UPDATE: If you lift the RGB pins during install, you'll need to replace the pullup resistors: www.retrorgb.com/fix-for-all-rgb-bypassed-sega-genesis.html
Wow, that audio is like night and day! It's the purest a lot of us have ever heard that bangin' Sonic 3 soundtrack! Really cool project, Bob. I want one!
If it's VA1, you can mod that sucker and it will then be functionally identical to the first two models. It will then also be compatible with the Terraonion megaSD cartridge, which plays regular SegaCD images. The only thing it won't play is SegaCD 32X, as it's missing the expansion port. RetroRGB has pictures on how to tell whether a Genesis 3 is VA1 or VA2. After the triple bypass, it will have at least the same audio and better video capability than the best model 1 version.
@@cbk12 Officially you need to disconnect the Sega CD to play them from the cartridge, which you can’t do with a CDX, but I recall it was working anyway for someone (Krikzz?).
I'm such a purist. Hearing them side-by-side makes me like the original audio. That grungy sound with the occasional clipping is more...Genesis-y to me.
@@AlexvrbX Yep, and the VA7 model 1s sound just as bad as the VA0/1/1.8 model 2s. It's just not as cut and dry with the Mega Drive/ Genesis, but now the 3BP can even the playing field.
For anyone on the fence about this, I got a triple bypass installed last December and the differences were INSTANTLY recognizable. Absolutely worth the money.
I really would like a more "easy route" to all this. I made the RGB mod on my N64 but when I look at this TBP for Genesis I always think it's a mess of cables and other parts. And of course, there is the availability problem in my country, Brazil, always a thing to worry.
I'm okay with the wiring schemes, but hell ... soldering leads directly to lifted QFP pins is a recipe for desaster. I don't mind doing so myself, but I can see a bunch of ruined consoles due to that aspect.
You can literally build it and provide it to other Brazilians yourself! That’s the beauty of open source. Components are widely available even during the industry-wide parts shortage. Another benefit of being open-source is that you can adapt it to a more “easy route” if you want which probably means making versions tailored to specific console revisions. One example: A change that made bottom installs easier on the Model 2/3 made the board hit the DIN on the Model 1 when replacing the RF modulator, which is one of the things that can be fixed. Japanese consoles have no RF modulator to replace anyway so you could interface with the original DIN and pipe stereo to the headphone jack. The 3BP also needs 5.6k pull up resistors for lifted pin installs which is probably coming to the universal design. If you’d rather use the pull-ups on the board and leave the pins down you could design it for that.
I could hear a difference on my cell phone. This is a great upgrade option for those that want to do it. If i want a clean video and digital sound signals on an HDTV I play Genesis games with the Mega Sg.
I've been reading about this on your site, and am thankful the installation is easier on non-Gen 1s. Maybe when lockdown is over I'll find a space to work on my consoles with this.
9:41 do you know which revision has the poor audio on the model 1? Curious to see if mine is affected. The faulty board I had was VA2 but the one I have currently is VA6.
@@RetroRGB Awesome, thank you! Appreciate the quick response! As a little side note, I have seen some terrible jail bars on some models of the Genesis, but the VA6 that I have the jailbails are barely, barely visible. I'll get a confirmation of the board revision if that helps.
@@noobguy57 If you need to tell which Genesis/MD model 1 has a VA7, look a the back port area. If they're aligned to the right, you're good; if the ports are centered (and you don't see a serial port), you've got a VA7.
you can hear the low tone hiss in the Original, if I get back into collecting Classic Consols I will Look at getting me a 3BP for sure thank you for showing the internet with this, I also remember the old days where you could overclock a Gen 1 to get more Frames in Sonic and Streets of Rage etc as well as Streetfighter 2 etc I miss the old days of Consol hacking..
There was only one system that I could think of that wasn't either thought of or simply wasn't covered in this segment. The CDX, portable Genesis/CD w/CD player capability. Not many people remember it.
