Van Rysel D500 Turbo Trainer, Decathlon.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.พ. 2023
- We take a look at the D500 direct drive turbo trainer from Van Rysel. Keep training when the weather is still pants outside, ride with others from around the world, from your lounge.
Will work with Zwift, Wahoo RGT, Onelap and other apps. How many times was ‘Rock Solid’ mentioned?
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The trainer comes with a quick release supplied but ‘no cassette’ you will need to purchase this. Our workshop staff can fit this for you. The spindown/firmware updates are now done on Onelap Utility app and can be downloaded from app stores.
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Van Rysel D500 Turbo Trainer, Fitting Thru Axle Adaptors
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Para os brasileiros que buscam informações sobre o D 500, que são escassas em nosso país.
Para ser sincero, não conhecia a marca Van Rysel (da Decathlon) e muito menos o seu rolo de treinamento, porém, após muitos meses de pesquisa em sites e canais estrangeiros, sobretudo europeus - onde a marca é mais conhecida - resolvi me aventurar.
Para a minha surpresa, as minhas impressões foram, até agora - 3 meses de uso - todas positivas. A minha maior dúvida era quanto à qualidade do equipamento e do material empregado, porém, posso afirmar que tudo é de excelente qualidade, aliás, muito superior à percepção que havia tido a partir das fotos e vídeos da internet.
O equipamento é bem pesado, muito bem construído, com plásticos e metais de ótima qualidade, sem folgas nos encaixes, passando a impressão de ser muito robusto e que perdurará por muitos anos.
A montagem do rolo, em si, é muito simples, não apenas pelo bom manual de instrução, mas também porque o aparelho vem acompanhado das principais ferramentas para a sua preparação.
É importante deixar claro, porém, que assim como os demais rolos concorrentes, será necessário adquirir um cassete - vendido em lojas de bicicleta ou em marketplaces - que seja compatível com a sua bicicleta, sem o qual não será possível utilizar o aparelho, o que, obviamente, representa um custo adicional que deve ser levado em consideração pelo consumidor.
Em relação ao funcionamento, após a montagem, basta plugar na tomada - vem acompanhado de adaptadores para praticamente todos os países - que a luz do bluethooth acenderá automaticamente informando que o rolo está apto a ser conectado. A conexão pode ser feita mediante o aplicativo “OneLap Fit”, que é sugerido pela marca, ou então poderá ser realizada por intermédio de outros aplicativos mais usuais do mercado, como o “Zwift”, que não é gratuito.
A conexão com o “Zwift”, por sinal, se dá de maneira muito rápida e consistente, sem percalços, valendo esclarecer, apenas, que o rolo não poderá ser conectado com dois aplicativos ao mesmo tempo, o que eu demorei para descobrir (rs). Então, se estiver conectado, por exemplo, ao “OneLap Fit”, é preciso desconectar para que o “Zwift” encontre o sinal do rolo e permita a sua conexão.
A sincronização com o “Zwift” é precisa e não parece existir qualquer tipo de delay (atraso) na comunicação entre o rolo e o aplicativo. Também não enfrentei casos de desconexão súbita, como alguns usuários relatam em relação a outras marcas concorrentes. Ou seja, até a presente data, o equipamento tem passado a percepção de ser bastante confiável.
A potência (1500 w) e a inclinação (12%) são mais do que suficientes para praticamente todos os ciclistas, a não ser que você seja profissional (ou ache que seja) e queira subir montanhas homéricas.
Além disso, a rolagem é muito silenciosa, sendo que os sons emitidos são, basicamente, os da troca de marchas da própria bicicleta e o da desaceleração - semelhante ao ruído de um freehub - nos momentos em que para de pedalar.
Diante deste contexto, considero o rolo D500 da Van Rysel a melhor relação custo benefício do mercado (brasileiro), já que entrega um produto de ótima qualidade por um preço menor que o ofertado pela concorrência.
