The Biggest Flaw on Every RMC Coaster in the USA
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Steel Vengeance’s Flaw: The fact that the bumper car mode isn’t always on and only a select few have gotten to experience that.
Opening day mishaps
I think they removed that mode and gave it to Shivering Timbers at MA
@@Fazcoasters Yeah they’ve been going crazy on giving rides different modes lately! I heard they also gave El Toro a bobsled mode!
what Is a bumper car mode?
And Skyrush got E-stopped boomerang mode on the lift hill.
Dude, squere wheels are defenetly better than triangles, that would be even nastier bumps!
I agree. The term I've heard is "riding on stop signs" - which would be octagons. Which is at least plausible if very uncomfortable.
Hahaha I thought the same thing, more sides the smoother it gets. Triangles are the least amount of sides you can have on a object.
You could do a 50-sided wheel.
@@Paranimal86 Challenge accepted, 2-dimensional wheels incoming.
line wheels
"This is a coaster channel: There's ALWAYS something to complain about. This is why everyone hates us".
Spoken like a poet!
First half of the video: legit complaints
Second half of the video: Chris being an Enthusiast
HIS NAME IS CHRIS?!?!?!
@@RackBrissell63 ummmm yeah lol
Not having one at Carowinds, that’s the biggest flaw
LOL
or canada’s wonderland 😒
Fr
or Thorpe Park
Or legit any big park that doesn’t have one. Except La Ronde, god forbid anything good goes to La Ronde
The only flaw I can think of with Steel Vengeance is it not being at my home park, though I would love to see them try and fit it in.
what’s your home park?
@@weirdbeetworld4914 Blackpool Pleasure Beach
@@katashworth41 oh sick i’ve never been to the uk
@@weirdbeetworld4914 it’s not going to be for much longer, but then it’s going to be Thorpe Park. So I’m swapping one UKs tallest coaster for another lol.
Lucky me. I live like 30 minutes away from CP
Flaw with Steel Vengeance:
It’s too good. It tops everyone’s coasters lists and just makes videos predictable.
It's still going to be number one on many people's lists, even after Iron Gwazi opens. Steel Vengeance has had plenty of time to cement it's status as number one and that reputation will keep it there. Iron Gwazi will be known as it's little brother who threw a temper tantrum and waited forever to open. LOL
Mehhh... floater airtime. It's still a dang good ride, but I think there are so many coasters out there that easily could top SV (eejanaika and dinoconda, hakugei, zadra, kondaa). I even prefer skyrush, as absurd as that may sound
@@NRGFLOGaming ha ha amen
@@SkyrushFanboy skyrush hurts way too much and SV has extreme airtime
@@SkyrushFanboy idk what steel vengeance you rode and got floater on because i get abused by the airtime on that thing
I would say Steel Vengeance's biggest flaw is the first drop. It's tall, and it's vertical, but it starts to lose slope like a third of the way down. Steel Vengeance is the best coaster I've been on, and that's a testament to how good the layout is, because the drop hasn't done it for me so far. Imagine if it went down into a tunnel like Raging Bull and shot back up to the top hat.
Also, the back row on Twisted Colossus is stronger over the lift hill than the back row on Steel Vengeance. Not sure why that is, but on Twisted Colossus, it feels like you're getting ripped over the top in the back.
I think Steel Vengeance is awesome name, especially considering other RMCs. They easily could have just gone with "Iron Streak".
What if you make a horror video about scary coaster themes 🤔
SV first drop in row 12 last car is no joke you really feel it back there SV literally might be the best ever built that ride is so intense SV is way better then IS name
I think the drop on Steel Vengeance is better than you say personally. Also, ngl I prefer the name Iron Streak to Steel Vengeance.
Steel vengeance gave me a rash for because so much airtime
RMC drops seem to do that often to limit positive g forces in the valleys, which don't do wooden structures any good. That's one reason RMC tends to have weaker positive g's on their layouts, and also I believe to help make them more re-ridable.
Steel Vengeance Flaw: You may go deaf on the lift hill.
I don’t care what anyone says, this is the worst flaw of this coaster
entering into the arena, passing under superman escape from krypton when it launches.