Great informative video as always Bob! I found out about the Triple Bypass from your website some time back. Since then i have tried it (and Voultars RGB) on multiple MKI and MKII PAL consoles. As you can imagine i got different results each time both in audio and visual. My main objective was getting rid of the jailbars. With many hours of tinkering I found on the MKI VA4 i ended up just lifting the sub carrier and using Firebrandx's audio mod got the best results (on that specific board) I prefer the colour output of the CXA. MKII I used the triple bypass on two versions one UK-PAL and one ASIAN-PAL. The jailbars was 99% gone on the ASIAN model but around 80% gone on the PAL model. Now here's whats more interesting, putting them through an OSSC jailbars are a lot more noticeable but through a Framemiester you can barely notice them on any model once the mods are installed or even the stock CXA. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect Sega Genesis/Mega Drive board that has the least noise even after trying it on more than 6 different boards. I'm trying to get hold of a Brazilian MKIII and a X'Eye to see how those results turn out :)
I know this is wildly off topic from the video, but you’re looking great! Most of us in quarantine are gaining weight rather than losing it, so keep up the good work. :)
exact model of SEGA Mega Drive I saw at a car boot sale about a year ago in my hometown it had that exact same port on the back of it I always wondered what it was for I wish I got hold of it before some else did
Great video. FWIW I'm no audiophile (I hate people being pedantic about nothing) but I certainly noticed issues with my MD2's audio. After installing a Mega Amp 2.0 (which I think is the same as the audio part of the 3BP you're talking about?) everything's cleared up significantly. Personal opinion but on this note, I think the MD2 is under-rated as I get stereo from the original din and no jailbars. I also like the style of the MD2 as I had one as a kid. Thought I'd mention this as everybody on forums told me to do the 3BP (most don't seem to appreciate what the Mega Amp 2.0 is or why I wouldn't want to use the full 3BP in an MD2). I'm glad that I was able to get away with the simpler, single mod as each bit of fiddling/soldering comes with a level of risk.
I'm guessing it's because the Mega Amp doesn't really fit in with MDFourier, and isn't as close to original Model 1 MD sound as possible. The 3BP uses a slightly different circuit, which takes MDFourier analysis into account. I'm also the kind of guy who'd rather just bypass the audio on the MD2's as well, as I don't want to lose composite video and the model 2's RGB is already pretty good.
I have a Model 2 and a Hi-Def Graphics Model 1. Switching between the two, my Model 2 has substantially worse audio quality. A good track to test this on is the Stage 1 bar music in Streets of Rage 2. On the Model 2 it sounds terrible, and switching over to the Model 1 the difference is immediately noticeable. I'm probably going to get a triple bypass done for my Model 2 as it's the one I grew up with (never knew the Model 1 existed until later in my life), plus the Sega CD I have is the Model 2 version. Thanks for the great video!
The only downside with my mega drive II is that I got one instance of slowdown playing sonic 2 on co-op with a buddy.... is that like supposed to happen? I don't remember that from back in the day on my og mega drive 1 ( which I no longer have)
I like how Bob says in his comparisons that it is "one of the worst" motherboard revisions. Oh god, I wish my audio sounded that good for original audio on the first two Model 2's that I bought on ebay. The audio was so bad for me that my ears felt like they were going to bleed. This comparison at least sounds bearable on the original. I wonder if the 3BP will work on my horror Model 2.
Bob, is there going to be a Triple Bypass installation video or more detailed website instructions for either a common model 2 Genesis with lousy sound or a model 3 VA1? Right now I just see pictures on your website, and I know there are some pins that require lifting and/or traces that need cutting. If you are going to do it, I'll buy and donate a triple bypass chip if that helps. Personally, I'm going to find a Genesis 3 VA1 on Ebay and try this myself.
Hi Bob! You are the only guy I trust 100% on Bypass information so I can change my Mega Drive. I would like to know, honestly, what is the best bypass card for RGB on Mega Drive, model 1? Warm regards from Brazil!
3:30 - Where can we find the wire routing that Jose Cruz validated? I don't see the validated wire routes on the Github or the 3BP page on RetroRGB. Thanks!
6:17 - What is up with the black and red wire in the top right of the board? I've seen several mods where those were in place, but no mod actually explaining *why* they are there in the first place.
@@RetroRGB 😮No way! I have a Model 2 VA3 console with a bare solid wire (like a resistor leg) instead if wire and thought for sure it was some poorly done mod since it's lying flat on top of several VIAs. I think I'll swap that out for some insulated wire, lol.
RetroRGB no I’m talking about the red insulation not connecting anything sitting below that cap. You can see it in all the shots of that chip. And you have so much copper stripped and only the tip soldered. On that kind of job I like soldering up the leg from the board, especially when there’s something like that cap you were trying to avoid, rather than having a long piece of bare copper floating above another component.
Is the "adding SMD capacitors in a few places on the motherboard" actually documented anywhere? I've only seen people talking about putting a couple near the VDP.
