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Very nice, informative, and entertaining video. I love the 'whimsical' editing and all the visual gags. By the way, you could give One Page Rules' Grimdark Future Firefight a try, all the rules are easily accesible and it's a pretty fun game (Just make sure to start with the beginner guide from the website rather than the core rules, the former contain the full rules while the latter serves as a reference point). It's a great alternative to Kill Team and very fun in it's own right (Emphasis on alternative, not replacement. They can both coexist imo.)
I can absolutely relate to the process of trying to learn Killteam rules, it's such a shame it's all so messy and muddled when games like Warcry are an absolute breeze to get started with! Great work Nick, always impressed by the quality of your videos and this is no exception.
If you struggle a little bit with the rules of the Kill Team, maybe you would like to try “Grimdark Future Firefight”? The rules are completely free and you can use the minis, you already have. The rules are super easy and the game is soooo fast and smooth. Greetings
I am also learning Kill Team right now and I can't even number the amount of times I've disgustedly asked "WHY??" while trying to sort through the rules. The absolutely inane choices for shapesmeasurements is definitely the "canary in the coal mine" of how obtuse things get. Printer looks dope. My first reaction to closed systems is always writing them off because I instinctively want that control. I thought about it more, though, and in this space, I don't really want that control. I want a 3d printer to be as simple to use as this old laserjet printer behind me. I don't want to fiddle and tweak and troubleshoot. I want prints to just work as expected. I'm only a "seasonal" hobbier through the dark winter months when outdoor activities are unpleasant, so I'll never be able to justify the price of this set, but if I were, I'd absolutely spring for this unit.
Yeah I *think* GW is on a kick where they have to make every single one of their games different and apply no crossover. Killteam has the 'shapes as measurement' thing, Horus Heresy is closer to 7th edition Wh40k, Old World is basically 8th Edition Warhammer, Age of Sigmar runs on it's own thing, Warhammer 40k 10th edition runs on its own thing. There are baseline systems that run throughout (Weapon skill, Ballistics Skill etc.) but all of them do something funky. I think this comes about because they want you to have things for each of the games, so you can't take your Kill team and just jump straight into a game of 40k, you've got to learn a completely new ruleset with its own keywords etc. so thus you've got to buy the 40k rulebook etc. The entire reason they aren't supporting Legacy factions in Old World is because they don't want people being able to play both with a single army and its the same reason they pulled all the Horus Heresy stuff from Space Marines and moved it into the 'not legal in tournaments' Legends bin, they don't want you playing Horus Heresy and 40k with the same army at official events.
Great video, Nick! I recently picked up a super cheap set of chisels from Harbor Freight to help remove prints from my printer bed. It didn't seem difficult for you on the HeyGears, but the extremely thin blade and sturdy shaft (blimey) make it even easier and is a great $6 tool upgrade.
Awesome video as always! I'm in the market for a new printer so this came at a good time! Maybe I'll get sent one one day 😅 And I knoooww how tedious that dice segment was to mask, but it turned out really great!
Just found your channel bro great videos ! Love waehammer more into the lore and books ,read like just under 200 books at this point and started a custodies and Dark Angel army . Can’t wait to see more of your work brother .
oh yeah! that plate with 22 multi-component miniatures... Spectacular! Don't you remember how long it took to print them? I am seriously thinking about purchasing this machine.
@@nothingview somewhere in the 6-8 hr range, I almost exclusively let things print overnight so I'm not in the same room. Highly recommend getting a tent / exhaust fan if you move forward with the purchase!
While kill team is complicated it tries to offer you a lot more strategic options compared to other skirmish games. Once you get used to it you may appreciate some of the aspects of it. you didn't even mention the line of sight rules in this video which the community has agreed is probably the most complicated part.
I'm sure I'll get the hang of it eventually! Really love the concept of the game, just didn't expect that level of complexity - especially compared to Warcry
Seems like a good printing system... and anything that reduces set-up time and trouble-shooting has to be a bonus, unless you absolutely need to poke around and control everything. Way out of my price range though. Makes me wonder if I'll ever even get started 3D printing hobby parts, or whether my manual scratch and bash skills will always be my first and only option.