@@dougbeechey9161 your eardrums may fall out of your ears at that point.
gplez91 correct its noisy
Or that you have to go through airport security to get on it.
Steel Vengeance Flaw: The noise level of the lift hill 😂
Wicked Cyclone is running really well this year, no pacing issues with that last half lap and a ton of ejector
Highly agree! Been realllly digging the 6th and 7th rows for air time. Try to get on at least a few times a month!
Just rode her the other day and she is screaming thru that layout with ejector into brake run
RMC has been improving a lot with new big thrills! I hope they still continue them by the next decade! 👍👍👍
Another flaw of steel vengeance is u can’t have your phone in line
The biggest flaw in RMC’s are the large queue lines😔
Honestly
Iron rattler line was 10 minute for me no flash pass
Wicked cyclone’s actually isn’t that big, there’s only 1 switchback
I waited 20 minutes for steel vengeance once no fast lane
@@micurides I’ve gotten 0 minutes. My family and my friend all ran there at the start of the day and got the first ride
3:47 a guys hat flies away in the wind LOL
3:46 Shoutouts to the person that lost their hat on Joker
"Gumming you.....like a toothless old lady" - this is why I love your channel, your sense of humor comes through with your roller coaster love! (I almost spit my drink out!)
I know, I like that he would use an analogy that I can relate to.
Biggest flaw on Steel Vengeance: Lacking airtime
Biggest flaw on the beast: too short
Biggest flaw on I305: forceless
Biggest flaw on formula rossa: Too Slow
Biggest flaw on Do-Dodonpa: weak launch
Biggest Flaw on Scream: Too Much Theming.
Steel Vengeance’s biggest flaw is that it ends.
Every RMC's biggest flaw: Terrible claustrophobic restraints that stop any airtime for us tall folks
100% agree. I can understand some of the pacing problems like the quarry crawl, and the 3rd lap on WC but they are still more forceful than 75% of any other coasters best element. I’m 6’2 so the restraints probably bother me a little more than someone that’s of an average height.
I really don’t understand the calf restraints
@@jrlaps521 Prevents small little kids from getting out.
@@supremefan makes sense I guess. I wish it was like some B&M trains where they accommodate bigger people, and instead they don’t have the shin guards for us taller people
@@jrlaps521 I agree they need better designed trains... they need the ones Intamin put on Velecicoaster
The obnoxious decibel level of the lift hill while waiting in line is my flaw for Steel Vengeance. Otherwise, flawless
by the time Iron Gwazi opens it won't be the tallest, fastest, or steepest RMC hybrid 😭😭😂
Imagine if Fun Spot Atlanta takes all those records 😳😳😳
fun spot atlanta will probably beat it lol🤣🤣🤣
It’ll still be better though. Iron Gwazi just doesn’t have the length to compete
My nitpick with steel vengeance is the no stuff in your pockets rule
SV is a relentless coaster...and an architectural engineering awesomeness to watch
RMC’S I’ve ridden:
Railblazer: over the shoulder restraints and it’s so short
Joker: Back and front are the only good rows all the rest are not very good. The elements aren’t the best either
twisted colossus: almost perfect but it never Duels when I ride
Twisted colossus dueling isn’t RMC fault
@@wrestlingandamusementparkl7789 still a fault in the ride though
OP: "I've ridden only 3 RMCs"
also OP: "Joker is the WORST RMC"
spot the mistake
@@TripleTSingt op should’ve said joker is the worst rmc op has ridden
You should try riding wicked cyclone in the rain, it was literally the best ride I’ve had on it because it’s way faster than usual
The flaw with Steel Vengeance was the reliability and maintenance issues. The first year it was down a lot like Lightning Rod, and they were constantly replacing and fixing the supports for it, which is why Cedar Fair has no other RMC projects in the works...
Steel Vengeance has plenty of flaws:
Ride itself:
The first speed hill does nothing
The hard left into the midcourse requires defensive riding (holding on / preparing yourself).