Yes and I never get tired of hearing it...thank you! I bought it beat up on eBay and rebuilt the whole thing: Hand wown pickups, grinding the frets, etc. It's been the best guitar I've ever owned.
Triple bypass is such an amazing name. Not only does it sound like a marketing ploy Sega would've used in the 90's, but it's very indicative of what Sega was trying to do to keep the console alive. I mean Avgn puts it best. The genesis with all of its machines hooked up to it looks like it's on life support
Has to be the very first model though, they are hard to find. Not just the early model number - there’s a small initial run with the first box design, but they are findable in Japan.
RetroRGB that’s surprising to hear, I’ve had three and they were all perfect. Not even the bypass needed. Perfect sound, perfect RGB. Others have reported the same, but I trust your findings. It has to be the very first iteration.
Hey great video as alwaysl Let me make a question. What do you think about the audio quality of the Genesis core in Mister Fpga? Wich filter do you suggest to use on it? Im using the no filter option and the sound is pretty clean.
Genesis audio on MiSTer is AWESOME; The team uses MDFourier to make sure it's accurate. Filtered vs unfiltered totally depends on your speakers and your ears...there's no right or wrong answer, it's whatever you like best :)
I grabbed a 3BP chip and now I’m having trouble locating actual installation instructions for a Model 1. I can start on with the mini DIN and board install, but this video and the post on RetroRGB all are general info, which isn’t quite enough for the resistor additions and wiring. Any suggestions on where to get instructions?
What about a 3BP equivalent for the 32X video encoder? Btw, I here that there's a relatively simple 32X mod to restore Virtua Racing support. And it's also possible to double the VRAM on the Model 1 and Model 2 Genesis / Mega Drive consoles, though this won't really do anything useful unless you also find a way to permanently hack the VDP registers to interleave between both chips and speed up VRAM writing. Yes, you can actually do that.
Couldn’t get VA2 sega cd audio to work. Tried using 3 different sets of jumper wire but nothing still. Just cd audio not triple bypass. Not sure why because he solder points are good.
UPDATE: If you lift the RGB pins during install, you'll need to replace the pullup resistors: www.retrorgb.com/fix-for-all-rgb-bypassed-sega-genesis.html
Bob, thanks for being the ultimate source for all things retrogaming. You have no idea how much I value your input and effort.
Thanks so much for the kind words!
@@RetroRGB Many of us feel the same way I'm sure! Keep on keeping on!
I second this, Bob is the greatest source for getting informed on the widest range of topics, with the most in depth information available!
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Wow, that audio is like night and day! It's the purest a lot of us have ever heard that bangin' Sonic 3 soundtrack! Really cool project, Bob. I want one!
I picked up a Genesis 3 cheap from toys r us back in the day. Just keep it to complete the set. Had no idea anybody cared enough to make mods for it.
If it's VA1, you can mod that sucker and it will then be functionally identical to the first two models. It will then also be compatible with the Terraonion megaSD cartridge, which plays regular SegaCD images. The only thing it won't play is SegaCD 32X, as it's missing the expansion port. RetroRGB has pictures on how to tell whether a Genesis 3 is VA1 or VA2. After the triple bypass, it will have at least the same audio and better video capability than the best model 1 version.
@@bruceg22000 so im curious then. Would the cdx play the 32x/cd games combo? From a flash cart?
@@cbk12 Officially you need to disconnect the Sega CD to play them from the cartridge, which you can’t do with a CDX, but I recall it was working anyway for someone (Krikzz?).
@@emmettturner9452 good to know thank you 😊
Thanks for the video, Bob. I'm constantly blown away by the amazing stuff that this community produces.
Amazing video as always. Lots of awesome love for the Genesis now a days.
Yes finally indeed!
First mod I ever installed! Brought new life to my model 2. Love that you're doing this since RETRORGB is why I installed in the first place.
Thank you!
I could hear the difference even on my cell phone
Same.
yes
Especially Knuckles' theme!
Bluestreak94 Plays Something Random yeah... Knuckles’ theme sounded like a broken paper shredder on that stock Genesis.
Same
triple bypass kept my dad alive
did you notice a difference in audio/video quality
I can confirm hearing the difference in the quality. Awesome work! *subscribed*
I have this mod installed on 2 of my systems and is well worth the time & money. One of the best mega drive mods out there IMO
Coolest thing I've seen this week, by far. Macho Nacho's latest video sent me here. Subscribed
On the Genesis 2, I can obviously tell the difference. The 3BP sounds cleaner than the original audio output.