Easiest Killteam would have been Custodes, with 2 squads and 2 custodes model per squad (yes you can have 2 custodes and 5 sisters of silence or 10 sisters but it is by far the most economical way to get into kill team).
My concern with proprietary systems such as this comes down to resin. You are stuck with whatever resin the manufacturer produces and locked into whatever price point and quality they decide, unless you try reusing their bottle with a different manufacturer resin.
As for why skirmish games are more complex than the full wargame. GWs Skirmish games have ALWAYS been more complex than the full wargame because of the lower number of miniatures, Necromunda was always more complex than regular 40k. In fact Skirmish games in general seem to be more complex.
The Necromunda released in the 90s was far easier and less complex then 40K during that same period. I have been told that when GW re-released Necromunda made it far more complex and slower to play. If so that is a shame, as the original Necromunda was a fun game to play
Hi Mate, awesome video as always from you! Please be extra careful with the HeyGears resin cause this resin is super toxic. especially when i saw you opening and handling your printer and ur prints without mask i couldnt believed it. i have now a 3 month old boy and scince a year i rarely touch my printer and go in the basement where its located. If i handled the printer i go imedietly shower after cause particles of the resins stick on your skin. thats why some ppl get skin problems when handling with resin. small doses of toxic stuff are already very ahrmful for baby brains. thats why i am taking a big step back from the Ultra Craft reflex cause of there even more toxic resins. This guy however has succeslful prints with other companies resins in the machine. th-cam.com/video/oMVYv7HqxR8/w-d-xo.html&t= maybe u could make a video about it and if it really works well... all the best :)
@@TryChillBalloo hey I appreciate the comment! Since this video I have purchased an enclosure that vents outside whenever there is resin in the printer, which hopefully helps. What makes this resin more toxic than other companies' resins?
@@CCMinis i dont know exactly but i saw several comments about this under other videos about the ultra craft reflex. they say also that the smell is much worse than other resins which i cant affirm because i never used pap10 or parpt10.
@@TryChillBalloo all resin is toxic, this stuff for sure and others as well - even the water curable stuff. I was admittedly reckless in this video and have since learned to handle the material at least slightly better. I don't think the HeyGears resin is more or less toxic than any other resin on the market - but to be fair I don't know if anyone has actually tested these things. Either way, respect all resins. The smell isn't any worse then the other resins I've used, but I don't think that has any bearing on how bad the stuff is for you.
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Printer with proprietary resin, game with proprietary measuring system, the dystopian future of tabletop gaming is NOW. Jokes aside, geat video!
You will own nothing, not even a tape measurer, and you will be happy
At least we're not at the point where we're buying licenses for models and rules and can have them taken away at any time aka video games.
@@paytreonsuhks like myminifactory, cults, or any other STL repository? Sorry, we're there already
Very nice, informative, and entertaining video. I love the 'whimsical' editing and all the visual gags.
By the way, you could give One Page Rules' Grimdark Future Firefight a try, all the rules are easily accesible and it's a pretty fun game (Just make sure to start with the beginner guide from the website rather than the core rules, the former contain the full rules while the latter serves as a reference point). It's a great alternative to Kill Team and very fun in it's own right (Emphasis on alternative, not replacement. They can both coexist imo.)
I can absolutely relate to the process of trying to learn Killteam rules, it's such a shame it's all so messy and muddled when games like Warcry are an absolute breeze to get started with! Great work Nick, always impressed by the quality of your videos and this is no exception.
I know what you mean, I just wanted something easy to pick up and after flicking through the booklet in the starter set I sold it 😂
If you struggle a little bit with the rules of the Kill Team, maybe you would like to try “Grimdark Future Firefight”? The rules are completely free and you can use the minis, you already have. The rules are super easy and the game is soooo fast and smooth. Greetings
Kill Team is incredibly easy. Y'all are making mountains out of molehills.