Além disso, um dos pontos que considerei essencial na minha avaliação foi o quesito garantia/manutenção, pois a maior parte dos rolos são importados de maneira direta ou através de empresas que não possuem estrutura adequada para auxiliar o consumidor quando o produto apresenta problemas. Minha premissa, portanto, foi de que se tiver alguma adversidade durante o prazo de garantia de 2 anos, terei, ao menos, o suporte de uma loja de grande porte sediada no Brasil.
Por fim, faço duas recomendações que julgo importantíssimas.
A primeira é, leve o rolo até a loja da Decathlon mais próxima da sua casa ou até o seu mecânico de confiança para realizar a instalação do cassete, pois é algo que depende de uma ferramenta especial (chave de cassete). Além disso, tais profissionais poderão lhe auxiliar no ajuste adequado da bicicleta ao rolo, inclusive para evitar uma montagem inadequada que possa comprometer o equipamento e o quadro da bicicleta. No meu caso, por exemplo, a bicicleta não encaixava no rolo em razão de uma diferença de 0,3 mm entre o encaixe da roda e os adaptadores fornecidos, sendo que a solução encontrada foi lixar o adaptador que apresentava um erro milimétrico de usinagem.
A segunda é, se possível, faça um bike fit, pois é fácil ficar demasiadamente animado e começar a realizar treinos com uma carga e volume muito acima do que você está acostumado, tendo em vista que não precisará se preocupar em como vai voltar para casa depois que as suas energias se esgotarem (rs). Esse aumento abrupto de carga e intensidade, sem uma avaliação adequada da sua posição na bicicleta, poderá ser uma fonte futura de lesões. Então invista em um bike fit para se divertir com mais segurança, seja no seu pedal de rua ou no rolo.
Espero ter ajudado!
Abraços a todos
It looks so good～hope can get it soon～😍
I hope you love it, let us know when you have tried it
anyone got it to work with a wahoo elemnt in the training mode (via ant+)? control of power doesn't seem to work for me in this setting, the power only drops and gets a small push every couple seconds but is never adjusted to the target power. Works fine via bt in Zwift though.
Looks good. Higher gradient would be useful but I can find them around where I live. I have an old Cannondale System6 from 2007 that could work well with it. Rather than staying on a trainer, I currently use an old £350 Reebok. Set for 99 minutes, I do a heart attack recovery routine for warm up, then 15 minutes on the trainer, a set of kettles, pressups, skipping, or standing on one foot, 15 minutes more on trainer, carry on till run of trainer time for a 3-hour workout. That works nicely, burns plenty of calories, varies intense and level efforts, lets me work with music, and I monitor my heart with a Polar HR10 chest strap. For real riding circuits, I have a few miles long circuit up, over, and round Shooters Hill and Oxleas Wood. Age 68, I'm losing my confidence on longer rides further from home due to so many huge SUVs and pickup trucks filling up the lanes
Thank you for sharing. Turbo trainers are definitely great for avoiding SUV’s Zwift can help keep you fit and engaged over the winter, sounds like you have it covered though 💪🏻
Van Rysel brand is really gooing somewhere....I wear my Van Rysel gear every time when i go for our weekly bike ride...The others look down on me for that but one day it will dominate if you look to Price/Quality
Totally agree! I do the same most of the time. All I need now is a bike 😂, the Giant Propel is still my steed at the moment though and RC520 for commuting and winter.
Crazy to get a review this early !
How is the road feel comparing it to other trainers that you tryed ? Heard that biger flywheel better road feel ?
Thanks! If only that could happen all the time 😂The road feel is on par with the Kickr Core and feels really smooth. You are correct, the heavy flywheel gives better road feel, to a point. The D900 has a bigger flywheel than the D500. Also keep an eye out for the D100 later this year which will be the cheapest direct drive with Tacx Flow/Vortex type spec.
@@TheDecathlonMan d500 and d900 look exactly the same, have same size and weight per manual, wonder how they really can have different flywheel weight
According to the handbooks, the D900 is 1kg heavier than the D500 and is out now.