Not all Genesis Model 2's are bad, and and not all Genesis 1's are good. I've got a VA4 Model 2 and the audio and video are pretty damn good already.
I'm such a purist. Hearing them side-by-side makes me like the original audio. That grungy sound with the occasional clipping is more...Genesis-y to me.
@@AlexvrbX Yep, and the VA7 model 1s sound just as bad as the VA0/1/1.8 model 2s. It's just not as cut and dry with the Mega Drive/ Genesis, but now the 3BP can even the playing field.
Tech in Brazil is really waaaaay behind - 4 years later I finally managed to put my hands on one of these, now is time to install it ♥ ty Bob
Really cool to know! It's beyond my skill/patience but I still love learning about these mods.
For anyone on the fence about this, I got a triple bypass installed last December and the differences were INSTANTLY recognizable. Absolutely worth the money.
Did you send yours in?
The ultimate sound capabilites, IMPROVED!
I really would like a more "easy route" to all this. I made the RGB mod on my N64 but when I look at this TBP for Genesis I always think it's a mess of cables and other parts. And of course, there is the availability problem in my country, Brazil, always a thing to worry.
I'm okay with the wiring schemes, but hell ... soldering leads directly to lifted QFP pins is a recipe for desaster. I don't mind doing so myself, but I can see a bunch of ruined consoles due to that aspect.
@@1337Shockwav3 many mods done like that
Yeah.. Cool as hell from an enthusiast viewpoint but essentially you are reworking the board.
@@haraldhimmel5687 ya feel the same. At that point you kinda not playing the og console kind of with bypassing. Its enough to bypass the audio.
You can literally build it and provide it to other Brazilians yourself! That’s the beauty of open source.
Components are widely available even during the industry-wide parts shortage.
Another benefit of being open-source is that you can adapt it to a more “easy route” if you want which probably means making versions tailored to specific console revisions.
One example:
A change that made bottom installs easier on the Model 2/3 made the board hit the DIN on the Model 1 when replacing the RF modulator, which is one of the things that can be fixed. Japanese consoles have no RF modulator to replace anyway so you could interface with the original DIN and pipe stereo to the headphone jack.
The 3BP also needs 5.6k pull up resistors for lifted pin installs which is probably coming to the universal design. If you’d rather use the pull-ups on the board and leave the pins down you could design it for that.
I've actually been using your site lately because I've been looking at buying an old genesis and this video comes up! It's a sign haha
Keep the MDG alive, super awesome work.
I could hear a difference on my cell phone. This is a great upgrade option for those that want to do it. If i want a clean video and digital sound signals on an HDTV I play Genesis games with the Mega Sg.
Great video. I've been wondering what this project was and this explanation was really interesting.
Excellent narration.... Pleasant to listen to.. Unlike some other vids...
7:23 You can really hear the difference with the Hi Hats! Sounds delicious.
Holy hell, the bypass even fixes the EQ! Amazing
I've been reading about this on your site, and am thankful the installation is easier on non-Gen 1s. Maybe when lockdown is over I'll find a space to work on my consoles with this.
9:41 do you know which revision has the poor audio on the model 1? Curious to see if mine is affected. The faulty board I had was VA2 but the one I have currently is VA6.
VA7 - The one that's basically a model 2 in a model 1 shell.
@@RetroRGB Awesome, thank you! Appreciate the quick response! As a little side note, I have seen some terrible jail bars on some models of the Genesis, but the VA6 that I have the jailbails are barely, barely visible. I'll get a confirmation of the board revision if that helps.
@@noobguy57 If you need to tell which Genesis/MD model 1 has a VA7, look a the back port area. If they're aligned to the right, you're good; if the ports are centered (and you don't see a serial port), you've got a VA7.
@@AceTrainerX3 I'll check, thanks!
it's the first time i see someone with the same model motherboard as my megadrive model 2. It's a smaller motherboard than usual.
you can hear the low tone hiss in the Original, if I get back into collecting Classic Consols I will Look at getting me a 3BP for sure thank you for showing the internet with this, I also remember the old days where you could overclock a Gen 1 to get more Frames in Sonic and Streets of Rage etc as well as Streetfighter 2 etc I miss the old days of Consol hacking..
Now I just need someone to install it for me!