That shot of you superimposed on the dice tray was a pretty cool idea
So happy to see you post - peerless crafting and production as usual, Gouache Boss
Thanks TwinSteel - hope you've been well!
@@CCMinis doing well currently - hope you and yours are happy and healthy
I am also learning Kill Team right now and I can't even number the amount of times I've disgustedly asked "WHY??" while trying to sort through the rules. The absolutely inane choices for shapesmeasurements is definitely the "canary in the coal mine" of how obtuse things get.
Printer looks dope. My first reaction to closed systems is always writing them off because I instinctively want that control. I thought about it more, though, and in this space, I don't really want that control. I want a 3d printer to be as simple to use as this old laserjet printer behind me. I don't want to fiddle and tweak and troubleshoot. I want prints to just work as expected. I'm only a "seasonal" hobbier through the dark winter months when outdoor activities are unpleasant, so I'll never be able to justify the price of this set, but if I were, I'd absolutely spring for this unit.
Yeah I *think* GW is on a kick where they have to make every single one of their games different and apply no crossover. Killteam has the 'shapes as measurement' thing, Horus Heresy is closer to 7th edition Wh40k, Old World is basically 8th Edition Warhammer, Age of Sigmar runs on it's own thing, Warhammer 40k 10th edition runs on its own thing. There are baseline systems that run throughout (Weapon skill, Ballistics Skill etc.) but all of them do something funky.
I think this comes about because they want you to have things for each of the games, so you can't take your Kill team and just jump straight into a game of 40k, you've got to learn a completely new ruleset with its own keywords etc. so thus you've got to buy the 40k rulebook etc. The entire reason they aren't supporting Legacy factions in Old World is because they don't want people being able to play both with a single army and its the same reason they pulled all the Horus Heresy stuff from Space Marines and moved it into the 'not legal in tournaments' Legends bin, they don't want you playing Horus Heresy and 40k with the same army at official events.
@@luketfer this context is pretty interesting, thanks for bringing me up to speed. Now instead of being confused and angry, I can just be angry. 😅
Great video, Nick! I recently picked up a super cheap set of chisels from Harbor Freight to help remove prints from my printer bed. It didn't seem difficult for you on the HeyGears, but the extremely thin blade and sturdy shaft (blimey) make it even easier and is a great $6 tool upgrade.
I'll have to check that out!
Awesome video as always! I'm in the market for a new printer so this came at a good time! Maybe I'll get sent one one day 😅
And I knoooww how tedious that dice segment was to mask, but it turned out really great!
Thanks Geordie!
Great review mate, you had to do the wash station dance as well haha it is hard not too 🤣.
Thanks Nate! And how could you not!!
Fantastic story telling style! Thanks as always / fun, fun, fun.
Just found your channel bro great videos ! Love waehammer more into the lore and books ,read like just under 200 books at this point and started a custodies and Dark Angel army . Can’t wait to see more of your work brother .
Lovin' the Desk shots!
Thanks!!
oh yeah! that plate with 22 multi-component miniatures... Spectacular! Don't you remember how long it took to print them? I am seriously thinking about purchasing this machine.
@@nothingview somewhere in the 6-8 hr range, I almost exclusively let things print overnight so I'm not in the same room. Highly recommend getting a tent / exhaust fan if you move forward with the purchase!
These 3D printers are getting crazy looks awesome!
I love your honesty Nick about the printer, Thanks
You know what I'm always looking forward to in a video of yours?
Where and how will Nick insert himself in the next scene :D
SO much to love here, great video
Thanks James!!
My brain broke as soon as you started talking about the dice lol. Looks like a decent printer, though.
Nice. I would bet the holes are for reducing adhesion to the fep
That's gotta be it
12:29 not gouche?! 😂
Aye sometimes you gotta roll in the oil
While kill team is complicated it tries to offer you a lot more strategic options compared to other skirmish games. Once you get used to it you may appreciate some of the aspects of it.
you didn't even mention the line of sight rules in this video which the community has agreed is probably the most complicated part.
