to go to TNA when it started, some came to the WWE relatively soon after and some took much longer (Sting of course flat out refused to come to WWE for years).

  • @alexbonwick1627
    @alexbonwick1627 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mate your my favourite provider of content of anything. I look more forward to these than anything Netflix has to offer. Brilliant mate

  • @darrylskylar8757
    @darrylskylar8757 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    McMahon’s ego is way too big not to put himself front and center in the Invasion storyline.

  • @The_General_Zubas
    @The_General_Zubas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Got this one in before Wrestling with Wregret.
    kudos!

    • @Venemofthe888
      @Venemofthe888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Didn't he already do a invasion video years ago

    • @double0n9na80
      @double0n9na80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep the z man has already covered the invasion

    • @jaquandavis8829
      @jaquandavis8829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrestling with Wregret actually covered the invasion like 5 or 6 years ago 😂😂😂

  • @nehemiahpouncey3607
    @nehemiahpouncey3607 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never forget the woman yelling
    Where's sting?
    You won't get sting until 2015
    Lady😂

  • @emilkoch4098
    @emilkoch4098 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video. The only thing you left out was Austin saving team WWF that night. You glossed over it like it was boring. It was exciting come on man from beginning to end in my opinion. That was a great ending to the show I thought. Austin doing a run-in and breaking up the brawl saving team wwf in the process that night in my opinion was the highlight of the entire storyline/angle. Beginning in the parking lot and ending in the arena. The pop that he got was unbelievable. That segment always gets my adrenaline flowing. I've often played that segment on here on my phone at the beginning of my 2 hour workouts at the gym, and sometimes towards the end of my distance running to give me a boost when I'm dead tired. Trying to get ready for the Chicago Marathon, it's not canceled as far as I know. I never get tired of playing that particular segment because of the rush it gives me during my training. I can't explain it.

  • @imogenaris1697
    @imogenaris1697 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The McMahon family ego was unparalleled here. The only time you'll ever see Paul Heyman & Steph holding hands. That shot of Booker T pausing at the entrance- awesome. The Invasion angle was a tough one. Probably the most intense dog eat dog world locker room vibe in the company's history. Vince wasn't going to buy his rival & just let his new investment of young or any talent just sit idle. Not every WWF fan knew the wrestlers who Vince eventually made into stars when he bought them from his rival territories in the 80's either, but the 2000's were a completely different time. Haven't seen the Invasion PPV yet, but I think they did the best they could with what they had at the time. Giving credit to another youtube wrestling fan, Raven would have been the best choice for the stalker storyline. They buried DDP. $ circumstances prevented this angle from being the best storyline in wrestling history, but you can't blame the major superstars from making their top money either.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      alot of people didnt understand paul heyman's "vince mcmahon sr" shoot promo on vince was his legit feelings....people dont bring this up but vince sr made it very clear to vince jr to not undercut other territories /promotions and to "share the pie" so to speak once vince sr died, vince jr did just that and the wwf became a household name,
      so this notion that vince all of a sudden became this way in 1995 with vader and in 2001 in wcw, is wrong, hes always under cut other promotions and territories and would job out any talent from another wrestling promotion especially if they were big there (examples dusty rhodes but he got over with his gimmick with sapphire, junk yard dog but he still got over, and koko b ware , yea hes a hall of famer but he was a big draw in the mid south conference wrestling promotion )
      i think people bring up vader because vince in the 80s even when he tried the guys i mentioned , they were still getting loud pops and made vince money so he didnt fully bury them... vader didnt have the pull them other talents had in the wwf

  • @renecastillo5918
    @renecastillo5918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    11 year old me begging my dad to throw my bed time out for this

  • @donjuanmckenzie4897
    @donjuanmckenzie4897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something that a lot of people don’t consider is that creative/Vince want to ruin certain peoples careers. And then they say “it’s business:”

  • @Methazar
    @Methazar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As always a class video, thank you 👍🏻