8bitmods.com
@@mansen5485 I'm sure they're great but it sounds like the pigeon-holed themselves out of 16-bit console work with that name. ;)
Wow, I’d love to learn how to do that mod to my model 2. That audio is a huge improvement.
Thanks Bob, you are the best educator for retro tech, you are awesome!!!
Thank you!
Ohh man, the Pete Sampras Tennis music! That takes me back to my childhood playing with my dad and sister.
HypeBeast Bob with the info 🤯 🔥
Im ordering mine this week. Can't wait
Big ups to my man cruzlink. Hope you doing well, buddy! I still got the Virtua Stick!
There was only one system that I could think of that wasn't either thought of or simply wasn't covered in this segment. The CDX, portable Genesis/CD w/CD player capability. Not many people remember it.
The custom CDX board is not done yet. So there isn't much point in talking about.
This really made me want to get a Genesis 3.
Yeah, if you only knew someone that could just send you one? Maybe fat guy? Likes beer?
...nah
@@RetroRGB lol. I have 2 Genesis laying around as it is. But I appreciate it.
5:55 I tried to wipe that hair off my screen. 😂
Hahahaha...sorry!
Love the Rust In Peace V in the back🤘
Thank you!
Never was big on Genesis (didn't grow up with it) but projects like these make the proposition of getting one much more enticing.
I was today years old when I found out there was a genesis 3
there is a 4 and 5 too.
@@thetechoasis2179 No, There’s only the original, Model 2, and the model 3
The Genesis 3 was made with Sega and majesco in 1998
Loving this man's rust in piece v in the back ground
Thanks! I fully customized that one :)
Great video! Have one done each on CDX, Gen 1 and 2, highly recommended
Great informative video as always Bob! I found out about the Triple Bypass from your website some time back. Since then i have tried it (and Voultars RGB) on multiple MKI and MKII PAL consoles. As you can imagine i got different results each time both in audio and visual. My main objective was getting rid of the jailbars. With many hours of tinkering I found on the MKI VA4 i ended up just lifting the sub carrier and using Firebrandx's audio mod got the best results (on that specific board) I prefer the colour output of the CXA. MKII I used the triple bypass on two versions one UK-PAL and one ASIAN-PAL. The jailbars was 99% gone on the ASIAN model but around 80% gone on the PAL model. Now here's whats more interesting, putting them through an OSSC jailbars are a lot more noticeable but through a Framemiester you can barely notice them on any model once the mods are installed or even the stock CXA. I'm still on the hunt for the perfect Sega Genesis/Mega Drive board that has the least noise even after trying it on more than 6 different boards. I'm trying to get hold of a Brazilian MKIII and a X'Eye to see how those results turn out :)
I know this is wildly off topic from the video, but you’re looking great! Most of us in quarantine are gaining weight rather than losing it, so keep up the good work. :)
Thank you!
Like this product. Hope you're well and safe.
Awesome. I'd be curious to see Mega SG vs 3BP'd audio that would be interesting.
This.
HARD SAME
Awesome video 👍🏻love the Samus poster
Thank you!
RetroRGB it was your video that got me on the hunt for the RAD 2x cable for my SNES but trying to source one is a nightmare
Pretty sweet! Great vid!
exact model of SEGA Mega Drive I saw at a car boot sale about a year ago in my hometown it had that exact same port on the back of it I always wondered what it was for I wish I got hold of it before some else did
Now just need to find a local mod shop because there's no way I could pull off something like that on my own...
Great video. FWIW I'm no audiophile (I hate people being pedantic about nothing) but I certainly noticed issues with my MD2's audio.
After installing a Mega Amp 2.0 (which I think is the same as the audio part of the 3BP you're talking about?) everything's cleared up significantly.
Personal opinion but on this note, I think the MD2 is under-rated as I get stereo from the original din and no jailbars. I also like the style of the MD2 as I had one as a kid. Thought I'd mention this as everybody on forums told me to do the 3BP (most don't seem to appreciate what the Mega Amp 2.0 is or why I wouldn't want to use the full 3BP in an MD2). I'm glad that I was able to get away with the simpler, single mod as each bit of fiddling/soldering comes with a level of risk.
I'm guessing it's because the Mega Amp doesn't really fit in with MDFourier, and isn't as close to original Model 1 MD sound as possible. The 3BP uses a slightly different circuit, which takes MDFourier analysis into account. I'm also the kind of guy who'd rather just bypass the audio on the MD2's as well, as I don't want to lose composite video and the model 2's RGB is already pretty good.
no spec of dust on that model 1. amazing.
