"Passage" with Camae Ayewa aka Moor Mother

We travelled to Durham, North Carolina for the 2017 edition of Moogfest - to not only see two performances of Camae Ayewa aka Moor Mother, we also hand the luck to each chicken and waffles with her and conduct an interview for our "Passage" series.
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[@WilliamHumphreys]

Love the music and everything you are doing. Thank you!!

[@dawidindor8370]

Love u Moor Mother...

[@Nubianette]

It took a Danish friend to introduce me to her music. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Zaacharia]

My mouth hurt watching her put hot sauce on her chicken (yeah, I am a mayonnaise American)

[@dovic86]

I don't agree very much with this interpretation of linear/Christian temporality, I think it lacks comprehension of what Christian eschaton was all about and of the link between the Christian message and history. The coming of Christ was meant as a promise of liberation that established a connection between the pact god had made with the Jewish people in the past and the judgment day, projected into the future, in which good people would have entered in the heavenly kingdom. In this regard present is always connected to past and future, because time is nothing but a movement towards one single goal, that is redemption. One may criticise this vision, but it has nothing to do with oppression in its original meaning. A seminal work in this field is "Christ and Time" by Oscar Cullmann, I'd suggest to read that. It's true nonetheless that there are - and there were in the past - many ways of experiencing time, most of them cyclical, and we should be aware of the different life possibilities that this variety gives access to, compared to what linear temporality has become in a secular modern society.

[@skyjuiceification]

STOP!

[@vleesvlieg]

no dont stop its important to let views like these be challenged and discussed. i havent read their book yet but from what i gathered from rasheedah's explanation i dont think they are critisizing a strictly christian perspective on linear time with a judgement day promising salvation for all the good people, but saying that viewing time in a linear way is more facilitative to oppression than a cyclical perspective and i think theres a lot to be said for that especially in a society thats increasingly moving away from traditional religion for guidance. when you take away the promise of equal judgement for all in the eyes of god, a very linear perspective can suggest people being condemned to their current fate; the poor will get poorer while the rich get richer, while a cyclical view sounds much more balanced? either way this is just my interpretation and i'd love to hear different thoughts

[@dovic86]

@@vleesvlieg Thanks for your comment. Personally, I don't think any idea of time can be deemed oppressive per se, its interpretation can. As for the linear view bringing more inequality than the cyclical one, I think it's more the other way around. Linearity suggests change and progression, whether there is a telos, a goal, at the end of it or not, whereas circularity is traditionally associated with repetition and sameness, hence immobility (in many different cultures, mostly ancient and/or agricultural ones; think of the cycle of the seasons). In modern times, circular time has been discussed by Nietzsche, who coined the theory of eternal return, and later on by Deleuze, according to whom the eternal return is nothing but the return of difference, but I should stop here because I don't know enough about their philosophy.

[@vleesvlieg]

@@dovic86 i had to think of nietzsche as well, though his concept of cyclical time as far as i understand it was largely unrelated to any kind of politics and served more as a motivator for people to take responsibility. "imagine you had to eternally live through these same choices you are making right now, if this idea is a scary one you should make them differently/be less passive/take more responsibility" im not sure if he actually believed in these time loops as a physical phenomenon, but this is roughly the message i got from it

[@mysticsushi]

K, next.