The final run of bunny hills requires defensive riding (holding on / getting the lapbar right for the whole ride, something)
Experience:
Besides that it has operational issues limiting it to 2 trains and horrifically slow dispatches (I don't think these have been resolved?), and has had structural issues (which I think were mostly resolved after the 2018 season). It's basically impossible to ride it without waiting 30+ minutes even with fast lane+. The locker policy was a stupid cash-grab, especially when Mean Streak used to have station bins AND it caused people to have to wait 3+ hours without their phones...
But it's biggest flaw is probably that it's the main contributor to the strained the relationship between RMC and Cedar Fair that hasn't produced any additional rides. While Cedar Fair only has a few decent conversion candidates hanging around, they definitely have several parks that could benefit from raptors (standard/mirrored or custom) - it's shame we haven't gotten to see that come to fruition.
That said it's still my #2 overall, it's just not the "flawless" hype-fest people seem to heap on it.
To me RMC’s biggest flaw, in general, is the lack of positive g’s on their rides. I like a good mix of intensity on both ends of the spectrum; however, I understand the decision to not include high positive g-force because it may be really bad for the wooden structure.
Alan Schilke has also said he's not a fan of positive G-s on wooden/hybrid coasters, which is why RMC coasters lacks positive G' filled elements, such as a vertical loop or helixes.
I heard Zadra is really intense
A friend once told me that compared the average gci to rmc and where rmc was all but moments and big shifts of forces gci made constant small force chabges that didnt feel big but gave a more out of control feel, wich is interesting
Agree
I also feel like stronger positive g’s are a turn off for the general public. Those are the coasters that cause grey outs and headaches, so they get bad reputations.
“That’s why everyone hates us”.
If only Skynet was this chill when it became self-aware
Twisted Cyclone in 2019 at Six Flags Over Georgia, other than it being a quick ride, it was very intense, thought it was great, luckily my granddaughter and I road it back-to-back. no line to wait, it open up after being shut down for rain.
Love that ride so much, it’s at my home park too-
Steel vengeance hurts my thighs from airtime when riding over and over again
I love rolling so slow through that last inversion on Wicked Cyclone and the last few off axis hills still feel ridiculous no matter the speed.
3:48 the sunglasses coming off😂😂 (or visor I can’t tell)
3:48 the hat that flew off lol
I’d say that Vengeance’s big flaw is that it’s a magnet for packets of Hot Sauce and flying seat backings
Steel Vengeance’s flaw is that every second of airtime just feels forced and painful. It doesn’t help they they’re stapling with the already painful RMC lap bars
Airtime is a force….yes. Probably why it feels…forced?
3:48 HAHAHHAHAH that guy lost his hat in the back row, I feel that
3:45 that guys hat flew off😂
I definitely agree that outlaw run's biggest flaw is the roughness. I rode it first in the back row and the forces were amazing, but it was super rough. My second and third rides were in the second to back row, and the forces were just as good but it was nowhere near as rough. My new #3 behind Maverick and Steel Vengeance (i've only ridden the coasters at CP, KI, SDC)
3:47 watch yo hat bro WATCH YO HAT
I agree with you on the Raptor restraints. The lap bar is all that's needed, plus it's very easy to whack body parts on them.
3:47 lol at the person in the last row that lost their hat thing.
Untamed is right up there with Steve for me in basically having a perfect layout
There should be an RMC raptor with at least 58 seconds of ride time and lap bars instead of vest restraints. It would be awesome to see all 3 RMC models in the same amusement park.
Great vid Chris. Every time I go to SDC, I hear everyone praising Outlaw Run as one of the best RMCs in the world, and I still dont understand why. IMO its an unbearably rough ride that has airtime but a rough experience and bad restrains.
I just got back from Cedar Point and the mid course slowed you down on Steel Vengeance all three days I was there. Don’t know if it’s a summer thing or what.
I've only ridden twisted cyclone, and just rode lightning rod for the first time this past Monday, and I stay 5 minutes from Fun Spot ATL, ready for the new RMC
Man, slick transition into the name discussion with "from the archives."