Finally a TH-camr fully cleans their tech before filming!
I have a Model 2 and a Hi-Def Graphics Model 1. Switching between the two, my Model 2 has substantially worse audio quality. A good track to test this on is the Stage 1 bar music in Streets of Rage 2. On the Model 2 it sounds terrible, and switching over to the Model 1 the difference is immediately noticeable.
I'm probably going to get a triple bypass done for my Model 2 as it's the one I grew up with (never knew the Model 1 existed until later in my life), plus the Sega CD I have is the Model 2 version. Thanks for the great video!
What a great video! Thank you very much Bob!
Wait, so the model 2 isn't supposed to sound like that?
The only downside with my mega drive II is that I got one instance of slowdown playing sonic 2 on co-op with a buddy.... is that like supposed to happen? I don't remember that from back in the day on my og mega drive 1 ( which I no longer have)
i can notice way more than 1% audio difference on my 8" bx8's
I've always wanted a Xeye. If only for the fact that the cd is married to the main unit. I think it still looks slick today.
I like how Bob says in his comparisons that it is "one of the worst" motherboard revisions. Oh god, I wish my audio sounded that good for original audio on the first two Model 2's that I bought on ebay. The audio was so bad for me that my ears felt like they were going to bleed. This comparison at least sounds bearable on the original. I wonder if the 3BP will work on my horror Model 2.
I slapped a like on this video faster than Bob can reach his bottle of Jack Daniels. Pretty incredible, I know.
Great video. I LOVE your Metroid poster! Where did you get it?
Thanks! I got it on eBay in 2015 (ish). It's a reproduction of an original. You should be able to find one on eBay or Etsy.
I want one of those broadcast monitors, they look very clean. I love my crt, but I would love it even more if it was clearer!
Bob, is there going to be a Triple Bypass installation video or more detailed website instructions for either a common model 2 Genesis with lousy sound or a model 3 VA1? Right now I just see pictures on your website, and I know there are some pins that require lifting and/or traces that need cutting. If you are going to do it, I'll buy and donate a triple bypass chip if that helps. Personally, I'm going to find a Genesis 3 VA1 on Ebay and try this myself.
All the documentation will be released with the wiki...which really is coming. Everything going on really slowed that down though :(
I think I'm going to get this installed in my model 2 at some point
Hi Bob!
You are the only guy I trust 100% on Bypass information so I can change my Mega Drive.
I would like to know, honestly, what is the best bypass card for RGB on Mega Drive, model 1?
Warm regards from Brazil!
You are awesome. Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks very much!
my megadrive 2 with the ccam mod has buzzy audio, but i think it is related to the powersupply that had 0.5 volt more than it should.
I see that Rust in Peace Dean! Very cool!
Thank you! I did a bunch of mods to it and it's now one of the best guitars I've ever played.
What does the Kanji on the shirt mean?
Watching on a tablet without headphones and the audio comparison is easily noticeable. One doesn’t sound like a distorted mess.
3:30 - Where can we find the wire routing that Jose Cruz validated? I don't see the validated wire routes on the Github or the 3BP page on RetroRGB. Thanks!
I could tell the difference listening from my iPhone. How’s the audio on a Nomad compared to these??
The Nomad's still noisy after the 3BP, but definitely better than stock.
You can check out the nomad triple bypass audio comparisons for reference.
where can i find that case for the MiSTer? thats sharp looking.
misteraddons.com - The site is down for a few days while it's being upgraded, but will be back soon.
Thanks a ton :)
What about the sega cdx?????
Absolutely requires a custom unit that I have been working on.
@@MobiusStripTech nice cant wait to see it :)
6:17 - What is up with the black and red wire in the top right of the board? I've seen several mods where those were in place, but no mod actually explaining *why* they are there in the first place.
Believe it or not, that was a factory mod. The model 1 Genesis consoles have a TON of them, as do 32x's. It's kinda funny to see.
@@RetroRGB 😮No way! I have a Model 2 VA3 console with a bare solid wire (like a resistor leg) instead if wire and thought for sure it was some poorly done mod since it's lying flat on top of several VIAs. I think I'll swap that out for some insulated wire, lol.
How does this compare to an X'Eye outputs?
2:30 dear lord that solder job
I think I just heard Voultar hitting the floor.