Hello, I bought the D500 in March, I use it with Zwift, and the truth is that I am very happy with its behavior, only one important drawback, in mine the calibration of the potentiometer is wrong.
Average mark in 1 hour tests about 25/30 wts less, verified with dual recording Sram Quard Dzero (I have 2 bikes with these dzero potentiometers and sram force axes).
I did the spindown that they send several times in the onelap app and it continues to score badly....it's a lot of difference... and to do races in zwift it eliminates you.....
Did you do a power test on yours?
I did indeed, the experience I have had with different trainers is they are all different with regards to accuracy. The Kickr tended to read higher, the Van Rysel reads lower but actually sits around the same lower reading of wattage as the Neo. The Van Rysel trainer works on an algorithm and will not be as accurate as your Quarq, if it is accuracy for racing you want then maybe use your PM as the power source and the trainer as controllable? Also even though 30w is huge, remember drivetrain losses can account for at least 10w of that.
The new intro is terrifying 😂
I hope not too terrifying? Reminded me of ‘The Invisible Man’ Queen😂🫣
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@@TheDecathlonMan I think it is terrific
Thanks, you can come again 😂
Hi mate, I've got an unrelated question. Do you think it would be possible to order the Road b8ke NCR CF, with 105 groupset instead of the Tiagra, as advertised?
Unfortunately this is not an option to order at the mo, never say never. The only option currently is to find the groupset you want, then ask for it to be fitted in store. This would increase the cost though.
@The Decathlon Man That's a shame. I think bespoke builds would be a great service and something Decathlon should consider. You should submit the idea.
Already did 2 years ago 😂
Hello, thank you for your video, they are really rare on this home trainer! I'm really struggling to decide between this HT and Zwift's.
One thing that bothers me with the Van Rysel's HT is the use of Onelap fit. I can't find much information about that, is it necessary to have this app to calibrate the HT ? How much does the subscription costs after the free trial ?
Hi CYPPS, thanks for the questions and for watching! The Onelap fit app is made by Magene, as is the trainer. Much like other trainers, you do need to use the app to calibrate it, just to keep it as accurate as possible. A lot of users don’t bother though. As far as I am aware, Van Rysel used the Onelap platform as it is easier to adapt for their own needs, bikes, jerseys and banners etc. Onelap fit app is free but Subscription to Onelap the cycling app is £4.99 a month, but Zwift is more stable. The Zwift HUB is extremely competitive.
@@TheDecathlonMan thank you for you quick answer 😊 I was suprised that Decathlon would force a subscription to another platform for the calibration, but as I understand it, it is two separate apps, and the one for the calibration is free. I'll take time to decide between the two, it's not an easy decision knowing how close the specs are! You definitly help with your video and your answers though, kuddos for your work!
Nothing is ever easy when it comes to apps and trainers, except for Zwift, they are making it easier to use, but then you pay more for that. Always here if needed, thanks for the feedback, it is appreciated 😊
I also have a kickr. Do you have experience with rocker plates, too? Do you think they are worth it?
Rocker plates can help some riders as riding on a turbo does not give a true to outside riding experience, the tacx neo has built in flex/give and the kickr can have rocker feet attached. I don’t ride with a rocker plate but have my mat on thick pile carpet which gives just enough. Just my opinion, I don’t think they are worth it.
hi, great video. I heard something about the cube attain. I ride a Cube attain slx 2023, is it compatible with this bike?
Thanks, it is unlikely your bike will fit, the brake caliper would touch the plastic casing. Modifications will be made to the next iteration, I will aim to update the description if anything changes.
hello can i connect my powertap pedals to the home trainer to change the powermeter source *
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You can do this in the app you are using, for Zwift , select the trainer as controllable but the power source as the powertap. Last time I checked, they have to be linked via the zwift companion app. If you mean like Elite trainers PML then not.