0:16 to 0:21, truest statement ever made on any coaster channel, ever. Your channel and El Toro Ryan are the only two I can tolerate and actually enjoy because you two actually "get it" and have great content. I am also 100% in agreement with you on Storm Chaser, I absolutely Love that ride and my only single complaint at all is its a little on the short side, but as you said Im stretching and reaching to even justify that. I was very fortunate to have my first experiences on it Labor Day of 2020 when the park was very lightly populated, and marathoned it for an hour+, and it was one of my best park experiences.
Great vid and maybe SF can increase the lift speed on Iron Rattler so it has some extra speed to start instead of slowing the lift down as the train crests.
"this is why everyone hates us" ...oh no, they have become self aware!
Now cue the downfall of civilization!
Hurler:Twisted Timbers is my home RMC! So glad I have had the chance to ride both! :)
Loved the throwback at your previous countdown
Steel Vengeance flaw: *Loudest lift hill in existence*
I knew that TC (home park RMC) would be short. There are just so much RMC’s that are short out there!
Steel Vengeance was a little rough for me in the turn after the stall, before the brake run. That pop of airtime and the lateral force from turning left real quick made me hit the side of the seat and bruise my ribs 😫🙃 I'm very tall and I might have been positioned a bit weird tho so 😅
I have the same problem.
Another complaint, the head choppers make it almost unenjoyable to me. Ik that I won't hit it but it's still odd to me.
Steel Vengeance's biggest flaw is undoubtably the phone policy
One Steel Vengeance flaw: The mid course actually slows down the train...
Zadra’s biggest flaw: It opened ahead of schedule even though it partially collapsed. 😂
Converisons in a nutshell.
haha
3:47 RIP to the guy in the back’s visor
The one thing I dislike about SV is the sudden jolt right as the train enters the mid course brake run. Felt painful to me on all my rides, but just that bit
For me the flaw with Steel Vengeance is the lack of a stand out element. The overbank was good but I really didn't feel like there was a single element on Steel Vengeance that was super unique. Iron Rattler has it's twisted drop with a headchopper and dive off the wall, Lightning Rod has the quad down...Steel Vengeance has Speed...and Height...and Length. Not that it's bad. Still a top 10 coaster for me but it didn't blow me away or live up to expectations.
it doesn't have a standout element because they're practically all standout elements lol
@@jameslitwin5635 AGREED 1000% LOL
@@jameslitwin5635 I disagree. The straight drop is boring and then it goes into a speed hill that doesn't provide any airtime. It has good moments but nothing unique. It feels like the generic version of an RMC coaster. They went after all of the records but they didn't add anything unique that you can't get on another RMC.
Jersey Devil is getting reprogrammed to fix the Mid-Course Run stopping the train completing, and Jersey devil fixed them the shoulder straps have give to it
I'm a new enthusiast that moved from So California to Iowa. Just before I moved I got a chance to ride Twisted Colossus my one and only RMC. (So far) but that one coaster made me an RMC fan. Thanks for all the great content!
The leg bar bothers me on Steel Vengeance. That’s THE ONLY thing.
3:47 Someone looses their hat!!!
I agree Steel Vengeance is a dumb name, but for me, the trims on the midcourse did slow the ride down, making the second half less intense than I was anticipating. It didn't ruin it because there were some awesome airtime moments and headchoppers mixed in, but that's how it ran for me in 2019. Otherwise SV is basically flawless
Here, I’m going to update this for ArieForce One:
There are two flaws on this ride. Firstly the Quad down hurts a lot for your thighs. Provides good air though and you can mitigate it. However I think the bigger flaw is the brake run. It stops you at a super fast deceleration rate and while you can brace for it, it still delivers quite the big sucker punch
Anyway the ride is fantastic my #1 so far
My flaw with Steel Vengence is the ejector is a little too painful
3:46 the hat falling 😭
A new airtime thrills video is exactly what I love to see on a Friday afternoon!
Will totally have to ride Outlaw Run some more, but definitely agree with the roughness being the flaw.
I think it's a known fact that all coaster channels are hated, but the fact that this guy admits it and embraces it is hilarious
"The biggest flaw with Steel Vengeance is those bunny hills at the end.