If you think that's a bad soldering job, you have no clue what you're doing. Do you even understand what's going on there?
RetroRGB at least clean up the scrap insulation off the board
Are you talking about the capacitor that's soldered on the motherboard to filter the signal? I show it again later in the video.
RetroRGB no I’m talking about the red insulation not connecting anything sitting below that cap. You can see it in all the shots of that chip. And you have so much copper stripped and only the tip soldered. On that kind of job I like soldering up the leg from the board, especially when there’s something like that cap you were trying to avoid, rather than having a long piece of bare copper floating above another component.
Cool I already use the HD Retrovision wire on a high quality CRT and PVM so I'm thinking of picking this up
But what about the Nomad? I spoke too soon.
Is the "adding SMD capacitors in a few places on the motherboard" actually documented anywhere? I've only seen people talking about putting a couple near the VDP.
No, that'll all be some of the first things to appear on the wiki...which was delayed again because of all the craziness going on ;/
@@RetroRGB Cool, that's fair enough. Looking forward to it.
I have genesis ver1. After install 3bp it has larger buzzing sound. I don't know how to fix it.
Now I may be the minority, but the 3BP sounded a bit flat to me. The original had more punch. Excellent video Bob 👍
Where was that music at the very start of the video from?
It's a song I wrote a few years ago for a band I was in. Thanks for noticing!
I love the way that Sony TV looks! What model is it?
KV-13TR24
is that a Rust In Peace themed guitar i spot in the background? nice
Yup! That's my favorite guitar! Thanks!
you probably get this a lot, but that's a sick flying V Rust In Peace Guitar you got there!
Yes and I never get tired of hearing it...thank you! I bought it beat up on eBay and rebuilt the whole thing: Hand wown pickups, grinding the frets, etc. It's been the best guitar I've ever owned.
Triple bypass is such an amazing name. Not only does it sound like a marketing ploy Sega would've used in the 90's, but it's very indicative of what Sega was trying to do to keep the console alive. I mean Avgn puts it best. The genesis with all of its machines hooked up to it looks like it's on life support
The Genesis always sounded tinny and fuzzy to me. It's nostalgic.
Bob did you know the very, very first JP MD has perfect video and audio out of the box, no mods necessary, doesn’t even have jailbars.
Has to be the very first model though, they are hard to find. Not just the early model number - there’s a small initial run with the first box design, but they are findable in Japan.
That's definitely not true. I've personally tested a 1st run of Japanese boards and it had a world of issues.
RetroRGB that’s surprising to hear, I’ve had three and they were all perfect. Not even the bypass needed. Perfect sound, perfect RGB. Others have reported the same, but I trust your findings. It has to be the very first iteration.
RetroRGB they were all VA0? After that things get screwy, and by VA5 it’s very different.
I hear the difference but for some reason I prefer the "bad" sound, sounds a genesis to me lol
any other store that sells the current version? it seems insurrection's shipping is pretty limited, and VGP sells an older version
I could actually tell the difference in the audio on my iPhone XR. Sounds super good!
Hey great video as alwaysl Let me make a question. What do you think about the audio quality of the Genesis core in Mister Fpga? Wich filter do you suggest to use on it? Im using the no filter option and the sound is pretty clean.
Genesis audio on MiSTer is AWESOME; The team uses MDFourier to make sure it's accurate. Filtered vs unfiltered totally depends on your speakers and your ears...there's no right or wrong answer, it's whatever you like best :)
nice video
i might consider getting one and trying to mod it myself, as mega drives model 2 are dirt cheap in Europe
I grabbed a 3BP chip and now I’m having trouble locating actual installation instructions for a Model 1.
I can start on with the mini DIN and board install, but this video and the post on RetroRGB all are general info, which isn’t quite enough for the resistor additions and wiring.
Any suggestions on where to get instructions?
what box is that at 12:18?
A MiSTer: www.retrorgb.com/mister.html
What about a 3BP equivalent for the 32X video encoder?
Btw, I here that there's a relatively simple 32X mod to restore Virtua Racing support.
And it's also possible to double the VRAM on the Model 1 and Model 2 Genesis / Mega Drive consoles, though this won't really do anything useful unless you also find a way to permanently hack the VDP registers to interleave between both chips and speed up VRAM writing. Yes, you can actually do that.
Couldn’t get VA2 sega cd audio to work. Tried using 3 different sets of jumper wire but nothing still. Just cd audio not triple bypass. Not sure why because he solder points are good.