I'm sure I'll get the hang of it eventually! Really love the concept of the game, just didn't expect that level of complexity - especially compared to Warcry
@@CCMinis warcry is fun, but really lacks depth. It's a great hangout and play game, but is not that great as a more competitive strategic game, imo.
The measuring system is so dumb but I'm going to learn Kill Team again since im fond of skirmish games like Warcry.
100% it'll be worth it but maaaaaaaan those measurements
@@CCMinis The measurements! They will haunt my nightmares!
If alcohol fumes are a problem for you...
Seems like a good printing system... and anything that reduces set-up time and trouble-shooting has to be a bonus, unless you absolutely need to poke around and control everything. Way out of my price range though. Makes me wonder if I'll ever even get started 3D printing hobby parts, or whether my manual scratch and bash skills will always be my first and only option.
Hi what is the printer like with it not having any air filters?
The resin it uses isn't the worst smelling, but I've recently put it in a grow tent that exhausts out of my window just in case
Easiest Killteam would have been Custodes, with 2 squads and 2 custodes model per squad (yes you can have 2 custodes and 5 sisters of silence or 10 sisters but it is by far the most economical way to get into kill team).
My concern with proprietary systems such as this comes down to resin. You are stuck with whatever resin the manufacturer produces and locked into whatever price point and quality they decide, unless you try reusing their bottle with a different manufacturer resin.
What is kill team?
The Warhammer 40k skirmish game
Wait till you get to line of sight and cover rules! I’ve tried to learn them, but my eyes just glaze over every time 😅
Where did you get the printing files thanks
Station Forge on Myminifactory
Thanks again😊
Great, now I need to buy a 3d printer
Oh boy have I got a recommendation for you
As for why skirmish games are more complex than the full wargame. GWs Skirmish games have ALWAYS been more complex than the full wargame because of the lower number of miniatures, Necromunda was always more complex than regular 40k. In fact Skirmish games in general seem to be more complex.
The Necromunda released in the 90s was far easier and less complex then 40K during that same period. I have been told that when GW re-released Necromunda made it far more complex and slower to play. If so that is a shame, as the original Necromunda was a fun game to play
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Hi Mate, awesome video as always from you!
Please be extra careful with the HeyGears resin cause this resin is super toxic. especially when i saw you opening and handling your printer and ur prints without mask i couldnt believed it.
i have now a 3 month old boy and scince a year i rarely touch my printer and go in the basement where its located. If i handled the printer i go imedietly shower after cause particles of the resins stick on your skin. thats why some ppl get skin problems when handling with resin. small doses of toxic stuff are already very ahrmful for baby brains.
thats why i am taking a big step back from the Ultra Craft reflex cause of there even more toxic resins.
This guy however has succeslful prints with other companies resins in the machine.
th-cam.com/video/oMVYv7HqxR8/w-d-xo.html&t=
maybe u could make a video about it and if it really works well...
all the best :)
@@TryChillBalloo hey I appreciate the comment! Since this video I have purchased an enclosure that vents outside whenever there is resin in the printer, which hopefully helps. What makes this resin more toxic than other companies' resins?
@@CCMinis i dont know exactly but i saw several comments about this under other videos about the ultra craft reflex. they say also that the smell is much worse than other resins which i cant affirm because i never used pap10 or parpt10.
@@TryChillBalloo all resin is toxic, this stuff for sure and others as well - even the water curable stuff. I was admittedly reckless in this video and have since learned to handle the material at least slightly better. I don't think the HeyGears resin is more or less toxic than any other resin on the market - but to be fair I don't know if anyone has actually tested these things. Either way, respect all resins. The smell isn't any worse then the other resins I've used, but I don't think that has any bearing on how bad the stuff is for you.
if its proprietary dont buy it let the product fail
no 3rd party slicers is a big fucking no from me. Anycubic tried that shit and their slicer is garbage