Hello,
is it compatible with Decathlon entry level road bikes, specifically Triban rc500 ?
Thanks
Hi Nabil, it is indeed, it comes with all the spacers to fit most bikes. 135mm dropouts with quick release is used on the RC500 and I primarily use my RC520 as my turbo bike.
Interesting review thanks ! I was interested but I saw the Zwift HUB is only 50€ more for better specs (%climb and power) is it worth it ?
The Zwift HUB is really competitive, if you have pets or small children, our flywheel is fully enclosed vs the HUB. The Van Rysel is more accurate if that is important to you. I may have mentioned too many times that the Van Rysel is ‘rock solid’ especially with my puny max sprint 😂
Never experienced any power drift while testing, it does feel like riding an Elite Zumo or Tacx Flux rather than the Wahoo Kickr.
@@xGshikamaru thanks your feedback.
Unfortunately D500 limit is 12%, on my usual trainings IRL I’m going higher than that. So I was a bit concerned about this. But I don’t think I’ll be limited by the maximum power tbh.
So I’m waiting now for the D900 (it is not coming) so maybe an officially refurbished Wahoo Kickr for 500 bucks
They are dragging their heels a bit with the D900, they put them both up on the website and now they are all out of stock. The Kickr is a great trainer too, although I had 4 of them. Now have a Neo2T.
@@TheDecathlonMan I just got a D900 ahah finally, can’t wait to try it. Only one in stock in France since 2 weeks…
Hello😊
Is it possible to connect the D500 to a powermeter in such a way that the D500 uses the data from the powermeter instead of it's own power data?
I know that for example the trainers from Elite have this option, Elite calls it "powermeter link".
Does the D500 have something similar?
Thx in advance!😊
As far as I am aware this is an Elite only feature for their trainers that do not have a power meter such as the Zumo. Depending on the app you use, you can choose to use a power meter reading rather than the trainer anyway, a prime example is Zwift.
@@TheDecathlonMan Thank you very much for the fast answer! According to the german Elite website, the Suito and Suito-T (which both do have their own powermeters) have powermeter link. Didn't do any research on their more expensive models though...
I am most certainly gonna buy the D500 anyway, was just curious and it would've been the cherry on top🙂
Great channel BTW, I subscribed and I will mention you when I bought the trainer and write a review about it.
Thanks Miorlauuu, may see you on Zwift in the near future then 💪🏻 the positive feedback is much appreciated.
Why are there no other reviews of this trainer? Trying to decide between this and the Zwift Hub
That is a very good question, no idea, c’mon D500 owners, get a video out about your experiences!
@@TheDecathlonMan do you know if it auto calibrates like the Zwift hub does if you coast for 5 seconds?
The D500 calibrates with a spindown, much like the Kickr core, no auto calibration, unless they update the firmware post release.
@@TheDecathlonMan oh that's a shame. Thanks, makes my decision easier 👍
You are welcome, we always knew the HUB would be big competition. May see you on Zwift.
Hi, does everyone whether the D500 would work with a Microshift Advent X gear group? Much obliged.
You should be fine as long as the derailleur does not hit the D500 casing. You will need to fit a spacer behind the cassette when fitting usually 1.8mm.
Does it work with Rouvy? Can it be also controlled with a Garmin Edge unit?
It will work with Rouvy, it can connect to a Garmin. It has Ant + and bluetooth.
Hi, I have a Cube attain sl disc 2019, would there be any issues with it?
The plastic shell is likely to foul the brake caliper unfortunately, there should be a new version coming that will allow more bike compatibility.
HI, I just received my D500. I want to set it up with a trek domane AL 3 with thru axle. I can't find any information on the thru axle adapters (142 x12 disc brake). Do you have a guide?