I remember the first year it opened literally every person on every ride would count the bunny hills as we went over them. ONE!, TWO!!, THREE!!! FOUR!!!!FIVE!!!!! Annoying as hell!
"Too much airtime" Me no comprehend.
Funnily enough, I'm going to Great Adventure today. Never rode a single rail coaster before, so I'm excited.
SFoT is my home park and when Texas Giant was redone it was absolutely incredible. But now that I see all of the amazing RMC overlays they’ve done since, I really wish they would come back to Texas Giant and spruce it up. I’m super jealous of these newer RMC’s
Btw the reason why your shoulders dig into the strap on railblazer is because you are taller, so the restraint digs into your shoulders more. I went on railblazer as my first RMC, and I found the shoulder restraint extremely comfy. Love ur yt channel tho. Keep it up!
Steel Vengeance's only flaw is the painful excuse they call the restraints. Unfortunately, it kills the ride experience for me.
This video is a masterpiece, Chris. The humor is fantastic. Love it!
I rode Wicked Cyclone about 3 weeks ago, and it was absolutely hauling through its third lap.
Steel Vengeance's flaw is the snappy turn right before the mid-course brake run. It's always felt a little too sharp for a ride with such smooth elements
My issue with twisted timbers and storm chaser is that the twisted airtime just kind of jerks you around in a kind of uncomfortable way
I might as well inform you about Jersey Devil.
Bear in mind my rides were in the early afternoon in a moderately rainy day, about 70-75 degrees.
To me, the biggest flaw about Jersey Devil is the tameness of the ride (it’s barely top 3 in the park imo), especially after the midcourse. Flojecter airtime at best after the first drop (which is amazing in the back, not better than toro’s but still crazy), lack of positive g’s, lack of good whip aside from the entrance into the dive loop (only in the front), and the midcourse absolutely killing the speed of the ride. The only good element after the midcourse is the speed hill, which delivers some decent floater.
Also the ride’s currently closed right now because Six Flags. Rumor is they’re fixing the computer system on the midcourse, but I can’t confirm anything.
The dude in back lost his hat 😂💀 3:45
3:47 poor guy lost his hat
Yeah, Lightning Rod was running pretty good when I was at Dollywood, and it was VERY smooth.
With wicked cyclone the third lap I learned is always amazing in, or right after rain, the train flies right through then
Regarding Steel Vengeance- I hate the restraints. They way the lock your legs in is uncomfortable.
Not having one at magic mountain atm is the biggest flaw of them all, but no fr lol six flags magic mountain is currently working on their new rmc raptor, set to open in 2022
Omg your here as well
I feel you on the Twisted Colossus lift hill, but I think it's tied together with the racing point. The biggest flaw for me was not building a double station that could reliably dispatch a train every 60-70 seconds. It was never a realistic goal for SFMM to get that kind of dispatch time from one station. And consistent double races aren't even physically possible without running 4 trains.
Steel Vengeance's biggest flaw was the locker system, but that's now fixed so yeah probably go with the name haha
you got lucky on steel vengeance, i rode it twice around 2 weeks ago, the trim brakes slammed on the train both times
The biggest flaw on Steel Vengeance is reridability. If you ride it several times, some marks will start to appear, espicially on your thighs.
I’m not gonna get to ride my first RMC until next month. As someone who values airtime above all else, this makes me sad. But being a dad of young kids means I had to take a break from most coasters until they got older. That said, Twisted Timbers next month and I’m trying to plan multiple trips to hit others with a much needed visit to OH on my list. So my biggest flaw for these and all coasters really is getting to them!
That part where you said twisted Timbers biggest flaw was the shimmy caught me off guard
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The only flaw I would give Steel Vengeance is the small bit of rough lateral throwing you into the person next to you as you pop into the mid course break run. Not because laterals aren’t fun in their own way, but because it seems to break character for RMC which normally has high quality banking.
It’s so hard to even call that a flaw though.
“joker was just gumming you like a toothless old lady” HAHAHAHAHAHAH
It took all the RMC's ever built to finally come up with the masterpiece which is Steel Vengeance.