We have a support page here if any good? support.decathlon.co.uk/van-rysel-d500-d900
@@TheDecathlonMan there is no info on the support page. Do I need to remove something before using the adapters? There is just a very vague picture in the manual
The picture in the manual shows the orientation the they should be depending on your axle, I can make a short video tomorrow showing the process, as far as I was aware the drive side should be screw in with a 17mm spanner, if the cassette is already fitted, this can make life difficult if the flats are not exposed enough. The non drive side should just be pushed in.
You may need to remove the cassette if the lock ring is in the way of the thru axle adaptor flats, on the drive side.
@@TheDecathlonMan rhank you for the information, a short video would be very hepfull :) I saw in the reviews on decathlon website a lot of people are struggling with rhese adapters since guido is very limited. thank you!
I have a 8 speed bike, do you think thas is compatible with this trainer?
It will take an 8 speed cassette, you will need to put a spacer behind the cassette before fitting it, as the trainer has an 11 speed freehub.
I‘m getting the D900. Did you tested this model too?
I only tested the D500, although the D900 is exactly the same externally other than graphics on the unit, internally the flywheel is heavier at 5.2kg vs 4.7kg of the D500. If the D500 is anything to go by, it will kick your butt with the 20% incline.
Can you use it without connecting to power supply?
Nope, only the Tacx Neo will allow that.
I've just read that you are using this with the RC520. I have the same bike, but I am using it with the D100 trainer.
My problem is when I am switching from the trainer back to the original rear wheel, my rear derailleur indexing is terribly off, by 1-2 gears. I'm guessing the reason is that the end cap on my rear wheel axle is ,,protruding" quite a bit, pushing the rear derailleur farther away from the cassette. But on the trainer, the end cap is not protruding that much (relative to the lockring, or the edge of the cassette), so the derailleur is closer.
Have you experienced anything similar?
Unfortunately I have yet to have access to a D100 Turbo Trainer, so I cannot say I have experienced this. Do you have the older 11 speed RC520 or the 10 speed version? If 10 speed, you will need a spacer behind the cassette. If it is 11 speed, I would check that all the sprockets are seated properly, also check the adapters are correct, the RC520 has a 135mm width between dropouts. On my old Kickr I had to adjust the cable on the rear derailleur but this was only a quarter turn. All of of this assumes the derailleur or hanger has not been bent out of line.
Unless you mean, the gear you left it in does not line up, making it difficult to put it back in the frame? In this case, it can be a good idea to shift without the wheel to where the small sprocket would be, then put the chain/upper jockey wheel onto the smallest sprocket and the wheel should drop in nicely.
I have left a comment yesterday, but I think it got deleted due to containing links :/
I have the 11 speed model. I think everything is set up correctly. On the trainer I have the original microshift 11-32 cassette, and on the rear wheel I have a new 11-32 CS-R7000 shimano 105 cassette, but I think they are identical in width, and don't need any spacers. Also I guess I couldn't even fit more spacers on the freehub body due to limited space.
I have to adjust the barrel adapter like 12 turns, and even have to readjust the limit screws. I'm thinking I must be doing something wrong, but the weird thing is, after adjusting, it works fine. I'm just having a larger gap between my cassette lockring and the edge of my dropout, like the width of a chain. This is due to my end cap on my rear wheel hub being a bit too long / protruding a bit more than what I would think is normal?
It is strange that my axle/hub end caps (lockrings?) are not like the ones on the newer triban 520 wheel. I can't send you links here, but if you go to the hungarian decathlon site, and search for '8567472', you will see what I mean.
So on the drive side of my wheel, the end cap is longer / protruding more than the end cap on my trainer (by ~3mms), and that is causing this misalignment. I just don't understand why I'm having these weird, seemingly uncommon caps, and why they are protruding this much / why I can't thread them in more.
Also I don't know why the end caps have slots for a cone wrench, when even tightening them finger tight makes my wheel spin hard-ish (so I have to reverse them up just a little bit). Which is strange, because if they are not fully tightened, I guess they let some dust and dirt in.
I took the wheel to my local decathlon workshop, and they also told me that it's a bit strange that you can't tighten the end caps all the way with your fingers, but they don't know what's the problem, or if there is a problem at all.
I was just curious if you have ever heard any complaints about this type of end caps, or anything related to this, but this turned out rather long, I'm sorry :D
ok, yes the 2 cassettes are pretty much the same, you will not need a spacer as it is 11 speed. You should not need to adjust it as much as you are for it to work, and the adaptors on the trainer are the correct way round? I think to help you the most we need to 'see' the issue, can you contact us on email? We can then take a look, if you can send a few pics of the bike on the trainer and the adaptors you are using? www.decathlon.co.uk/help/app/ask
email sent. thanks a lot!
Hello! Is there any chance to installed my 12s 105 cassette on this free hub turbo trainer? Thanks in advance, cheers!
Yep, will take 12spd road.
My cube C:62 doesn’t fit. Can the machine be at angel… 45 degree angle?
It fits if I tilt it forward at around 25 degrees.
Sorry to hear that, I know the Cube 'Attain' does not fit but was not aware the C:62 is also not compatible. It should not be at a 45 degree angle, as far as I am aware only the Wahoo Kickr will allow that sort of movement for use with the Kickr climb.
In this case I would not use it and return it for a refund, I would not risk it causing damage to either your bike or the trainer.
Hello, I dont understand why it doesnt fit, I have a C:62 and I want to buy this home trainer. Can you explain ? Thx a lot
Do you know about the D100 release date?
Should be October time, ready for the winter
anyone knows if this one is compatible with Rouvy ?
Yes, it will work with the Rouvy app
Hi guys! Any experience with the small brother D100?
I would love to say yes, but no from me. Anyone else used a D100? Only just became available I think?
@TheDecathlonMan for who do you recommand the D100? I am totally new in the virtual riding field, but I would be great to use as a training tool. On the road I don't have a power meter either so I think it might be helpful to measesure my ftp and such a things. I would rather train with it than do group rides. Thanks for your answer.
I think it will be a good choice for most people. it is closest to the Tacx Flow/Vortex in terms of performance but should be quieter as it is direct drive and more accurate, it does not have a cadence sensor if that will bother you? The main thing is you will not be bored if you use Zwift with it. If you want to improve outside riding this will do that. If you want more accurate numbers then it may be better to look at a mid range direct drive trainer.
@@TheDecathlonMan thanks for your answer. I do have a cadence sensor so i guess i can pair with it and in that case it's a complete training tool for me
Yes, if you have a cadence sensor already, you can pair that to any app you use and you will be set.
does the ERG mode work on this trainer?
Yup, just use the setting in the app you are using, in Zwift this is automatically switched on for workouts unless you turn it off using the check box.
Wahoo
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Do we know when it will be available to purchase?
Already been released and sold out, unknown restock date at the moment unfortunately 😢
The D900, the bigger brother, has now been released too
Any approximation? if it is going to take more or less one month or 1year? Thanks for the review
Earliest is April for the restock of the D500 and September for the D900, thanks for watching.
How to calibrate the trainer using app?
Just like the D100 here, How to spin down/calibrate Van Rysel D100 Turbo Trainer
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Can u use it without Zwift ?
You don’t need zwift but it is great, it will need to be connected to another app/computer though. Onelapfit and onelap are popular apps too. Mywhoosh is currently free to use. See here for more info support.decathlon.co.uk/van-rysel-d500-d900
@@TheDecathlonMan thanks !
FEC? zwift etc?
So currently it does not have FEC out of the box, there will be a firmware update soon that will add this though, it is already fully compatible with Zwift.
@@TheDecathlonMan onelapfit isnt that the magene virtual training software ?Is the trainer a magene unit?
Yes, as mentioned in the video, the trainer is made to Van Rysel spec by Magene who also own Onelap and the utility app.
Non folding legs is a bummer. Especially aimed at the cheaper end. Probably also those people with less space...
Yup, never know, they could sell that as an add on in the future 🤞